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‘We cannot celebrate their suffering’ — Utah rabbi sees hope for peace in the Middle East

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Jewish adherents across the globe have begun the annual 10-day examination of their lives and deeds. It started with Rosh Hashana (Jewish New Year) on the evening of Oct. 2 and concludes with Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement) on the evening of Oct. 11.

It is a time to reflect, remember, recommit, repent and forgive.

This year’s High Holy Days are especially fraught for the world’s Jewry with so many eyes on Israel and its ongoing battles against Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon and now against Iran. War is also raging in Ukraine, and deep divisions are polarizing Americans during this election season.

Here are excerpts from The Salt Lake Tribune’s “Mormon Land” podcast with Rabbi Samuel Spector, who leads Salt Lake City’s Congregation Kol Ami, and explored questions of repentance and atonement during troubled times.

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What is the meaning of Rosh Hashana?

Rosh Hashana commemorates the creation of the world and humankind. I like to think of it as an opportunity for us to start to re-create ourselves. On Rosh Hashana, God makes a list of who is going to have a place in the world and who is not going to be written into the book of life. But over those 10 days between the two holidays, we have the opportunity to change God’s mind, and, once Yom Kippur is over, that list is sealed. So there’s a little bit at stake. I prefer to think of it less literally and more like if my life were to end in the next year, would I be remembered as a good person?

What about Yom Kippur?

Yom Kippur is a very solemn day. We have 25 hours of fasting — if you’re medically able to — no food, no water. We have five prayer services. It is a day where we are really thinking about what we have done individually and communally that we could be doing a better job of, and also how we can seek forgiveness from others, how we can improve ourselves over the next year, and make our lives worth living. And also perhaps how we can forgive others, or, even if we aren’t in a place to forgive others, how we don’t let anger hold us captive for the next year.

(Trent Nelson | The Salt Lake Tribune) Cantor Wendy Bat-Sarah and Rabbi Samuel Spector at Congregation Kol Ami in Salt Lake City in 2019.

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Do more people come to services on the High Holy Days?

Yes. Typically at a Shabbat service on Saturday morning, we’ll have about 70 to 80 people. I would guess that on the evening of Yom Kippur, we get about 700 people that come to our synagogue. It’s like the Super Bowl sometimes.

With the rise of antisemitism in America and increasing violence on the world stage, what steps have you taken to protect your congregation?

Sadly, since 2015 and up to the past year, we’ve seen antisemitism growing annually to record numbers. In 2022, there were nearly 3,000 antisemitic incidents in the United States recorded by the ADL [Anti-Defamation League] which estimates that they only record 1 out of every 40 events. Last year, that number reached close to 9,000 and most of that was toward the end of 2023. So I don’t know what the 2024 numbers are, but after this horrible thing that happened on Oct. 7, we received our first of four bomb threats on Oct. 8. We’ve sadly had to file numerous police reports because of harassment, threats, intimidation. We had to do some construction projects to make our synagogue safer. If you go to the synagogue right now, you will see two police cars in our parking lot, because whenever our building is open, we have a police presence, or try to at least, and we have to pay for those off-duty officers. We’ve been looking at somewhere around a half-million dollars for security.

(Rick Egan | The Salt Lake Tribune) Kaylee Gordon waves a flag as she and her family gather with members of Congregation Kol Ami to mourn those slain in Hamas attacks.

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Those threats aside, how do you and your congregation feel about living in Utah?

I feel immensely loved and accepted here. For every bad thing that’s happened, we’ve had 100 amazing things.…When people heard about our financial issues due to security, we had people call in who donated $10 and others who donated $10,000 just to make us feel loved. One of our local Latter-day Saint stakes, the East Millcreek Stake [a group of congregations], called us the last week of October and said, “We don’t know how to help, but we want to send our young people to your houses to do a leaf cleanup so you have one less thing to worry about.” The amount of love and support we’ve received has been beyond anything I could ever imagine.

When you see the suffering, especially of innocents, in Israel, Gaza and Lebanon, what thoughts run through your mind?

I haven’t been to Gaza, but I’ve been to the West Bank plenty. I lived in Israel. I’ve been to southern Lebanon and met with Hezbollah militants, actually. Most people don’t want suffering. I have a bias. I’m not going to act like I don’t. But I try to always see other perspectives and understand other perspectives.… I’ve gotten to know the Lebanese people through my time in Lebanon and know the Palestinian people through my time in the Palestinian territories. I’ve certainly gotten to know the Israeli people. They’re all beautiful people. What’s happening is really, really, really tragic. …[My hope is] that folks in those three areas might be saying, “We need leadership that puts our needs first and puts our lives first.”

(David Guttenfelder | The New York Times) Residents on Tuesday, Oct. 1, 2024, retrieve salvageable items from the rubble of a building destroyed by an Israeli airstrike in Ain el-Delb, a Palestinian refugee camp on the outskirts of the coastal city of Sidon, Lebanon.

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What would be a theological response as opposed to a political response?

In the [biblical] Book of Jonah, Jonah badly wants the city of Nineveh to be destroyed. Yet the people of Nineveh listen to Jonah and change their ways, and God does not destroy the city. You’d think Jonah would be happy. He’s not happy. He wanted to see Nineveh be completely destroyed, and God chastises him for this. And we also read elsewhere in the Hebrew Bible that we’re not supposed to celebrate our enemies’ downfall and that we are supposed to take all measures to prevent the loss of innocent life. So for us, as Jews, we need to make sure that we maintain our humanity in this, that we don’t forget that the people over in Gaza or southern Lebanon are people, that they’re just like us and that we cannot celebrate their suffering.

Do you have hopes for peace anytime soon?

I do. Israel has been held in this political lock with only [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu being the main source of power for the last 15 years. I think that Israelis are ready to get rid of him and that we need fresh thinking over there.…Hopefully, with these Israeli operations in southern Lebanon and Gaza, it could set both Hamas and Hezbollah back far enough that there won’t be wars for a good while. That’s my hope and prayer.

With this new year, what’s your concluding message?

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Fred Rogers, a la “Mr. Rogers,” famously said after 9/11, to “look for the helpers” when things are scary and bad. This past year has been very lonely for many. There were a lot of people we thought would be there for us who were not, a lot of people who we thought were friends, who were not, and a lot of people who did step up for us. And so a message that I have for folks is that it’s not good for a person to be alone. So what can you do to step up and be part of the solution for somebody else, and, in doing so, also remove your own loneliness? …Part of the problem with the Yom Kippur sometimes is we sit and focus on those who have wronged us, and a lot of times, people are not thinking as much about who they have to apologize to. We need to spend as much, if not more, time thinking about those who have not let us down, those who have been our friends, those who have reached out, and also how we can follow in that example.

To hear the full podcast, go to sltrib.com/podcasts/mormonland. To receive full “Mormon Land” transcripts, along with our complete newsletter and exclusive access to all Tribune religion content, support us at Patreon.com/mormonland.

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Voices: America at 250 could use a little more Utah

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Not only the Utah that we are today, but the Utah that we can choose to become.

(Rick Egan | The Salt Lake Tribune) Gabriel Meneses makes one of the limited edition flags for the United States 250th anniversary at Colonial Flag in Sandy on Monday, June 1, 2026.



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President Trump expected to reduce the size of Utah monuments

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  • President Donald Trump is expected to sign executive orders reducing the size of Utah’s Grand Staircase-Escalante and Bears Ears national monuments on Monday.
  • The monuments have shifted in size between administrations, with Trump reducing them in 2017 and President Joe Biden restoring their original boundaries in 2021.
  • Environmental groups and Utah officials are divided over the potential reduction, with critics threatening legal challenges and supporters seeking more local control.

President Donald Trump plans to sign an executive order on Monday afternoon shrinking the size of two national monuments in Utah, which currently cover a combined 5,094 square miles, the Deseret News confirmed on background with a Utah source.

The two national monuments — Grand Staircase-Escalante and Bears Ears — have oscillated in size through the previous several presidential administrations.

Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument was created by President Bill Clinton in September 1996. Bears Ears National Monument was created by President Barack Obama in December 2016. Both designations received a mixed reception among Utahns.

In 2017, Trump reduced Bears Ears by about 85% and Grand Staircase by about 46%.

Then when former President Joe Biden took office in 2021, he restored them to their original sizes.

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Trump is expected to sign the executive orders in the Oval Office on Monday at 4:30 EST.

In a statement to the Deseret News on Friday, the White House said, “Any policy announcement will come directly from the President. This reporting about potential executive orders is pure speculation.”

National monument designations place restrictions on what recreational and economic activity residents and visitors can do on the land. The designation also prohibits anyone from pursuing new mining claims, oil and gas leasing, coal exploration or new commercial infrastructure projects.

Tourists look at the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument ion Friday, May 14, 2021. | Laura Seitz, Deseret News

However, the Bureau of Land Management previously found that Bears Ears and Grand Staircase have little to offer in terms of oil and gas potential, the Deseret News previously reported.

For nearly three decades since Clinton designated the first monument, Utah’s federal delegation has asked for reductions in land size for more local control, recreation and grazing.

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Recently, Utah Rep. Celeste Maloy challenged the monument’s resource management plan to return to a plan the first Trump administration outlined in 2020 with help from local Utahns.

However, her bill died after missing a key deadline to make it to the Senate for a vote.

People react to the potential land reduction

Butler Wash Ruins, a cliff dwelling that was built and occupied by the Ancestral Puebloans in about 1200 A.D., can be seen at Bears Ears National Monument on Wednesday, June 4, 2025. The cliff dwelling features multiple habitation, storage and ceremonial structures. | Tess Crowley, Deseret News

Based on an initial report by ABC4, environmental groups are already vocalizing their disapproval over a potential reduction of monument land.

Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance Executive Director Scott Braden described the potential executive order as “unlawful, unwise and unacceptable,” in a press release sent to the Deseret News.

“This action will only bring uncertainty and chaos to places that should instead be protected for their rich biodiversity, unique geology, and remarkable cultural values,” he wrote. Braden said SUWA was preparing to fight the executive order through lawsuits or by lobbying in Congress.

On X, former Utah state Sen. Nate Blouin referenced the land reduction in conjunction with the Babylon Fire, which as of Friday is 25% contained and has covered more than 100,000 acres in southeastern Utah.

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“As the largest wildfire in the U.S. burns pristine landscapes in southeastern Utah, Trump is threatening to shrink both Grand Staircase & Bears Ears National Monuments,” Blouin wrote. “This unprecedented move is happening without input from the region’s ancestral inhabitants.

Ricky Agnew, left, and wife Christy Agnew, right, look at petroglyphs on Newspaper Rock at Bears Ears National Monument on Monday, Dec. 1, 2025. The petroglyphs on Newspaper Rock date back to 1,500 years ago. The older art is attributed to the Basketmaker and Ancestral Puebloan people who inhabited this region from approximately 500 B.C. to 1350 A.D. The more recent petroglyphs are attributed to the Ute people who still live in the Four Corners area. | Tess Crowley, Deseret News



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PROVO — The preliminary hearing for Tyler Robinson is expected to wrap up Friday morning in Provo. But it will still be several weeks before a decision is made on whether there is enough probable cause to bind him over for trial.

Robinson, 23, is charged with 10 crimes, the most serious being aggravated murder, in the death of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk, who was shot and killed on the campus of Utah Valley University on Sept. 10, 2025. A preliminary hearing is held to determine whether there is sufficient probable cause to go to trial on the charges levied against a defendant.

The Utah County Attorney’s Office finished calling their witnesses to testify on Thursday. Robinson’s defense team, who have already called two forensic experts from the FBI and ATF to testify, are expected to call one more on Friday before resting. Robinson has been attempting to cast doubt on the reliability of DNA testing, arguing that test results are subjective.

Prosecutors have objected several times to the line of questioning, arguing that it falls well outside the bounds of what is needed for a preliminary hearing. Even 4th District Judge Tony Graf warned defense attorney Michael Burt on Thursday during one line of questioning, “I feel we are exiting the orbit of probable cause.”

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At the end of a preliminary hearing, both sides typically give closing arguments, and the judge decides if there is enough evidence for a defendant to proceed to trial. On Thursday, Graf granted a defense motion for each side to first submit briefs summarizing their arguments. The state will submit its brief by July 28, followed by the defense’s reply on Aug. 11 and the state’s rebuttal on Aug. 18. After that, another hearing will be held on Sept. 1 for both sides to present their cases in court.

Also on Thursday, portions of the video interview of Robinson’s roommate and boyfriend at the time of Kirk’s death, Lance Twiggs, were shown to the courtroom after much debate.

In addition, screenshots of the text messages exchanged between Twiggs and Robinson, a note Robinson left for Twiggs and messages on Discord that Robinson allegedly sent to his friend group prior to turning himself in, were all displayed in court.

For each piece of evidence introduced during the week-long hearing, Graf has had to decide:

  1. Whether to admit that evidence into the record;
  2. Whether that evidence should be shown to everyone in the courtroom;
  3. Whether that evidence can be filmed by the livestream camera broadcasting the hearing.

Robinson’s defense team remains adamant that broadcasting evidence to people outside the courtroom will jeopardize their client’s right to a fair trial by prejudging a future jury pool. Prosecutors want the evidence shown to everyone for the sake of transparency. Graf has compromised on several pieces of evidence by allowing them to be displayed to people in the courtroom but not on the livestream feed.

The extended debates over what evidence can be shown to the public and what is only viewed by attorneys and the judge have prompted Jeff Neiman, the attorney for Erika Kirk and the Kirk family, to address the courtroom several times, both in person and in a briefing filed Wednesday night, calling on the court to make all evidence public.

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“For 10 months, the victim’s family has waited for this preliminary hearing. Erika Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk, and his grieving parents traveled to this courtroom for one reason: to be present at these proceedings and to bear witness to the evidence concerning the death of their husband and son. At certain points throughout the preliminary hearing, the Kirk family sat in the room while evidence was admitted but not presented for their viewing. They were present in body, yet denied the very thing their presence was meant to secure: their ability to meaningfully observe the preliminary hearing,” Neiman said. “The victim’s family’s position is simple. At a minimum, every exhibit entered into evidence during the preliminary hearing must be visible to every person lawfully present in the courtroom.”

Erika Kirk and Charlie Kirk’s parents have been in the courtroom all week for the preliminary hearing.

At Neiman’s request, Graf agreed that at the end of court on Friday, he will show to the courtroom only the enhanced UVU surveillance video allegedly showing Robinson’s movements across the roof of the Losee Center and when he drops off the roof and runs to a wooded area off Campus Drive. The video includes moments in which film editors zoom in on the alleged gunman and impose a red circle around him to make it easier to view. The video was originally submitted as evidence but was only shown to Graf and attorneys.

Friday’s hearing begins at 9 a.m. Watch it livestreamed here:

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