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For Some G.O.P. Voters, Fatigue Slows the Rush to Defend Trump

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For Some G.O.P. Voters, Fatigue Slows the Rush to Defend Trump

Republican officers nearly unanimously rallied round Donald J. Trump after his indictment, however the precise G.O.P. voters who will render a verdict on his political future subsequent 12 months weren’t practically as solidly behind him.

Some earlier Trump voters stated the indictment, the primary ever of a former president, was the newest shattering of norms in a ledger already full of chaos from the Trump years, and it was time for his or her social gathering to maneuver on in searching for a 2024 nominee.

In Hawthorne, N.Y., Scott Grey, a land surveyor who voted for Mr. Trump in two elections, stated he had wearied of him.

“I believe he did a whole lot of issues proper,” Mr. Grey stated, then instantly darted within the different route: “I believe he’s utterly unpresidential. I can’t consider he’s nonetheless working for workplace.”

As a substitute, Mr. Grey stated he was thinking about “that man down in Florida who’s governor — DeSantis.” (Ron DeSantis, who is anticipated to run however has not but introduced a marketing campaign, is Mr. Trump’s closest rival for the G.O.P. nomination in latest polling of major voters.)

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In conversations with Republican-leaning voters across the nation, Mr. Trump’s indictment introduced out a lot anger, occasional embarrassment and a swirl of contradictory reactions, not not like each different twist within the yearslong excessive drama of Donald Trump.

As anticipated, many rallied across the former president, calling the indictment by a Democratic prosecutor in New York a sham — a provocation they stated would solely cement their allegiance to Mr. Trump, who for years has inspired supporters to see assaults on him as additionally assaults on them.

However for some the frenzy to defend was weighed down by scandal fatigue and a way that Mr. Trump’s time has handed.

Exterior Wild Cherry Nail and Hair Studio in Port Richey, Fla., on Friday, Ilyse Internicola and Meghan Seltman, each Trump supporters, mentioned the indictment throughout a smoke break.

“How far are they going to go?” Ms. Internicola, a hair stylist within the salon, demanded.

Ms. Seltman, a manicurist, stated she would “all the time keep loyal” to Mr. Trump. “However for the presidency, I’d wish to see DeSantis have his probability,” she stated. “He’s carried out properly with Florida, and I’d wish to see what he does with the nation. Get it again to the way it was once.”

Mr. Trump was charged by a grand jury on Thursday with greater than two dozen counts, with an arraignment anticipated on Tuesday, when particular fees can be unsealed.

Polling has proven a marked shift towards Mr. Trump amongst Republicans in latest months, primarily at Mr. DeSantis’s expense, which can partly mirror the extremely anticipated indictment, on fees stemming from a $130,000 cost to a porn star on the eve of the 2016 election. Almost two weeks in the past, Mr. Trump incorrectly predicted the day of his arrest and referred to as for protests, searching for to energise supporters. His provocations have included posting an image of himself wielding a baseball bat beside an image of the Manhattan district legal professional, Alvin L. Bragg.

William Stelling, an actual property agent in Jacksonville, Fla., as soon as saved his choices open concerning the 2024 Republican major. However the indictment goaded him to face up for the previous president.

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“I’m dusting off my Trump flags and hanging them proudly,” Mr. Stelling stated. “This proves to me that he’s the correct candidate. As a result of they’re throwing the kitchen sink at him on a trumped-up cost that everyone knows is principally a misdemeanor at greatest.”

Debbie Dooley, a staunch Trump loyalist who helped discovered the Atlanta Tea Social gathering, went as far as to arrange an indication for Mr. Trump throughout a DeSantis go to to suburban Atlanta on Thursday. She stated the indictment bolstered her religion that he would win the presidency in his third marketing campaign.

“I’m going to go forward and make reservations for a resort in D.C. for the inauguration as a result of Trump goes to be the subsequent president of the USA,” she stated. “The prosecutor’s not doing something however serving to him.”

And Allan Terry, a Trump supporter in Charleston, S.C., who has Trump flags flying in his back and front yard, plans so as to add a brand new one to his truck, he stated.

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“If he messed round, so what?” Mr. Terry stated of the cost to the previous porn star, Stormy Daniels, which prosecutors say underlies violations of marketing campaign finance and enterprise data legal guidelines. “It’s immoral. It’s incorrect. He shouldn’t have carried out it. If he did, so what does that should do along with his presidency?”

However not all earlier Trump backers share such loyalty. In a Quinnipiac College ballot launched this week earlier than the indictment, one in 4 Republicans and one in three independents stated legal fees ought to disqualify Mr. Trump as a presidential candidate.

A Fox Information ballot of the potential Republican discipline this week confirmed Mr. Trump with 54 % of assist from major voters, adopted by Mr. DeSantis at 24 % and others, together with former Vice President Mike Pence and Nikki Haley, the previous U.S. ambassador and South Carolina governor, in single digits.

In Iowa, which is able to maintain the primary Republican nominating contest early subsequent 12 months, Gypsy Russ, who lives in Iowa Metropolis, stated she as soon as supported Mr. Trump however doubted he might win the social gathering’s embrace but once more.

“There’s not sufficient Republicans supporting him,” she stated.

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Ms. Russ stated Mr. Trump had proven time and again that he’s not presidential. “He’s simply very impolite,” she stated. “And he doesn’t discuss like a president is meant to.” Though he has many followers, together with her dad and mom, she added, “He didn’t acquire any extra followers due to the way in which he carries himself.”

Jim Alden, a Republican businessman from Franconia, N.H., who is not any specific fan of Mr. Trump’s, nonetheless predicted that the indictment would strengthen his assist as a result of Republicans discover the conduct underlying the costs to be inconsequential, and so they consider politics had been driving Mr. Bragg, the Manhattan district legal professional, in his inquiry.

“Sadly, it should embolden Trump’s core supporters as a result of he has cultivated this persecution complicated, and being indicted on what could also be a questionably sturdy case is barely going to strengthen the persecution complicated,” stated Mr. Alden.

A kind of core supporters was Keith Marcus, who owns a wholesale magnificence provide enterprise in New York Metropolis.

“I’m shocked and I’m upset,” he stated. The indictment “is setting a very dangerous precedent for the long run,” he added. “It’s only a witch hunt. The D.A. is a joke — a complete joke.”

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However the indictment additionally appeared to have shaken a minimum of some Trump voters’ willingness to again him in a bid for an additional 4 years within the White Home.

In Hawthorne, N.Y., a crimson island of Republican voters within the in any other case liberal northern suburbs of New York, Palmy Vocaturo stated he twice voted for Mr. Trump, however his confidence in him has eroded in mild of the legal investigations, not simply in Manhattan however in instances pursued by a Georgia prosecutor and a particular counsel for the Justice Division.

“I’m getting blended emotions,” stated Mr. Vocaturo, a retired development employee. “If he’s as dangerous as I believe he’s, go forward and do one thing,” he stated of the indictment.

Jon Hurdle, Elisabeth Parker and Haley Johnson contributed reporting.

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AOC demands Senate Democrats investigate reports of Jan. 6 flags flown at Supreme Court Justice Alito's home

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., demanded the Democrat-controlled Senate investigate reports that a flag associated with the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol was flown at Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s home. 

In an interview on MSNBC’s “All in with Chris Hayes” on Wednesday, Ocasio-Cortez described the reports as “an extraordinary breach of not just the trust and the stature of the Supreme Court, but we are seeing a fundamental challenge to our democracy.” She said that Congress did not have to wait to take action against Alito until Democrats had a majority in the House. 

“Samuel Alito has identified himself with the same people who raided the Capitol on Jan. 6, and is now going to be presiding over court cases that have deep implications over the participants of that rally,” the progressive “Squad” member said. “And while this is the threat to our democracy, Democrats have a responsibility for defending our democracy. And in the Senate, we have gavels.”

“There should be subpoenas going out. There should be active investigations that are happening,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “And I believe that when House Democrats take the majority, we are preparing and ensuring to support the broader effort to stand up our democracy. But I also believe that when Democrats have power, we have to use it. We cannot be in perpetual campaign mode. We need to be in governance mode, we need to be in accountability mode with every lever that we have. Because we cannot take a Senate majority for granted, a House majority for granted or a White House for granted.” 

The New York Times reported on Wednesday that a second flag of a type carried by rioters during the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was displayed outside a house owned by Alito. 

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., called for Senate Democrats to investigate flags flown outside a home owned by Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito.  (Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images)

An “Appeal to Heaven” flag was flown outside Alito’s beach vacation home last summer. An inverted American flag — another symbol carried by rioters — was seen at Alito’s home outside Washington less than two weeks after the riot at the Capitol. 

News of the upside-down American flag sparked an uproar last week, including calls from high-ranking Democrats for Alito to recuse himself from cases related to former President Trump.

Alito and the court have not commented on the “Appeal to Heaven” flag. Alito previously said the inverted American flag was flown by his wife amid a dispute with neighbors, and he had no part in it.

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The white flag with a green pine tree was seen flying at the Alito beach home in New Jersey, according to three photographs obtained by the Times. The images were taken on different dates in July and September 2023, though it was not clear how long it was flying overall or how much time Alito spent there.

Alito and his wife at Billy Graham funeral

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito Jr., left, and his wife Martha-Ann Alito, pay their respects at the casket of Reverend Billy Graham at the Rotunda of the U.S. Capitol Building in Washington, Feb. 28, 2018.  (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais, File)

The flag dates back to the Revolutionary War, but in more recent years it has become associated with conservatives, Christian nationalism and support for Trump, according to the Times.

It was carried by some rioters fueled by Trump’s “Stop the Steal” movement. 

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Republicans in Congress and state officials have also displayed the flag. House Speaker Mike Johnson, hung it at his office last fall shortly after winning the gavel. A spokesman said the speaker appreciates its rich history and was given the flag by a pastor who served as a guest chaplain for the House, according to the Associated Press. 

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An Appeal to Heaven flag among Trump supporters

Crowds arrive for the “Stop the Steal” rally on January 6, 2021, in Washington, DC. An “Appeal to Heaven” flag is seen being flown by a supporter. (Spencer Platt/Getty Images)

Alito is taking part in two pending Supreme Court cases associated with Jan. 6: whether Trump has immunity from prosecution for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results and whether a certain obstruction charge can be used against rioters. He also participated in the court’s unanimous ruling that states cannot bar Trump from the ballot using the “insurrection clause” that was added to the Constitution after the Civil War.

There has been no indication that Alito would step aside from the cases. 

Another conservative on the Supreme Court, Justice Clarence Thomas, also has ignored calls to recuse himself from cases related to the 2020 election because of his wife Virginia Thomas’ support for efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.

Judicial ethics codes focus on the need for judges to be independent, avoiding political statements or opinions on matters they could be called on to decide. The Supreme Court had long gone without its own code of ethics, but it adopted one in November 2023 in the face of sustained criticism over undisclosed trips and gifts from wealthy benefactors to some justices. The code, however, lacks a means of enforcement.

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The Associated Press contributed to this report. 

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Litman: Trump's hush money trial is about to go to the jury. What's the most likely verdict?

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After 20 days, 22 witnesses and intermittent courtroom fireworks, the evidence in Donald Trump’s New York hush money trial is all in. The case will soon be in the hands of the jury.

Who holds the advantage at this critical juncture? My assessment, after attending much of the trial in person, is that it’s the prosecution’s case to lose.

With the standing caveat that it takes only one juror to block a unanimous guilty verdict — and that the law puts the greatest burden on prosecutors — the case as it has come in puts the district attorney’s office in the driver’s seat going into next week’s closing arguments.

The prosecution’s essential achievement was to provide a compelling, credible narrative that points toward only one plausible conclusion: that Trump is guilty as charged.

The defense, by contrast, took a scattershot approach focused on undermining the credibility of any and all of the prosecution’s witnesses, particularly Michael Cohen, Trump’s former attorney and fixer. But what Trump’s lawyers didn’t do is provide a counternarrative, a story compelling enough to leave jurors with a reasonable doubt as to which explanation of the facts is true.

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Providing such a competing story isn’t the defense’s legal obligation, of course. The judge will instruct the jurors that if they have any reasonable doubt about the prosecution’s case, they should vote to acquit.

But my experience as a trial lawyer suggests a difference between freestanding doubt about one or more witnesses and a broader doubt about the rationale behind the charges — an alternative plotline that jurors might find believable. That’s the kind of defense being presented on behalf of Sen. Robert Menendez, for example, who is arguing that his wife is the guilty party.

From the first day of testimony, the prosecution has presented a tight, persuasive tale. It begins with an August 2015 meeting involving Trump, Cohen and tabloid executive David Pecker — who explained it to the jury from the stand — in which the parties agreed on a scheme to smother negative stories about Trump.

And sure enough, before the next year’s election, a series of scandal-mongers required neutralizing to insulate Trump from political damage. These episodes are akin to Acts II and III of the script, falling into place along the tracks that the Pecker testimony laid.

Hope Hicks’ testimony was brief but powerful given her longtime loyal service to Trump and her obvious candor notwithstanding her reluctance to harm her former boss, which seemed to cause her to break into tears. She confirmed in dramatic terms that Cohen and Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s then-chief financial officer, would not have cooked up the scheme to pay off the adult-film actor Stormy Daniels without Trump’s say-so.

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The prosecution effectively corroborated in advance most of what would come from its last and most important witness, Cohen. At the same time, the prosecutors encouraged their own witnesses to disparage Cohen, lowering expectations before he took the stand.

When he did, Cohen was low-key, responsive and agreeable. With a few exceptions, he accepted the insults the defense served up, accounting for most of the discrepancies in his story by explaining that he had been telling the truth since he left the Trump fold.

A couple of low points in Cohen’s testimony got a lot of attention, and it’s natural for the media to zero in on dramatic moments. But the jury is more likely to evaluate the evidence in the context of the whole narrative and a witness’ general comportment.

Most important, jurors, like all of us, make overall judgments about credibility, which is the heart and soul of the jury system. Taking the measure of the people before them, they decide whether their accounts are basically trustworthy, notwithstanding the defects of the messengers. And all the stories in this case — not just Cohen’s but those of other flawed witnesses such as Pecker and Daniels — cohere and ring true.

It follows that the impertinence of Robert Costello, a defense witness who muttered in disagreement with Judge Juan M. Merchan’s rulings, probably caught the jury’s attention more than the flaws in Cohen’s largely even presentation — especially once Merchan forcefully rebuked Costello’s buffoonish grandstanding.

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The prosecution’s cross-examination of Costello and redirect of both Cohen and Daniels were crisp, clear, textbook demolitions of the defense’s points. Trump’s team was more meandering and given to stray potshots, missing more than they hit.

I think the defense still has one largely overlooked escape hatch: the arcane legal instructions for deciding the felony charges. The charges require the prosecution to prove that Trump caused the alleged falsification of documents to further another crime. Prosecutors have offered up three different candidates for that other crime, each of which has flaws. I could see the jury, which includes two lawyers, considering the legal instructions very carefully and finding that the district attorney came up short. And in any event, the issue is sure to figure in an appeal.

But any appeal feels a millennium away. By the time that transpires, Trump will either be president, giving him extensive options for evading accountability, or a losing candidate facing three other criminal trials. This trial looks increasingly likely to be the only opportunity for a jury to decide for the first time whether a former president is a criminal. Going into the final act, I like the chances that he will be found guilty.

Harry Litman is the host of the “Talking Feds” podcast and the Talking San Diego speaker series. @harrylitman

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Haley Says She Will Vote for Trump in the November Election

In her first public appearance since dropping her Republican presidential bid, Nikki Haley, the former Governor of South Carolina, said she would vote for former President Donald J. Trump.

As a voter, I put my priorities on a president who’s going to have the backs of our allies and hold our enemies to account. Who would secure the border. No more excuses. A president who would support capitalism and freedom. A president who understands we need less debt, not more debt. Trump has not been perfect on these policies. I have made that clear many, many times. But Biden has been a catastrophe. So I will be voting for Trump. Having said that, I stand by what I said in my suspension speech. Trump would be smart to reach out to the millions of people who voted for me and continue to support me. And not assume that they’re just going to be with him. And I genuinely hope he does that.

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