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One morning in the mid-1970s, a solemn announcement came over the intercom at Friends Seminary: “Noted person John Lennon is now in the meetinghouse. Walk, don’t run.”

We didn’t run. But we wanted to.

I ended up perched with the rest of my second-grade class on a hard wooden pew in the balcony of our Quaker school’s meetinghouse on East 16th Street in Manhattan. Built in 1860, the meetinghouse was old, dignified and a little creaky; it had absorbed the echoes of abolitionist debates, suffragist meetings and restless kids failing to sit still. That morning, I wasn’t sitting still. We were children, but we knew the Beatles.

And then, suddenly, there he was: John Lennon.

I remember the hush — a collective inhale — and then the whispers. I’m pretty sure Lennon was dressed in black when he entered. That’s how I always remembered him. He soon stood onstage in his wire-rimmed glasses, looking exactly like the face I’d seen staring from album covers. He was right there.

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A ripple of laughter broke the tension. I can still hear his voice, his dry jokes, the wry expression when one boy asked about the beautiful woman who’d accompanied him — not Yoko Ono, but someone else. But the words themselves? Gone. Did he talk about music? Politics? Did he sing? Why was he even there?

For years, I clung to the memory like a relic. It was one of those surreal childhood moments that made me wonder if I had imagined it. It was a story I could tell anywhere — When I was in second grade, John Lennon came to my school! My 22-year-old daughter had heard it so many times she could recite it. But recently, when I brought it up, she looked at me skeptically. “Did that happen?”

I was stunned. Of course it happened. Didn’t it? If this had happened today, there would be mounds of evidence: blurry TikTok clips, tagged Instagram posts, shaky iPhone videos capturing every joke. But in the mid-1970s, an event like this could actually fade and disappear.

I called the Friends Seminary alumni office. They had heard of the “legendary” event but had no photos or records to verify it. Strangely, it hadn’t even appeared in the yearbook that year.

“When did this happen again?” the receptionist asked.

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“It was 1974,” I said. But even as I answered, I realized I wasn’t totally sure myself. “Wasn’t it?”

A quick plea in a Friends Seminary alumni Facebook group opened the case. Within hours, former students and teachers chimed in, each clutching their faded scraps of memory. A composite portrait started to come into focus, but nothing concrete.

Alice Stern, who is 65 and a retired librarian, remembers how Principal Seegers — a cautious but friendly Quaker with glasses and a full head of gray hair — stood on the stage and read Lennon’s credentials from an index card as though he was a guest from the Board of Education.

Then Lennon said, “OK,” exaggerating his Liverpudlian accent for effect. “Fire away.”

Apparently we did.

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A former 10th-grader remembered asking if the song “#9 Dream” had a hidden backward message. The answer was yes.

An ex-middle schooler recalled blurting out: “What does ‘goo goo g’joob’ mean in ‘I Am the Walrus’?” Several people remembered this question. No one remembered Lennon’s answer.

Some swore he played guitar, but that was wishful thinking. Lou Rowan, a long-retired English teacher who is 83 and living in the South of France, told me that Beatles songs had played on a tape recorder before the discussion began, but Lennon waved off requests to perform.

The most mundane answers endured all these decades.

Did he have pets? Yes, two cats: Major, white with black spots, and Minor, a black tuxedo cat.

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A lower-school boy even asked how much money he had, and Lennon replied with a smirk: “A whole lot.”

When the assembly was over, Lennon exited the auditorium and was heading to an interview with student reporters when a sixth-grader named David Rauch made his move.

Ignoring faculty warnings, David dashed forward with a ripped notebook page for Lennon to sign. Now 60, he is associate general counsel at Wells Fargo, lives in Hermosa Beach, Calif., and still has the page, 50 years later.

“I got his autograph first, then asked for the woman with him on the same page because I thought it was Yoko.” It wasn’t Yoko. But May Pang, who was Lennon’s girlfriend at the time, signed anyway.

We students didn’t realize it, but this was near the end of Lennon’s infamous “Lost Weekend,” when he and Yoko were separated. She had kicked him out of their Upper West Side apartment at the Dakota, and he spent 18 months publicly boozing around Los Angeles with musicians like Keith Moon and Harry Nilsson. Soon after his appearance at the meetinghouse, he would return to Yoko, and almost exactly nine months later, Sean Lennon would be born.

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May Pang, who was in her early 20s then, had started as John and Yoko’s assistant but, at Yoko’s urging — some say orchestration — had become his companion during the couple’s separation.

Hoping for clarity, I called Ms. Pang, a retired music executive who lives in Forest Hills, Queens, and is 74 now. She remembered the assembly well, but she ruled out 1973 as too early. She recalls her time with Lennon and was fairly certain the visit to the school was in 1974.

“It was for Rick, some kind of makeup for a school event we missed when we were out in L.A.,” she told me, and confirmed that Lennon did not bring his guitar or sing. “Rick” was Rick Sklar, the longtime program director for WABC radio and an early Beatlemania champion. He was also the father of two Friends students and a member of the P.T.A. Through his connections, pop stars like Patti LaBelle, Harry Chapin and even Alice Cooper made house calls for assemblies and school fair concerts. Lennon’s appearance was his latest production.

“Let me know if you get the exact date,” Ms. Pang said. “I’m so curious now.”

I thought that would be unlikely, but then Ms. Stern, the retired librarian, called back with a breakthrough: She had dug through old boxes and found a copy of “Genesis,” the upper school’s sporadically published newspaper.

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There he was, on Page 3 of the February 1975 issue (Volume 4, No. 3): John Lennon, peering out from a grainy black-and-white photo in his cap and wire-rimmed glasses.

“Beatlemania returned to Friends Seminary on Friday, January 23, when John Lennon paid a visit to our school,” the article begins. Everybody misremembered the year. Unfortunately, Jan. 23, 1975, was a Thursday, not a Friday. But there was another clue: The photo of Lennon was taken by a student photographer, Christopher Gibbs.

I called Mr. Gibbs, who is 66 and a music professor at Bard College, and told him about my quest. Did he have any other pictures from the day Lennon came to our school? Alas, he didn’t think so. But he said that there was another student photographer there that day, Scott Frances, a senior at the time and the best photographer at Friends Seminary. He had shot for the yearbook and went on to have a long career as an architectural photographer.

Mr. Frances, 66, lives in Sag Harbor on Long Island and is still a working photographer. He remembered photographing Lennon, but it was a traumatic memory. There were no pictures of John Lennon in the Friends Seminary yearbook because he had lost the negatives that very week. He didn’t even have the contact sheets.

“They vanished,” he told me. Fifty years later, he still hasn’t given up the hunt.

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“I keep looking,” he said with a rueful laugh.

Then Mr. Gibbs called back, excited. He did find more photos — and his diary.

On Jan. 24, 1975, he had tersely logged his day:

“Saw John Lennon during third period.”

“Most of the questions were very stupid.”

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“Listened to some classical music.”

“‘Young Frankenstein’ is in theaters.”

If the diary of a teenage boy can be trusted, we had confirmation of the date that noted person John Lennon appeared at the Friends Seminary meetinghouse.

I called Ms. Pang back with the fleshed-out story.

“Wait!” she said. “Give me the date again?” There was a long pause. Then: “That was probably the last time I was out with him as a couple.”

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A few days after the school event, Lennon told her he was going for hypnotherapy to stop smoking — and then he moved back into the Dakota.

She hadn’t seen it coming.

She and John were days away from buying a house in Montauk, she told me. The next item on their shared calendar was meeting with Paul and Linda McCartney in New Orleans. “They had just visited us a week earlier and were going to New Orleans to record,” Ms. Pang said.

Within weeks, the papers reported the news: John was back with Yoko, who soon became pregnant with Sean. From that moment on, Lennon effectively became a recluse, rarely seen in public and never to tour again. May was erased, at least officially. According to her memoir, “Loving John: The Untold Story,” which was published a couple of years after Lennon was shot to death outside the Dakota, they would secretly reconnect at odd times until his death.

Her tone was wistful, with a touch of finality.

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“You kids caught him at the last moment of his public life,” she said.

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In 1999, President Bill Clinton stood across the street from New York’s Pennsylvania Station with the state’s governor and its senior senator to announce plans for transforming the area into a modern gateway for the nation’s biggest city.

Presidents do not often appear at news conferences about train stations. But Penn Station, in Midtown Manhattan, was the busiest transportation hub in North America, and Mr. Clinton had made public transit a priority. He and Gov. George E. Pataki posed beside a miniature model of a grand new train hall, while Senator Daniel P. Moynihan extolled its future grandeur.

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“Penn Station is the start,” Mr. Moynihan said, “and we will find — when we complete this project — that suddenly all will seem possible.”

More than 25 years, five presidencies and four governors later, the plan to rebuild Penn Station is nowhere near completion.

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For the 600,000 people who pass through every day, Penn Station is indispensable. It remains the busiest transit hub in the United States, with nearly double the number of daily passengers as the busiest airport, Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International. Much of the Eastern Seaboard might grind to a halt without it.

It is also widely abhorred. Passengers descend into a gloomy, dimly lit warren of overcrowded concourses, much of it layered in grime and corroded by decay, sitting above an array of subterranean tracks whose age creates regular snarls and delays that cost New York millions of dollars in lost productivity each day.

More broadly, it is a stagnant symbol of something deeper in America, a condition that afflicts so many attempts to get big things done: inertia. Again and again, when America undertakes big projects, politics and government get in the way.

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The owners of Madison Square Garden, the arena that sits on top of Penn Station, have rejected proposals to move it.

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Countless ideas for making Penn Station grander and more commuter-friendly have been floated and shelved over the decades. The conversion of the James A. Farley Building across Eighth Avenue into Moynihan Hall for passengers was an exception, if one that ran wildly over budget and beyond schedule. But Moynihan, named for the senator, is mostly ornamental. With each attempt to restart work on the larger underground station, progress has been torpedoed by a political rivalry or a powerful billionaire or infighting among transit agencies with their own priorities.

As yardsticks of American progress go, Penn Station does not inspire pride. Since Mr. Clinton’s appearance there 26 years ago, China has constructed nearly 30,000 miles of high-speed rail tracks and built more than a thousand new stations.

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There have been other bright spots, such as the renovation of LaGuardia Airport in New York. But that took more than eight years. Saudi Arabia built an entire transit system in Riyadh in a little over 10 years.

In the United States, the investment of billions of dollars in taxpayer money and the extraordinary undertaking of renovating century-old infrastructure are among the many reasons large projects stall before they even get off the ground.

But the failure often starts and stops with politics. Some critics blame multiple layers of federal, state and local regulations that deter investment. Some blame a progressive inclination to spread authority to community groups and individuals. Others point to extreme partisan politics as the root of the paralysis.

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Penn Station has basically the same array of tracks and platforms as when it first opened in 1910.

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“We’ve got a system that doesn’t have anyone who can actually make the decision,” said Marc J. Dunkelman, a research fellow at Brown University and the author of “Why Nothing Works.” The stasis at Penn Station is a “microcosm of why generally government doesn’t work,” he said.

Eliot Spitzer, a former Democratic governor of New York, said Penn Station was “a classic example” of how “fractured decision-making” leads to delays and conflicting priorities.

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“When you have that many entities involved, it makes it nearly impossible to get a resolution,” he said.

Penn has long been a station divided, carved up into fiefs occupied and maintained by railroads whose managers constantly compete for authority and resources.

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The station itself, sitting beneath Madison Square Garden, is owned and controlled by Amtrak, the national passenger railroad.

But its primary users are two state-run transit agencies: The Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which runs the Long Island Rail Road in New York, and NJ Transit. Each has exclusive use of some tracks and platforms.

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But they must share most of the tracks and platforms with Amtrak, which has the ultimate say over train movements in and out of the station.

The tension among those three agencies has been compounded by the intransigence of James L. Dolan, the billionaire whose company owns Madison Square Garden, which has squatted atop the station for more than 60 years. Their failure to collaborate on a solution has left Penn mired in a sorry state that has been lamented by a generation of everyday commuters.

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In New York, a long line of strong-willed elected officials — Mr. Spitzer included — have pledged that a makeover of Penn Station was on the way.

In 2006, Mr. Pataki, the Republican governor, spoke of creating “a visionary new Pennsylvania Station.” His successor, Mr. Spitzer, said in 2008 that he was committed to a revamp of Penn that would “redefine Midtown Manhattan.” In 2016, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo likened the station to “seven levels of hell” and, rolling out his own $3 billion plan, vowed, “This will get done.”

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Most recently, the current governor, Kathy Hochul, said that “New Yorkers do not deserve what they have been subjected to for decades at Penn Station” and presented a revised version of Mr. Cuomo’s proposal with an estimated cost of more than $6 billion.

After all of that talk about all of those visions, Penn Station remains a confusing, overburdened labyrinth of hallways and stairwells buried beneath a 20,000-seat entertainment venue.

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Penn Station now serves more daily passengers than even the busiest airport in America.

Its century-old infrastructure takes frequent bites out of the metropolitan economy: Every hour of delay for commuters from Long Island or New Jersey costs the city’s employers nearly $20 million, according to an inflation-adjusted estimate from the Partnership for New York City, a business group.

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Kathryn S. Wylde, chief executive of the partnership, said in 2017 that “Penn Station is a symbol of the failure of America to keep up with the escalating demands on urban public transportation.”

She reiterated that sentiment in September: “Nothing has changed.”

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Community advocates agree. “We really do have a tragic level of institutional dysfunction with warring entities,” said Lynn Ellsworth, who in 2020 co-founded the Empire Station Coalition, which called for a redesign that would render Penn Station more efficient, more welcoming and easier to navigate.

The railroads that coexist within the station, Ms. Ellsworth said, “don’t have the managerial competence to rise above their parochial self-interests.”

Modern Structural Problems

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Penn Station is a layer cake of inadequacy, with three levels that complicate all efforts to improve service for the thousands of people passing through every day.

New York officials have frequently likened a trip through Penn to a descent into hell. Andy Byford, the Amtrak executive recently put in charge of overhauling the station, described the platforms as a “dark, gloomy, boiling-hot, narrow and cramped situation.”

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On the bottom, hundreds of daily trains are confined to essentially the same century-old 21-track layout built for smaller, less frequent trains. The time it takes to get trains in and out of the station is now a main cause of delays and slowdowns.

In the 1960s, when Penn Station was rebuilt with Madison Square Garden atop it, more than 1,000 columns were driven through the platforms, into the bedrock of Manhattan, to support the massive venue and an adjacent office tower.

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In 2025, all those columns — plus staircases, escalators and elevators — force passengers to squeeze through narrow gaps that are sometimes only a few feet wide. Currently, there is not enough space on each platform to hold both arriving and departing riders.

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As passengers ascend to the concourse, they are confronted with a low-ceilinged maze of subterranean corridors into which no natural light has ever shone.

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Track assignments aren’t announced until the last minute to prevent collisions between departing and arriving passengers. So people clump together on the concourse levels — like in this cramped, poorly ventilated NJ Transit waiting area.

The biggest obstacle to a total overhaul of Penn Station is the arena that replaced the original station in the 1960s. Any rearrangement or expansion of the tracks and platforms on the bottom must first grapple with the forest of steel beams holding up the Garden.

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Right now, Amtrak is focused on the construction of a new two-track rail tunnel under the Hudson River, a $16 billion project known as Gateway. (This fall, the Trump administration suspended federal funding for the project and threatened to terminate it in an apparent attempt to pressure Democrats amid a government shutdown.)

The Gateway project would significantly increase train capacity across the Hudson and would require big changes at Penn Station.

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The Garden’s owners, who own the air rights for any development above the station, have resisted recent attempts to arrange the arena’s relocation. In 2023, city officials renewed the Garden’s operating permit for an additional five years.

At the time, Mr. Dolan, the chairman of MSG Entertainment, said in an interview: “Another five years and there’ll be some changes in the political structure and we’ll go at it again. Nothing is going to happen.”

In that 2023 interview, Mr. Dolan expressed doubt that the station’s stakeholders would agree on a comprehensive plan to improve it any time soon.

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“We never get to the finish line, and it’s because of all the politicking and bureaucracy and because of all the different constituencies,” he said. “I mean, there’s New Jersey Transit, there’s Amtrak, there’s the M.T.A., there’s the governor’s office, there’s the city. And everybody has to say yes. And everybody’s got a stick in the fire.”

The roots of all this dysfunction can be traced back more than a century.

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In 1901, Alexander J. Cassatt, the president of the Pennsylvania Railroad, was a frustrated train traveler. To get from Philadelphia to New York City, he had to transfer at his company’s easternmost terminal in Jersey City to a ferry that would carry him the last mile across the Hudson River.

At the time, the country’s rail system was a robust collection of independent companies vying for prominence on the most popular routes. Collaboration was never in their DNA.

His railroad’s main rival, the New York Central Railroad, had already built itself a terminal in the heart of Manhattan, which later became Grand Central Terminal. Mr. Cassatt burned for a competitive foothold in the nation’s largest city.

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“We must find a way to cross,” he said, according to “Conquering Gotham,” a 2007 book by Jill Jonnes.

Within 10 years, Mr. Cassatt’s company had completed the unprecedented feat of digging a tunnel under the Hudson to connect to a station it had created west of Seventh Avenue in Midtown: the new Pennsylvania Station.

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The Pennsylvania Railroad, commonly known as the Pennsy, declared that the station would have “the character of a monumental gateway and entrance to a great metropolis.”

When it opened in 1910, it was heralded as the largest building ever built at one time. Modeled after the Baths of Caracalla in Rome, the Beaux-Arts station was constructed of pink granite, travertine marble and glass skylights.

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Unlike now, arriving passengers ascended into a palatial train hall with an airy concourse topped by vaulted ceilings.

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“In our history, there was never another building like Pennsylvania Station,” the architect Philip Johnson wrote. “It compares to the great cathedrals of Europe.”

The tracks connected the station to new tunnels under the East River, as well as the Hudson, allowing trains to reach Manhattan from the east and the west.

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Then, in the 1960s, the glorious original station was torn down to make way for the Garden, and train riders were moved underground. The demolition of Penn became a rallying cry for preservationists.

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Originally, Penn Station was the province of the Pennsy’s intercity trains and Long Island Rail Road commuter service.

That centralized control could have continued after the mid-1960s if not for one critical error, said Mitchell Moss, a professor of urban policy and planning at New York University.

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In 1965, Gov. Nelson A. Rockefeller had New York buy the struggling L.I.R.R. for $65 million and created the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to manage it. William J. Ronan, the man Mr. Rockefeller hired to run the authority, told Mr. Moss that Rockefeller had passed up the opportunity to also acquire Penn Station for a price that would seem like a screaming bargain today, Mr. Moss recounted.

“He felt that was a terrific mistake,” Mr. Moss said, recalling their conversation at the Everglades Club in Palm Beach, Fla., about 12 years ago.

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“The fundamental original sin was not buying Penn Station,” said Mr. Moss, a critic of how Amtrak has managed the station. “That’s the key error, and that has created a lack of clarity about who controls Penn Station.”

Instead, the M.T.A. wound up as a tenant of Amtrak, the federal corporation that inherited many of the Pennsy’s assets after a 1970 bankruptcy.

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More than a thousand steel support beams contribute to a cramped feeling on the platforms.

Like NJ Transit, the L.I.R.R., the busiest commuter railroad in the country, has carved out its own separate and unequal territory within Penn Station.

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The dividing lines are clear, at least to those who understand the station’s entrenched rules of engagement, as Janno Lieber, the chairman of the M.T.A., does.

Standing beneath a tangle of exposed pipes and wires in a corridor known as the Hilton Passageway, Mr. Lieber explained that each of the railroads is responsible for maintaining its own turf, including the platforms and tracks that only it can use.

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North of the passageway, his agency handles the waxing of the floors and the cleaning of the restrooms. Its police force patrols the concourses.

South of the passageway, those burdens fall on NJ Transit, a perennially struggling state-run corporation. Its workers, clad in fluorescent green T-shirts, replace lightbulbs and scrub the metal prison-style toilets.

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The station has several street-level entrances leading down to the various railroads’ concourses.

Each railroad has its own dedicated entrance at the front of the station on Seventh Avenue.

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NJ Transit’s leads to a waiting area that is cooled by a fleet of large, portable air-conditioners whose exhaust is vented through white ducts that snake up to the ceiling. The cramped area is known to commuters as “the pit” because of how crowded it gets during evening rush hour.

L.I.R.R. customers enter through a broad concourse that was recently widened, brightened and filled with cafes and fast-food shops. Mr. Lieber called it “a much more functional environment” that had come about because the transportation authority chose not to wait for an agreement with the other railroads and, on its own, overhauled just the areas it managed.

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“We kind of took control of our destiny and said this can’t go on any longer,” Mr. Lieber said.

Untangling the knot of Penn Station’s shortcomings is a challenge that has long stymied New York’s most powerful elected officials.

In 2005, Gov. Eliot Spitzer came as close as any governor ever has to clearing the way for a more majestic rebuild of Penn Station when Mr. Dolan agreed, in general terms, to the relocation of the Garden across Eighth Avenue.

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But the plan met opposition from preservationists. Mr. Dolan wanted to back out, but Mr. Spitzer, who called himself a “bulldozer,” plowed ahead. In March 2008, the two men had a tense meeting that Mr. Dolan later recounted to a New York Times reporter. “He was tough,” Mr. Dolan said of the governor.

A week later, Mr. Spitzer was caught up in a prostitution scandal and resigned. By the end of the month, Mr. Dolan’s company announced that the Garden was “not moving,” effectively killing any hopes for Mr. Spitzer’s plan.

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Several years passed before another brash Democratic governor, Andrew M. Cuomo, took on the challenge of fixing Penn Station — without trying to move the Garden.

In 2016, Mr. Cuomo unveiled a $3 billion plan to “dramatically renovate” Penn Station, starting with a long-stalled idea to convert the neighboring Farley Building, which had been the General Post Office, into a train hall that would serve as an annex for Penn.

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Moynihan Train Hall, shown under construction in 2017, occupies a former post office building on Eighth Avenue.

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That idea, first broached by Senator Moynihan, had “languished because of a lack of financing, political inertia, squabbles with transportation agencies and the developers’ ambitions,” The Times reported in early 2009.

Mr. Cuomo’s plan centered on a partnership between the state and two of the country’s biggest developers, Related Companies and Vornado.

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The governor became intensely involved, even threatening at one point to replace the private partners because they were not moving fast enough. He drove that project over the finish line at the end of 2020, more than 25 years after it was first proposed.

“Moynihan is a really good Phase One; it’s the appetizer,” said Vishaan Chakrabarti, a New York architect who has been calling for a radical overhaul of Penn Station since 2016. “But the main station in the subbasement of the Garden is the entree.”

Transportation experts give credit to Mr. Cuomo, who resigned as governor in 2021 amid sexual harassment allegations and ran unsuccessfully for mayor this year, for applying his famously abrasive personality to get Moynihan Train Hall finished.

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But they also note that the project was much less costly and less complicated than renovating Penn Station. New Jersey had little say in the design of Moynihan, and the fact that many NJ Transit trains are accessible from its glass-roofed hall goes virtually unmentioned inside the building.

As soon as Kathy Hochul succeeded Mr. Cuomo, she made improving Penn Station a priority. Within months of taking office, she stood at a lectern in the station and promised it would be transformed from a “hellhole” into a world-class transit hub.

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Some proposals have suggested reorganizing the region’s rail system to have trains continue past Penn, a practice known as through-running.

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The M.T.A., which the governor controls, would take the lead on managing a rebuilding plan with an estimated cost of close to $7 billion, she said. Amtrak and NJ Transit accepted supporting roles in the planning.

“It’s going to right the wrongs of the past,” Ms. Hochul said. “It’s going to jump-start something that should have been done a long time ago.”

Ms. Hochul indicated that the state was open to suggestions for how Penn should be improved, and proposals began to roll in. A private developer, ASTM North America, teamed up with Mr. Chakrabarti’s studio, PAU, to propose a design that would require the acquisition and removal of a theater attached to the Garden along Eighth Avenue. Amtrak officials supported the concept, but Mr. Lieber rejected the idea of paying a large sum to Mr. Dolan’s company.

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Other architects put forward different ways of renovating the station. Some revived the idea of building a new home for the Garden nearby. Others centered on reorganizing the region’s rail service so that Penn would not have to be expanded at all.

All of them awaited word from New York officials about how and when the project would get rolling.

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Can Trump Make It Happen?

After Donald J. Trump was elected president again last November, Ms. Hochul asked him to have the federal government cover most of the cost of a new station, she said. She even floated the idea that it could be renamed after him.

Rather than bankrolling New York’s plan, the Trump administration announced this spring that it had lost faith in the state’s ability to manage the project and reassigned it to Amtrak. Sean P. Duffy, the transportation secretary, appointed Mr. Byford, who earned the nickname “Train Daddy” when he oversaw the city’s subway system from 2018 to early 2020, to take charge of the “transformation” of Penn Station.

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Some advocates of the renovation said they worried that Mr. Trump’s involvement would set the project back to square one. But others said that having decision-making power concentrated in a president who sees himself as a builder might be the best recipe for a better Penn.

“He just took over Penn Station,” Mr. Cuomo said in a recent interview. “The M.T.A. was working on it for years and had a whole plan.” The former governor added that he expected that Penn was “going to wind up being Trump Station, in the heart of Manhattan.”

Ms. Hochul responded to the federal intercession by withdrawing New York’s financial commitment.

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Sean P. Duffy, left, the transportation secretary, appointed Andy Byford to oversee the rebuilding of Penn Station.

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In a recent interview, Ms. Hochul said she was not abandoning the project. “I’m just happy that I don’t have to put money in it,” she said.

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Recounting a conversation with Mr. Trump, she said she had pointed out that Amtrak owned the station. “Why should we have to pay for a building that’s owned by this other entity?” Ms. Hochul said she had asked Mr. Trump.

Still, she told the president: “We have the possibility of getting this underway before you leave office. Let’s make that our goal,” she recalled. “He agreed.”

Now the future of Penn Station rests with Mr. Byford, who said he had been told to get construction started before the end of 2027. He laid out an accelerated schedule that included a solicitation of bids from private companies that want to serve as the project’s master developer. Amtrak will make a decision by May 2026, he said.

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Mr. Byford said the bidding would be “an open and fair competition with no preconceived notions of the outcome, but it will be conducted to a very aggressive timeline.”

He said Amtrak’s longstanding plan to expand the station by taking over all or part of a neighboring block of Midtown was “on hold” to focus attention on the makeover. In the meantime, he said, federal transportation officials will study whether having commuter trains pass through Penn and continue on to stations outside the city instead of turning around — a practice known as through-running — could accommodate projected growth in rail traffic in the region.

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Transit advocates have long bemoaned the political morass that has slowed down efforts to fix Penn.

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Ms. Ellsworth, a proponent of running the L.I.R.R. and NJ Transit trains through the city and into each other’s territory, said she had been calling for the federal government to put an end to the infighting and red tape that had thwarted all hopes for an improved station.

“We need a parent to come in here and knock heads between the various entities,” she said.

Mr. Dunkelman of Brown University was skeptical that “you’re somehow going to bring in a czar who can wrangle all the separate interests.”

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“Maybe the Train Daddy will figure it out and get it done, but the fundamental issue here is not one of personality or incompetence,” he said. “It’s a political octopus built to fail.”

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