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NBA parity debate: Are dynasties and super teams good or bad for the league?
Part V of a five-part series ahead of the 2024-25 NBA season, chronicling how the league reached this era of parity and the key questions that remain.
• Part I | Part II | Part III | Part IV
Going back to the days of George Mikan’s Minneapolis Lakers and continuing through to Stephen Curry’s Golden State Warriors, dynasties have been a hallmark of the NBA.
But perhaps not anymore. Not in the parity era.
For the past week, The Athletic’s reporters have explained how and why dynasties appear to be remnants of the past. And, now, we’re expanding the conversation further.
Why would the NBA want parity? Are dynasties good for the game? And just how wide open is the league?
To answer those questions and more, The Athletic has assembled Darnell Mayberry, who covers the Chicago Bulls; Law Murray, who covers the LA Clippers; and Josh Robbins, who covers the Washington Wizards.
Why do you think the NBA wants parity?
Darnell Mayberry: Parity sells. Just look at the NFL model. The more each fan base believes its team has a chance to win it all, the more interest the NBA will generate. Fans will shell out more money to attend more games and buy more merchandise. From city to city, business will boom. And the NBA, already heavily investing in its in-season NBA Cup to drum up more interest, will lean on marketing a level playing field come playoff time.
The league also continues taking strides to usher in a more competitive — and more compelling — regular season. The NBA recently took measures to curtail incentives for tanking teams. Now, the new collective bargaining agreement targets teams at the top of the standings. It all should help to make the marathon regular season more enjoyable.
Law Murray: I do not believe that the league wants the kind of parity where a broken clock is right twice a day or a garbage can gets a steak. I believe that we should be clear about that part at least. There has to be authentic parity, not artificial parity.
With that said, you never know who may emerge out of the good teams. And parity in the NBA helps to avoid the artificial super teams that highlighted the 2000s and especially the 2010s. (Who are we kidding, though? It’s sports. Someone is always going to find something to complain about.)
Josh Robbins: Darnell makes a convincing case here: Hope sells, and in team sports, hope creates revenue.
To amplify the point, if the answer to all your questions is money — a saying Tony Kornheiser has, for decades, attributed to the late TV executive Don Ohlmeyer — then we shouldn’t underestimate the power of the second apron’s harsh penalties to create a de facto hard cap on team salaries and limit team owners’ expenses. It’s good business to prevent costs from spiraling out of control.
But here’s something else to consider. Adam Silver, wisely, has attempted to turn the NBA into a league that captures fans’ attention for 12 months each year. Because the second apron is so punitive and restrictive and because bad contracts are more onerous than ever, drafting well and making smart roster-construction moves have never been more important. We already know that a large segment of fans have an unquenchable interest in the science of roster building; the new collective bargaining agreement should only heighten that interest and, in turn, help the league further its quest to command fans’ attention. This might not have been one of the rationales behind the new CBA, but heightening year-round interest will be a welcome byproduct.
Because of the new collective bargaining agreement, are super teams a thing of the past?
Mayberry: Don’t bet on it. The CBA can’t stop super teams. Nothing can truly dissuade players from teaming up when they have their hearts set on doing so. Given how much players make now, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a star sacrifice top dollar to get his team a smidgen closer.
We saw a preview with Jalen Brunson inking a team-friendly extension with the New York Knicks this summer. While I don’t envision a star signing anywhere for the minimum, it would be nothing for him to take significantly less to chase a championship on a one-year deal. Somebody somewhere will someday take a massive pay cut to pursue a title. And the rest of the league will be incensed.
Murray: It depends on what we’re calling a super team. Sure, free-agency loopholes helped create The Decision in 2010 and Kevin Durant’s next chapter in 2016. It’s rich when the old heads discuss how they would never have teamed up with their friends or rivals to win earlier in the 1980s. You don’t have to team up when you’re fleecing Ted Stepien’s teams for future first-round picks.
But I digress. There will always be super teams because they’re always going to be subjective. To Darnell’s point, there’s always going to be some owner, front office or even players who don’t care and will challenge the limits of what you can do in terms of team building and earning potential. The real query might be whether or not those bold line steppers get rewarded accordingly or not.
Robbins: With Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal on his roster, the Phoenix Suns’ deep-pocketed Mat Ishbia certainly seems to think super teams can work. The Suns will provide an interesting test case. Can the Phoenix front office surround Durant, Booker and Beal with enough high-level role players to win a title? The CBA is working against them.
But the short answer is no, I don’t think super teams are a thing of the past. In the modern NBA, trades are the new free agency, and the biggest superstars continue to hold tremendous power over their teams.
Would parity in the NBA mean every team is average?
Mayberry: Not necessarily. But it probably depends on the eye of the beholder. One person’s view of parity easily could clash with how another feels about bunched standings. And we’ll always have one or two elite teams, as well as the also-rans who can’t get right.
I thought last year provided a great example of how parity can exist even while the league maintains quality play. Eight franchises from the Eastern Conference won at least 46 games. Ten franchises from the Western Conference won at least 46 games. I view it as quality. I wouldn’t need to look far to find an opposing view.
Murray: I feel like we have to put some more respect on these teams. Wins don’t come in the mail, you have to go out and earn what you get in the NBA. And some teams are going to be built better, players will maintain and establish star status, coaches will coach better. The level of competition is rising, not plateauing. Teams can’t rest as much as they might have at the end of the 2010s. The NBA Cup made the autumn portion of the season more eventful than it had been in years. The Play-In Tournament has made the playoff bubble more interesting. There’s more to play for, and it’s not just because of the collective bargaining agreement. There are still buyers and sellers. No team wants to be in the middle, and the league is set up to accelerate some of these rebuilding efforts. If anything, the “average” teams are even more threatening than they had been in the past.
Robbins: No. A flat-out no. And why’s that? If the last two decades have taught us nothing else about the NBA, it’s that you must have at least one superstar (or, to put it another way, a truly “elite” player) to win a championship. OK, it’s true that six different teams have won the last six NBA titles, and that variety of winners is one measure of parity. But each of those champions — the Raptors, Lakers, Bucks, Warriors, Nuggets and Celtics — featured at least one player who already was considered a superstar when that postseason began; those superstars were Kawhi Leonard, LeBron James, Stephen Curry, Nikola Jokić and Jayson Tatum.
I’m talking about the elite of the elite. The reality is, that uppermost tier of truly great players is composed of so few members that there simply aren’t enough truly great players to populate all 30 teams. So, no, not every team will be average. The teams with elite players will have a chance to separate themselves. The teams without a transcendent player will be so far behind the eight ball that total parity, in which all 30 teams have a chance to win a title, does not, and will not, exist.
Are dynasties good for the NBA?
Mayberry: I don’t like dynasties. I respect them. I appreciate the enormous commitment they require from all corners of any franchise that achieves it. But I don’t have to like dynasties to believe they’re still good for the NBA. It’s almost impossible to argue that they’re not.
The Warriors, Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Pistons and Spurs have all built rabid fan bases in large part because of their dynasty days. The league will always have a robust market of loyal customers whenever a franchise forms a dynasty. Scores of fans here in Chicago (and around the world) still reminisce about the Bulls’ glory days from nearly three decades ago.
Murray: I’m with Darnell on respecting dynasties. But let’s call it what it is. A lot of fans and media want permission to not care about a lot of these teams. I get why some people need dynasties to be interested in the league, and how those dynasties carry crossover appeal. I just feel like that’s a casual approach. I always despised hearing how the league is better when “Team X” is good. I’m over here thinking about “Team Y” and “Team Z,” the ones where I guess the league isn’t at its best when those teams are dominating. If dynasties are good for the NBA, cool. Keep that same energy for the Charlotte Hornets and New Orleans Pelicans dynasties then.
Robbins: Who wouldn’t respect a dynasty? Winning one title is difficult as hell. Winning several titles in a compressed timespan is a remarkable achievement.
But I think it’s more accurate to say that great players facing other great players in as many competitive, high-stakes games as possible is what’s best for the NBA.
Yes, the Magic Johnson/Kareem Adbul-Jabbar Showtime Era Lakers were as close to a dynasty as we saw in the 1980s, but what made them so captivating is that they had to overcome Julius Erving’s 76ers and Larry Bird’s Celtics to make them great. What made those Celtics teams great is that they had to overcome Dr. J’s Sixers in the early ’80s and the Lakers throughout the decade. Isiah Thomas’ “Bad Boys” Pistons had to overcome Bird’s Celtics. And Michael Jordan’s Bulls had to unseat Isiah’s Pistons.
So, sometimes I think hot-take artists emphasize the wrong thing when they say dynasties are good for sports. Great competition and teams bringing out the best in each other is what’s good for sports. And preferably, the more charismatic the players, the better.
With the 2024-25 season just days away, do you think parity exists within the NBA right now?
Mayberry: I do, absolutely. My hunch is that we’ll see the standings jumbled similarly to a season ago. There will be six or seven 50-win teams and a lot more 46-win franchises. The amount of talent that’s now sprinkled across the league has coupled with the power of the 3-point shot to make most nights an unpredictable toss-up.
But my definition of parity starts in June before I work my way backward. The NBA Finals participants, not just the champion, tell the story of parity for me. If the Celtics and Mavericks are the last two standing for the second consecutive season, I’ll change my tune. But I can’t see a rematch coming, or even multiple upcoming finals appearances for either franchise as a safe bet.
New blood in the final round matters, at least for me. It gets old seeing the same stars and the same franchises compete for championships. I’m a fan of this new era of parity.
Murray: Well, this isn’t football or those other sports where you can struggle to score and somehow still win your division after being the worst team in the league the year before. Basketball has a way of getting the cream to rise to the top. Unlike the other sports, scoring is expected. So if you are a bad team, you still aren’t going anywhere except the lottery. I think we should be clear on that. There are levels to this. And if you want to win a championship, you’d still better be a top-three seed. You can still count on one hand and have fingers left over how many teams have won the title without being at least that good.
On the flip side, look at the contenders. Everyone is familiar with the whole last six champions item. It goes deeper than that. No team has repeated as its conference champion either in the last five seasons — 2019 was the last time that the conference finals had four top-three seeds.
So long story short, there is parity to contend. We’re likely to get some random team breaking through to the conference finals in 2025. But if you want to win a title, you have to be good. You also have to show signs of being close to breaking through. The only champions in the last 10 years that didn’t have at least a conference finals appearance in the prior three seasons before winning it all were the 2014-15 Warriors and the 2019-20 Lakers. One of those teams needed another guy to establish a dynasty. And the other team had LeBron James on it, a dynasty unto himself, although one that the Lakers failed to extend beyond the bubble.
Robbins: The league is closer to parity, at least among its top teams. But total championship parity, in which at least half the teams have a legit chance to win the title in a single season, remains unrealistic. We may be living in a golden age of talent, but there just aren’t enough upper-tier players to go around for the majority of times to have a chance to win a championship.
Let’s use this season’s NBA GM Survey as a rough guide here. In the East, league GMs have identified five teams capable of reaching the NBA Finals: the Celtics, Knicks, Sixers, Bucks and maybe the Cavaliers. In the West, there are six: the Mavericks, Timberwolves, Thunder, Nuggets, Grizzlies and Suns. (OK, I know I’m leaving out some teams on the fringes of conference title contention, namely the Magic, Pacers, Pelicans and Warriors.)
Count ’em up, and that’s roughly 11 of the 30 teams capable of winning a conference title.
That’s progress in terms of achieving parity. But it’s not total parity. As Law said, “There are levels to this.” Right now, the upper levels appear to be more inclusive than ever. It’ll be fascinating to see how much wider the group will become.
(Illustration: Meech Robinson / The Athletic; Photos: Patrick T. Fallon / AFP; Nic Antaya / Elsa / Getty Images; John W. McDonough / Sports Illustrated via Getty Images)
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Lakers look to sharpen defensive focus for Suns; could Jarred Vanderbilt be the answer?
The film tells the truth. The Lakers are not a good defensive team, evidenced by the sight of the NBA’s top guards blowing past Lakers defenders into the paint during a 10-game defensive swoon that ranks among the league’s worst.
Yet when coach JJ Redick shows his team the tape and then backs it up with the numbers, there’s still cautious optimism that the Lakers can improve.
“I don’t think there’s anybody in that meeting room that thinks we’re a good defensive team right now,” Redick said, “but I also don’t think there’s anybody in that meeting room who thinks we can’t be a good defensive team. We’ve got to get better.”
In the 10 games since LeBron James returned to the lineup, the Lakers have scored 121.1 points per 100 possessions, a significant increase in their offensive rating of 115.4 during the first 14 games of the season. While their offensive rating ranks fifth in the league during the last 10 games, their 120.9 defensive rating ranks 28th. It’s a dramatic increase from their previous 113.7-point defensive rating.
The most glaring issues are the team’s defense in transition and early in the opponent’s offense, Redick said. The Lakers give up 1.19 points per possession in transition, fifth-worst in the league.
Sunday’s game in Phoenix against the Suns, who scored 28 fast-break points against the Lakers on Dec. 1, will be a significant test as the Lakers (17-7) try to avoid their first losing streak this season.
Led by Luka Doncic, Austin Reaves and the 40-year-old James, the Lakers are not destined to be a fast team on either side of the court. They were outmatched against San Antonio’s dynamic backcourt led by the speedy De’Aaron Fox and Stephon Castle, who combined for 50 points Wednesday as the Spurs scored 27 fast-break points and knocked the Lakers out of NBA Cup contention.
Losses like that exposed the Lakers’ lack of speed on the perimeter, but the team also has shown flashes of excellence against the best guards. The Lakers held 76ers star Tyrese Maxey to five points on two-for-six shooting in the fourth quarter of the Lakers’ four-point win at Philadelphia on Dec. 7.
“It’s less of scheme stuff. A little more of urgency,” guard Gabe Vincent said. “A little more of doing all the little things. If you don’t do them, like I said, there are some great players in this league that will expose you.”
One of the team’s top defensive options is on the bench. Forward Jarred Vanderbilt has played only three minutes in the last 10 games. He entered the game against Philadelphia only after Jake LaRavia took a shot to the face that loosened a tooth.
Vanderbilt, an athletic forward, has been a consistent force on defense during his career but struggles to contribute on offense. While he impressed coaches with how hard he worked in the offseason to improve his shooting and ballhandling, Vanderbilt made only four of 14 three-point shots in the first 14 games. He averaged 5.8 rebounds per game before James returned to the lineup Nov. 18, pushing Vanderbilt to the bench.
Before the Lakers’ last game against the Suns, Redick said part of it was a numbers game with James’ return and felt the team would settle on a nine-man rotation. Vanderbilt had tasks he “needed to be able to do consistently to play” even before James returned, Redick said.
Spurs guard De’Aaron Fox, scoring against Lakers guard Luka Doncic, and teammates continually drove past their defenders during an NBA Cup game Wednesday at Crypto.com Arena.
(Gina Ferazzi / Los Angeles Times)
But making changes at that time was difficult, the coach acknowledged. The Lakers were in the midst of a seven-game winning streak. But they’re 2-3 in the last five games, which have laid their defensive struggles bare, and coaches are “looking at everything.”
“If this continues,” Redick said Friday, “he’ll definitely get his opportunities.”
After practice Friday, Vanderbilt stayed on the court shooting extra three-pointers with staff members.
Etc.
The Lakers assigned guard Bronny James to the G League on Friday.
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Philip Rivers’ former teammate expresses one concern he has with 44-year-old’s return to Colts
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There is a good chance Philip Rivers sees some action on Sunday when the Indianapolis Colts take on the Seattle Seahawks in a must-win game for the AFC South team.
Rivers, 44, joined the Colts earlier this week as the team deals with a quarterback crisis. The potential Hall of Famer hasn’t played since the 2020 season, but when the Colts needed him the most, he answered the call and dove into a playbook to get game ready.
But what can any NFL fan think Rivers is going to provide for the Colts at 44? He’s changed so much since the 2020 season, as his opponents on the field. The Seahawks also have one of the best defenses in the league.
Shawne Merriman #56 of the San Diego Chargers walks on the sideline in the game against the Seattle Seahawks on Aug. 15, 2009 at Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego, California. (Stephen Dunn/Getty Images)
Shawne Merriman, Rivers’ former teammate, told Fox News Digital that he expected him to play well but was concerned about one thing.
“It’s a tough week for him to get back. But I’ll tell you this, Phil’s upside was never his athleticism. It was always his competitiveness,” he said. “He’s the most competitive player I’ve ever played with, that’s one. And two, it was his preparation and his mental and his knowledge of the game of football. Those two things would always got Philip to be that elite quarterback. It was that. So, it’s not gonna be that much different as far as him moving around the pocket.
“The concern I do have is you can’t replicate football without playing it. So, you can have a coach out there, I’m sure he was throwing the football around with his high school kids. I’m sure that he was working out, but you can’t replicate football. So, I think he’s gonna go out there and look good. I think he’s gonna go out there and actually look like he did five years ago.”
When the rumors started that Rivers was potentially going to come to Indianapolis for a workout, Merriman said he wasn’t surprised.
Philip Rivers #17 of the Los Angeles Chargers looks for an open receiver during the third quarter against the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium on Dec. 29, 2019 in Kansas City, Missouri. (David Eulitt/Getty Images)
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The former San Diego Chargers star said when he spoke to Rivers during Antonio Gates’ Hall of Fame induction ceremony, it didn’t feel like the quarterback was completely finished with the game.
“I wasn’t shocked. And, this is why – a couple of years ago, I put on Twitter that Phil was still ready to play and this was I think in 2023,” he said. “And everybody’s like, ‘What? Well, yeah, right.’ He’s been gone out of the game I think three years at that point and then literally a week later or two, it pops up that the San Francisco 49ers, their quarterback situation with all their injuries, that they were thinking about bringing in Philip. And I said, I told you.
“I had a conversation with Philip and he didn’t say, ‘Oh, I’m coming back to play,’ but when you talked to him, it sounded like he was ready. It sounded like he was talking about the game in the present moment.”
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Merriman said he got together with Rivers and Drew Brees during Antonio Gates’ Hall of Fame induction ceremony and it didn’t like Rivers was exactly finished with football.
“So, I’m not surprised at all and it’s the right decision by the Indianapolis Colts.”
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UCLA’s Donovan Dent could be rounding into form just in time for Gonzaga showdown
Sometimes even Donovan Dent needs to be told he’s Donovan Dent.
“I just keep reminding him of who he is,” Skyy Clark said of his message to his UCLA teammate who has been pushing through a tough opening stretch as a Bruin.
The most highly coveted point guard in the transfer portal, Dent arrived on campus with the pedigree of an All-American honorable mention who was expected to immediately elevate his new team. Among his many talents were strong three-point shooting and an ability to blow by defenders to the rim.
He’s been looking more like that version of himself the last few games after a slow, injury-marred first month, a trajectory the No. 25 Bruins (7-2) will need to continue Saturday night at Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle if they hope to beat No. 8 Gonzaga (9-1).
“He’s been showing a lot of flashes of who he is as a person, as a player, and we’re all rooting for him,” Clark said. “I think it’s only going to get better.”
Having a week between games might help. UCLA coach Mick Cronin said he’s been working with Dent on his shooting form, which curiously has been an issue for someone who made 40.9% of his three-pointers and 78.4% of his free throws last season at New Mexico.
Those numbers have dipped considerably, Dent making just one of 13 three-pointers (7.7%) to go with 62.8% of his free throws. He barely was making half of his free throws before a recent stretch in which he’s converted 10 of 13.
Perhaps the biggest concern has been Dent’s inability to embarrass defenders like he did as a Lobo.
UCLA guard Donovan Dent drives to the basket against Oregon forward Dezdrick Lindsay, left, and center Ege Demir, right, during the Bruins’ 74-63 win on Dec. 6.
(Jessie Alcheh / Associated Press)
“In the Mountain West, he was able to get to the rim in a way that he’s not able to get to the rim at our level, it’s just not going to happen,” Cronin said. “At the high level, it’s really hard. You can’t finish on some of the big guys you could finish on in that league — maybe in the bottom half of the league, you could just take everybody to the rim. First of all, they allow you to bump the dribbler; it’s more physical the higher up you go — it just is. It’s not a knock on it, it’s just the way it is. You know, the Power Four leagues now plus the Big East, the physicality is amazing.
“And in the NBA you can’t blow on a guy, but in college, it’s physical, and that’s what people try to do is beat him up, that’s the game plan. And everybody has the same game plan, like, we know, we talk to people, be physical, beat him up, be as physical as you can with him.”
Cronin said he’s been encouraged by what he’s seen over the last two games, in which Dent averaged 15 points and 5.5 assists with 3.0 turnovers while leading the Bruins to victories over Washington and Oregon. He’s also put abdominal and lower-leg injuries behind him.
That’s not to say that Dent can’t boost his game another notch or two.
“He’s got to have more confidence in his three-point shot, his pull-up shot and focusing on his defense on the ball, using his quickness for that,” Cronin said. “So there’s just different ways he can affect the game, which is going to be [key] for him to have a [professional] career anyway. He’s been pushing through it, he’s been working on it, I thought the last couple of games his effort’s been great.”
If Dent needed a template for perseverance amid high expectations as a transfer, he could find it in Clark. After arriving from Louisville, Clark struggled with his shooting and never scored in double figures over his first nine games as a Bruin.
Then came a 15-point breakthrough against Arizona in mid-December and an 11-point, nine-rebound, seven-assist showing two weeks later in a victory over Gonzaga.
“I had a slow start last year when I first came here and then as the season went on it started to get a little [better],” Clark said. “So, I just keep telling him about that and keep sticking with it.”
Money matters
Cronin said UCLA raised more money playing in neutral-site games against Arizona, California and Gonzaga than it would have by participating in the Players Era Festival.
“They raise money for our program to buy players,” Cronin said of neutral-site games with a laugh. “I mean, everybody else can talk about recruiting, you know, write about why kids pick schools — I don’t have time for it. I’m too old, I’ve done enough, it’s comical. We’re semipro, our guys do go to school, [but] guys pick schools because they get paid, so these neutral-site games help raise money. So next spring, when we sign a guy in the portal and you go interview him and he tells you he really bonded with me, and I’ve known him for two weeks,” you’ll know why he signed.
Etc.
Cronin, on the scheduled 8:30 p.m. start time against Gonzaga: “I mean, it’s ridiculous. I mean, why don’t we just play at midnight? … My dad’s real happy about it. He’s 84, he’s gonna have to take two naps on Saturday to be able to watch us play Saturday night.” … Cronin said the Bruins would honor UCLA alumnus Dave Roberts, manager of the two-time defending World Series champion Dodgers, at a home game this season. … Six years after he uprooted his family from Cincinnati, Cronin said he would be happy to assist new UCLA football coach Bob Chesney with the logistics of moving across the country to Los Angeles: “I don’t know anything about football, but I can help him on where to live and just have his wife call us, we’ll help her.”
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