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Marisa Abela, Harry Lawtey break down the 'Industry' finale's big romantic twist

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Marisa Abela, Harry Lawtey break down the 'Industry' finale's big romantic twist

Warning: the following contains major spoilers from the Season 3 finale of “Industry.”

After an interminable game of “Will They/Won’t They?,” “Industry” fans finally got an answer about Yasmin and Robert’s fate on Sunday night.

Bench sex be damned, these two will decidedly not be ending up together.

Yasmin stomped all over Rob’s poor little heart during Sunday’s Season 3 finale, revealing in brutal fashion that mere hours after being intimate with him for the first time, she’d gotten engaged to another man. Perhaps Rob (Harry Lawtey) never really stood a chance against the wealthy Henry (Kit Harington), especially now that Yasmin (Marisa Abela) is broke. Still, after she uttered “I love you” to Rob — the only time in her life she’d ever said the three words — we thought there was a sliver of hope for the HBO series’ resident sweethearts.

Alas, this is “Industry.” Expecting anyone to live according to a moral compass is foolhardy.

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But let’s hear Abela and Lawtey break it all down themselves. Over a video chat from their native United Kingdom last week, the actors weighed in on their characters’ romance, Rob’s sexuality and how the hell this show will work next season if all of the Pierpoint vets are in different cities. (The conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity.)

First of all: Marisa, how could Yasmin do this to Robert?!

Abela: I kind of saw it coming, to be honest. I think that it’s the only decision she could have made in that moment. One choice she’s making is a choice that has a future attached to it — a future that she can understand that has security. And the other is to go back to London with Rob with no job, no finances, no protection against this onslaught of media attention that she’s been having to deal with. I think it’s quite a clear choice, actually, for someone like Yasmin.

Also, if you watch Episode 7, I don’t think they make that much sense together. They’re arguing 90% of the time. I think Yasmin feels like she’s disappointing Robert a lot. She’s not kind enough, gentle enough, patient enough. And I think Robert feels like he’s not impressive enough in what he’s offering her. They’re letting each other down, and that’s not a fun way to feel. Whereas Henry, although he doesn’t necessarily see her how she wants to be seen or cradle her emotionally, he doesn’t expect anything more from her than what she can give him. It’s a sort of business decision at the end of the day. I think that if she’d just come off two days in Wales with Robert that were blissful and beautiful and perfect, she’d have made that decision, but it wasn’t really clicking.

Abela says the couple’s sex is “simple and it’s tender and it’s intimate, you know, compared to pissing on someone in the shower.”

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(Simon Ridgway / HBO)

It was clicking sexually!

Abela: Yes, exactly. They had this great sex. They told each other they loved each other, which I think they do in that moment, at least. But I think for Yasmin it’s just not enough. She has a lot on her plate back in London. She doesn’t have a home, a family. It would be a lot of pressure on Robert to put up with that. Imagine the opposite. They drive away from this big house together, and they go back to Finsbury Park and we watch them, like, make dinner that night or order a delivery that night. What does Yasmin do next? Other than feel like she’s with someone that she loves. I think we’re forgetting that we’re talking about Yasmin here. She’s brutal. Feeling the warm and cozy thing is not at the top of her list.

The sex that Robert and Yasmin have is kind of the most beautiful thing about their relationship. It’s simple and it’s tender and it’s intimate, you know, compared to pissing on someone in the shower.

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Both of your characters are sexually open. Harry, do you think there is a world where Rob is bisexual?

Lawtey: Fundamentally, yes. That’s always been part of the conversation that me and the boys have had since the first season. And there are scenes that never made it to the edit that explored that slightly more.

The show is a coming-of-age story. They’re in these evolving years in their lives and they’re being put into these awkward, intense, claustrophobic situations as part of this big ecosystem, which they’re kind of designed to serve. And yet, at the same time, they’re trying to carve out personality within that. And of course, their sexual lives and identities certainly intersect with all of that. The show has always treated that as character work and development. They all kind of surprise one another, and they’re all open because they live such a radical lifestyle.

Abela: They’re dealing with large sums of money every day, long hours, huge stakes. These things kind of lend themselves to wanting to throw themselves into things with more abandon than a normal person. They’re all becoming more and more desensitized, so they’re more desperate to try something that’s going to stimulate them sexually or emotionally in their relationships. In Season 1, Yasmin was shocking herself with the things that she was asking people to do for her. And now it’s more sort of like, “Am I willing to go there with him? Yeah, maybe. Why not? Let’s see how it goes.”

I think fans shipped Yas and Rob because they always seemed like the two characters who had the softest centers in this harsh environment. But in the finale, Yasmin shows a brutality I didn’t know she had in her.

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Abela: In terms of an audience wanting Yasmin to sit Robert down and tell him that she got engaged? I think she’s scared to do that. I don’t think it comes out of malice. Like, she’s not trying to humiliate him at the table. I think it would be a terrifying conversation for her to have with him, and I don’t think she’s capable of having it.

I definitely think that she’s gotten harder throughout the seasons. I agree that one of the things that brought her and Rob together in the past was that, compared to Harper [played by Myha’la], she had a sort of gooey center. She wasn’t as blindly driven by success. But Yasmin and Harper have become more and more similar as the seasons have gone on because Yasmin’s situation in life has become more desperate. Survival is No. 1 on her list now.

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Abela, seen here with Kit Harington, says she doesn’t think Yasmin was “capable” of having the “terrifying conversation” where she admitted to Rob she was engaged.

(Simon Ridgway / HBO)

Lawtey: This is also a testament to how little we actually know [about the plot], because there was a certain point in Season 3 where we were taking bets on what we thought might happen for [Robert and Yasmin] at the end of the season. Naturally, I was slightly more hopeful, of course.

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Where we find them in Season 3, there’s enough texture and integrity that they do love each other and see one another authentically for who they are — almost the way they wish to be seen, if they weren’t up against all these different challenges in their little universe. But ultimately, do they pound for pound make one another happy each day? Is that kind of connection sustainable? Maybe not.

Yasmin is in this bind where she’s forced into making a very practical choice that serves her. You can’t judge that, necessarily. And I think it’s fundamentally because Robert knows her, he gets it and accepts it pretty quickly in relation to how devastated he is. The speed with which he gathers himself is unlike Rob, but it’s because he knows that there’s a sliver of a world where this is wonderful and brilliant — but it’s a long shot. If anything, the ending of this season is a springboard for Robert to go and rediscover himself and try to recapture a part of him that has gone missing.

He does already kind of seem over it by the time he says goodbye to her in the driveway.

Lawtey: He knows her and he knows the system now. This season is a final look behind the curtain for Robert, socially and politically and professionally. He is coming to grips, finally, with the structure of how things operate and his place within that structure. Without being too cruel to himself, he’s accepted that ultimately, he’s not made for this world. And Yasmin is. And that’s where they have to part. It was a pipe dream, I think, their relationship. One that he believed in fervently for a minute. That scene that they have together by the lake, that’s kind of like a little window into that. But it’s a bit of a dream. I don’t think it would be like that.

Everyone in the show at Pierpoint has to ask themselves, “Why do I come to work? Why do I show up here? What do I get from this?” And I think almost all of those questions have been answered for Rob, apart from Yasmin. This is the final untethering for him. And so it’s very freeing. “Oh, I can just go and build my own life now, and I can try to be happy again.” He’s spent far too long for the last couple of years being sad.

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“This is the final untethering for him,” Lawtey says of his character. “He’s spent far too long for the last couple of years being sad.”

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And Yasmin is left behind at this mansion. Is she really cut out to be a housewife in the English countryside?

Abela: I don’t think she’s cut out to sit idly by and be someone’s wife. But I don’t think that Henry’s gonna ask that of her, either. I don’t think that it’s gonna be a conventional marriage [Laughs]. I just get the feeling that neither of them really need that from the other one. I’m sure she’ll be up and down from London.

But I don’t think Yasmin should have ever been an investment banker. This season, so many traumatic events happen to her and I still think that Yasmin looks the most lost when she’s on the desk. I think that she looks far more comfortable on a boat, even after her father has just jumped overboard. She’s really a talented manipulator, and she’ll find a way of using that to her advantage.

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I’m so glad that the show got renewed, especially because the showrunners really wrapped so many storylines up with a bow that I feared Season 3 would be the end of “Industry.” Did you ever worry about that?

Lawtey: With Mickey [Down] and Konrad [Kay, the showrunners], they always have this really exciting notion of just burning their best ideas and challenging themselves to come up with something interesting and dynamic and brave. They’ll always run it and see if they can write themselves out of that corner. So I never really second guess the direction they’re going in, because they always have something up their sleeves. They don’t save anything for final episodes or whatever. As we’ve seen from a few points of the season, no one’s ever really dead, either. They make the most of every inch of the characters in this show.

Abela: It does feel like an end of a chapter for all of them. But, you know, I kind of felt the same at the end of Season 2 with Harper leaving the bank. Season 1 was all about Harper’s relationship to Pierpoint. If they were going to keep going with “Industry,” it didn’t feel that tethered to Pierpoint anymore. These characters were sort of bursting out of that establishment.

Can you imagine an “Industry” where Yas is in England, Rob is in San Francisco, Harper is in New York, etc.?

Abela: I guess they’re probably not all in the same workplace. I don’t know where they’ll be.

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Lawtey: Their lives are rapidly becoming broader, as is the general scope and scale of the show. I think it’s fair to say that in this season, the boys started taking much bigger swings in the tone and style and the landscape of the show, and I think that really suits the characters and their development. Those channels to one another are still going to be there, but they’re being stretched and pushed into different shapes. Which is exciting for us, to keep on having to rethink and recontextualize the way in which these people relate to one another.

A man holding a baseball bat walks by desks covered in plastic

The cast went to watch Ken Leung film the final scene of Episode 3 where he took a baseball bat to the Pierpoint offices.

(Simon Ridgway / HBO)

Was there any sadness in saying goodbye to the Pierpoint set?

Abela: You do get a little bit sentimental about this fake building that you sort of grew up. If we were sad about saying goodbye to it, it was more about saying goodbye to the season and what the end of a Season 3 meant. The show means a lot to us, and we as people, I think, mean a lot to each other. And so we all went down and watched the final scene with Ken [Leung, who plays Eric] swinging that bat around. It just kind of felt like a moment. We all kind of grew up in that mini trailer park.

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Lawtey: It was like a really special thing to go and see Ken and send off that space for us. It does feel like a home, in a way, creatively. In the picture of our careers as actors, that represents HQ. The building where the trading floor was, they never took it down even in the long gaps between seasons. So, yeah, it was a strange thing to walk away from. When I think of that room, I think of the ensemble of the show. It’s been a collective and a community of people that has kind of revolved, but there’s been a nucleus that has stayed the same. And the home for those people is that space. We just had a lot of laughs there and some brilliant times. I was chatting to Ken the other day, and he said this season signifies the closing of a circle. And now you’ve just got to open a new circle, I think.

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Movie review: ‘Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass’ not quite ‘Wet Hot’ fun

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Comedy is a matter of taste and preference — it’s a deeply personal thing. Which makes it hard for a critic to give a blanket assessment of a specific kind of comedy, especially if it didn’t work for them, but clearly worked for others (the laughter or lack thereof is the indication). “It’s not funny,” the critic says, “well I had fun,” someone else can reply, and then we’re at an impasse.

Which is the dilemma one finds oneself in with “Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass,” a very strange and shaggy Hollywood satire of sorts from David Wain and The State crew, still riding the goodwill of “Wet Hot American Summer” after all these years. If only this were as funny.

“Gail Daughtry” lives in the same world as that iconic summer camp spoof, as well as Wain’s 2014 rom-com parody, “They Came Together,” in that he’s playing with genre convention and expectation, taking well-known norms to the goofiest extremes. But those films hewed more closely to their respective genres, while “Gail Daughtry” is totally scattered, combining crime and spy movie tropes with a fish-out-of-water comedy and a Hollywood send-up. It has far too many ideas for its own good, and yet no ideas that are good enough to sustain this bizarre curio of a comedy.

What’s ironic is that one of the problems driving this wacky plot forward is the characters have to come up with a movie idea to pitch to star Jon Hamm (playing himself of course), leading them to do some pretty inane and shockingly violent things. It’s almost as if Wain and co-writer and co-star Ken Marino had no idea for a movie, then baked their search for an idea into their script, and then turned it into a madcap adventure about a woman on a quest to have sex with Jon Hamm. What an ouroboros!

OK, about the sex quest. Gail Daughtry (Zoey Deutch) is a chipper hairdresser from Kansas born without the part of the brain that recognizes sarcasm or irony. She’s a cheerful, Pollyanna-ish naïf whose literal-mindedness is almost as extreme as Amelia Bedelia. Her childhood sweetheart and fiancé Tom (Michael Cassidy) is the same. She tells him about the concept of the “celebrity sex pass” as a joke, and he promptly boinks Jennifer Aniston at local book reading.

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(Nitpicky aside: why didn’t they use the common nomenclature “hall pass”? Is it copyrighted? “Celebrity sex pass” is clunky and sounds like an off-brand version of the well-known slang.)

That infidelity crisis is how Gail ends up in Los Angeles determined to bang Hamm, collecting a motley crew of similarly clueless helpers along the way. There’s her best friend Otto (Miles Guttierez-Riley), her salon bestie; Caleb (Ben Wang), an overly ambitious intern at Creative Artists Agency; Vince (Marino), a screenwriter turned paparazzo with a heart of gold; and John Slattery, as John Slattery, down on his luck. An accidental briefcase swap has a pair of thugs on their tail, in a forgettable and underdeveloped B-plot.

With a parade of celebrity cameos and collaborators in bit parts, “Gail Daughtry” at times feels like an excuse for Wain and co. to make something at home with all of their friends. Fair enough, it’s great to see all these people employed, but what about what we’re watching? Behold, the Los Angeles of the middle-aged working comedian: the CAA lobby, the Chateau Marmont, Griffith Park, etc. And the plot is as half-baked as the pitch they present to Hamm.

What’s actually interesting about this comedy is the distinct streak of despair and even resentment that reveals itself at the climax, a feeling of helplessness and uselessness. Everyone’s been striving to make it in this crazy town: the intern, the actor, the paparazzo. But not even Jon Hamm can help them get a movie made; even he feels inherently powerless. There’s an unexplored anxiety vibrating there that feels the most thematically fruitful, about what it means, some 25 years after bursting onto the scene with a generation-defining comedy, about maintaining the work, the drive, a sense of purpose, after years of strikes, and in the face of a constricting industry. Do they still have it? Is the dream still alive?

Maybe that’s why Wain and Marino need to invent a dreamer stand-in with Gail, a guileless eternal optimist who knows nothing of the craven Los Angeles and accepts everything at face value (though she is filled with a scary bit of rage too). She might behave like she has a head injury, but she’s going to achieve her goal, dammit. “Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass” might not be as funny as “Wet Hot American Summer” (for this critic), but reframed, it serves as a fascinating status update on life in La La Land for this troupe.

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‘Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass’

2 stars (out of 4)

MPA rating: R (for sexual content, violence/bloody images and language)

Running time: 1:33

How to watch: In theaters July 10

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Emily Ratajkowski’s viral essay on sex life as a single mom scores her a seven-figure book deal

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Emily Ratajkowski’s viral essay detailing her sex life as a single mom just landed her a seven-figure book deal.

According to Page Six, the model’s essay in the Cut had publishers champing at the bit in a 12-way bidding war that culminated in the hefty pay day. Editor Helen Rouner at Penguin Press — who also edited Lauren Christensen’s memoir “Firstborn” and Michael W. Clune’s novel “Pan” — reportedly landed the deal.

Penguin Press did not immediately respond to The Times’ request for comment Friday.

Publishers Marketplace announced the forthcoming memoir, describing it as “an examination of modern female identity through the story of the author’s own efforts as a newly single mother in New York City to discover what really constitutes a good life for a woman.”

The essay, which dropped a month ago and quickly broke the internet, drops the veil on EmRata’s sexual adventures (or maybe misadventures) since she and her former husband, Sebastian Bear-McClard, split in 2022.

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“It was a violent transition into a new reality of screaming baby on my aching tit and ring on my swollen finger,” Ratajkowski writes of new motherhood. “And then, in a time period that felt both instant and excruciatingly slow, my marriage collapsed. Six months after my son was born, my husband and I stopped having sex. Less than a year later, we separated.”

In the missive, the model interrogates her sexuality — is she a Madonna or a whore? — while untangling bigger questions around gender, power and self-actualization. If Carrie Bradshaw wrote about “Sex and the City,” then Ratajkowski is writing about sex, the city and single motherhood. And naturally, her fleeting paramours have vague monikers: “Vegan Graffiti Artist,” “Spanish Gen-Zer” and “Son of a Billionaire.”

“And then there was the Elder Millennial: obsessed with dental hygiene, psychedelics, and dirty talk,” she writes. “He had approached the subject coyly at first, like it was something he was kind of embarrassed about — the way a kid will test you to see if you’ll talk to them about their dorky obsession of the moment. Do you like Godzilla? What about Star Wars?”

Would-be sleuths with Ratajkowski’s essay and a gossip rag handy will have their work cut out for them.

This will be Ratajkowski’s second book. The first, “My Body,” dropped in 2021 and was a bestselling collection of essays exploring gender, power dynamics, sexuality and the commodification of female beauty in the modeling and entertainment industries.

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Ratajkowski’s foray into the spotlight came more than a decade ago when Robin Thicke’s controversial “Blurred Lines” music video made the model an overnight star. She was cast in David Fincher’s adaptation of “Gone Girl,” which hit theaters the following year, and catapulted to top fashion runways — Marc Jacobs, Versace, Victoria’s Secret and Dolce & Gabbana, to name a few. She she’s been romantically linked to Harry Styles, Eric Andre, Shaboozey, Brad Pitt and Pete Davidson, among others.

In 2023, she moonlighted as the host of the “High Low With EmRata” podcast, where she interviewed sex workers, investigated ethical nonmonogamy and pondered the etymology of the word “toxic.” The same year, she told The Times that she was coming into herself post-divorce, “Being able to assert what I want — that feels like it just started: My life as a creator and not as a muse.”

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‘Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass’ Review: We’re Off to Hump the Wizard

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Wainheads will be delighted to see his alums in cameos: Kerri Kenney-Silver, Michael Ian Black, Thomas Lennon, and supporting roles for Zickel and Truglio. A large portion of the cast are his homies. But with Deutch, Gutierrez-Riley, Wang, Slattery, Impacciatore, and yes, Hamm, it’s as if they’re being inducted into a new mad family. Wain and Marino are basically catching Pokémon and hoping they can hold onto the roster (by that logic, yes, Paul Rudd is a legendary Pokémon). The film is anchored by Zoey — everything everywhere all this summer with Voicemails From Isabelle to Minions & Monsters — Deutch in the Dorothy Gale role, exuding a high level of perkiness consistent with the character’s can-do, wide-eyed, midwestern charm and heart.  

A major standout, Ben Wang finally gets to show off his comedic abilities, portraying a self-assured, quick-witted agent who makes me laugh every time he reveals his sheltered upbringing in snappy whines at every inconvenience. Sabrina Impacciatore, who has proven to be a comedic juggernaut in The Paper, is having so much fun hamming it up as the mob boss-esque wicked witch counterpart, torturing her henchmen and deliciously chewing up the scenery whenever onscreen. I don’t think they use her to the height of her comedic prowess, but she’s a delight nonetheless.  John Slattery is the film’s comedic MVP. The way the writers use his over-the-top character for comedy is downright hilarious every time. They use him as either a punchline or a force of nature, and he’s great. This movie is like Mad Men propaganda, and by God, it works. As someone who’s never seen it, Gail allowed me a better appreciation for Slattery and Hamm. 

Man, we don’t deserve Jon Hamm. This is the second time I’ve seen him play a silly, fictionalized version of himself this year (the other being the SXSW crowd-pleasing rom-com Wishful Thinking, which Gail distributor Sony Pictures Classics acquired), and he also voice-acted in his comedic Mayor Jerry role in Hoppers. Maybe working with Wain in 2007’s The Ten was the canon event, but I consider his weird little sex scene with Kristen Wiig in Bridesmaids his awakening. Since then, I’ve only seen him as unserious, and it’s delightful. Oz-like in appearance, he’s funny and befitting the film’s overall light, joyful nature.

LAST STATEMENT

Ultimately, Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass is a campy, delightful romp that succeeds as both a distinctive Hollywood‑centric riff and a Wizard of Oz reimagining, retaining a loving, twisted, demented charm. It’s a weird description, but it’s so high‑spirited and light‑hearted despite being strangely ultraviolent. It might as well be a live‑action episode of Smiling Friends (RIP), yet it’s everything the theatrical market needs today. Ten years ago, this would’ve been a studio production rather than an indie Sundance acquisition, but thank God it exists for the big screen. More absurdist Gail Daughtrys for cinemas (not streaming), please, because this is the most fun to be had in a theater all summer, if not the year thus far.

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