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Even its stars can't describe the genre-bending 'Emilia Pérez': 'Rarer than a green dog'

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Even its stars can't describe the genre-bending 'Emilia Pérez': 'Rarer than a green dog'

“Emilia Pérez” is a miracle of a film about the boldness it takes to blaze one’s own journey into uncharted territory. As its title character embarks on a gender transition that whisks her away from her violent drug-dealing past and into a placid domestic future, director Jacques Audiard concocts a dizzying Spanish-language musical whose outward bombastic flair anchors an intimate focus on the inner lives of women in contemporary Mexico.

When the movie won the actress award at this May’s Cannes Film Festival, the recognition was given to its ensemble: Karla Sofía Gascón, Zoe Saldaña and Selena Gomez shared the award (along with their co-star Adriana Paz). That’s no doubt because their contributions to this equally campy and earnest musical signal a truly collaborative endeavor.

Just don’t describe it as a “narco-musical.”

“I really don’t like when journalists label it that or focus just on that,” says Gascón, 52, a Spanish actor who has steadily been working in Mexico since 2009 and who famously came out as trans in 2018.

“If you think about it, there’s not much talk of drug crime here,” she adds, in her native Spanish. “There’s no narcotráfico here. It’s just not there. I just don’t understand this need by some journalists to lean into all these sensationalist headlines — narco this, trans that. I’ll say what I’ve always said: This is not a documentary.”

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Zoe Saldaña, left, and Karla Sofía Gascón in the movie “Emilia Pérez.”

(Netflix)

As the three actors pointed out while speaking to The Times on a Sunday afternoon following a Hollywood BAFTA screening, “Emilia Pérez” (in limited release Nov. 1; then on Netflix Nov. 13) is a film that is hard to distill into any one thing. Or into any neat label. Sinking into the oversized blazer she’d donned for the post-screening Q&A they’d all convened for, Gomez recalls being intrigued by what was on the page. “I kind of was like, I don’t know how this movie is going to be made, but I knew that it would be something spectacular,” she says.

Gascón, having done away with her heels for the duration of our chat, spells it out more colorfully: “When I first read the script, I thought it would never get made. Because it was so special. So weird. So different. I just never thought we’d be able to make it. I thought it was a kind of dream. But I said that if we were to make it, it’d be like ‘The Rocky Horror Picture Show’ or something like that. I mean, it’s rarer than a green dog. It’s just not normal.”

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“Then again, I’m rarer than a blue dog,” Gascón quips.

A fabulously fantastic musical about a cruel cartel leader (Gascón, in the title role) who chooses to begin a gender transition and leave behind his old life as Juan “Manitas” Del Monte, not to mention his kids and young wife, Jessi (Gomez), “Emilia Pérez” is a twisty thriller where strong-willed women (such as Saldaña’s Rita, an attorney and confidante to Emilia) cannot escape the jagged violence that lurks in every corner. It’s also a tender tale about the perils and promises of starting over that owes as much to Mexico’s trite telenovelas as it does to its big-hearted melodramas.

The story takes place in a fable-like version of Mexico, one conceived by a French filmmaker (with music written by singer-songwriter Camille and composer Clement Ducol) and shot on a soundstage in Paris. And the script was fully written out in French, English and Spanish. But for Saldaña and Gomez, the film was more grounding than you might expect — a chance for them to reconnect with their roots.

“Spanish is the first language I was spoken to,” Saldaña, 46, shares, shuttling back and forth between English and Spanish as we talk.

“My mom sang me lullabies in Spanish. So the body keeps score. There’s a recognition of home that I had started yearning for. I wasn’t actively pursuing a film like ‘Emilia Perez’ and a role like Rita, but I needed it. ‘Emilia Perez’ was a medicinal experience for me.”

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The “Avatar” star is magnetic as Rita, a good-natured lawyer who soon becomes Emilia’s right hand when the two establish a nonprofit designed to help bring closure to families looking for those who have been disappeared amid Mexico’s cartel violence. In “El Mal,” a tour-de-force musical number staged at a glitzy fundraising gala, Rita sings and spits bars feverishly about the moral compromises she’s had to make to bring Emilia’s well-meaning foundation come to life.

Zoe Saldaña in the movie "Emilia Pérez."

Zoe Saldaña in the movie “Emilia Pérez.”

(Netflix)

Wearing an instantly iconic red velvet pantsuit with a white tee, Saldaña and her exacting dance moves match beat for beat with her righteous rapping. Like many of the numbers throughout “Emilia Pérez,” Rita’s anthemic set piece is a dream sequence in which the corrupt guests seated around her can’t hear her fury.

For Gomez’s role of Jessi, meanwhile, the “Only Murders in the Building” foil admits she found much in common with a young Mexican American woman who’s constantly searching for ways of being ever more comfortable — in her body, in her home, in her own language. Not for nothing is her standout number, the catchy pop tune, “Mi Camino,” an ode to self-love that finds Gomez cooing, “Quiero quererme a mí misma” (“I want to love myself as I am”)

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“I knew specifically Jessi’s story was enticing for me,” says Gomez, 32, speaking to her years of experience in the public eye, “because I’ve been in those situations where you’re placed in an area and you’re like, ‘This is my environment. And I have to just revolve around whatever fits for everyone else.’ I could feel that urgency from her to break free and be her own person.”

Nevertheless, the role of Jessi is unlike anything the Emmy-nominated multi-hyphenate has done before. The character is first introduced as a narco wife (in bleach-blond dyed hair and a body-hugging dress to match) who cannot fathom the loss of her husband and moneyed lifestyle once Rita helps relocate her abroad.

A woman strides down a hallway.

Selena Gomez in the movie “Emilia Pérez.”

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Years later, Jessi is asked to return to Mexico to live with Emilia, a stranger to her but a woman who has been entrusted with giving Manitas’ surviving family everything they could ever need. Emilia, of course, has to hide her true identity from his ex-wife. It’s a gamble the film understands as key to how far Emilia has come and yet how close she wants to remain to the life she has left behind.

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Even as Gomez struggled performing in a language she’s not been fluent in since she was a child, she pushed herself to find the honesty in the material. Finding such aural nuances, Audiard admits, was not particularly his strength.

“If I needed, I had people who could translate,” he says over Zoom from across town with the help of a translator himself. “But I don’t always need to understand what is being said. You need to stay in motion and in expression. You need to make music. I think what’s really interesting is the musicality of the text. The musicality of what is sung or spoken is enough.”

Some of the most piercing instances in Emilia’s journey rely on Audiard’s penchant for indelible imagery. In a pivotal scene when the audience first sees Emilia post-transition following her many gender-affirming surgeries, the filmmaker captures her in a quiet moment of complete vulnerability. As we watch Emilia clasping on her bra, readying to leave the hospital once and for all, she’s trying out her new name for size.

Yo soy Emilia Pérez,” she says over and over again, modulating her intonation ever so slightly. As if she were trying to find the voice that’s long eluded her, a voice far removed from the raspy Brando-in-”Apocalypse Now” mixed with Stallone’s Rambo that Gascón had developed for his crime lord Manitas.

“Obviously that was a very difficult scene to shoot,” Gascón adds. “I had to laugh. I had to cry. And I was naked with all of these scars and everything else. Mentally it was quite taxing. That moment we shot from all sorts of angles. But it really was more beautiful from behind. I remember seeing the shot and telling Jacques, “This has to be the poster. It captures everything about the film.” And he had this notebook with him and he turned to me — I think I was really annoying him at this point — and he goes, “You want to direct the film? Take it!””

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Such playful bickering characterized the collaboration Gascón and Audiard developed over the yearlong process of fleshing out Emilia and her story. When Audiard cast Gascón, a veteran actor who’s been working steadily since 1994, he knew he’d found a tireless co-conspirator, one who helped reimagine the role away from the young, hardened protagonist he’d first envisioned. Gascón would often spend her time away from set writing and rewriting dialogue and jotting down ideas she would text the director late into the night. She helped shape Emilia — almost in her own image.

“What I gave to Emilia was my everything,” Gascón says. “My heart and soul. One of my very first jobs was as a puppeteer in Italian and Spanish television. I remember the first time I saw one of the puppets, just laying there, a rag and a plastic head. And I gave them a voice. Gave them their soul. And then, they sort of came alive and became quite famous. I got the same feeling here. That feeling of the power of creation. There’s nothing there and then, all of a sudden, there’s life. It truly feels as if I’ve given her my all.”

Gascón only half-jokes that she is still searching for ways to get what she left onscreen. “I gave Emilia my entire soul. And I’ve had to come back and recover it for myself again, almost.”

“It was a mixture of an experiment and an experience.” Saldaña adds. “I liked the experimental side of it. And we only achieved that because Jacques was not possessive over his words, his lines. That was incredibly collaborative. But also very freeing.”

The rehearsals and workshops that took place before any shooting was done allowed for each actor to feel emboldened to voice concerns or suggestions. There was little room for improvisation on set, but the endless rewriting Audiard did on the script allowed him to incorporate helpful and insightful feedback from cast and crew alike.

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“I don’t take every idea,” Audiard clarifies. “But I always listen to my actors.”

Gomez experienced that trust firsthand when an early demo written for Jessi that she deemed too racy was cut from the film. (Audiard is convinced the song may well show up in one of Camille’s future albums.) Nimble pivots were central to the entire process. Jessi’s “Mi Camino,” for instance, was never storyboarded as a karaoke number. “We had weeks of dance rehearsal for that song,” Gomez recalls. “But on the day we were shooting, Jacques just loved the karaoke. He was just like, ‘Keep going! Keep going!’”

There’s no shortage of such moments throughout “Emilia Pérez.” Many of them are rooted in the raw vulnerability Gomez, Saldaña and Gascón bring to Audiard’s maximalist musical. The frayed performances push past the film’s surreal-sounding logline and, by the time credits roll, they burrow themselves deep within the hearts of the audience.

“That’s the beauty of what this film is doing,” Saldaña says. “It doesn’t live in any one genre and yet it somehow crosses through them all.”

She recalls encountering viewers who, afterward, have been left speechless. “Words escape them,” she says. “They’re behind on their thoughts because they’re ahead with their hearts.”

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‘Greenland 2: Migration’ Review: Gerard Butler in a Post-Apocalyptic Sequel That’s Exactly What You Expect

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‘Greenland 2: Migration’ Review: Gerard Butler in a Post-Apocalyptic Sequel That’s Exactly What You Expect

Desperate migrants are forced to leave Greenland after a malevolent force makes their island uninhabitable. No, it’s not tomorrow’s headline about Donald Trump, but rather the sequel to Ric Roman Waugh’s 2020 post-apocalyptic survival thriller. That film starring Gerard Butler and Morena Baccarin had the misfortune of opening during the pandemic and going straight to VOD. Greenland 2: Migration (now there’s a catchy title) has the benefit of opening in theaters, but it truly feels like an unnecessary follow-up. After all, how many travails can one poor family take?

That family consists of John Garrity (Butler), whose structural engineering skills designated him a governmental candidate for survival in the wake of an interstellar comet dubbed “Clarke” wreaking worldwide destruction; his wife Allison (Baccarin); and their son Nathan (now played by Roman Griffin Davis). At the end of the first film, the clan had endured numerous life-threatening crises as they made their way to the underground bunker in Greenland where survivors will attempt to make a new life.

Greenland 2: Migration

The Bottom Line

It’s the end of the world as we know it…again.

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Release date: Friday, January 9
Cast: Gerard Butler, Morena Baccarin, Roman Griffin Davis, Amber Rose Revah, Sophie Thompson, Trond Fausa Aurvag, William Abadie
Director: Ric Roman Waugh
Screenwriters: Mitchell LaFortune, Chris Sparling

Rated PG-13,
1 hour 38 minutes

Five years later, things aren’t going so well. Fragments of the comet continue to rain down on the planet, causing catastrophic destruction. The contaminated air prevents people from going outside, and resources are becoming increasingly scarce. But there are some plus sides, such as the bunker’s inhabitants still being able to dance to yacht rock.

When their safe haven in Greenland is destroyed, the Garritys, along with a few other survivors, are forced to flee. Their destination is France, where there are rumors of an oasis at the comet’s original crash site. And at the very least, the food is bound to be better.

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It’s a perilous journey, but anyone who saw the first film knows what to expect. The Garritys, along with the bunker’s Dr. Casey (Amber Rose Revah), run into some very bad people, undergoing a series of life-threatening trials and tribulations.

Unfortunately, while the thriller mechanics are reasonably well orchestrated by director Waugh (Angel Has Fallen, Kandahar) in his fourth collaboration with Butler, Greenland 2: Migration feels as redundant as its title. While the first film featured a relatively original premise and some genuine emotional dynamics in its suspenseful situations, this one just feels rote. And while it’s made clear that the crisis has resulted in people resorting to cutthroat, deadly means to ensure their survival, the Garritys have it relatively easy. All John has to do is adopt a puppy-dog look, put a pleading tone in his voice, beg for his family’s help, and people inevitably comply.

To be fair, the film contains some genuinely arresting scenes, including one set in a practically submerged Liverpool and another in a dried-up English Channel. The latter provides the opportunity for a harrowing sequence in which the family is forced to cross a giant ravine on a treacherously fragile rope ladder.

Butler remains a sturdy screen presence, his Everyman quality lending gravitas to his character. Baccarin, whose character serves as the story’s moral conscience (early in the proceedings she spearheads a fight to open the shelter to more refugees despite the lack of resources, delivering a not-so-subtle message), more than matches his impact. William Abadie (of Emily in Paris) also makes a strong impression as a Frenchman who briefly takes the family in and begs them to take his daughter Camille (Nelia Valery de Costa) along with them.

Resembling the sort of B-movie fantasy adventure, with serviceable but unremarkable special effects, that used to populate multiplexes in the early ‘70s, Greenland 2: Migration is adequate January filler programming. The only thing it’s missing is dinosaurs.

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Paramount stands by bid for Warner Bros. Discovery

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Paramount is staying the course on its $30-a-share bid for Warner Bros. Discovery, again appealing directly to shareholders.

The move comes after Warner Bros. Discovery’s board voted unanimously this week to reject Paramount’s revised bid, in which billionaire Larry Ellison agreed to personally guarantee the equity portion of his son’s firm’s financing package.

Paramount Skydance, in a Thursday statement, sidestepped Warner’s latest complaints about the enormous debt load that Paramount would need to pull off a takeover. Paramount instead said the appeal of its bid should be obvious: $30 a share in cash for all of Warner Bros. Discovery, including its large portfolio of cable channels, including CNN, HGTV, TBS and Animal Planet.

Warner board members have countered that Netflix’s $27.75 cash and stock bid for much of the company is superior because Netflix is a stronger company. Warner also has complained that it would have to incur billions in costs, including a $2.8-billion break-up fee, if it were to abandon the deal it signed with Netflix on Dec. 4.

The streaming giant has agreed to buy HBO, HBO Max and the Warner Bros. film and television studios, leaving Warner to spin off its basic cable channels into a separate company later this year.

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The murky value of Warner’s cable channel portfolio has become a bone of contention in the company’s sale.

“Our offer clearly provides WBD investors greater value and a more certain, expedited path to completion,” Paramount Chief Executive David Ellison said in Thursday’s statement. Paramount said it had resolved all the concerns that Warner had raised last month, “most notably by providing an irrevocable personal guarantee by Larry Ellison for the equity portion of the financing.”

Paramount is gambling that Warner investors will evaluate the two offers and sell their shares to Paramount. Stockholders have until Jan. 21 to tender their Warner shares, although Paramount could extend that deadline.

The Netflix transaction offers Warner shareholders $23.25 in cash, $4.50 in Netflix stock and shares in the new cable channel company, Discovery Global, which Warner hopes to create this summer.

Comcast spun off most of its NBCUniversal cable channels this month, including CNBC and MS NOW, creating a new company called Versant. The result hasn’t been pretty. Versant shares have plunged about 25% from Monday’s $45.17 opening price. On Thursday, Versant shares were selling for about $32.50. (Versant has said it expected volatility earlyon as large index funds sold shares to rebalance their portfolios).

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Paramount has argued that fluctuations in Netflix’s stock also reduces the value of the Netflix offer.

“Throughout this process, we have worked hard for WBD shareholders and remain committed to engaging with them on the merits of our superior bid and advancing our ongoing regulatory review process,” Ellison said.

Paramount is relying on equity backing from three Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds, including Saudi Arabia. It turned to Apollo Global for much of its debt financing. Warner said this week that Paramount’s proposed $94 billion debt and equity financing package would make its proposed takeover of Warner the largest leveraged buyout ever.

Amid the stalemate, Paramount and Warner stock held steady. Paramount was trading around $12.36, while Warner shares are hovering around $28.50 on Thursday.

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Movie Review: A real-life ’70s hostage drama crackles in Gus Van Sant’s ‘Dead Man’s Wire’

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Movie Review: A real-life ’70s hostage drama crackles in Gus Van Sant’s ‘Dead Man’s Wire’

It plays a little loose with facts but the righteous rage of “Dog Day Afternoon” is present enough in Gus Van Sant’s “Dead Man’s Wire,” a based-on-a-true-tale hostage thriller that’s as deeply 1970s as it is contemporary.

In February 1977, Tony Kiritsis walked into the Meridian Mortgage Company in downtown Indianapolis and took one of its executives, Dick Hall, hostage. Kiritsis held a sawed-off shotgun to the back of Hall’s head and draped a wire around his neck that connected to the gun. If he moved too much, he would die.

The subsequent standoff moved to Kiritsis’ apartment and eventually concluded in a live televised news conference. The whole ordeal received some renewed attention in a 2022 podcast dramatization starring Jon Hamm.

But in “Dead Man’s Wire,” starring Bill Skarsgård as Kiritsis, these events are vividly brought to life by Van Sant. It’s been seven years since Van Sant directed, following 2018’s “Don’t Worry, He Won’t Get Far on Foot,” and one of the prevailing takeaways of his new film is that that’s too long of a break for a filmmaker of Van Sant’s caliber.

Working from a script by Austin Kolodney, the filmmaker of “My Own Private Idaho” and “Good Will Hunting” turns “Dead Man’s Wire” into not a period-piece time capsule but a bracingly relevant drama of outrage and inequality. Tony feels aggrieved by his mortgage company over a land deal the bank, he claims, blocked. We’re never given many specifics, but at the same time, there’s little doubt in “Dead Man’s Wire” that Tony’s cause is just. His means might be desperate and abhorrent, but the movie is very definitely on his side.

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That’s owed significantly to Skarsgård, who gives one of his finest and least adorned performances. While best known for films like “It,” “The Crow” and “Nosferatu,” here Skarsgård has little more than some green polyester and a very ’70s mustache to alter his looks. The straightforward, jittery intensity of his performance propels “Dead Man’s Wire.”

Yet Van Sant’s film aspires to be a larger ensemble drama, which it only partially succeeds at. Tony’s plight is far from a solitary one, as numerous threads suggest in Kolodney’s fast-paced script. First and foremost is Colman Domingo as a local DJ named Fred Temple. (If ever there were an actor suited, with a smooth baritone, to play a ’70s radio DJ, it’s Domingo.) Tony, a fan, calls Fred to air his demands. But it’s not just a media outlet for him. Fred touts himself as “the voice of the people.”

Something similar could be said of Tony, who rapidly emerges as a kind of folk hero. As much as he tortures his hostage (a very good Dacre Montgomery), he’s kind to the police officers surrounding him. And as he and Dick spend more time together, Dick emerges as a kind of victim, himself. It’s his father’s bank, and when Tony gets M.L. Hall (Al Pacino) on the phone, he sounds painfully insensitive, sooner ready to sacrifice his son than acknowledge any wrongdoing.

Pacino’s presence in “Dead Man’s Wire” is a nod to “Dog Day Afternoon,” a movie that may be far better — but, then again, that’s true of most films in comparison to Sidney Lumet’s unsurpassed 1975 classic. Still, Van Sant’s film bears some of the same rage and disillusionment with the meatgrinder of capitalism as “Dog Day.”

There’s also a telling, if not entirely successful subplot of a local TV news reporter (Myha’la) struggling against stereotypes. Even when she gets the goods on the unspooling news story, the way her producer says to “chop it up” and put it on air makes it clear: Whatever Tony is rebelling against, it’s him, not his plight, that will be served up on a prime-time plate.

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It doesn’t take recent similar cases of national fascination, such as Luigi Mangione, charged with killing a healthcare executive, to see contemporary echoes of Kiritsis’ tale. The real story is more complicated and less metaphor-ready, of course, than the movie, which detracts some from the film’s gritty sense of verisimilitude. Staying closer to the truth might have produced a more dynamic movie.

But “Dead Man’s Wire” still works. In the film, Tony’s demands are $5 million and an apology. It’s clear the latter means more to him than the money. The tragedy in “Dead Man’s Wire” is just how elusive “I’m sorry” can be.

“Dead Man’s Wire,” a Row K Entertainment release, is rated R for language throughout. Running time: 105 minutes. Three stars out of four.

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