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At 2021 O.C. event, JD Vance said divorces after unhappy, 'even violent' marriages 'didn't work out for the kids'

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At 2021 O.C. event, JD Vance said divorces after unhappy, 'even violent' marriages 'didn't work out for the kids'

At a 2021 event hosted by a private Newport Beach high school, future Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance said that after the sexual revolution of the 1960s, children suffered when their parents divorced, even when the marriages were unhappy or “maybe even violent.”

Vance, the author of the 2016 bestselling memoir “Hillbilly Elegy,” told the crowd at the Orange County event that his grandparents did not divorce despite an “incredibly chaotic marriage in a lot of ways,” and said that some couples now see marriage as a “a basic contract, like any other business deal.”

“This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace,” Vance said. “Which is this idea that like, well, OK, these marriages were fundamentally — you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them, and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term.”

He added: “And maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I’m skeptical. But it really didn’t work out for the kids of those marriages. And I think that’s what all of us should be honest about. We’ve run this experiment in real time and what we have is a lot of very, very real family dysfunction that’s making our kids unhappy.”

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Vance spoke at an event hosted by Pacifica Christian High School the year before he was elected to the U.S. Senate. David O’Neil, Pacifica’s head of school, confirmed to The Times that the school hosted Vance off campus as part of a community speaking series. He said the event was not a fundraiser.

“The evening was wonderful, and Mr. Vance was well received,” O’Neil said.

Vance’s comments were posted online by Vice News during Vance’s successful 2022 Senate campaign in Ohio.

California Democrats are trying to link Vance’s comments to Republican Scott Baugh, who is running for Congress in a hotly contested coastal Orange County district where Rep. Katie Porter (D-Irvine) is not seeking reelection.

Baugh is on the board of trustees at Pacifica, which held the Vance event, his campaign confirmed.

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Democratic state Sen. Dave Min, who is running against Baugh, described Vance’s comments as “radical” and “dangerous,” and called on Baugh to disavow them.

“Anyone who knows anything about domestic violence knows that what JD Vance is saying is horrific — it is ignorant, it is reprehensible,” Min said in an interview.

Min’s wife, a law professor at UC Irvine, directs a legal aid clinic that provides free representation to survivors of domestic violence.

“Domestic violence is never acceptable, in any circumstance,” Baugh said in a statement. “I stand by victims of domestic violence and, frankly, all crime.”

The Trump-Vance campaign did not respond to a request for comment, nor did press representatives for Vance’s Senate office.

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When asked in 2022 whether he thought it would be better for couples in violent relationships to stay married for the sake of their children, Vance said through a spokesperson that he rejected the premise of the “bogus question.”

Vance said his reference to “one of the great tricks” of the sexual revolution was the contention that “domestic violence would somehow go down if progressives got what they want, when in fact modern society’s war on families has made our domestic violence situation much worse. Any fair person would recognize I was criticizing the progressive frame on this issue, not embracing it.”

The reported rate of domestic violence in the U.S. has declined over Vance’s lifetime.

In “Hillbilly Elegy,” Vance turns a raw lens on his family’s brushes with domestic violence, divorce and addiction. Vance’s mother was addicted to drugs, and Vance was raised by his grandparents, whose relationship, he said, was tumultuous and violent.

His grandfather, whom he called Papaw, was “a violent drunk,” Vance wrote in the book, and his grandmother, whom he called Mamaw, was a “violent nondrunk.” One night, he said, Mamaw threatened to kill Papaw if he came home drunk again. A week later, Papaw came home drunk and fell asleep on the couch.

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“Mamaw, never one to tell a lie, calmly retrieved a gasoline canister from the garage, poured it all over her husband, lit a match, and dropped it on his chest,” Vance wrote. He said his grandfather burst into flames that were extinguished by his 11-year-old daughter.

Vance’s grandparents were separated for many years, but did not divorce, he wrote. They were “together until the end, till death do us part,” Vance said at the Orange County event. “That was a really important thing to my grandmother and my grandfather. That was clearly not true by the ‘70s or ‘80s.”

The event’s moderator asked Vance what cultural avenues or government policies he would support to “reinvigorate Americans’ belief in the institution of marriage.” Vance said that, among other ideas, he would look to Hungary for inspiration.

In an effort to buck that country’s declining birth rate, the government of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban in 2019 began offering subsidized loans of up to $27,500 to newly married couples if the bride is younger than 41.

The loans are forgiven if couples have at least three children. Couples who divorce, move abroad or remain childless after five years must repay the loans, including interest.

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“It’s really crazy,” Vance said of the policy. “The amount of marriage has skyrocketed, and the amount of stable, long-term marriages has skyrocketed, too.”

Times staff writer Hailey Branson-Potts contributed to this report.

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Tim Walz 'misspoke' about using weapons ‘in war,' Harris campaign says: report

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Democratic vice presidential candidate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, whose military service has come under heavy scrutiny, “misspoke” in a 2018 video where he is heard talking about his handling of weapons “in war,” a Harris campaign spokesperson said Friday.

“Governor Walz would never insult or undermine any American’s service to this country — in fact, he thanks Senator Vance for putting his life on the line for our country. It’s the American way,” the Harris campaign spokesperson said in a statement to NBC News. 

“In making the case for why weapons of war should never be on our streets or in our classrooms, the Governor misspoke. He did handle weapons of war and believes strongly that only military members trained to carry those deadly weapons should have access to them, unlike Donald Trump and JD Vance who prioritize the gun lobby over our children,” the spokesperson added.

I SERVED WITH TIM WALZ AS A REPUBLICAN IN THE HOUSE. HE’LL BE A GOOD VICE PRESIDENT

Democratic vice presidential candidate Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz speaks during a campaign event on Aug. 7. (Andrew Harnik)

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The 2018 video clip shows Walz discussing gun control and referring to his own military background. 

“We can make sure that those weapons of war, that I carried in war, is the only place where those weapons are at,” Walz said in the clip, which was posted by Harris’ campaign on Tuesday.

Republicans, led by vice presidential candidate JD Vance, have criticized Walz’s military service. Walz served 24 years in the National Guard but never deployed to a war zone. In 2003, he deployed with his unit to Vicenza, Italy in support of Operation Enduring Freedom, the name for the war in Afghanistan. 

Trump campaign communications director Steven Cheung said that Walz’ campaign is scrambling to “clean up his own mess.” 

“Why won’t Tim Walz address his lies himself? Why does he need to send out lowly spokespeople to clean up his own mess? Walz is a liar and fraud, and Kamala picked a running mate that shares her own vile values,” Cheung said.

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Walz retired from the military in 2005, several months before the unit deployed to Iraq. 

Vance, a Marine Corps veteran who served in Iraq, has accused Walz of “stolen valor.”

“I wonder Tim Walz, when were you ever in war?” Vance said at an event in Michigan. “What was this weapon you carried into war? What bothers me about Tim Walz is this stolen valor garbage. Do not pretend to be something that you’re not.”

“I’d be ashamed if I was him and I lied about my military service like he did,” he added. 

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Executives at voting machine company Smartmatic indicted for alleged bribery scheme

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A federal grand jury in Miami has charged the co-founder of Smartmatic, a voting machine maker that is separately suing Fox News for defamation, with paying $1 million in bribe payments to officials in the Philippines.

The indictment announced Thursday by the Justice Department said Smartmatic President Roger Piñate and two other employees allegedly made illegal payments to a former Philippines elections commissioner in order to get its voting machines and services used in the country’s 2016 election.

The department said the payments were funded by a slush fund the executives created by inflating the cost of the voting machines. The money was allegedly laundered through bank accounts in Asia, Europe and the U.S.

Piñate, a Venezuelan citizen, Smartmatic executive Jorge Vasquez and former executive Elie Moreno are each charged with one count of conspiracy to violate the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which forbids corporate bribery abroad.

Boca Raton, Fla.-based Smartmatic is currently waging defamation suits against Fox News and its smaller competitor Newsmax. The company said the conservative networks aired false statements about its machines being used to commit voter fraud during the 2020 presidential election, charges that were pushed by former President Trump and his allies.

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Smartmatic’s machines were only used in Los Angeles County during the 2020 presidential contest, not in any of the states where Trump said voter fraud was committed.

The firm’s case against Newsmax is scheduled for a Delaware trial in September. The case against Fox News, in which Smartmatic is asking for $2.7 billion in damages, would go to court next year in New York unless it’s settled.

In a statment, Smartmatic said it had placed the two indicted current employees on leaves of absence, effective immediately. The company also noted that the case has nothing to do with voter fraud.

“No voter fraud has been alleged and Smartmatic is not indicted,” the company said. “Voters worldwide must be assured that the elections they participate in are conducted with the utmost integrity and transparency.”

Still, Fox News is likely to cite the Justice Department indictment in defense of its case. Fox News had no comment on the matter. “We look forward to defending our case in court,” a representative said.

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Biden hunkers down at Delaware beach house after only public event of the week

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President Biden is now hunkering down at his home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Friday after holding only one public event this week. 

Biden arrived there late Thursday night and remains away from the White House following a tumultuous week around the globe and on Wall Street. He has no events scheduled for today. 

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On Friday, the threat of an Iranian counterattack on Israel was still looming large following last week’s killings of top Hezbollah and Hamas officials in Lebanon and Iran. 

Russia also has declared a “federal-level” emergency in its Kursk region bordering Ukraine, according to The Associated Press, where Kyiv has launched one of the largest surprise attacks on Russia since the war began over two years ago. 

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President Joe Biden and first lady Jill Biden walk down the steps of Air Force One at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, Thursday, Aug. 8, 2024, as they head to their home in Rehoboth Beach, Del., for a long weekend.  (AP/Susan Walsh)

Around 1,000 Ukrainian troops are reported to have poured into Russia, where fighting is ongoing. 

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Wall Street also has had a shaky week.  

Following a global market sell-off on Monday — which caused the Dow to plunge 2.6%, Nasdaq Composite 3.43% and S&P 500 3% — the jobless claims report out Thursday eased some concerns of a downturn. 

However, one U.S. economist is cautioning that this may be just the beginning of a “reckoning.” 

“There’s a lot of pain ahead of us, both for the economy and this reckoning for the markets that have been really behind the curve, like the Fed,” Macromavens President Stephanie Pomboy said Thursday on FOX Business’ “Mornings with Maria.” 

PELOSI ADMITS BIDEN CAMPAIGN WASN’T ON ‘PATH TO VICTORY’ 

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US President Joe Biden speaks as he welcomes the Texas Rangers to celebrate their 2023 World Series championship in the East Room of the White House on Thursday, Aug. 8. It was his only public event of the week. (MANDEL NGAN/AFP via Getty Images)

Biden held his lone public event of the week on Thursday when he hosted MLB’s reigning World Series champion Texas Rangers at the White House. 

After Biden gave a few remarks about the Rangers’ championship season, manager Bruce Bochy presented him with a customized jersey. Biden then held up the jersey and posed for a photo. Bochy also gave the president a pair of cowboy boots. 

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President Joe Biden arrives at Dover Air Force Base on his way to his Rehoboth Beach home on Thursday night. (AP/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

 

Moments later, Biden asked, “All right, what am I doing now?” as the guests and players laughed. 

Fox News’ Caitlin McFall and Chantz Martin, and FOX Business’ Kristen Altus contributed to this report. 

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