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Close encounters of congressional kind: Lawmakers struggle to grasp alleged 'interdimensional' nature of UFOs

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What happened on the grassy knoll at Dealey Plaza in Dallas?

Does a mysterious, serpentine beast glide through the icy waters of Loch Ness? 

Is there life on other planets?

Perhaps it’s only natural Congress is now probing whether the government is covering up possible evidence of UFOs.

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UFOs fly in the sky in this digitally generated image. A cohort of lawmakers suspects there is mounting information government agencies and the military aren’t playing straight with Capitol Hill about UFOs. (iStock)

The timing for this type of congressional inquest into this mystery is only right. Suspicions abound about the origins of the pandemic and conspiracies about the safety of vaccines. Couple that with skepticism about “the media,” the veracity of election returns and the government in general.

It’s not a stretch for people — and now lawmakers — to seek more answers about unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs), or UFOs.

Are we alone in the universe?

If not, some in Congress believe they’ve been left in the dark.

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A cohort of lawmakers suspects there is mounting information government agencies and the military aren’t playing straight with Capitol Hill. And if the truth is out there, they’re not getting it. That’s why there’s been an uptick of bipartisan hearings, briefings and legislation on UAPs over the past few years. 

Even Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., tried to wedge more transparency about UFO files into the annual defense policy bill late last year. But Schumer’s effort fell short.

Whatever people are seeing could be something from the great beyond. But there appears to be discomfort with federal officials divulging to lawmakers what they know. Hence, the disappointment from Schumer. And, frankly, there may be evidence that different “silos” of the federal government might not know exactly what other feds have.

Former Navy pilot Ryan Graves, ex-Navy commander David Fravor and former U.S. intelligence officer David Grusch testified before the House of Representatives subcommittee focused on UFOs.  (House subcommittee on National Security, the Border and Foreign Affairs)

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Granted, some things spotted in the skies might be special proprietary advanced technology different agencies or the intelligence community guard with the utmost confidentiality. And some of the stuff out there might just be unexplained.

No wonder this fuels conspiracy theories.

Such was the case when intelligence community Inspector General Thomas Monheim appeared for a closed-door, classified briefing for members of the House Oversight Committee late last week.

Some responses were predictable.

“Stonewalled once again,” complained Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn.

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“I just wasted time,” said Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi, D-Ill. “I’m more concerned than I was going in.”

“There’s a concerted effort to conceal as much information as possible,” alleged Rep. Andy Ogles, R-Tenn.

Lawmakers contend they aren’t hearing from people who really know what’s out there.

“They send us bureaucrats who don’t know on purpose,” said Rep. Glenn Grothman, R-Wis.

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But it might not be as sinister as some suspect.

U.S. Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray explains a video of an unidentified aerial phenomenon as he testifies before a House Intelligence Committee hearing at the U.S. Capitol May 17, 2022, in Washington, D.C. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

“This meeting, unlike the one we had previously … actually moved the needle,” said Rep. Jared Moskowitz, D-Fla. “This is the first time we kind of got a ruling on what the IG (inspector general) thinks of those claims.”

The “claims” Moskowitz speaks of stem from allegations former military intelligence officer and UAP whistleblower David Grusch made at an open House hearing last summer. Grusch contends the military has possession of a spacecraft from someplace else.

As well as something else.

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“Do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials?” Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., asked at that hearing last July.

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“That’s something I can’t discuss in a public setting,” Grusch replied.

However, Grusch implied the U.S. may have some sort of life form that isn’t understood.

He termed them “biologics” at the summer hearing.

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“Human or non-human biologics?” Mace asked.

“Non-human,” Grusch answered without hesitation.

Lawmakers demand transparency. But due to the sensitivity of the material, even they aren’t quite ready yet to publicly share what they’re learning.

“This is the first real briefing that we’ve had that we’ve now made — I would say — progress on some of the claims Mr. Grusch has made,” said Moskowitz.

As upset as he was in the briefing, Burchett signaled the same.

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Former Navy pilot Ryan Graves spoke out about UFOs during a July hearing.  (Getty Images / Fox News Digital)

“We got some pretty definitive stuff,” said Burchett. “It just verified what I thought.”

But it’s unclear what “definitive stuff” lawmakers heard about, let alone what was verified.

And we don’t know what Burchett “thought.”

Lawmakers are trying to dissect Grusch’s allegations.

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Let’s step back for just a moment.

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As a longtime congressional observer, I have learned to pay attention to precisely what Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., says. Decades of reporting on McConnell taught me that you’ll know exactly what McConnell is planning to do or pondering if you filet his words with the perfection of a Ginsu knife.

Language and framing is paramount in politics.

The same is true in intelligence circles.

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And, apparently, it’s true when it comes to explaining the unexplained. Like UFOs.

So let’s focus on the language.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla., questioned Grusch about why he referred to potential “beings” as “non-human intelligence” and not “extraterrestrials.”

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna called for greater transparency into UFOs, also called UAPs, and declared the IC is engaged in an effort to cover up information about the mysterious objects. (DoD | Getty Images)

At the 2023 hearing, Grusch suggested that what the government purportedly has is “very complex.”

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After the House briefing last week, Luna noted that Grusch previously referred to such entities as “interdimensional.”

Yours truly asked Luna what “interdimensional” means when it comes to UAPs.

“Is this something that bends time and space,” this reporter asked Luna.

The Florida Republican didn’t respond directly.

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“He said interdimensional. He refused to use certain terms,” said Luna.

But back to our political message box analysis.

“I think it’s incredibly important to listen to the specific words that Grusch uses,” said Luna. “He never said extraterrestrial or alien.”

Could it be that “extraterrestrial” or “alien” mean specific things in the intelligence or military communities when trying to atomize what the government knows about UAPs?

Remains of an alleged “non-human” on display during a briefing on UFOs at the San Lazaro legislative palace in Mexico City, Mexico, Sept. 12, 2023. (Reuters/Henry Romero)

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The term “interdimensional” pertains to the theory there are multiple dimensions of space and time, coexisting at once. One longstanding theory about UFOs is that what we may see on Earth isn’t even something from another planet or from far across the galaxy. Could it be something which broke across the plane of the dimension where we reside from its location in another dimension?

And you thought covering appropriations bills and the debt ceiling was mind bending.

These aren’t the things that are discussed regularly in Congress.

After the briefing, another reporter asked Raja Krishnamoorthi about Grusch’s claims of biologics.

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“I can’t get into the specifics,” the Illinois Democrat replied. “I didn’t get the answers that I was hoping for.”

Fox asked Luna if maybe what they’re dealing with is so thorny and beyond the norm that conventional science and physics could struggle to grasp this.

A Fox News Digital-created UFO hot spot map based on information from the Department of Defense. (Julia Bonavita/Fox News Digital based on AARO’s Data)

“I think we can understand it,” Luna said, without hinting at what lawmakers are trying to understand.

We’ve used this quotation before when writing about UFOs. But it bears repeating. In Shakespeare, Hamlet tells Horatio that “there are more things in heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”

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In other words, there’s a panoply of possibilities people haven’t even fathomed yet.

The truth may be out there. But could it be impregnable for mere mortals?

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Emanuel pushes back on ‘straight White man’ question, says ideas matter most in 2028

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MANCHESTER, N.H. — Rahm Emanuel is shrugging off the Democratic Party’s identity debate and emphasizing that the showdown for the Democrats’ 2028 presidential nomination should be about ideas and not gender.

The former Chicago mayor and White House chief of staff to President Barack Obama is mulling a White House run of his own in 2028 in the race to succeed term-limited Republican President Donald Trump. But in a party that has made diversity one of its core tenets, Emanuel will have to face the question: will the Democratic Party elect a straight White male to represent it?

Emanuel told Fox News Digital on Monday that Democrats should be asking potential presidential contenders different questions entirely, such as: “Do you have the ideas of how to make sure the American Dream is alive and well, accessible and affordable to another generation?”

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Former First Lady Michelle Obama lamented in a podcast late last year that the U.S. is not ready for a female president. (Tasos Katopodis/Getty)

In the wake of former Vice President Kamala Harris’ defeat to Trump in the 2024 election, former First Lady Michelle Obama made headlines late last year when she emphasized in a conversation posted on YouTube that the U.S. has “a lot of growing up to do” and that the nation is “not ready for a woman” as president.

And former President Joe Biden, in an interview last year on “The View,” argued that Harris lost to Trump because of sexism and racism.

Harris was the second female Democratic presidential nominee to come up short to Trump, following Hillary Clinton’s defeat in the 2016 election.

That’s got some in the Democratic Party suggesting that in order to recapture the White House in 2028, it might be better for the party to nominate a White male as their standard-bearer.

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While Democrats take pride in their party’s diversity, an Axios article this past weekend, headlined “Some Dems’ 2028 strategy: a straight, White, Christian man,” included quotes from party operatives and strategists suggesting that parts of the American electorate are too biased to back a female or other diverse presidential candidate.

Emanuel disagrees.

“More important is the voters’ take. They’ll make a decision. And so to me, that’s the wrong thing. The question is, do you have the ideas that address the challenges that are facing America, regardless of who’s speaking it,” he said.

Former U.S. ambassador Rahm Emanuel, a former Chicago mayor who previous served as White House chief of staff in then-President Barack Obama’s administration and a former U.S. House member, speaks at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics, on March 30, 2026, in Manchester, N.H.  (Paul Steinhauser/Fox News )

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Emanuel spoke with Fox News and other news organizations after headlining “Politics and Eggs,” a speaking series at Saint Anselm College’s New Hampshire Institute of Politics that’s a must stop for White House hopefuls visiting the which for a century has held the first presidential primary in the White House race. And hours earlier, on Sunday evening, he was the main attraction at the latest “Stand Up New Hampshire” town hall hosted by top Democratic activists.

Emanuel has been crisscrossing the country in recent months, as he considers a presidential bid, including stops in two other crucial early primary states, Nevada and South Carolina, where he heads later this week.

He said he’ll become a presidential candidate “if I think I have what it takes to answer what I think is ailing the greatest country.”

Emanuel, who hails from the more moderate center-left wing of the party, emphasized that in order to win in 2028, Democrats need to “centralize and ground ourselves in middle class values, tough enforcement at the border, put more police on the beat, and get kids, guns and gangs off the street, and invest in education opportunities.”

“Get to the core of what they expect from us and don’t get caught up in some cultural cul-de-sac that leads nowhere,” he added.

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Potential 2028 Democratic presidential contender Rahm Emanuel greets audience members at ‘Politics and Eggs,’ a speaking series at Saint Anselm College’s New Hampshire Institute of Politics, on March 30, 2026, in Manchester. N.H. (Paul Steinhauser/Fox News)

As Democrats look for a fighter in 2028 to win back the White House, Emanuel is showing off his scrappy side.

“These are tough times that require a tough leader that knows how to do tough things and get them done on behalf of the American people. That’s the measure,” he told Fox News Digital.

And Emanuel also repeatedly took aim at Trump and his administration for their handling of the president’s efforts to acquire Greenland and the month-long strikes against Iran.

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“It’s a war of choice, and it’s a bad choice,” Emanuel said of Trump. “He could have gotten everything he wanted without going to war.”

And taking another shot, he said, “If they ever run a sequel to ‘Dumb and Dumber,’ I have recommendations for the lead roles, and there’s lots of competition in this administration.”

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Trump says ‘serious’ talks are occurring, threatens strikes on Iran energy, water sites

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President Trump threatened Monday to destroy vital Iranian energy and water infrastructure if a peace deal is not reached, as Tehran continued to deny negotiations were taking place and said it was preparing for a ground invasion following the arrival of thousands of American troops in the region.

If a ceasefire agreement is not reached quickly, the president said in a social media post, “We will conclude our lovely ‘stay’ in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their Electric Generating Plants, Oil Wells and Kharg Island (and possibly all desalinization plants!).”

The threats came within hours of the president insisting on Sunday night that diplomatic efforts would “probably” lead to a deal soon, and that Iran had allowed 20 more oil cargo ships to pass through the Strait of Hormuz as a “sign of respect.”

Trump said the United States is in “serious discussions with A NEW, AND MORE REASONABLE, REGIME in Iran” but offered no details.

Iran, however, continued to throw cold water on the negotiations Monday when Esmail Baghaei, the foreign ministry spokesperson, dismissed the Trump administration’s terms as “unrealistic, unreasonable and excessive.”

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“I do not know how many people in the United States take American diplomacy claims seriously. Our mission is clear, unlike the other side, which constantly changes its position,” he said in comments carried by the semi-official Iranian agency Tasnim News.

Baghaei said that there have been no direct negotiations, but only messages through intermediaries stating that the U.S. wants to confer.

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said at a news briefing on Monday that the “American people are smart enough” to not take Iranian officials “at their word” when they say there are no negotiations happening with the United States.

Leavitt said the Trump administration is negotiating with Iranian leaders who are “appearing more reasonable behind the scenes” than the regime’s previous leaders, who were killed by strikes launched by the United States and Israel.

“This is another historic opportunity for Iran to do the right thing to rid themselves of their nuclear ambitions and to come to a deal with this president,” she said. “Or, again, they will see the grave consequences of the United States armed forces.”

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Leavitt added that Trump is “not afraid” to use the full force of the U.S. military to ensure victory in the Middle East. She said this after being asked why the president was threatening to intentionally target civilian infrastructure that could impact water and energy supplies, a move that could amount to a war crime under international law.

“Of course this administration and the United States armed forces will always act within the confines of the law, but with respect to achieving the full objective of Operation Epic Fury, President Trump is going to move forward unabated,” she said.

As the war continues and Arab countries are roped into the conflict, Leavitt told reporters, the president is open to having those countries help pay for the costs associated with the Iran war.

“I won’t get ahead of him on that,” she said. “But certainly it’s an idea that I know that he has and something that I think you’ll hear from him on.”

On Saturday, the USS Tripoli, a naval warship, arrived in the Middle East carrying about 3,500 sailors and Marines and a transport of fighter planes. Earlier this month, the San Diego-based USS Boxer and two warships from the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit departed from Camp Pendleton to join the buildup of troops in the region.

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The deployments have made Iranian diplomatic envoys even more dubious that American peace efforts are sincere.

“The enemy publicly sends messages of negotiation and dialogue while secretly planning a ground offensive. [They] are nothing more than a cover to hide preparations for a land invasion,” Iran’s top lawmaker, Mohammad Bagher Qalibaf, said in a statement Sunday.

He added that Iranian forces were waiting for the arrival of American troops on the ground to “set them on fire” and “punish their regional partners forever,” according to state media.

As officials in both Washington and Tehran strike increasingly hard lines, neighboring countries are desperate for a truce.

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Sisi pleaded with Trump to stop the war during a speech at an Egyptian energy conference on Monday.

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“I tell President Trump: Nobody can stop the war in our region in the gulf but you,” Sisi said.

“Please, Mr. President, please. Please help us stop the war. You are capable of doing so.”

Egypt, though not directly involved in the war, has contended with its repercussions on energy, fertilizer and food prices, not to mention disruptions to shipping income Cairo receives through the Suez Canal.

“Wealthy countries might be able to absorb this, but for middle-income and fragile economies, it could have a very, very severe impact on their stability,” ‌Sisi said, noting that predictions of oil reaching $200 per barrel were “not an exaggeration.”

Egypt and Israel signed a peace treaty in 1979, which saw Israel return territory it seized during the 1967 war. Though the agreement is deeply unpopular with most Egyptians, it has held despite escalating tensions during Israel’s campaign against Hamas.

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In December, the two nations formally announced a $35-billion agreement expanding Israel gas exports to Egypt. But the war with Iran has disrupted supplies, tripling the cost of imports, according to Egyptian officials.

Last week, the government ordered energy-saving measures for a one-month period, including early closing times for most commercial establishments as well as reductions in street lighting and allocations for government vehicles.

Jordan, another U.S. regional ally that is also energy-starved, took similar steps, enacting bans on air conditioning in government offices and private use of government vehicles.

Despite talks of negotiations, the fighting showed little sign of abating.

Trump’s call for peace followed a fresh round of U.S. and Israeli airstrikes on Iran Monday. Tehran retaliated by hitting a major water and power facility in Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates said they intercepted incoming Iranian missiles.

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Two U.N. peacekeepers were killed on Monday when an “explosion of unknown origin” hit their vehicle near the village of Bani Hayyan, in south Lebanon.

The deaths mark the second fatal incident in two days involving the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon, known as UNIFIL, a peacekeeping force established in 1978 and which later monitored cessation of hostilities between the two nations.

UNIFIL also reported a peacekeeper was killed Sunday night when a projectile exploded in a UNIFIL position.

“We do not know the origin of the projectile. We have launched an investigation to determine all of the circumstances,” a UNIFIL statement on Monday said.

Meanwhile, Israel continued its bombardment of Lebanon, hitting areas near the capital and in the country’s south. One strike targeted a Lebanese army checkpoint, killing a soldier, the Lebanese military said. Lebanese authorities said on Monday that the death toll since hostilities broke out between Hezbollah and Israel earlier this month continues to rise.

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The Israeli military said one of its soldiers was killed in a Hezbollah anti-tank missile attack in southern Lebanon, which also wounded four other soldiers. Six soldiers have been killed since Israel restarted its campaign in Lebanon.

Hezbollah rockets also killed two civilians, according to Israeli health authorities.

Israel’s fire and rescue service said a fuel tanker and a building at the oil refinery in the northern city of Haifa were hit by debris from an intercepted missile, according to a report from Israeli daily the Times of Israel.

It was unclear whether the missile was launched by Iran, the Lebanese Shiite group Hezbollah or Yemen’s Houthi rebels.

Deaths from the conflict continue to rise, with 1,900 people killed in Iran, over 1,200 in Lebanon, 19 in Israel and 13 U.S. military members. Millions of people have been displaced from their homes in Iran and Lebanon.

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Ceballos and Quinton reported from Washington, Bulos from Beirut.

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Dem senator warns deportation could let Virginia woman’s illegal immigrant killer ‘escape accountability’

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Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., is calling on prosecutors to try, convict and punish the undocumented killer of Stephanie Minter, arguing that he must face American justice before he’s ordered to leave the country.

Kaine said he fears deportation could be a form of leniency.

“I’m not sure that if he’s deported, [that] he will really face the punishment that he should face. If you do a deportation now, what’s the guarantee he would really face severe consequences for what he’s done?” Kaine said.

“I think he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and then possibly deported after that, but I wouldn’t want him to escape accountability for the crime.”

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Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., speaks to reporters as he walks into the Senate Chamber on Dec. 11, 2025 in Washington, D.C. (Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)

Authorities are charging Abdul Jalloh, a 32-year-old Sierra Leone native, with the murder of Stephanie Minter after authorities found her dead at a bus stop in Fairfax, Virginia last month.

Jalloh had already been arrested more than 30 times before his fatal confrontation with Minter, according to the Department of Homeland Security. Among others, his previous charges included rape, malicious wounding, assault, drug possession, identity theft, trespassing and more.

Local authorities dropped previous charges against Jalloh, allowing him to walk free.

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Kaine believes this time should be different.

“I think he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and then possibly deported after that,” Kaine said.

Abdul Jalloh, 32, is accused of killing Stephanie Minter, 41, at a Virginia bus stop.  (Fox 5 DC)

Jalloh has been charged with second-degree murder.

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Even as questions remain about why Virginia authorities let Jalloh go, Kaine, who served as governor of Virginia from 2006 to 2010, posited that ICE may have failed to follow through on requests to detain Jalloh ahead of Minter’s murder.

“My experience when I was governor — and this is now 15 or 20 years ago — is that we would normally let ICE know before we let anybody out of prison in Virginia, and then they wouldn’t show up,” Kaine said.

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Senator Tim Kaine, D-Va., speaks during a Senate Foreign Relations Committee confirmation hearing in Washington, D.C. on March 13, 2025.  (Al Drago/Bloomberg via Getty Images)

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“We would give them two-weeks notice [and say] ‘Hey, here’s somebody who’s here, come pick them up,’ and they wouldn’t show up. That was more my experience.”

Fox Digital reached out to the Department of Homeland Security for comment.

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