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Hi, friends! Welcome to Installer No. 34, your guide to the best and Verge-iest stuff in the world. (If you’re new here, welcome, so psyched you found us, and also, you can read all the old editions at the Installer homepage.) 

I also have for you an excellent new video game show, a new ebook reader worth a look, yet another doc about how bad tech is, a sweet new drone, and much more.

I also have a question, one I can’t believe I haven’t asked yet: What do you use AI for? Are you using Copilot to write all your emails? Cooking with the help of ChatGPT? Querying your every thought with some app I’ve never even heard of? Not getting anything out of AI at all? I want to know the apps and platforms you’re using and how you’re using them — I’m obsessed with trying to figure out what AI is actually for, and I want to hear all your thoughts.

Alright, lots to get to this week, and I have a plane to catch. (If you’re in Chicago, come see me talk AI, and come say hi!) Let’s go.

(As always, the best part of Installer is your ideas and tips. What are you into right now? What should everyone else be into right now? Tell me everything: installer@theverge.com, or hit me up on Signal. I’m @davidpierce.11. And if you know someone else who might enjoy Installer, and tell them to subscribe here.)

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The Drop

  • Fallout. First The Last of Us, then Super Mario Bros., now this! We’re suddenly spoiled for choice in great video game adaptations. It’s postapocalyptic, it’s epic, it’s apparently pretty funny? The reviews are fantastic — I’ll be watching this on the plane to and from Chicago this weekend. Can’t wait.
  • The DJI Avata 2. There are two kinds of drones: camera drones and flying drones. This one’s a flyer: a first-person experience through goggles that lasts longer and moves better than its predecessor. I need to take one of these for a spin.
  • Find My Device on Android. It took Google a while to get this right, but device tracking is a great feature — and it appears Google will be much more open with the network than Apple is with Find My. Clever to use Nest devices to tell you where you left your keys in the house, too.
  • The Antisocial Network: Memes to Mayhem. Most of these hand-wringy Netflix docs about how bad the internet is — The Great Hack, The Social Dilemma, that sort of thing — are simplistic and frustrating to watch. This 4chan doc has a bit of the same problem but is smart and deep enough to teach you a few things about the web.
  • Frame.io Version 4. If you do anything with video, especially with other people, this is a big upgrade: Frame.io this week got much better search, more organization tools, and custom metadata for better keeping track of things. And it’s all much better on mobile now.
  • Kobo’s Clara Colour. Color ebook readers! I love that Kobo exists as a check on and competitor to the Kindle, even though I’m stuck in Amazon’s ecosystem at this point. This is the latest and greatest in E Ink, and for $150, the faster and better Clara seems like a good deal.
  • “This Invention Made Disney MILLIONS, but Then They LOST It!” The Sodium Vapor Process is both an incredibly cool story about the history of filmmaking and a rad-sounding name for a pop punk band. Fun video about a fun invention and why a much worse product ended up winning out.
  • Fairphone’s Fairbuds. Repairable earbuds are a huge win. Because, you know, environment and waste and stuff, but also because you can replace the battery when the battery dies! As someone who keeps replacing AirPods because they only last an hour after a while, this is a big win. They look pretty nice, too.
  • Strut. This is a really nice-looking app for anyone who writes a lot. It’s part blank page, part organizer, plus a bunch of AI writing tools built in. You’ll pay if you want the AI, but lucky for me, I don’t. Free writing apps for the win!
  • Civil War. I don’t know if I want to see this movie because it seems so plausible or if I never want to see this movie because it seems so plausible. But by all accounts, this dystopian near-future America goes pretty hard — though we’ll see if it really pulls it off.

Screen share

I’ve known Eric Migicovsky since he was making smartwatches, way before everyone was making smartwatches cool. After years of running Pebble and a stint as a VC, he’s spent the last few years building a cross-platform messaging app called Beeper. It’s a great app, had a messy fight with Apple, and recently was acquired by Automattic, which owns WordPress.com and Tumblr and a bunch of other things. Eric’s now in charge of Automattic’s big messaging plans — and they’re seriously big.

I asked Eric to share his homescreen knowing two things: he’s an Android fan through and through, and he uses a lot of messaging apps. I mean, he made a messaging app to collate all those messaging apps, so what do you expect? Eric’s also Canadian, which means… I don’t know, exactly. But I wanted to find out.

Here’s Eric’s homescreen, plus some info on the apps he uses and why:

The phone: Samsung Z Flip 5 — smallest Android phone on the market right now!

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The wallpaper: No idea, probably a default one?

The apps: Maps, Photos, YouTube Music, Phone, Camera, Superhuman, Beeper, Chrome.

One of the things I love the most about Android is how few taps are required to perform tasks. I love having Calendar and Google Search right on the homescreen. We added a search button to the Beeper Android widget for the same reason! One click + type name = message anyone you want.

I still have ALL the chat apps installed because I need to keep tabs on them!

I also asked Eric to share a few things he’s into right now. Here’s what he shared:

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  • I have two kids under four so I don’t get a ton of free time, but we’ve enjoyed 3 Body Problem on Netflix and Mr. & Mrs. Smith
  • I’m listening to Kitchen Confidential by Anthony Bourdain and just finished reading There Is No Antimemetics Division by qntm — my new favorite author! Highly recommend their short story “Lena.” It’s made me reconsider my wish to have my brain uploaded at some point.
  • Best new app is ChatGPT — I use the audio version to create short stories and have it include my kiddos in them!

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Here’s what the Installer community is into this week. I want to know what you’re into right now as well! Email installer@theverge.com or message +1 203-570-8663 with your recommendations for anything and everything, and we’ll feature some of our favorites here every week. 

Tom Scott’s Weekly Newsletter. I’ve gotten some of my favorite stuff on the internet from that newsletter, like Kern Type, this post on anagrams, and so much more.” – Nachiketa

“I picked up Grindstone after a while away from it and have managed to 100 percent complete the main levels, the bonus levels and the “cosmic darkside,” and collect all the achievements. It has been worth the price of Apple Arcade on its own!” – Rod

“I’ve recently moved to the UK and I needed to get a bank. I chose Revolut. The app is feature-packed, reminding me a little of Simple (RIP). It’s a little loaded, and I really had to get used to it, but it works, and it’s pretty incredible. The multi-national, multi-currency use is impressive. It’s available in the US, too!” – Greg

“I’ve been using AntennaPod for over a year, and it’s a perfect app to replace Google Podcasts. It’s open source, no ads, no analytics, and the people who work on it are amazing: they regularly conduct community calls to discuss the project and take feedback very seriously. Android only!” – Chethan

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“Playing Dune: Imperium (on Android). Such a great way to experience this incredible board game! The AIs are tough!” – Gary

“I’ve been catching up with the criminally underrated John Rogers on YouTube. He typically makes history videos walking through the various boroughs of London, but the one that has caught my attention is him walking to North Ockendon, a small village that is technically considered part of London.” – Joe

“I’ve been rewatching early episodes of The Big Bang Theory and marveling at all the older tech. iPod docks in every apartment, an entire subplot about Siri when it launched on the 4s, and the super chunky Windows laptops.” – Kaleb

“I’m giving Lyrak a shot this week. Yes, ANOTHER social media app. They claim it’s built to be more real time than Threads, so better for news, which is good, and built on ActivityPub, which is great. Federation for the win! Still giving it a shot, but it’s interesting.” — Sighjinks

“So I was playing Rytmos, an iOS puzzle game with a really great visual design themed around world music. They’ve got a bunch of Spotify playlists with examples of the music that inspired the game, but I’m an Apple Music user. So I turn to SongShift, a surprisingly handy little app that can, say, give you the Tidal link for a song you scrobbled on Last.fm or copy your old iTunes playlists right into YouTube. Even when it can’t find a track, it makes it really easy to help you, a human, match the correct one. It’s super handy to switch music streaming services and continues to be handy to send and receive links to my Spotify friends.” – Daniel

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Signing off

A couple of weeks ago, I complained here about my busted keyboard and my complicated relationships with clicky mechanical keyboard. Thanks to everyone who reached out with ideas! Some of you were like, “Buy these switches and this keyboard and do this customization and it only costs $95,000,” and to all of you: thank you, you’re my favorite. But the main recommendation I got was for the Logitech MX Keys, which I ended up buying. I love this thing so far. I’m certainly no expert, but it’s clicky without being loud, it has approximately six trillion shortcut keys and customization options, and it feels both fantastic and easy to type on. The backlight is kind of finicky and uneven, but I’ll take that in exchange for the hardware microphone-mute key that has already made every meeting 10 percent more manageable. 

Thanks to everyone who recommended stuff! Someday I will go Full Mechanical Keyboard, and I promise to update you with all the dumb decisions I make. 

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HP ZBook Ultra G1a review: a business-class workstation that’s got game

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Business laptops are typically dull computers foisted on employees en masse. But higher-end enterprise workstation notebooks sometimes get an interesting enough blend of power and features to appeal to enthusiasts. HP’s ZBook Ultra G1a is a nice example. It’s easy to see it as another gray boring-book for spendy business types, until you notice a few key specs: an AMD Strix Halo APU, lots of RAM, an OLED display, and an adequate amount of speedy ports (Thunderbolt 4, even — a rarity on AMD laptops).

I know from my time with the Asus ROG Flow Z13 and Framework Desktop that anything using AMD’s high-end Ryzen AI Max chips should make for a compelling computer. But those two are a gaming tablet and a small form factor PC, respectively. Here, you get Strix Halo and its excellent integrated graphics in a straightforward, portable 14-inch laptop — so far, the only one of its kind. That should mean great performance with solid battery life, and the graphics chops to hang with midlevel gaming laptops — all in a computer that wouldn’t draw a second glance in a stuffy office. It’s a decent Windows (or Linux) alternative to a MacBook Pro, albeit for a very high price.

$3499

The Good

  • Great screen, keyboard, and trackpad
  • Powerful AMD Strix Halo chip
  • Solid port selection with Thunderbolt 4
  • Can do the work stuff, the boring stuff, and also game

The Bad

  • Expensive
  • Strix Halo can be power-hungry
  • HP’s enterprise-focused security software is nagging

The HP ZBook Ultra G1a starts around $2,100 for a modest six-core AMD Ryzen AI Max Pro 380 processor, 16GB of shared memory, and basic IPS display. Our review unit is a much higher-spec configuration with a 16-core Ryzen AI Max Plus Pro 395, 2880 x 1800 resolution 120Hz OLED touchscreen, 2TB of storage, and a whopping 128GB of shared memory, costing nearly $4,700. I often see it discounted by $1,000 or more — still expensive, but more realistic for someone seeking a MacBook Pro alternative. Having this much shared memory is mostly useful for hefty local AI inference workloads and serious dataset crunching; most people don’t need it. But with the ongoing memory shortage I’d also understand wanting to futureproof.

  • Screen: A
  • Webcam: B
  • Keyboard: B
  • Trackpad: B
  • Port selection: B
  • Speakers: B
  • Number of ugly stickers to remove: 1 (only a Windows sticker on the bottom)

Unlike cheaper HP laptops I’ve tested that made big sacrifices on everyday features like speaker quality, the ZBook Ultra G1a is very good across the board. The OLED is vibrant, with punchy contrast. The keyboard has nice tactility and deep key travel. The mechanical trackpad is smooth, with a good click feel. The 5-megapixel webcam looks solid in most lighting. And the speakers have a full sound that I’m happy to listen to music on all day. I have my gripes, but they’re minor: The 400-nit screen could be a little brighter, the four-speaker audio system doesn’t sound quite as rich as current MacBook Pros, and my accidental presses of the Page Up and Page Down keys above the arrows really get on my nerves. These quibbles aren’t deal-breakers, though for the ZBook’s price I wish HP solved some of them.

The big thing you’re paying for with the ZBook Ultra is that top-end Strix Halo APU, which is so far only found in $2,000+ computers and a sicko-level gaming handheld, though there will be cut-down versions coming to cheaper gaming laptops this year.

The flagship 395 chip in the ZBook offers speedy performance for mixed-use work and enough battery life to eke out an eight-hour workday filled with Chrome tabs and web apps (with power-saving measures). I burned through battery in Adobe Lightroom Classic, but even though Strix Halo is less powerful when disconnected from wall power, the ZBook didn’t get bogged down. I blazed through a hefty batch edit of 47-megapixel RAW images without any particularly long waits on things like AI denoise or automated masking adjustments.

An understated workhorse of a laptop, for an opulent price.

An understated workhorse of a laptop, for an opulent price.

The ZBook stays cool and silent during typical use; pushing it under heavy loads only yields a little warmth in its center and a bit of tolerable fan noise that’s easily drowned out by music, a video, or a game at normal volume.

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This isn’t a gaming-focused laptop any more than a MacBook Pro is, as its huge pool of shared memory and graphics cores are meant for workstation duties. However, this thing can game. I spent an entire evening playing Battlefield 6 with friends, with Discord and Chrome open in the background, and the whole time it averaged 70 to 80fps in 1920 x 1200 resolution with Medium preset settings and FSR set to Balanced mode — with peaks above 100fps. Running it at the native 2880 x 1800 got a solid 50-ish fps that’s fine for single-player.

Intel’s new Panther Lake chips also have great integrated graphics for gaming, while being more power-efficient. But Strix Halo edges out Panther Lake in multi-core tasks and graphics, with the flagship 395 version proving as capable as a laptop RTX 4060 discrete GPU. AMD’s beefy mobile chips have also proven great for Linux if you’re looking to get away from Windows.

HP Zbook Ultra G1a / Ryzen AI Max Plus Pro 395 (Strix Halo) / 128GB / 2TB

Asus Zenbook Duo / Intel Core Ultra X9 388H (Panther Lake) / 32GB / 1TB

MacBook Pro 14 / Apple M5 / 16GB / 1TB

MacBook Pro 16 / Apple M4 Pro / 48GB / 2TB

Asus ROG Flow Z13/ AMD Ryzen AI Max Plus 395 (Strix Halo) / 32GB / 1TB

Framework Desktop / AMD Ryzen AI Max Plus 395 (Strix Halo) / 128GB / 1TB

CPU cores 16 16 10 14 16 16
Graphics cores 40 12 10 20 40 40
Geekbench 6 CPU Single 2826 3009 4208 3976 2986 2961
Geekbench 6 CPU Multi 18125 17268 17948 22615 19845 17484
Geekbench 6 GPU (OpenCL) 85139 56839 49059 70018 80819 86948
Cinebench 2024 Single 113 129 200 179 116 115
Cinebench 2024 Multi 1614 983 1085 1744 1450 1927
PugetBench for Photoshop 10842 8773 12354 12374 10515 10951
PugetBench for Premiere Pro (version 2.0.0+) 78151 54920 71122 Not tested Not tested Not tested
Premiere 4K Export (shorter time is better) 2 minutes, 39 seconds 3 minutes, 3 seconds 3 minutes, 14 seconds 2 minutes, 13 seconds Not tested 2 minutes, 34 seconds
Blender Classroom test (seconds, lower is better) 154 61 44 Not tested Not tested 135
Sustained SSD reads (MB/s) 6969.04 6762.15 7049.45 6737.84 6072.58 Not tested
Sustained SSD writes (MB/s) 5257.17 5679.41 7317.6 7499.56 5403.13 Not tested
3DMark Time Spy (1080p) 13257 9847 Not tested Not tested 12043 17620
Price as tested $4,689 $2,299.99 $1,949 $3,349 $2,299.99 $2,459

In addition to Windows 11’s upsells and nagging notifications, the ZBook also has HP’s Wolf Security, designed for deployment on an IT-managed fleet of company laptops. For someone not using this as a work-managed device, its extra layer of protections may be tolerable, but they’re annoying. They range from warning you about files from an “untrusted location” (fine) to pop-ups when plugging in a non-HP USB-C charger (infuriating). You can turn off and uninstall all of this, same as you can for the bloatware AI Companion and Support Assistant apps, but it’s part of what HP charges for on its Z workstation line.

You don’t need to spend this kind of money on a kitted-out ZBook Ultra G1a unless you do the kind of specialized computing (local AI models, mathematical simulations, 3D rendering, etc.) it’s designed for. There’s a more attainable configuration, frequently on sale for around $2,500, but its 12-core CPU, lower-specced GPU, and 64GB of shared memory are a dip in performance.

Thunderbolt 4? On an AMD laptop?

Heresy! (I like heresy.)

If you’re mostly interested in gaming, an Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 or even a Razer Blade 16 make a hell of a lot more sense. For about the price of our ZBook Ultra review unit, the Razer gets you an RTX 5090 GPU, with much more powerful gaming performance, while the more modest ROG Zephyrus G14 with an RTX 5060 gets you comparable gaming performance to the ZBook Ultra in a similar form factor for nearly $3,000 less. The biggest knock against those gaming laptops compared to the ZBook is that their fans get much louder under load.

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And while it’s easy to think of a MacBook Pro as the lazy answer to all computing needs, it still should be said: If you don’t mind macOS, you can get a whole lot more (non-gaming) performance from an M4 Pro / M4 Max MacBook Pro. Even sticking with Windows and integrated graphics, the Asus Zenbook Duo with Panther Lake at $2,300 is a deal by comparison, once it launches.

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This keyboard is excellent.

At $4,700, this is a specific machine for specialized workloads. It’s a travel-friendly 14-inch that can do a bit of everything, but it’s a high price for a jack of all trades if you’re spending your own money. The ZBook piqued my interest because it’s one of the earliest examples of Strix Halo in a conventional laptop. After using it, I’m even more excited to see upcoming models at more down-to-earth prices.

2025 HP ZBook Ultra G1a specs (as reviewed)

  • Display: 14-inch (2880 x 1800) 120Hz OLED touchscreen
  • CPU: AMD Ryzen AI Max Plus Pro 395 (Strix Halo)
  • RAM: 128GB LPDDR5x memory, shared with the GPU
  • Storage: 2TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD
  • Webcam: 5-megapixel with IR and privacy shutter
  • Connectivity: Wi-Fi 7, Bluetooth 5.4
  • Ports: 2x Thunderbolt 4 / USB-C (up to 40Gbps with Power Delivery and DisplayPort), 1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2, 1x USB-A 3.2 Gen 2, HDMI 2.1, 3.5mm combo audio jack
  • Biometrics: Windows Hello facial recognition, power button with fingerprint reader
  • Weight: 3.46 pounds / 1.57kg
  • Dimensions: 12.18 x 8.37 x 0.7 inches / 309.37 x 212.60 x 17.78mm
  • Battery: 74.5Whr
  • Price: $4,689

Photography by Antonio G. Di Benedetto / The Verge

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Humanoid robots are no longer hiding in research labs somewhere. These days, they are stepping into public spaces, and they are starting to look alarmingly human. 

A Shanghai startup has now taken that idea further by unveiling what it calls the world’s first biometric AI robot. Yes, it is as creepy as it sounds. The robot is called Moya, and it comes from DroidUp, also known as Zhuoyide. The company revealed Moya at a launch event in Zhangjiang Robotics Valley, a growing hotspot for humanoid development in China. 

At first glance, you can still tell Moya is a robot. The skin looks plasticky. The eyes feel vacant. The movements are slightly off. Then you learn more details about her, and that’s when the discomfort kicks in.

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Warm skin makes this humanoid robot feel unsettling

HUMANOID ROBOTS ARE GETTING SMALLER, SAFER AND CLOSER

Even when standing still, the robot’s posture and proportions blur the line between machine and person in a way many people find unsettling.  (DroidUp)

Most robots feel cold and mechanical. Moya does not. According to DroidUp, Moya’s body temperature sits between 90°F and 97°F, roughly the same range as a human. Company founder Li Qingdu says robots meant to serve people should feel warm and approachable. That idea sounds thoughtful until you picture a humanoid with warm skin standing next to you in a quiet hallway. DroidUp says this design points toward future use in healthcare, education and commercial settings. It also sees Moya as a daily companion. That idea may excite engineers. However, for many people, it triggers the opposite reaction. Warmth removes one of the few clear signals that separates machines from humans. Once that line blurs, discomfort grows fast.

Why this humanoid robot’s walk feels so off

Moya does not roll or glide. She walks. DroidUp says her walking motion is 92 percent accurate, though it is not clear how that number is calculated. On screen, the movement feels cautious and a little stiff. It looks like someone is moving carefully after leg day at the gym. The hardware underneath is doing real work. Moya runs on the Walker 3 skeleton, an updated system connected to a bronze medal finish at the world’s first robot half-marathon in Beijing in April 2025. Put simply, robots are getting better at moving through everyday spaces. Watching one do it this convincingly feels strange, not impressive. It makes you stop and stare, then wonder why it feels so uncomfortable.

Camera eyes and facial reactions raise privacy concerns

Behind Moya’s eyes sit cameras. Those cameras allow her to interact with people and respond with subtle facial movements, often called microexpressions. Add onboard AI and DroidUp now labels Moya a fully biomimetic embodied intelligent robot. That phrase sounds impressive. It also raises obvious questions. If a humanoid robot can see you, track your reactions and mirror emotional cues, trust becomes complicated. You may forget you are interacting with a machine. You may act differently. That shift has consequences in public spaces. This is AI moving out of screens and into physical proximity. Once that happens, the stakes change.

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Price alone keeps this robot out of your home

If you are worried about waking up to a warm-skinned humanoid in your home, relax for now. Moya is expected to launch in late 2026 at roughly $173,000. That price places her firmly in institutional territory.  DroidUp sees the robot working in train stations, banks, museums and shopping malls. Tasks would include guidance, information and public service interactions. That still leaves plenty of people uneasy, especially those whose jobs already feel vulnerable to automation. For homes, the future still looks more like robot vacuums than walking companions.

Up close, Moya’s eyes look almost human, which raises questions about how much realism is too much for robots meant to operate in public spaces.  (DroidUp)

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What this means to you

This is not about buying a humanoid robot tomorrow. It is about where technology is heading. Warm skin, camera eyes and human-like movement signal a shift in design priorities. Engineers want robots that blend in socially. The more they succeed, the harder it becomes to maintain clear boundaries. As these machines enter public spaces, questions about consent, surveillance and emotional manipulation will follow. Even if the robot is polite and helpful, the presence alone changes how people behave. Creepy reactions are not irrational. They are early warning signs.

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Kurt’s key takeaways

Moya’s debut feels worth paying attention to because she is real enough to trigger discomfort almost instantly. That reaction matters. It suggests people are being asked to get used to lifelike machines before they have time to question what that really means. Humanoid robots do not need warm skin to be helpful. They do not need faces to point someone in the right direction. Still, companies keep pushing toward realism, even when it makes people uneasy. In tech, speed often comes before reflection, and this is one area where slowing down might matter more than racing ahead.

If a warm-skinned robot with camera eyes greeted you out in public, would you trust it or avoid eye contact and walk faster? Let us know by writing to us at Cyberguy.com.

Moya’s humanlike appearance is intentional, from her warm skin to subtle facial details designed to feel familiar rather than mechanical.   (DroidUp)

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Since the xAI-SpaceX merger announced last week, which combined the two companies (as well as social media platform X) for a reported $1.25 trillion valuation — the biggest merger of all time — a handful of xAI employees and two of its co-founders have abruptly exited the company, penning long departure announcements online. Some also announced that they were starting their own AI companies.

Co-founder Yuhai (Tony) Wu announced his departure on X, writing that it was “time for [his] next chapter.” Jimmy Ba, another co-founder, posted something similar later that day, saying it was “time to recalibrate [his] gradient on the big picture.” The departures mean that xAI is now left with only half of its original 12 co-founders on staff.

It all comes after changing plans for the future of the combined companies, which Elon Musk recently announced would involve “space-based AI” data centers and vertical integration involving “AI, rockets, space-based internet, direct-to-mobile device communications and the world’s foremost real-time information and free speech platform.” Musk reportedly also talked of plans to build an AI satellite factory and city on the moon in an internal xAI meeting.

Musk wrote on X Wednesday that “xAI was reorganized a few days ago to improve speed of execution” and claimed that the process “unfortunately required parting ways with some people,” then put out a call for more people to apply to the company. He also posted a recording of xAI’s 45-minute internal all-hands meeting that announced the changes.

“We’re organizing the company to be more effective at this scale,” Musk said during the meeting. He added that the company will now be organized in four main application areas: Grok Main and Voice, Coding, Imagine (image and video), and Macrohard (“which is intended to do full digital emulation of entire companies,” Musk said).

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