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Grading the San Francisco Giants' offseason (for now)
An offseason grade for the San Francisco Giants? Nonsense. There’s still offseason left! They can sign Cody Bellinger. They can sign Blake Snell. They can sign Clay Bellinger. They can sign Ian Snell. It’s too early and reductive to give anyone a final grade for the winter.
But you have an idea. Instead of a report card, let’s treat this as a progress report. There’s still time for the grades to get better or worse, but not much, and they probably won’t change that much, either.
Different Giants fans are expecting different things for the team this season, so they’re going to have wildly different grading standards. So we’ll have different grades for different expectations, and remember that most of these are provisional. There’s still a chance for the Giants to shuffle into the Hot Stove League’s office hours and ask if there’s any extra credit they can do.
The provisional offseason grade for the Giants fan who thinks they have (or had) a legitimate shot at the postseason: C-
Trading Mitch Haniger and Anthony DeSclafani for Robbie Ray was a cagey move. It eliminated an outfield logjam of corner outfielders, and it cleared a rotation spot at the same time. It also gave the Giants a trade-deadline acquisition a couple months early, as Ray should be back in the second half of the season after rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. If he opts into his contract, he’ll give the Giants a high-ceiling starter next season.
Ray doesn’t help at all for the first few months of this season, though. The Giants will need wins in April, May, June and July to have a chance at the postseason in a competitive National League, even with the extra wild card.
The Jordan Hicks experiment could work splendidly, and the Giants were probably going to opener their way through the first part of the season without Alex Cobb and Ray anyway. Might as well get someone who can return to his role as a high-leverage reliever if it doesn’t work.
If it doesn’t work, it could cost the Giants wins in April and May. Which, again, isn’t a complaint to brush away. They missed the postseason by six games in 2022 and five games last season. An extra two wins in each of the first three months would have allowed them to squeak in. A “we’ll figure it out” strategy seems like a great way to miss the postseason by a handful of games.
Jung Hoo Lee should help significantly, but apart from him and Hicks, this current 40-man group looks an awful lot like the roster from last season. Dan Szymborski at FanGraphs had a good summary in his ZiPS writeup:
The problem with the hitters is similar to the pitchers in that they’re acceptable everywhere and disastrous nowhere, but don’t have a great deal of high-end upside.
“Acceptable everywhere and disastrous nowhere” isn’t a synonym for “good,” and the Giants still need help preventing and scoring runs.
Acquiring one of Cody Bellinger or Matt Chapman could get this grade up to a B- or C+. Acquiring one of them along with one of the few available starting pitchers who are in high demand could even get them in the B+ range. As is, it’s been a rough offseason for the people who thought the Giants entered the offseason with a realistic chance to compete with the Marlins, Reds, Cubs, Padres, Diamondbacks and Phillies for a wild-card spot. They’ve gotten a little better, but they needed to get substantially better to have a chance.
Adding Chapman would help but still wouldn’t push the Giants into automatic playoff contention status. (John E. Sokolowski / USA Today)
The provisional offseason grade for the Giants fan who never thought they were going to compete, regardless of what they did in the offseason: B
There are people reading this who entered the offseason thinking the Giants were so far away from contention that one or two free agents — even the ones the stupid Los Angeles Dodgers got — weren’t going to help them much. There are some folks who correctly assumed that the Giants wouldn’t get those free agents, which meant it was always going to be impossible to spend their way out of fourth place. For these fans, there wasn’t a 16-step blueprint to get the Giants to 90 or 93 wins; the talent deficit was always going to be too much to make up.
While this fan didn’t get the complete teardown, rebuild and tank strategy they might have liked, think about the offseason developments that have aligned with the idea that the Giants need to start thinking more about the future than the present:
• They didn’t get another shortstop to block Marco Luciano, like Willy Adames. Luciano’s bat will be what turns him into an everyday major leaguer, but if he can become even an average defender, he’ll be even more valuable to the Giants. This also gives Tyler Fitzgerald a chance to contribute.
• They moved a right-handed outfielder off the roster, which should give Heliot Ramos and/or Luis Matos more chances for major-league at-bats. The former will likely get the first crack at the job, and the latter will (hopefully) come to spring training stronger than he was last season, and could get regular at-bats if he starts hitting for more power with Triple-A Sacramento.
• Their big free-agent expenditure on the offensive side was on a 25-year-old (Lee), which means he should still be in his prime when the Giants are more serious contenders.
• Their big free-agent expenditure on the pitching side was on a 27-year-old (Hicks), and he also might help a future contending Giants team.
• They cleared room in the rotation for Keaton Winn and Tristan Beck for the start of the season, which means they’ll get extended looks before Carson Whisenhunt, Mason Black and/or Kai Wei Teng force their way into a possible spot later in the season.
It’s that last one that would excite me the most if I were bearish on the Giants’ immediate future. Instead of innings going to Anthony DeSclafani, whose ceiling was somewhere between “meh” and “solid,” they’ll get a chance to evaluate Winn and Beck, who are still unknown quantities. They pitched well enough last season to merit a closer look, but they’re not the kind of blue-chip prospects you drop in a rotation and leave alone, like Kyle Harrison. That means the current arrangement — with Cobb and Ray missing the start of the season, and Ross Stripling and Hicks hardly guarantees to leave Scottsdale in the rotation — should work to the benefit of the last year’s rookie starters. If they hit on just one of them, it’ll have been worth it.
The provisional offseason grade for the Giants fan who just wants to be entertained, dang it: C-
Last year’s team was dreadfully boring. You would like 95 wins and a postseason berth, but you’ll settle for a watchable team that looks like it’s heading in a positive direction. The parallel would be something like the 1986 team, whose motto of “You Gotta Like These Kids” was wonderful and prescient.
Lee should entertain. He makes contact, which means one fewer slow guy with a .330 OBP and a .410 slugging percentage. Those might be Lee’s overall numbers too, but he’ll do it in a significantly less dull fashion.
Hicks will not be boring. His command and control might frustrate, but you’ll tune into his starts and look for signs of progress. He’ll throw pitches that make you cackle, and that’s an important part of the sporting experience.
My favorite players are the ones that make me cackle. Steph makes me cackle. CMC and Deebo make me cackle. It’s been a while since the Giants had a player who made me cackle. They need to get one of those. They don’t need a star. They need a cacklemaker.
— Grant Brisbee (@GrantBrisbee) December 20, 2023
The Giants will give Luciano every chance to stick, and while he might chase sliders in the opposing on-deck circle, he’ll probably do more than a few encouraging things. He’ll hit the ball harder than anyone else on the roster, that’s for sure.
There should also be room for anyone who hits or pitches their way out of the minors, whether that’s Wade Meckler or Hayden Birdsong, and that should make for a more watchable team. And while new manager Bob Melvin is still going to use openers and platoons as needed, it seems unlikely that he’ll insert himself into your viewing experience as much as his predecessor, for better and worse.
Even considering all of that, the current middle of the order for the Giants is some permutation of Wilmer Flores, Michael Conforto, J.D. Davis, Mike Yastrzemski and others. Again, all of them are major leaguers, and all of them deserve 300-plus at-bats somewhere, but it’s a little rough to watch them simultaneously in the same lineup, especially for a franchise that hasn’t had a 30-homer hitter since Barry Bonds.
The provisional final offseason grade for the Giants fan who wanted a star: F
Win some, lose some. And by “win some,” I meant “win none.” You keep writing things like “Giants + Shohei Ohtani Giancarlo Stanton Bryce Harper Aaron Judge Carlos Correa Shohei Ohtani (the second time)” on your Pee Chee folder, and you keep crossing them out.
The star is going to have to come from inside the organization. Luciano has a shot. Bryce Eldridge does, too. It sure seems like a longshot for anything like this to happen this season, which means attendance isn’t likely to bounce back. Can’t wait for the combination of Juan Soto and Roki Sasaki rumors next year. This time they’ll get their man, for sure.
It’s been an odd offseason in the sense that the fans who are the most pessimistic about the talent level on the active roster should be the happiest about how the offseason has gone. No, Farhan Zaidi or a new president of baseball operations didn’t trade veterans for prospects and commit to a full rebuild, but they signed a couple unique talents in their mid-20s, and they’re in a position to give a lot of playing time to rookies and second-year players. Even if the Giants hover around .500 again, they’ll do it in a more sustainable way, which is the point for anyone who has written them off for 2024.
There’s still offseason left, and I can’t stress that enough. It’s possible for the Giants to acquire another strong position player and a complement to Logan Webb near the top of the rotation. You’re not expecting it, and you’re laughing at the fans who are, but it’s still technically possible.
Until then, the Giants are going to need a lot of internal help in several different areas. Depending on your expectations before the offseason started, this offseason has been surprisingly effective or a squandered opportunity yet again.
(Top photo of Jordan Hicks: Brad Penner / USA Today)
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Tony Vitello just lost the only Giants allies he has left
Bullet point summary by AI
- San Francisco Giants manager Tony Vitello faces mounting criticism after his recent public remarks about his team’s performance.
- Vitello’s approach has begun to fracture the unity within the clubhouse just as the season heads toward a critical juncture.
- The front office now weighs whether to make broader changes or let the rookie manager work through his growing pains.
The San Francisco Giants lost five straight games heading into Sunday’s contest against the Colorado Rockies. While Rafael Devers has turned his season around to some degree, the same cannot be said of manager Tony Vitello, whose antics have put him between a rock and a hard place. Vitello’s hiring was a controversial one to begin with, as he had no big-league experience but thrived at the collegiate level with the Tennessee Volunteers. Buster Posey surely couldn’t have seen this season’s struggles coming.
Vitello hasn’t maintained his composure well this season, and it’s starting to impact the Giants clubhouse as this season fades into obscurity. Posey himself has stayed relatively quiet on Vitello’s future, and if Giants fans had their way he’d likely be a one-and-done manager. Vitello’s players, to their credit, have stayed together…until now. Over the weekend, the first-time MLB manager questioned his players’ effort and pride, a tactic that may have worked for him in Knoxville but will surely backfire in a larger market like San Francisco.
Tony Vitello betrayed the trust of Giants players
The Giants took a 6-3 lead in Friday’s game against the Rockies, but eventually blew that advantage in an 8-6 defeat. They fell behind quickly on Saturday in Colorado as well.
There’s only so much a manager can do to shoulder blame when his players aren’t performing up to par. However, blaming them to the media isn’t going to sit well in the clubhouse.
“We need to take a little more pride, I think, in how we…It’s ideal to not have last night occur, but bounce back,” Vitello told the media. “I got the vibe like we were in a position to do that. The first six outs we had at the plate would say that, but getting in a hole makes it a little tougher after that.”
Vitello isn’t necessarily wrong in his commentary of the Giants’ play of late, and even what he perceives as a lack of effort. However, he’d be wise to keep that criticism internal and call clubhouse leaders into his office to better apply that feedback.
Are bigger changes coming for the San Francisco Giants?
Speaking of fair criticism, this is one the players could surely push back onto their first-time manager: Vitello is in over his head. The Giants have already reassigned third-base coach Hector Borg in a wake-up call of sorts. If that doesn’t work — and the five straight losses suggest it hasn’t — then perhaps larger changes are looming.
Posey could opt to sell at the trade deadline. While Devers and Willy Adames are likely here to stay thanks to their large contracts, Robbie Ray is an attractive trade asset for contending teams and is on the final year of his deal. FanSided’s Chris Landers ranked Ray ninth on his trade deadline big board just last week.
“Ray…is an open and shut case: He’s in the final year of his five-year contract, and while he’s no longer the power pitcher he was in his prime, he’s still got gas left in the tank as a No. 4 starter who could even pivot to a valuable bullpen role in the postseason,” Landers wrote.
Posey and the Giants should not rush to panic and fire Vitello in season. Doing so defeats the entire purpose of hiring him. Vitello is learning on the job. Perhaps he’ll find his footing in the dog days of summer. Criticizing his own players, who thus far have had his back, isn’t a step in the right direction.
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I’m a San Francisco bar operator. Young tech bros are going sober — but they still want to sip on mocktails
This as-told-to essay is based on a conversation with Greg Lindgren, a 57-year-old bar operator from San Francisco. He co-owns 15 Romolo, The Cordial, Rye Cocktail Bar, and the events company Rye on the Road with Jon Gasparini. It’s been edited for length and clarity.
In San Francisco, you throw a rock, and you hit a laptop.
We started in the industry at the adolescence of the 1.0 boom. I have friends who worked for Webvan. Over the years, we’ve worked for all of the household names in the PayPal Mafia that survived the first crash and created the second wave.
When we opened Rye, we went to Google ourselves. The first result was a Yelp review. This was 2006. The person who made the review was the sixth hire at Yelp. I recognized his name, because there’s a lot of convergence between real-life social and tech.
We have a warehouse in SoMa. We’re a half block away from where Twitter was founded. This building was a temporary place where Airbnb, pre-IPO, was building its business. We get mail for Brian Chesky.
We’ve had a front row seat. “Silicon Valley” is a documentary. It’s a lot of fun to watch and be a part of it.
The trend toward abstaining from drinking has been ongoing for a while. Around the time that people started looking at alternative forms of eating, they were toying around with cutting back on alcohol.
It’s been gaining momentum over the last few years. It’s not just health, and it’s not just trying to have that edge.
There’s a new gold rush happening. The miners in the last year and a half are mostly young men. Some of them are abstaining from a health-maxxing standpoint. Other people just didn’t drink; they’re already of that generation.
There’s a herd mentality to tech, especially when so many people have arrived so recently. Smart people adopt this lifestyle and say, “I need to signal to everyone around me that I have all the edge, and that we’re not going to succumb to distraction.” One of the things in that conversation is alcohol consumption.
Those same people are taking other things. It’s more of an older generation, but people of the VC class are getting one-shotted on ayahuasca.
There are still groups that hit it hard. An example: young parents. When you have kids, you stop going to bars and restaurants, and you hunker down for a few years. Once their kids are preschoolers or elementary schoolers, those parents come roaring back. It’s like they’ve been let out of prison.
The same thing holds true for various tech cultures. We work with a company that’s in-person five days a week and is heavily sales-driven. They built a whole bar within their corporate headquarters, and we’re the contract bar that services that. There’s a social bonding aspect.
Mocktails are all the rage at tech events
More than a few years ago, we saw the writing on the wall, and that’s when we went into mocktails.
We work with a company that’s a household name. We’ve gone there on several occasions with beer, wine, and a cocktail available. We’ll watch as the mocktail that we brought is the thing that everybody’s drinking. We’re happy to be there.
Everything is better and more professional by having a service like ours there, whether or not they’re drinking alcohol at 4 in the afternoon. It helps with breaking the ice to have something in your hand. It’s not going to be a cigarette, and you can only have so much caffeine.
The people who assemble these events look at reactions. It’s similar to having a cool photo booth; it’s something people remember.
The business model hasn’t shifted. I can count on one hand the number of times we’ve been hired to do just non-alcoholic drinks. There has not been a reduction in price or a rejection of the offering as people change their event curation.
So far, companies are not fixating on: “Hey, we noticed that a lot of people are drinking less alcohol.” They’re asking: “Did we have a great event? Did we get everyone together, whether they drank sparkling water or an old-fashioned?”
That’s what we see in the current landscape. It hasn’t slowed our business down.
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18-year-old dies in crash on I-80 near SoMa district
(KRON)– An 18-year-old is dead, and several others are injured after an early morning crash on eastbound I-80, near the 7th street off ramp in San Francisco’s SoMa district, according to California Highway Patrol San Francisco (CHP SF).
The crash occurred around 1:00 a.m. between a tractor-trailer, a Recology truck semi, and a grey Chevrolet Camaro, according to CHP officials.
Police said the Camaro was traveling eastbound just west of 7th Street when it made an illegal lane change to the right, colliding with the tractor-trailer as it was approaching the off-ramp.
Both vehicles crashed into the sand barrels at the top of the 7th Street off-ramp, officials said. The tractor-trailer continued onto the offramp, where it came to a stop, blocking all lanes.
After hitting the sand barrels, the Camaro continued, launching over the off-ramp bridge railing, where it dropped 25 feet and landed in the San Francisco Police Department Impound parking lot beneath the off-ramp and hitting several vehicles in the impound yard, police said. The Camaro landed upside down on top of another car.
Police said four people were inside the Camaro. The driver, an 18-year-old man, had moderate injuries and managed to get himself out of the car, police said. The right front passenger, a 17-year-old male, suffered moderate injuries as well.
The two rear passengers, both 18-year-old men, suffered major injuries. One is being treated at a local hospital, and the other was pronounced dead at 1:50 a.m. at the scene of the crash, police said.
The other three passengers in the Camaro were wearing seatbelts, and the 18-year-old who died was not wearing a seatbelt.
CHP SF officials do not believe alcohol or drugs were a factor in this crash.
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