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The most popular Catholic outside the Vatican: Bishop Barron

It’s common knowledge that the most widely followed Catholic prelate in the world is Pope Francis — Bishop of Rome, Prince of the Apostles and Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church. 

But less obvious is the runner-up — Robert Barron, bishop of Winona-Rochester, online evangelist and founder of Word on Fire Ministries. Barron doesn’t hold any special position in the Catholic Church’s hierarchy. On paper, he’s the simple diocesean bishop of a midsize Minnesota diocese. But through his internet presence and public ministry, a religious revival of global proportions is underway.

The bishop has over 1 million subscribers on YouTube, 3 million followers on Facebook and close to 500,000 on Instagram. Barron has the ear of conservative intellectuals, elected officials, Hollywood entertainers and political activists shaping modern society. He has been invited to speak by executives at companies such as Google and Amazon, and maintains a dizzying schedule that takes him from Washington, D.C., to Rome to Prague to London and beyond.

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Production manager Vaughn Woodward prepares to record an episode of the Word on Fire Show at the ministry’s Rochester, Minnesota studio. (Word on Fire)

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Fox News Digital traveled to the Diocese of Winona-Rochester to follow Barron for a day in his ministry and get a glimpse behind the scenes of Catholicism’s most successful modern evangelist.

He recalled that he was still just a priest when he published his first YouTube video in 2007 — a review of the Martin Scorscese film “The Departed.” It got just over 100 views. At the time, he was ecstatic about such success.

“I thought, ‘Really? 100 people watched it? Terrific!” he told Fox News Digital.

It was from these humble beginnings that Barron’s evangelization grew, becoming one of the first Catholic voices pushing back against growing nihilism and anti-Christian rhetoric in American culture. As the demand for more meaty explorations of the faith has risen, the bishop has expanded into Bible studies, academic lectures, theological lessons and historical documentaries about saints that helped shape the Christian religion.

The bishop speaks and carries himself the same both on-camera and off. He speaks in a casual tone, but doesn’t attempt to dumb down theological language — Latin vocabulary is peppered throughout his dialogues and his mind is a near-comprehensive reference catalog for quoting Vatican II documents.

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Bishop Barron stands at the podium of his lecture set at Word on Fire Studios. Barron recorded several promos for the University of St. Thomas Houston in the studio in one take each. (Word on Fire Ministries)

Speaking on controversial moral debates — abortion, gender ideology, IVF, the death penalty — he takes the tone of a sympathetic yet stern parent. There’s not much scolding of the opposition, but even less negotiation on fundamental principles. This approachable — yet uncompromising — disposition may be the source of his ministry’s wild success.

Barron is one of numerous faith leaders sifting through the rubble left by the rise and rapid decline of a particularly anti-religious movement in the previous decades.

“I think the ‘New Atheist’ wave came and went. It left behind a lot of very unhappy and directionless people,” Barron told Fox News Digital. 

The movement he referenced was a short-lived phenomenon in the early 2000s led by the so-called “Four Horsemen” of atheism — writer Christopher Hitchens, neuroscientist Sam Harris, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins and cognitive scientist Daniel Dennett.

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More than a decade from the New Atheists’ peak in relevance, not much is left of their march against organized religion. This year, the number of religious “nones” (individuals without affiliation to an organized religion) dropped for the first time since 2016. Even individuals without formal religious affiliations more often self-describe themselves as “spiritual” or at least “agnostic” instead of outright “atheist.”

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“Bob” — the martial arts dummy used by the Word on Fire production team to frame shots — is pictured at Barron’s podium. Employees dressed the dummy in a clerical shirt and Roman collar with a pectoral cross around his neck. The glasses are necessary to ensure the lighting doesn’t create glare on Barron’s own spectacles during shoots, but producers say the rest of the costume, and the nickname, are just for fun. (Word on Fire Ministries)

Barron isn’t surprised New Atheism failed to stick.

“I think our culture, which has so emphasized the primacy of [one’s] own choice determining value, has left behind a lot of broken people,” Barron said. “And they’re looking.”

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Christianity — and the Catholic Church in particular — has seen a dramatic re-entry into the public consciousness. High-profile converts, including actors, politicians and even some former New Atheists themselves, have brought traditional, apostolic Christianity to the forefront of the culture war for the American mind.

In the face of wayward souls searching for answers, Barron describes his job simply — “proclaiming the Gospel.” It’s not an easy job.

“You have to have a lot of little medicines in the black bag,” Barron said at his Word on Fire offices in Rochester, Minnesota. “When you’re going to go deal with someone pastorally, you don’t know where they’re going to be, what their issues are, what their pathologies might be, what their hang-ups are. So you’d better have a lot of things in your bag.”

Monitors in the Word on Fire studio show producers every angle of Bishop Barron as he talks with his co-host, Dr. Matthew Petrusek. Barron recorded two episodes of the Word on Fire Show during Fox News Digital’s visit. Each was shot in just over fifteen minutes and took only one take. (Word on Fire)

He made the comment while reflecting on the recent conversion of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Somali-born American writer who became one of the loudest voices in the New Atheism movement. 

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Last year, Ali renounced her past advocacy for religious skepticism and declared herself a Christian. She is in good company. Celebrities who have recently declared a new Christian affiliation include entertainer Russell Brand, artist Kat Von D, and rapper Daddy Yankee. OnlyFans model Nala Ray now claims to be seeking salvation after abandoning her highly lucrative career in professional nudity.

High-profile converts to the Catholic Church specifically have come from a variety of cultural spheres as well — actors including Shia LaBeouf, Rob Schneider, and Dasha Nekrasova have embraced the faith in recent years. Porn star Bree Solstad renounced her adult entertainment work last month and converted after a trip to Rome and Assisi. 

In the political realm, recent public converts to the faith include Sen. JD Vance and political pundit Candace Owens. Author and culture commentator Jordan Peterson recently applauded his wife Tammy Peterson’s entry into the Catholic Church after a miraculous recovery from cancer.

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Bishop Barron speaks with Fox News Digital reporter Timothy Nerozzi in the green room of the Word on Fire studio space. (Word on Fire)

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Famous converts can be fickle and prone to disappointing believers not long after their declaration of faith. Kanye West declared himself “born again” in 2019 and has since appeared to have abandoned the faith. Britney Spears similarly expressed affiliation with the Catholic Church in 2021 before renouncing the religion just a year later.

Regardless of which public conversions endure, their increased prominence points to a larger social consciousness about Christianity.

Even the world of stand-up comedy — for decades a soapbox for militant, self-proclaimed atheists such as George Carlin and Ricky Gervais — is now flush with personalities such as Shane Gillis and Tim Dillon, self-professed “Irish-Catholics” who are far from churchgoers, but talk about seeking spirituality amid sometimes barbed jokes about their baptismal religion.

Barron baptized the son of comedian John Mulaney (who often explores his complicated relationship with religion on stage) while serving as a bishop in Los Angeles. He told Fox News Digital he finds Mulaney’s public wrestling match with Catholicism to be “very interesting to watch as a comedian” and “very funny.”

“I think what’s happening — it’s not yet baptisms, marriages, confirmations. I think it’s a broader, more elemental thing going on now, an interest — people crossing a river, people entering a door. They’re coming toward it,” Barron told Fox News Digital.

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Specific dioceses have reported entries into the Catholic Church are up by 50-70%, but Barron acknowledges that big-picture statistics on church participation “haven’t really turned around yet.” He instead sees conversions and renewed interest in Christianity as the beginning of a cultural shift that will manifest more tangible fruit down the road.

Modern Catholic converts frequently point to the Church’s distinctive attributes as a major influence on their decision to explore the faith — universal liturgy, firmly defined doctrine, institutional hierarchy and a theological tradition that can be traced back to the time of Jesus Christ. 

“The mainstream Protestant churches became so secularized. They became, in many cases, just an echo of the left-wing secular culture,” Barron said. “So they have very little to offer.”

Tom, a Catholic discerning a vocation to the priesthood, arrived unannounced to the Word on Fire offices while Fox News Digital was shadowing Bishop Barron. Tom is on a pilgrimage as he contemplates pursuing entry into the Society of Jesus, also known as the Jesuits. The Jesuits send their novices out into society with only a bus ticket and a few dollars, instructing them to seek out spiritual experiences on the road and rely on the charity of others for subsistance. Tom was in Rochester to visit the Mayo Clinic, where he recovered from a life-threatening health complication that deepened his faith. The Word on Fire staff took Tom in and gave him food and a place to rest from his travels. Barron gave the novice cash, sat with him in the office kitchen, and talked with him about the priesthood. (Word on Fire)

“[Catholicism has] hung on to a dogmatic tradition, a liturgical tradition. We take the saints seriously, we take art and liturgy seriously. And all of that, I think, does attract people intellectually,” he added.

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While a bedrock level of faith is central to all denominations of Christianity, Catholicism embraces a unique tradition of theological inquiry that encourages students to interrogate their own beliefs and seek logical answers within a Biblical and historical framework with the guidance of a millennia-old magisterium.

“The church has this very articulate moral tradition, and there’s a tendency in our country to subjectivize this business,” said Barron. “The fact that we have this rigorously thought through, objective, intellectual tradition, I think is attractive and that is one reason why people find Catholicism compelling. The idea is we keep proclaiming it in season and out, whether it’s popular or not.”

This renewed cultural cache has presented new problems for a Christian denomination that has always been a foreign-coded minority in the United States. With all eyes on the Catholic Church, the uninformed expect the institution to be dynamic and active about public politics in a way it has never been.

Whether it’s disagreements with Democrats about abortion or feuds with Republicans over the death penalty, the Catholic Church’s moral teaching is too rigid to fit snugly within either party — a departure from the left-right binary that defines American politics.

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Bishop Barron delivers a homily at St. Pius X church in Rochester. During the mass, Barron confirmed dozens of teenage students into the Catholic Church. (Word on Fire)

Barron’s popularity and well-educated perspective on the faith has led many Catholics and non-Catholics alike to look to him as a political figurehead — a proposition Barron is unwilling to entertain.

“The thing we can’t do, and we don’t do, is partisan politics,” he said. “We can’t get in the business of saying, ‘Okay, don’t vote for him, vote for this guy.’ Bishops don’t do that and priests shouldn’t do that.”

Keeping out of partisan politics is difficult for Catholic leaders when the President of the United States is a pro-choice member of the church.

President Biden has made his self-professed Catholic faith such a cornerstone of his public image that he is frequently photographed gripping rosary beads or making the Sign of the Cross. At the same time, he lobbies for policies that directly contradict the core ethical teachings of the church.

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Discontented laity and non-Catholics turn to the church hierarchy in search of catharsis — or more cynically, perhaps a chance to score political points against enemy politicians. The most hysterical culture warriors even demand Catholic prelates place censures and excommunications on elected officials as a show of force.

Bishop Barron, surrounded by fellow priests, consecrates the Eucharist for the mass. The Eucharist is the central sacrament of the Catholic faith. The church teaches that at the moment of consecration, the bread and wine become the literal body and blood of Jesus Christ as referenced in the Last Supper narrative of the Bible. This belief is referred to as the Mystery of Transubstantiation. (Word on Fire)

Political partisans have questioned why Biden and other Catholic lawmakers haven’t been excommunicated by the pope or their local bishops. Some even write to Word on Fire demanding to know why Barron himself hasn’t placed an excommunication on the president — an action he is incapable of taking and one he would not recommend regardless.

“It would be completely counterproductive, something as dramatic as that,” Barron said. 

He continued, “The bishop can and should speak, first of all, personally and privately with the guy and try to convince him that there’s a problem with this position. I think that’s a good opening move, prudentially.”

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“Now, what do you do if he stays adamant in his position? I think it’s okay then — even in a public way — to say ‘This is an inconsistent view.’ You know, excommunication is such a kind of dramatic and final approach. So I understand the pope’s reticence about that or any bishop’s reticence about that,” Barron said. “But I think [it’s good] to be publicly unambiguous about the church’s view and how this politician is out of line with it. And he shouldn’t be, as a Catholic. I have no problem with that.” 

Barron has made his frustration with Biden’s inconsistencies in Catholicism and pro-choice politics well known.

“We certainly can talk about the moral issues as they play themselves out in the political arena. I’ve done that over and over again with abortion, euthanasia, all kinds of different things,” Barron said. “I criticized Biden for being a self-professing Catholic at the same time advocating the most radical access to abortion possible and pointing out how inconsistent that is.”

Many other Catholic bishops have made similar criticisms of the president, including Cardinal Wilton Gregory of Washington and even Pope Francis himself.

“I leave it to [President Biden’s] conscience and that he speaks to his bishop, his pastor, his parish priest about that incoherence,” the pope remarked in 2022.

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Tom, the Jesuit novice pilgrim who had visited the Word on Fire offices, attended the confirmation mass being celebrated by Bishop Barron later that day. Barron offered encouragement to Tom from the pulpit and parishioners offered the pilgrim money, hot meals, and a warm bed while he stayed in Rochester. (Word on Fire)

To Barron, the insistence that the Catholic Church has a special expectation to manifest punishments against its disobedient laity is misguided: “Why haven’t Protestant leaders then excommunicated Bill Clinton? I mean, he took the same radical position.”

In a democratic nation, the onus of responsibility for religious dysfunction in politics falls to the laity, he argues.

“Cardinal [Francis] George, who I admire very much — people would come to him and ask, ‘Why aren’t you doing more about abortion and all this?’ And he would say, ‘Look, you people run the society. You elect these people,’” Barron recalled. “So, I’m here to tell you what Catholic truth is and how to live. But now off you go. You politicians and lawyers and scientists and activists — go, go, go.”

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Since the Second Vatican Council concluded in 1965, the Catholic Church has urged the laity to participate more fully in the works of the church by evangelizing in their own secular lives.

It is a key development that Barron feels has been forgotten in the decades since. The bishop is quick to complain that laity too often come to him asking for advice in fields they know far more about than him.

Bishop Barron administers the sacrament of confirmation to a teenage Catholic parishioner during the mass. Catholics believe the sacrament of Confirmation is when believers are sealed with the gift of the Holy Spirit. (Word on Fire)

“If I would bring in business leaders, entrepreneurs, investors, and get them in a room and read the gospel for the coming Sunday […] I’d say, ‘Okay, now all of you — see, judge, and act,” Barron said. “What do you see in your world? How do you judge it in light of what I’ve just told you in light of the gospel? And now, what do [you] do to Christify the world? Because I don’t know. I’m not an investor, I don’t know that world. But they do.”

With dogmatic atheism in the rearview mirror, Barron’s most pressing concern for the future is the coming generations of children who will grow up with neither religion nor rigorously considered disbelief. Instead, they’ll likely mature in a society lacking contemplation of a transcendent dimension altogether — “the first generation to lose that.”

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“If you’ve really lost a sense of God, the importance of God — of religion, of ritual — you’re going to live in this very buffered space of the secular order. And that has never been the case in human history,” the bishop said. “There’s always been the village atheist, but the overwhelming majority of people have seen their happiness as a function of a relationship to a highest good, to a transcendent good.”

But Barron insists there is plenty of hope. He believes it because he’s seen the seeds of his own efforts bud and bloom in front of his own eyes in the most unexpected ways.

“There is a kind of awakening, a kind of revival going on. And the very fact this thing that I started years ago — so tiny and so experimental and insignificant — how it would develop and grow. That’s a good sign to me of that,” Barron concluded. 

“There’s a yearning. There’s an openness to it. So I take hope in that.”

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Pounds, Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles take on the Western Illinois Leathernecks

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Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles (6-10, 1-4 OVC) at Western Illinois Leathernecks (4-12, 0-5 OVC)

Macomb, Illinois; Saturday, 4:30 p.m. EST

BOTTOM LINE: Tennessee Tech faces Western Illinois in OVC action Saturday.

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The Leathernecks have gone 3-4 at home. Western Illinois is 3-8 in games decided by 10 or more points.

The Golden Eagles have gone 1-4 against OVC opponents. Tennessee Tech has a 3-8 record against teams over .500.

Western Illinois is shooting 41.2% from the field this season, 2.7 percentage points lower than the 43.9% Tennessee Tech allows to opponents. Tennessee Tech has shot at a 45.6% clip from the field this season, 0.8 percentage points fewer than the 46.4% shooting opponents of Western Illinois have averaged.

The Leathernecks and Golden Eagles match up Saturday for the first time in OVC play this season.

TOP PERFORMERS: Lucas Lorenzen is averaging 14.9 points for the Leathernecks. Isaiah Griffin is averaging 1.3 made 3-pointers over the last 10 games.

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Mekhi Cameron is scoring 11.3 points per game with 3.9 rebounds and 1.2 assists for the Golden Eagles. Dani Pounds is averaging 10.7 points and 4.0 rebounds while shooting 49.3% over the past 10 games.

LAST 10 GAMES: Leathernecks: 3-7, averaging 67.7 points, 32.5 rebounds, 9.4 assists, 6.4 steals and 2.0 blocks per game while shooting 40.6% from the field. Their opponents have averaged 76.0 points per game.

Golden Eagles: 3-7, averaging 74.5 points, 30.5 rebounds, 13.3 assists, 7.0 steals and 2.6 blocks per game while shooting 43.8% from the field. Their opponents have averaged 83.4 points.

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The Associated Press created this story using technology provided by Data Skrive and data from Sportradar.

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Rematch history in CFP and BCS favors Oregon vs. Indiana in Peach Bowl

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The College Football Playoff national semifinal at the Peach Bowl marks a rematch of No. 1 seed Indiana’s 30-20 win against No. 5 Oregon in October, the first of several results this year that have left the Hoosiers knocking on the door of a historic and unbeaten season.

With two more wins, Indiana would become the first 16-0 national champion since Yale in 1894. But in order to make history, the Hoosiers will need to reverse some recent history.

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Since the 1996 season, there have been seven regular-season rematches in the College Football Playoff and in national championship games played under the two previous postseason formats, the Bowl Championship Series and the Bowl Alliance. Four of these pairings have occurred since the playoff expanded last season.

Surprisingly, all but one of these games have seen the loser from the regular season rebound to win the rematch. This could be a coincidence. At a minimum, though, this trend shows the difficulties in defeating an elite opponent twice in under a four-month span.

The Hoosiers look to buck that recent history. Here’s a look back at these rematches and what they might suggest about the Peach Bowl:

Ole Miss vs. Georgia, 2025

Results: Georgia 43-35, Ole Miss 39-34.

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Ole Miss led Georgia in the second half when the two met in October but coughed up a lead for its one and only loss on the year. The two SEC rivals met again in the Sugar Bowl earlier this month, with the Rebels pulling out the win on a late field goal. Unlike during the regular season, Ole Miss landed a big game from Trinidad Chambliss and did much better running the ball, indicating how teams can strategize by looking back and evaluating the previous matchup.

Ole Miss vs. Tulane, 2025

Results: Ole Miss 45-10, Ole Miss 41-10.

Here’s the one outlier. The Rebels stampeded over Tulane at home in September and then did the same in the opening round. The one difference: Lane Kiffin was the head coach for the first game and Pete Golding for the second. In this case, a significant edge in talent was the biggest factor in helping Ole Miss defy recent history.

Oklahoma vs. Alabama, 2025

Results: Oklahoma 23-21, Alabama 34-24.

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Again, an SEC rematch that reversed the regular-season result. Oklahoma’s win in November sparked its run to the playoff. That seemed to carry over to the opening round, when the Sooners stormed out to a 17-0 lead. But the Tide crawled back to tie for the biggest comeback in playoff history.

Oregon vs. Ohio State, 2024

Results: Oregon 32-31, Ohio State 41-21.

Oregon narrowly pulled out the win in Autzen Stadium and then went on to post a perfect regular season, earning the top seed in the debut of the expanded playoff. But in the Rose Bowl the Ducks ran into a buzzsaw in the Buckeyes, who stormed out to a 34-0 late in the second quarter and won going away. A year later, Oregon hopes to follow Ohio State’s blueprint and score the upset against the unbeaten Big Ten champs.

Alabama vs. Georgia, 2021

Results: Alabama 42-24, Georgia 33-18.

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The Tide knocked off then-unbeaten Georgia in the SEC championship game behind 421 yards and three touchdowns from quarterback Bryce Young. That landed Alabama in the four-team playoff as the No. 1 seed, while Georgia slotted in at No. 3. The pair met in the championship game after beating Cincinnati and Michigan, respectively, and the Bulldogs would hold Young to 6.5 yards per throw and make two picks to take the first of back-to-back titles.

LSU vs. Alabama, 2011

Results: LSU 9-6, Alabama 21-0

The Tigers’ overtime win during the regular season was about as ugly as the score suggests with five field goals being the only scores. The rematch in the title game about two months later wasn’t any better. Alabama’s defense barely allowed LSU to cross midfield in this second meeting to win the second of Nick Saban’s six titles in Tuscaloosa.

Results: Florida State 24-21, Florida 52-20.

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No other rematch has come within such a short time frame. FSU topped Florida on Nov. 30 to end the regular season and drew the immediate rematch in the Sugar Bowl, which was designated as the championship game in the Bowl Alliance format, because then-No. 2 Arizona State was obligated to face No. 4 Ohio State in the Rose Bowl. This time, Steve Spurrier’s Gators bombarded the Seminoles to capture the first national title in program history with the Sun Devils falling to the Buckeyes.



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SPIRIT LAKE, Iowa (KTIV) – The Iowa Great Lakes community is remembering Leo “Butch” Parks, a longtime lakes-area businessman and founder of Parks Marina.

He died Tuesday, Jan. 6, at the age of 81.

Parks established the marina on East Lake Okoboji in 1983, growing it from a small fishing boat operation into a business with marinas, sales, service, rentals, storage, and popular destinations like the Barefoot Bar.

Parks and his wife, Debbie, also owned Okoboji Boat Works for 23 years.

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Funeral services are set for Friday, Jan. 16, at St. Mary’s Catholic Church in Spirit Lake. It will be followed by a celebration of life at Snapper’s restaurant in Okoboji that evening.

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