CLEVELAND, Ohio — U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan needs to completely classify fentanyl-related substances as Schedule I medicine, if Republicans take management of the U.S. Home of Representatives subsequent yr.

We’re speaking in regards to the letter Jordan despatched Drug Enforcement Administration administrator Anne Milgram on Right this moment in Ohio.

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Why is Ohio’s Congressman Jim Jordan attempting to alter how fentanyl is classed for legislation enforcement functions?

Let me get this straight. I will be drunk as a skunk, sitting behind the wheel of my automotive with my engine operating, but when I’m asleep and never shifting, I can’t be charged with driving underneath the affect? How did the Ohio Supreme Court docket break up the hair on this one?

Has all the unusual maneuvering to load the state college board with right-wing activists began to have an have an effect on on policy-making for Ohio training? How is Ohio’s College board proposing to leap into the political enviornment in an enormous method involving LGBTQ college students?

Can girls all of the sudden get abortions in Ohio, not less than quickly?

St. Vincent Charity Hospital has been a mainstay of care for the reason that Civil Warfare period, most not too long ago offering much-needed indigent care in one in all Cleveland’s impoverished neighborhood. for many years, Why is the hospital all however closing down in November?

Does a single shred of proof exist to prop up the seemingly preposterous declare Tuesday at a Cuyahoga County Council assembly that the estimated value of the jail has jumped from $500,000 million to $700 million? Or is that this extra possible a part of the phony marketing campaign for urgency by these dashing to lock in on a jail plan on a poisonous website earlier than a brand new county government takes workplace?

How does an Orthodox Jewish man in College Heights say the mayor is persecuting him and violating his spiritual freedom with the usage of non-public investigators and surveillance?

The Biden administration is stamping out the phrase squaw on federal lands, as a result of it’s derogatory, so what are the reservoirs, streams, island and bay which have new names in Ohio?

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Chris: [00:00:00] We had our editorial board endorsement interview Wednesday with Lee WGAR and Chris Roan for Cuyahoga county government. And it was fiery. In the event you’re attempting to determine who to vote for, you ought to observe this and see it. We’ll be placing all of it up on Sunday on cleveland.com. Excellent dialog, very distinct decisions that you simply’ll see it’s at this time in Ohio, the information podcast dialogue from cleveland.com and the plain vendor.

I’m Chris Quinn right here with Lisa Garvin, Laura Johnston and Layla Tossi Lisa and Layla. You have been concerned in that dialog yesterday with out giving something away. Do you was my description of it correct?

Leila: sure, it was scorching, proper?

Chris: Yeah. I imply, it was good. It was civil, nevertheless it was the, the purpose. Sure. Yeah. And, and look, they, they they’re two totally different guys. They arrive at it with two totally different administration types. They’ve totally different positions that they [00:01:00] articulate. Fairly clearly. Uh, and due to our format, which I like our format, you already know, we police it just a little bit.

We throw the flag when there’s stuff that we all know is sort of bogus and so they speak to one another whereas we ask provocative questions, it really works fairly effectively. I had, I had, uh, written a column a pair weeks in the past, suggesting we would try to arrange a debate between these two the place they ask one another the questions.

Everyone got here again and stated, please do it. Please do it. We’re not having a lot luck discovering a venue for that. This wasn’t that. However man, it was shut. This was, this was good. I feel anyone that’s going to vote can be price giving up 90 minutes to observe it. It was good things. Yeah. They

Leila: actually, they challenged one another in a method that was very, very price watching.

I imply, I’d say of, of all of the endorsement interviews that, that we’ve

Laura: participated in.

Leila: This was, this was probably the greatest

Chris: mm-hmm it was enjoyable. I imply, how typically do you get to say that we sit by means of a few of these the place it’s like, man, these candidates are horrible. [00:02:00] They haven’t any spark and you may’t say that about this.

They each got here to the sport and, uh, performed effectively. Yeah. Let’s start. Why is Ohio’s Congressman Jim Jordan attempting to alter how fentanyl is classed for legislation enforcement functions? Lisa, what struck me about this story is it’s simply so odd with all, all the problems within the land. What’s Jim Jordan doing? Choosing this one.

Lisa: I feel he’s attempting to separate hairs right here. And Jordan is, is saying that if Republicans retake the home and he turns into the home judiciary committee chair, he’ll search everlasting schedule. One classification of fentanyl. This present classification expires on December thirty first. It was fabricated from schedule. Drug again in 2018 and so they’ve always renewed it since then.

And it seems like a, you already know, like a logical factor. He despatched a letter to the DEA administrator, Ann Milgram. He says he needs info on how this momentary classification has, or [00:03:00] has not helped stem the opioid disaster, however the Biden administration they’re okay with making fentanyl associated substances.

Everlasting schedule one medicine, however they’re sort of saying, effectively, not fentanyl associated compounds which are scheduled by class. Um, so I’m, I’m, I’m attempting to parse this, however so what they wish to do, some fentanyl associated compounds have very small quantities of fentanyl. And they also’re afraid that the necessary minimal penalties, you already know, you already know, that might be placed on all schedule one fentanyl medicine.

You recognize, um, Individuals, they are saying that there can be racial disparities. They, they stated they might exclude any circumstances with direct hyperlinks to demise or damage, however others, they concern that, you already know, it will end in intercourse, extreme sentencing, particularly for folks of colour who solely have hint quantities of fentanyl, however Jordan’s brought about that argument unconvincing.

Chris: I, [00:04:00] I, I don’t perceive why he’s picked this challenge. We discuss Jordan on a regular basis, cuz he’s the large trumps Ahan and he’s at all times pushing the, the ridiculous chunkiest of Trump claims. What what’s this about? Why is he doing this? I, I

Lisa: suppose that he’s, you already know, he needs to appear like the legislation and order man, you already know, if he’s gonna head up the judiciary committee, he’s like, he calls it a cynical bargaining device to scale back or take away penalties for drug sellers.

So he’s principally parroting the road to, oh, we’re letting criminals out onto the streets. I feel that that’s the narrative he’s attempting to strike.

Chris: Okay. So possibly it’s a part of his thought for the way he hunt. Did the judicial committee, if the Republicans retake the home, unusual one, you’re listening to at this time in Ohio.

So Laura, let me get this straight. I may very well be drunk as a skunk sitting behind the wheel of my automotive with my engine operating, but when I’m asleep on the wheel and never shifting, I can now not be [00:05:00] charged with driving underneath the affect. How did the Ohio Supreme court docket break up the hair on this one?

Laura: Nicely, that’s right to be driving underneath the affect.

It’s a must to be driving or working the, the motorized vehicle, which is the crux of this case, that the judges had a bizarre break up on. And to the purpose the place Jennifer Bruner was trotting out dictionary definitions of working on this. So this can be a 4, three ruling involving a case wherein a Hamilton county lady, she was beforehand convicted in of an OVI working a car intoxicated.

She was thrown out of a buddy’s. Discovered hours later by police sleeping within the driver’s seat of the parked automotive with the engine run operating. So she’s already acquired an Obi. Can she get, uh, discovered of a violation of that Obi by working car once more, uh, for driving underneath an Obi suspension principally, and an appeals court docket overturned her conviction saying there should be proof that she moved the car and the bulk.

Mentioned they agree with that, that Ohio legislation [00:06:00] doesn’t instantly state, whether or not that scenario must be thought of working. So it’s as much as them and so they pulled out this dictionary definition and, uh, justice, pat Fisher had a separate concurring place. After which there was a dissent the place, uh, justice, Sharon Kennedy and, um, Maureen O’Connor, we’re on the identical facet with my, with, um, Matt DeWine, which I used to be like, wow, you don’t see these three collectively.

Chris: Though I, that is the sort of case, I feel that causes folks to lose religion within the court docket system. If, if I’m behind the wheel with the engine operating, then, then clearly I’ve been shifting. Keep in mind when this occurred to Zach Reed, he, he fell asleep at a cease mild. There’s no method that anyone might say, yeah, he was drunk.

Can I soar in? He acquired right into a automotive that was sitting in a cease mild and fell asleep. I imply, see, I feel,

Laura: effectively, I suppose, I don’t know the place she was sleeping, like the place this was.

Leila: Nicely, right here’s the factor. No, they, they speak although about how there needs to be proof that somebody was shifting the automotive [00:07:00] and somebody asleep on the stoplight.

There may be clear proof that they have been shifting the automotive. So underneath these circumstances you’d be discovered responsible. I’m positive of working the car.

Laura: However in the event you’re parked in a car parking zone that you simply have been parked,

Leila: you may need gotten within the automotive. That’s the place you set the automotive, you weren’t driving it. Perhaps you turned the automotive on, however you didn’t go anyplace.

I’m on the facet of this

Laura: opinion. I too, and I like the concept I feel Brun wrote that if the definition of function, that if a toddler listens precisely whereas sitting within the driver’s seat of a automotive, parked on a public street with a key within the ignition, would that little one be responsible of working motorized vehicle license with out a legitimate license, which I.

No, in fact

Leila: not. Proper, proper. As a result of once we say working, we imply driving and so we wouldn’t. Yeah, precisely. That’s what offered me on this. I used to be like, that’s precisely proper.

Laura: Though, ought to you must ever let your youngsters sit within the entrance seat with ? No, in fact,

Lisa: however I, I’ll say this as a religion. The reader of the solar messenger blotter, each Thursday is that I can’t let you know how [00:08:00] many occasions folks get arrested for falling asleep or being drunk at a cease mild.

You recognize, I, it occurred yeah,

Leila: lots, however in that case, like, like we stated, proper, you, you have been driving the automotive and it’s clear you have been as a result of how’d you get on the stoplight . However, however if you’re within the car parking zone the place you left the automotive, whenever you went into the bar and also you got here out and that’s the place they discovered you.

You weren’t driving it. You didn’t drive. Now, when you have your foot on the, on the, you already know, the, the. And also you go to sleep and also you carry your foot off that break and also you crash right into a, you already know, fence, you

Laura: drove it responsible. So

Leila: I agree. I feel that is, you already know, I simply want that once they wrote the legislation, that they had contemplated the truth that.

You’re good. The phrase working is so murky. Simply say what you imply whenever you, whenever you, you already know, write laws. don’t simply depart it as much as interpretation, like

Laura: this scary definitions of the way in which you use.

Chris: nice factors. You’re listening to at this time in Ohio. [00:09:00] Has all of the unusual maneuvering to load the state college board with proper wing activists began to impact coverage making for Ohio training.

How is the Ohio’s college board proposing to leap into the political enviornment in an enormous method involving. LGBTQ college students later they’ll do taking a place on one thing that hasn’t even occurred but. Yeah,

Leila: the, effectively, so the us division of training has proposed this enhancement to title IX protections for homosexual and transgender youngsters.

However now we see a proposed decision on the Ohio state board of training. Opposing that federal proposal and inspiring native faculties to defy it. And this transfer is sparking accusations that it’s merely politically motivated and supposed to only fire up these tradition wars throughout election season on the expense of susceptible youngsters.

So, so title IX. Withholds federal funding from teaching programs, practising intercourse based mostly discrimination, and Biden’s [00:10:00] proposed guidelines would come with sexual orientation and gender identification in that as effectively, faculties that violate title IX might face federal funding cuts for packages that assist every thing from classroom instruction to free and scale back lunch packages.

However this state college board decision claims organic intercourse shouldn’t be fluid or changeable. And if it passes. It will require the state superintendent of public instruction must, they must ship all faculties that obtain federal funds for instruction. Um, free and lowered lunch and different packages, a letter that claims the brand new federal guidelines are with out power non-binding and unenforceable.

It will additionally urge native faculties to not amend their insurance policies and procedures to fall according to that new rule. And it will throw assist behind a lawsuit that Dave Yoast and different attorneys normal have filed towards the Biden administration about all of this. The res the decision additionally would, would again payments within the Ohio home and Senate [00:11:00] that might ban transgender women and girls from enjoying women and girls’s highschool and faculty sports activities.

After which, you already know, I saved one of the best for final, the decision would urge the Ohio normal meeting to go legal guidelines, to power faculties, to reveal to folks. When their little one asks for different names and pronouns for use or questions their very own, I, their very own gender identification. Significantly, that is what we’re doing.

Policing, what names youngsters choose to be referred to as in class and the way they really feel about themselves. I imply, anyway, it’s all horrible, however that half actually stood out to me.

Chris: However in the event you defy, if this turns into a rule and also you defy it, you’re gonna lose your cash. You, you already know, you possibly can’t defy these guidelines and maintain getting the, the title, no matter funding.

Nicely,

Leila: that’s, that’s, what’s a head scratcher to me as a result of how is it that this decision simply declares that, you already know, the federal guidelines are unenforceable and non-binding, I, I simply don’t get that. They wanna pump out these letters to, to varsities saying, don’t fear about it. You recognize, we [00:12:00] acquired your again and also you simply go forward and defy.

They’re going to lose their funding. If, if that Biden, uh, rule involves go,

Chris: look, let’s face it. The opposite factor is this isn’t what the varsity board’s for. This isn’t what the state college board is meant to be doing. They’re presupposed to be taking a look at curricula. They’re presupposed to be taking a look at academic requirements.

However as we all know from the previous yr, they’ve the, the folks which are targeted on training have been changed by sort of wing nuts. And they also now are immersing themselves in political nonsense. These are Mike Dew wine’s appointments which are doing this. Keep in mind they appointed any person to be the state superintendent.

Regardless of all proof that he had a big battle of curiosity, which our reporter Laura Hancock had repeatedly confirmed. After which he’s not within the job what per week earlier than they understand, oh, that is dangerous. That is truly a criminal offense that’ll be investigated. And he quits and the, the varsity board appears to be like ridiculous for having proceeded.

Anyway, these [00:13:00] individuals are dangerous information. I, we must always most likely begin taking a look at some sort of constitutional modification on how. Fill this college board, there’s too many appointments and too little of the, the voters will.

Leila: Sure. And I imply, politicizing points like that is so reprehensible. I imply, advocates for the trans group say there’s a direct correlation between anti-trans laws and the bullying that trans youth expertise in school.

And I actually consider that. I imply, even simply entertaining this ledge, this decision has that impact of emboldening transphobia. Uh, how, how, you already know, So

Chris: terrible. Proper. And, and it doesn’t have something to do. What’s occurring within the classroom and so they’ll, they’ll do it. We’re gonna present you what’s occurring within the classroom.

Come Monday, we acquired a large challenge occurring. That’s about training. It’s what these folks must be targeted on Laura. Precisely.

Laura: Oh, I simply, I don’t suppose that this has a task in telling my college district what they need to be doing

Chris: in any respect. Yeah, it’s dangerous information. It’s [00:14:00] at this time in Ohio. Okay. Lisa, can girls all of the sudden get abortions in Ohio, not less than for some time?

It is a shock transfer that opens a window. It

Lisa: actually is. And I guess there are a number of girls scrambling for appointments proper now. Hamilton county, frequent police court docket, choose Christian Jenkins, granted a short lived restraining order to plaintiffs that halt enforcement. Six week fetal heartbeat invoice for 14 days.

So now in Ohio abortions are authorized for as much as 22 weeks of being pregnant. That’s the earlier Ohio legislation. And through this time, medical doctors and clinics can’t be prosecuted for, you already know, doing something throughout these 14 days, however they’re additionally in search of, uh, an extended, uh, like a preliminary injunction that might prolong it, uh, effectively out.

Previous six weeks, I consider so. Yeah. They’re, they’re asking Jenkins for a preliminary injunction for your complete period of the case truly till all of the constitutional points are resolved. Do not forget that, uh, they [00:15:00] first the plaintiffs, that are abortion suppliers throughout Ohio represented by the a C L U.

They went to the Ohio Supreme court docket saying, Hey, we wish a ruling on the constitutionality of the fetal heartbeat legislation. They have been taking too. They took their case to Hamilton county, choose Christian Jenkins. And so, as a result of they have been uninterested in ready, they stated folks have been being harmed throughout this. So Jenkins thought of a number of affidavit, circumstances of Ohio sufferers that have been turned away throughout this fetal heartbeat legislation being in impact.

It included a lady with a needed being pregnant, however had a, a fetus with extreme anomal. Two most cancers sufferers who have been denied chemotherapy therapy as a result of they have been pregnant a number of ectopic pregnancies. Regardless of that being a medical exemption for ladies’s well being, they have been nonetheless being turned away. So, um, the state fought again.

They stated that affected Ohio girls ought to have participated within the case. However choose Jenkins says, effectively, that’s a fairly doubtful argument. They’re already underneath excessive misery. They don’t have a time to [00:16:00] get a lawyer and take this factor to court docket. So yeah, this. Fascinating. So for 14, however haven’t we had Ohio clinics shut for the reason that fetal heartbeat legislation went into impact.

Chris: So yeah, it’s I don’t, I don’t understand how a lot of an impact it’ll have plus let’s face it. Dave, yo will instantly enchantment this to an appellate court docket and no matter they rule it’ll get appealed to the Ohio Supreme court docket, which is the place this case was sitting languishing a separate case with no resolution. So it’ll be attention-grabbing to see the way it performs out, but when they go to an appellate court docket and so they cease it, then all the ladies that is likely to be dashing get appointments are gonna get whipsaw.

I imply, that is the state of abortion rulings at this time. Uh, there once more, you stated they’re in search of the injunction for the lifetime of the case. Mm-hmm till the problems are determined. It’ll be attention-grabbing to see what in the end the Ohio Supreme court docket does with that when it reaches it, which appears pretty

Lisa: inevitable.

And naturally the Ohio, proper to life method. Weighed in on this, [00:17:00] Mike go DAAs accuses the plaintiffs of choose purchasing for a positive final result and pointing to the unique go well with with the Ohio Supreme court docket. However we all know why they didn’t try this. And he additionally stated, there’s no proof that the heartbeat legislation is dangerous and Ohio will change into an abortion free state within the close to future.

Chris: Yeah, it’s an extended street to the tip of this story. It’s at this time in Ohio St. Vincent charity hospital has been a mainstay of care in Cleveland for the reason that civil battle period, most not too long ago offering a lot wanted indigent care in one in all Cleveland’s impoverished neighborhood. Why is the hospital all, however closing down in November, Laura,

Laura: this can be a acquainted chorus within the healthcare panorama of Cleveland.

And we’ve seen a few hospitals shut within the final couple of months, however there are fewer sufferers being admitted for hospital stays. There’s an enormous progress of outpatient and residential healthcare additionally telehealth. And apparently the shortage of healthcare staff, which clearly has affected [00:18:00] hospitals throughout the nation shouldn’t be an enormous issue right here.

It’s extra simply the way forward for healthcare and what they wish to spend. They’re, you already know, put their concentrate on and so they’ve been shedding cash for greater than a decade. I imply, hundreds of thousands of {dollars}, each. And on their budgets. In order that they’re gonna maintain their pressing care companies. They’re going to maintain outpatient, psychological well being companies, dependancy therapy, and inner medication and specialty clinics.

They’ll now not be in ER, downtown and no extra of their 416 hospital beds. These shall be gone. There’s truly a plan for a well being campus, extra according to. The wants of the group that focuses on the social determinants of well being. That plan got here out, uh, I feel final yr, and though we didn’t know, the hospital was gonna be closing as a part of it.

Chris: Yeah. And, and look, it’s one other, we, we talked not too long ago about college hospitals closing down all, however closing down two amenities in a number of the suburbs that aren’t as rich as others.

Laura: Yeah. Bedford and Richmond Heights. [00:19:00] Nicely, whereas including onto Ahuja.

Lisa: in Beachwood.

Chris: Precisely. And that is one other shot at Ingen care.

It’s going to make it tougher for folks of lesser means to get healthcare. St. Charity St. Vincent charity has supplied a extremely a lot wanted service endlessly, however they’ll’t pay the payments. They’ve been, when was the final time they have been operated within the black, was it 2000?

Laura: I feel it is likely to be. I imply, it’s that way back and so they’ve been, they have been based in 1869.

Take into consideration that. And in 2010 they ended a decade of joint ventures enterprise with, uh, in order that they’ve been underneath their very own. Administration sole possession by the sisters of charity well being system. And also you’re proper. They targeted on indigent care and so they did lots with therapy and psychological well being and, um, medicine and alcohol that, you already know, consultants say, different hospitals are going to need to step in and assist right here as a result of this isn’t a necessity that’s going away.

It was one of many few 24 7 psychiatric emergency departments in olive of Ohio.

Chris: [00:20:00] Though Metro well being nonetheless serves the, the identical group Metro well being subsequent month is opening an enormous psychological well being hospital in Cleveland Heights, together with its new campus. It’s acquired a complete new hospital that they’ve constructed additionally opening subsequent month.

So there’s nonetheless prospects, however that is proper within the coronary heart of downtown, proper? The others should not it’s a part of the winnowing, the lengthy predicted winnowing of. The variety of medical care amenities within the

Lisa: area. And I, you already know, cuz I labored for MD Anderson most cancers heart for 17 years and, and noticed how, you already know, they expanded into the suburbs, you already know, cuz they needed to go to the place sufferers have been after which everybody else did that.

After which all of us. Sudden you had, you already know, healthcare establishments lower than a mile from one another. And I’d argue that this can be a pivoting of healthcare on the whole. I imply, it, I feel by means of the pandemic, we noticed a number of the ways in which, you already know, we might serve the PA with out having hospital beds. I imply, St occasion, isn’t go going away.

Neither [00:21:00] is, uh, Bedford or Richmond Heights. They’re simply not having hospital beds. And I perceive that’s an issue, however they’re, I feel they’re pivoting to serve the social determinants of well being as Laura point out.

Laura: Proper. I agree. And also you’re proper. Residence healthcare is it’s extra comfy for lots of sufferers.

It’s cheaper. It’s the longer term. Proper. In order that they’re attempting to get forward of that. However to your different level, I bear in mind when it was, uh, in Metro well being, they each put up model new gleaming, shiny buildings on the 77 82 interchange. One’s in Ville, one’s in Broadview Heights, you’re on the freeway and also you see them each.

And also you’re like, did we want this. Actually

Chris: okay. You’re listening to at this time in Ohio, does a single shred of proof exist to prop up the seemingly preposterous declare Tuesday at a Cuyahoga county council assembly that the estimated value of the jail has jumped from 500 million or 550 million to 700 million.

Is that this [00:22:00] extra possible a part of a phony marketing campaign for urgency by those that are inexplicably dashing? To lock in on a jail plan on a poisonous website earlier than the subsequent county government takes workplace Layla, each Chris Verne and Lee WGAR are clear. They won’t construct this jail on that poisonous website, it doesn’t matter what the county council does now.

So it is mindless that they’re dashing, however now we’ve got, oh, it’s now 700 million since you laggards are ready too lengthy. Proper? Any fact to

Leila: that at. Nicely, yeah, that is precisely how I felt about it. After I noticed this story come throughout throughout this council assembly, um, on the, they have been speaking in regards to the proposed land buy for the jail gross sales tax enhance and all the opposite jail associated plans and the county’s jail advisor, Jeff Applebaum dumps on them that their prior estimate from 2020 that the brand new jail would value.

As you stated, 550 million is now outdated. And that they, the price of balloon to anyplace between 700 and 750 million, relying on [00:23:00] what number of inmates they plan on accommodating at that website. And he stated he arrived at that new estimate by contemplating building trade information that reveals the will increase in building prices since late 2020 have been between 27% and 33%.

However in fact it’s not misplaced on us that this new price ticket comes because the strain is mounting locally. To place this new jail plan on ice till after the brand new county government takes workplace in just some months. I imply, might this be an try at counter strain and council with the specter of ever growing prices and the chance that in the event that they wait any longer, the expense is just going to proceed to rise.

I imply, apple bomb’s literal phrases have been at each single steering committee assembly. The one chorus was each month of delay in implementation has elevated prices. So. Yeah, I feel that this was an try and strain counsel and to really feel like tick, tick, tick, you already know, we’re shedding time. Time is cash.

Chris: Yeah, it it’s, it’s [00:24:00] throwing the flag, however, however right here’s the factor.

The jail value shouldn’t be decided by. The jail, the jail value is set by the federal government. They have a look at the cash they’ve accessible and so they design a jail that’s throughout the price range. It’s not some, effectively, the it’s it’s you gotta construct this mannequin. It needs to be this it’s like what they did with the med mark.

We talked yesterday about different flushing, $50 million down the drain on that they didn’t need to spend 50 million on that. They might have gone with a 20 million plan or a ten million plan. It’s their resolution. So for him to. Oh, oh, Jill, it’s gonna value three quarters of a billion {dollars} now since you’re being gradual.

You’d’ve wished that any person on the desk would’ve stated, Hey, Mr. Applebaum, you’re not telling us how a lot it prices. We’ll let you know how a lot we’re gonna spend on it. And let’s design a jail that matches our

Laura: price range. Hey, can I simply add in right here, like. There may be, we don’t also have a website but. how have you learnt what sort of jail you’re going to construct?

In the event you don’t know what the positioning is? And of in fact, issues are getting costlier. Such as you’d need to be an fool to suppose [00:25:00] that that the quantity was going to remain the identical, however I nonetheless really feel like they’re pulling numbers out of. They air, like, what’s only a tremendous, even quantity. Like, we’ll simply be it seven 50.

I imply, we don’t, let’s say billion the place we’re constructing it, let’s imagine

Lisa: 1.5 billion.

Laura: Proper? I imply, however they don’t imply any, these numbers don’t imply something.

Leila: Let me, let me to your level, Laura, about how they don’t have a website. Nicely, they suppose they’ve a website, however okay. An additional 200 million, however how a lot of that must be spent on mitigating the environmental and well being hazards on the positioning they plant?

Yeah.

Laura: There’s no, no price ticket on that. Proper.

Leila: That’s not about the price of that and I’m positive it received’t be low-cost. So how a lot of that cash might they save by not constructing the jail? I’m positive.

Chris: Noble. Nicely, this will get again to a query I’m being requested with growing frequency by our readers. This makes so little sense that there’s simply no justification for what they’re doing.

So individuals are asking who’s cashing in on this. What the, the one motive to maneuver ahead with such a preposterous plan is that if [00:26:00] any person’s profiting, who’s it, and we’re gonna maintain asking these questions, no matter occurs. I, I, I just about can assure you. This jail won’t be constructed on that website as a result of Roan and Winegart, received’t construct it there and so they’re gonna be the county government, Michael Malley’s the prosecutor he’s useless set towards this.

He’s acquired the ability of the legislation the place he might mess with them. So it’s not gonna occur. It’s completely not going to occur. Why are they dashing to do it then once they understand it, received’t. What’s the per, who’s the person who earnings by getting this completed now solely to have it undone later. That’s the important thing query.

And the place are the county council members like Jack Shon, who declare to signify the taxpayer? Trigger that is folly and never one in all them is talking as much as say no, no, no, let’s not be silly. Good. You hear, questions. Pay attention at this time in Ohio. how does an Orthodox Jewish man in college Heights say the mayor is persecuting him and violating [00:27:00] his spiritual freedom with the usage of non-public investigators and surveillance.

Lisa, that is a kind of lawsuits that sort of soar out at you. Is the mayor actually doing this?

Lisa: In line with the lawsuit filed by college Heights, resident Daniel grand. He. Federal lawsuit that accuses the town of college Heights and its mayor Michael di Brennan of violating his civil and non secular rights.

So what occurred was is that, uh, you already know, Orthodox Jews don’t journey by automotive through the Chaba, which begins at sundown Friday. And that ends when the celebs come out on Saturday, they’ve to hope 3 times a day although. So grand stated, you already know, that might, he would dwell possibly a. From the synagogue. And he says, effectively, I’m strolling forwards and backwards 3 times a day.

Let me have a prayer group in my house. So he did that. And I suppose folks acquired upset, you already know, um, the town ordered him, you already know, that they had a stop and desist order. They are saying that grand wanted a allow to function a synagogue. He says, whoa, whoa, whoa. I’m simply. Having [00:28:00] a prayer group right here, he utilized for that allow, however then he withdrew that request.

After 100 folks joined a zoom assembly of the town planning fee and so they got here out towards him. So the lawsuit accuses mayor Brennan of sending letters to opponents, encouraging their attendance at this zoom assembly, he retaliated with police patrols, stopping guests to Grant’s house and questioning them.

After which. Lawsuit alleges Brennan employed non-public investigators to spy in him. There have been unmarked SUVs parked exterior his home. He additionally acquired cited for, he put up a material display screen between him and his neighbor as a result of the neighbor pointed his surveillance digital camera at Grant’s home. So he acquired. Cited for that, it was dismissed on enchantment, however then the town retroactively denied approval for offense that grant had already erected.

So this is sort of a litany of ills right here. After which he, uh, had a public data request again in June of 2021. He needed all of the [00:29:00] emails that mentioned him and his property. That requests has nonetheless not been.

Chris: It, it, it we’ll have to attend and see how this metropolis responds to this, however that is scary. It’s a, if, if what he’s saying is true, it’s a daunting abuse of metropolis powers.

I imply, surveilling his home, uh, when he’s attempting to have a prayer assembly, um, is, goes very far past, and it’s unusual as a result of college Heights has a major group, enormous,

Lisa: Orthodox job. I see them strolling on the streets on a regular basis, you already know, through the cha I.

Laura: I lived there and I don’t bear in mind there ever being an issue.

I lived there for 9 years.

Chris: I, yeah, it’s, we’ll need to see what. So how the town responds to this. So you’d suppose that residents can be up in arms about it it’s at this time in Ohio. I feel that does it for at this time. We had some technical difficulties, however I feel we’re gonna lead the final query for tomorrow, cuz we’re at time.

Thanks, Lisa. Thanks, Layla. Thanks, Laura. Thank to everyone [00:30:00] listens. Come again on Friday. We’ll wrap up the week.