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False electors' communications counter 'contingency' argument

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For months, participants in Wisconsin’s false electors scheme — in which 10 Republicans signed official-looking documentation attesting that former President Donald Trump won Wisconsin in 2020, although he had lost — have maintained that they were developing a contingency plan in the face of pending legal action.

But documents cited in the criminal complaint brought against three alleged masterminds behind that scheme, filed by Attorney General Josh Kaul earlier this week, appear to contradict that claim.

Attorneys Kenneth Chesebro and James Troupis exchanged emails suggesting that they weren’t depending on court cases to grant them cause to submit false slates of electors from certain key swing states on January 6, 2021, the Constitutionally mandated date for certifying an election.

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And political operative Michael Roman used colorful language when rejecting the idea of including a qualifier on the false elector sheet that it should be treated as a backup.

“There’s a lot more documentation that the Attorney General here in Wisconsin has been able to sort of comb through to see the communication that this was intentional, and that there was a plan,” said Lily Goren, a political scientist at Carroll University in Waukesha. “It wasn’t, you know, a kind of like, ‘Oh, let’s just try this and see if it works.”

That’s the argument Kaul put forward when he charged Chesebro, Troupis and Roman with one felony charge each of forgery on Tuesday. Chesebro and Roman have also been indicted elsewhere for their alleged role developing and executing the strategy, which was first developed in Wisconsin.

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Troupis, then the lead Wisconsin attorney for Trump’s campaign, and Chesebro appeared to have used Wisconsin as a testing ground for a novel legal strategy arguing that courts, state legislatures or even the Vice President — acting in his role as president of the U.S. Senate — could determine a state’s election results.

In a Dec. 8, 2020 email cited in Kaul’s criminal complaint, Chesebro tells Troupis that providing alternate electors could be a way of exerting “leverage” on Congress.

“Court challenges pending on Jan. 6 really not necessary,” Chesebro wrote.

In a Dec. 12, 2020, a text message between Roman and Chesebro, Chesebro said he thought that language should be appended to the electors documents clarifying that they are not official.

“I don’t,” Roman responded.  “f— these guys”

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Roman, a longtime conservative opposition researcher and later Trump White House staffer, is alleged to have delivered the false documentation to Congress on January 6, 2021, the day of the deadly U.S. Capitol riots.

The criminal complaint says that Pennsylvania’s false elector documents did include that distinguishing language.

“And so there’s some discussion about whether some of the electors were aware” that they weren’t creating a contingency, said Goren, the political scientist. “One of the other persons casting one of the fake elector votes noted that they knew that the court had finished its decision that morning, in fact, and that there were no more pending legal issues in Wisconsin.”

State electors — both true and false — met on the Constitutionally determined date of December 14 to cast their electoral college votes. Earlier that same day, before anyone signed documents at the Wisconsin state Capitol in Madison, the Wisconsin Supreme Court had rejected a lawsuit filed by Troupis asking for Biden’s victory in the state to be overturned.

Former Wisconsin Republican Party Chair Andrew Hitt, who was one of the false electors, has said the group, acting on the advice of lawyers, had been “tricked.”

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Roman, Troupis and the Trump campaign did not respond to WPR’s requests for comment. Chesebro could not be reached for comment.

False electors scheme allegedly led to Jan. 6 violence

In civil and criminal complaints against false electors in multiple states, prosecutors have argued their actions paved the way for the deadly day of chaos at the U.S. Capitol when pro-Trump rioters stormed the building.

U.S. Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Mississippi, who chairs a U.S. House committee investigating the events of that day, has said the “alternative” slates of electors were intended to delay or block certification of the election that day.

Wisconsin now joins four other states — Nevada, Georgia, Arizona and Michigan — where criminal charges have been filed against people involved in false electors schemes.

On Friday, Roman pleaded not guilty to nine felony charges in Arizona. He and Trump’s former chief of staff Mark Meadows, along with others, have been charged in Phoenix for allegedly working across states to enact the scheme.

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Chesebro and Roman have also been charged in the election interference case in Georgia, where Chesebro has pleaded guilty to one felony count of conspiracy to commit filing false documents.

In March, Chesebro and Troupis also settled a Wisconsin civil lawsuit brought against them in 2022. As part of that agreement, the two men admitted no “liability or culpability,” but said they would not submit false electors in the future.

The ten individuals who acted as electors, which included sitting Wisconsin Elections Commissioner Bob Spindell and Hitt, the former GOP Chair, also separately settled that lawsuit. In the settlement, the group admitted no wrongdoing but said their actions had been used to lay the groundwork for the deadly attempted insurrection of Jan. 6.

That lawsuit, brought by the progressive law firm Law Forward, led to the release of a trove of documents, some cited in Kaul’s complaint. It included an email from Chesebro to Troupis just days after the election, suggesting that they could create a “cloud of confusion” that would remove Wisconsin’s votes, and potentially votes from Michigan and Pennsylvania, from consideration — thus “throw(ing) the election to the (U.S.) House.”

Chesebro, Troupis and Roman’s first court appearance in the Wisconsin case will be on Sept. 19. The charges carry a potential fine of up to $10,000 and imprisonment of up to six years.

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Amazon delivery service partner in Wisconsin to close, 41 employees losing jobs

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KENOSHA, Wis. (WFRV) – A logistics and transportation company that partners with Amazon for delivery service in Wisconsin announced it will permanently close in March. According to a letter to the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development, H4 Logistics, LLC, will close on March 23, permanently laying off 41 employees. Officials notified employees of their final […]



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3 weekend events you don’t want to miss Jan. 22-25 in Wisconsin Rapids

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3 weekend events you don’t want to miss Jan. 22-25 in Wisconsin Rapids


WISCONSIN RAPIDS − The Daily Tribune is highlighting local events happening in the Wisconsin Rapids area. Every week, you’ll find three local events ranging from children’s activities to festivals, learning events, performances and more. Do you have an event you want to highlight? Email event descriptions, posters, event links, photos and more details to news@wisconsinrapidstribune.com.

Art exhibit opening night

Olio Arts & Music Center will host its Opening Night Meet the Artists: Small & Mighty Exhibit from 5:30 to 7:30 p.m. Jan. 22 at 2651 Eighth St. S. in Wisconsin Rapids. The exhibit will feature a collection of miniature works with high attention to detail, including mini paintings, small sculptures and ceramics. The opening event will be free and open to the public. For more information, visit oliocenter.com or find Olio Arts & Music Center on Facebook.

Wingra Wind Quintet

The Arts Council of South Wood County and the Mead Witter School of Music at the University of Wisconsin-Madison will host the Wingra Wind Quintet at 7:30 p.m. Jan. 22 at the Performing Arts Center at 1801 16th St. S. in Wisconsin Rapids. The Wingra Wind Quintet was founded in 1965 and is one of the longest-running quintet ensembles in the country. Tickets are $33 for adults and $15 for students and can be purchased through The Arts Council at 715-424-2787 or from 10 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. Monday through Thursday at 1040 Eighth St. S., Suite 101. For more information, visit savorthearts.com or find Arts Council – Wisconsin Rapids on Facebook.

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Sledding

You can check out the sledding scene at Poplar Springs in Wisconsin Rapids this weekend. Don’t have a sled? The Heart of Wisconsin Chamber of Commerce’s A.C.E. Community Leadership Cohort will be cutting the ribbon on a new Sled Library at 2:30 p.m. Jan. 23 at Poplar Springs on Fourth Street North where people can borrow a sled to enjoy on the hill and return it when they’re done. For more information, visit wisconsinrapidschamber.com or find Heart of Wisconsin Chamber of Commerce on Facebook.

Contact Caitlin at cshuda@usatodayco.com or follow her on Twitter @CaitlinShuda.





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Fresh off the Rose Parade, meet the Wisconsin champion Greendale High School Band 

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In a village near Milwaukee, a high school marching band reigns supreme. 

For 20 consecutive years, Greendale High School has won the Wisconsin School Music Association State Marching Band Championship in their division. And they’ve recently been recognized for their achievements by the Wisconsin State Legislature.

The school’s student body is around 900 students, and 200 of them are in the band. Members have performed in spectacles like the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade and most recently in Pasadena, California before the Rose Bowl.

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The band plays popular songs crowds would recognize, from Disney’s “Frozen,” to Beyoncé to NSYNC’s 2000 hit “Bye Bye Bye.” There is a color guard and even a singer. Dozens of students march and play with precise choreography. 

“Ultimately, we’re in the entertainment business,” band director Tom Reifenberg told WPR’s “Wisconsin Today.” 

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When Reifenberg started at the school in 2001, there were just 85 students in the band. They had never won a championship prior to 2000. He thinks the key to success is a philosophy that might sound uncommon in youth activities culture that prioritizes specialization and singular commitment.

First, there are no auditions — anyone can join the band even if they don’t play an instrument. Next, Reifenberg ensures that students in the band still have time for other extracurricular activities. He wants it to be a low enough commitment that students can still work or play tennis. 

“Our philosophy is that we want you to do all those things because you’re in high school and should have a great high school experience,” he said. 

Reifenberg and high school senior clarinet player Liliana Ramos spoke with “Wisconsin Today.” 

Members of the Greendale marching band in Pasadena, California where they performed in the Rose Parade. Photo courtesy of Greendale High School

The following conversation has been edited for clarity and brevity. 

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Kate Archer Kent: Tom, you really make these events into full scale performances. It’s more than playing music. Can you describe what a show might be like? 

Tom Reifenberg: If you go to a variety of high schools in Wisconsin, you’ll see anything from a halftime show of Beatles music to a really competitive show that is more artistic in nature. And we always try to do both. We try to appeal to anybody that’s showing up on a Friday night watching halftime. So for example, this year we did some music from “Frozen,” we did some music by Beyoncé . It’s something that anybody at the Greendale High School stadium will latch on to. But then we also mix that with some of the artistic elements that, in the competition circuit, a judge is going to look for.

KAK: Liliana, what drew you to the marching band?

Liliana Ramos: My older cousin was in the marching band and I saw that she got to travel a lot.  And she made a lot of important friendships that she still has to this day. So that kind of drew my attention, because that’s something I was looking for heading into high school.

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The Greendale High School marching band performs at the state championship. Photo courtesy of Greendale Schools

KAK: Liliana, does the crowd break out in song along with you? Or what is that energy like with your crowds?

LR: You can see students or families get really excited when they hear a popular song that we’re playing. Or at the end the crowd just feeds off of our energy and everyone’s pretty hyped and happy about what we just put on.

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KAK: Tom, how do marching bands like Greendale get involved in performing in these really big spectacles like the Rose Parade or Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade?

TR: There’s an application process for these big events and it’s always hard to get into your first one. But once you’re in, you’re in. Because these organizations want groups that they can trust and rely on to do a good job. 

Like the Rose Bowl’s Tournament of Roses, for example, they say, ‘Once you’re in our family, we embrace you and you’re part of the Tournament of Roses family forever.’ And that’s true. Pulaski High School, up by Green Bay, is another school that has been in multiple times. 

It’s important for us that we still have to keep up our performance level and have a certain number of students in the program. They want bigger groups there because the parade itself is so big and the stands are so big, they need groups that can put out a good amount of sound.

A marching band practices outdoors in cold weather, with members playing saxophones, flutes, and trumpets, while others hold large white flags in the background.
Members of the Greendale High School band practice for their upcoming Rose Parade performance Tuesday, Dec. 9, 2025, in Greendale, Wis. Angela Major/WPR

KAK: Liliana, On New Year’s Day, you were in soggy Pasadena, California. I was watching the TV on my warm and dry couch, and just feeling sad and happy for all of these band members who were trying to do their best in those conditions. What was it like?

LR: Honestly, I had a lot of fun. It was different, because not a lot of people can say they’ve marched in the Rose Parade while it was downpouring. I think it made the energy a little higher for us because it’s different. 

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TR: What Liliana just said with the energy, it was phenomenal. You could tell at first, when the rain first started everyone was like, “Oh no, we have to do this in the rain.” But then it was just like “We’re here. Let’s do it. Let’s bring it.” 

And I think our kids brought that energy and also the crowd lining the parade route for the whole 5.5 miles gave that energy back to us, which was really cool. 

We were worried at first that maybe the Pasadena locals might not come out because they come every year and if it’s raining maybe they won’t be there, but they were there in droves and it was awesome. I wouldn’t have changed the rain part for the world to be honest.

KAK: Tom, there’s also a big financial commitment for families with performances like these. What is fundraising like for the marching band?

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TR: We do a lot of individual based fundraisers so that families can choose what they participate in and what they don’t participate in, because like any other organization there are families that can just write the check but then there are some that have to fundraise every last cent. 

What’s fortunate about Greendale is the community support is phenomenal. 

KAK: Liliana, when you’re out fundraising how supportive is the community in donating to the marching band?

LR: The community wants to see us succeed so I feel like that’s what urges them to help donate. I would say Greendale’s a very tight knit community as well. So everyone is extremely supportive of the band.

KAK: Liliana, for a student who is not in marching band but plays an instrument: Do you have any advice?

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LR: I would tell them to join the band because you’re going to make some lifelong friends. You spend so much time with these people at rehearsals and competitions and trips. So do it, because nothing bad can come out of joining band.



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