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The following is a transcript of an interview with Sen. Chris Van Hollen, Democrat of Maryland, that aired on March 17, 2024.


MARGARET BRENNAN: We’re joined now by Maryland Democrat, Senator Chris Van Hollen. Senator, a lot to get to with you but I do know you met with some families of hostage members, this past- family members of hostages, excuse me, this past week. Talks are about to resume. What did the hostage families tell you?

SEN. CHRIS VAN HOLLEN: Well, they- they came and talked about the- the terror every day of not knowing what’s happening to their family members. And they were very clear, we need to focus on getting the hostages back and a ceasefire. And this is why I’m for a ceasefire and the return of the hostages.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And that ceasefire would also allow for aid to move in. That’s what the Biden administration is championing. I want to go to some specific things that I know you’re focusing on. There’s this government funding debate happening in the next few days. Some Republicans want to cut off support for the UN agency, UNRWA, that supports about 6 million Palestinian refugees, Lebanon, Jordan, Gaza Strip, West Bank. You said last week, senators need to read the classified report prepared by the Director of National Intelligence about the Netanyahu government claims about that agency. You seem to be implying that the links to terror groups are unfounded.

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SEN. VAN HOLLEN: Oh, there’s no doubt that the- the claim that Prime Minister Netanyahu and others are making, that somehow UNRWA is a proxy for Hamas, are just flat out lies. That’s a flat out lie. If you look at the person who’s in charge of operations on the ground in Gaza for UNRWA, it’s about a 20 year U.S. Army veteran. You can be sure he is not in cahoots with Hamas. Netanyahu has wanted to get rid of UNRWA since at least 2017. That’s been his goal, not just in Gaza, but also in the other places you talked about. And if you get rid of UNRWA in Gaza today, it is the primary distribution system for food and aid. So if you cut off funding for UNRWA and Gaza entirely, it means more people will starve, more people won’t get the medical assistance they need. And so it would be a huge mistake to cut them off.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Can you explain why you believe that the Prime Minister is trying to dismantle UNRWA, which is the agency that has 13,000 people distributing aid? No one else has that kind of infrastructure in Gaza.

SEN. VAN HOLLEN: Well, that’s exactly right. And there have been allegations made by the Netanyahu government that up to 14 of those 13,000 people were involved in the horrific October 7 attacks. We should investigate it, we should hold all those people accountable. But for goodness sakes, let’s not hold 2 million innocent Palestinian civilians who are dying of starvation, let’s not hold them, essentially, accountable for the bad acts of 14 people. Netanyahu has wanted to get rid of UNRWA because he has seen them as a- a means to continue the hopes of the Palestinian people for a homeland of their own. And he has been opposed to a two state solution. And this has been his primary objective, stopping a two state solution.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Back in February, you pushed the Biden administration to craft what ended up being a National Security Memorandum that requires countries who receive U.S. weapons, all countries, to certify that they are in compliance with U.S. law, and they are not blocking the delivery of humanitarian aid. Israel has until March 24 to turn in a letter, they reportedly did so. Are they in compliance? 

SEN. VAN HOLLEN: No they’re not, not as of today. And you’re right. This is a very important tool that the Biden administration’s put forward, applies to Israel and any other country that receives U.S. military assistance.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: Will President Biden’s administration say that they’re not in compliance? Are you confident?

SEN. VAN HOLLEN: I hope they will, because President Biden himself has repeatedly said that the Netanyahu government is unnecessarily restricting desperately needed humanitarian assistance. I mean, the President has said it a number of times, he’s said no excuses. So it may be that the Minister of Defense in Israel signed this. But I cannot imagine a scenario right now, where Secretary Blinken can find that that promise is credible and reliable when the day it was signed, clearly the Netanyahu government is not in compliance, because we see that they’re continuing to restrict humanitarian assistance.

MARGARET BRENNAN: We’ll watch to see if Secretary Blinken affirms it or denies it. But what’s the consequence here? I know you’ve said you don’t want to cut off all military support for Israel. You’re talking about offensive weapons.

SEN. VAN HOLLEN: Yes, this- this would not apply to the Iron Dome or any defensive systems but it would say, you know, no more bombs for use in Gaza until you come into compliance. So It’s not a total cut off. I mean, the Netanyahu government can open the Erez Crossing to help starving people in northern Gaza. They can stop turning away maternity kits, you know, claiming that somehow they pose a dual use danger that they could be used for military purposes, they could stop turning away water purifiers. Because when they do that they send the whole truck back for four weeks. So they need to allow more assistance in, and they need to really deal with that deconfliction issue. People need to be able to deliver assistance without getting killed.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, and the U.S. Ambassador David Satterfield, who works for the Biden administration, has said that police have been hit while helping UN convoys be delivered. Do you believe that the Israeli government’s deliberately targeting to stop humanitarian aid deliveries? Because the Israeli government denies that.

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SEN. VAN HOLLEN: Well, we know in the case of, I think about six of the so-called blue helmeted, you know, security escorts, that they were targeted, because Israel claimed that they were part of Hamas when they were sort of- so- so we know in that case, that was a deliberate targeting. But you’re right. There have been other cases where Israel has- has, you know, used force, and a convoy, for example, in the north passed the inspection and then was hit by a naval missile. I do want to point out also, Margaret, that Ambassador Satterfield has said very clearly that when it comes to UN provided humanitarian assistance, like humanitarian assistance through UNRWA, there’s been no evidence of diversion to Hamas. 

MARGARET BRENNAN: And that–

SEN. VAN HOLLEN: So he’s said this very, very clearly.

MARGARET BRENNAN: –and all of Congress has received that information?

SEN. VAN HOLLEN: I have tried to tell my colleagues who keep coming back from meeting with Netanyahu government officials spreading this- this lie, this myth about diversion from UNRWA. Now there may be diversion in other places, but not from UNRWA.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: Senator, we’ll watch what happens in the coming days. We’ll be back in a moment.



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A Baltimore nonprofit run by a Maryland lawmaker received more than $100 million in taxpayer dollars while auditors repeatedly flagged problems with its financial reporting and internal oversight, according to a Spotlight on Maryland investigation.

Del. Dana Stein, a Baltimore County Democrat, has worked as the executive director of Civic Works for roughly two decades while serving in the statehouse. Civic Works, which has received about $145 million in taxpayer funding since 2016, runs workforce, housing, environmental and community revitalization programs, primarily in the Baltimore area.

Stein earns more than $200,000 annually at Civic Works and has served in the General Assembly since 2007. He chairs the Maryland House environmental subcommittee. Civic Works receives government funding for programs involving weatherization, energy efficiency, clean-energy workforce development and environmental projects.

Stein insisted he goes through the proper process of reporting conflicts of interest to the State House and recusing himself from relevant votes. Meanwhile, critics say that State House policies are not enough to prevent Stein from taking advantage of his legislative influence over billions of taxpayer dollars, especially amid ongoing audit struggles at his organization.

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A Spotlight on Maryland analysis of the nonprofit’s federal single audits—the annual audits required for organizations that spend at least $750,000 in federal funds—shows Civic Works received about $145 million in taxpayer funding between 2016 and 2025. Government funding averaged about $14.5 million per year and accounted for roughly 80% of the organization’s support during that period when stacked against private donations.

Audits show that federal funds were passed through to Civic Works by an extensive list of agencies within the Maryland and Baltimore City governments.

In 2006, the year before Stein took office, Civic Works received $1.9 million in government grants, according to IRS tax filings. By 2016, Civic Works received $8.2 million in government grants—a roughly 330% increase over a decade.

IRS tax filings from Civic Works show Stein earned about $96,000 in 2014 and approximately $231,000 in 2024—an increase of about 140%.

Maryland Del. Brian Chisholm, an Anne Arundel County Republican, questioned the ethics of Stein making more than $200,000 at a taxpayer-funded nonprofit as he works in the State House. He also questioned how Stein could manage tens of millions of taxpayer dollars while he worked full-time as a lawmaker for roughly a quarter of the year.

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“I think it’s a waste of taxpayer money, in my opinion, because I don’t see the return on investment,” he told Spotlight on Maryland. “I would assume they’re political payoffs It goes back to the dawn of time when we first got into politics and power. How do you influence politics? You influence with money.”

What the audits found

The most recent single audit, covering fiscal 2025, reported a significant deficiency in financial reporting at Civic Works—a repeat finding from the previous year. Auditors said Civic Works had to correct more than $2.2 million in financial records after auditors identified errors in the organization’s financial records. Civic Works told auditors it implemented new grant-tracking and financial reporting procedures in response.

Auditors also determined the nonprofit did not qualify for the federal government’s low-risk auditee designation.

The 2024 audit identified both a significant deficiency and a material weakness, a more severe audit finding. Auditors said the organization’s initial federal expenditures schedule omitted programs, misclassified expenditures and left off about $1 million in federal spending before it was corrected. Auditors again determined Civic Works did not qualify as a low-risk auditee.

The pattern stretches back years. In 2023, auditors reported a material weakness involving lease accounting and financial reporting that resulted in a restatement of prior-year balances. In 2021, auditors reported a material weakness involving revenue recognition and accounting, resulting in another financial restatement.

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In 2019, auditors identified a significant deficiency involving federal grant compliance after required documentation for an employee background check could not be produced. In 2017, auditors reported a significant deficiency after required federal grant reports were submitted without documented review.

Linda Parsons, a professor at The University of Alabama focused on nonprofit accounting, said the repeated audit findings, paired with a determination that Civic Works is not a low-risk auditee, show the organization should not continue to receive taxpayer dollars.

“I would be particularly careful with this organization if I were providing grant funding,” she told Spotlight on Maryland. “What I see is that a lawmaker with influence and power in the granting process is moving increasingly large grants to an organization with which that lawmaker is affiliated, and that there’s trouble with the reports that are overseeing the use of those grants.”

Chisholm agreed that Civic Works should not receive any more taxpayer money.

“I think they need to be looked at with a fine-tooth comb. Why are you failing so many audits, and do you actually deserve the millions of dollars?” he told Spotlight on Maryland. “The funding should dry up at some point because you can’t prove that you’re spending the public’s money in a responsible way.”

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Civic Works responds

A spokeswoman for Civic Works emailed Spotlight on Maryland a statement on behalf of the organization and Stein, emphasizing that the lawmaker takes necessary steps to ensure there is not a conflict of interest between his two jobs.

“Since his election in 2006, Mr. Stein has regularly consulted with the legislature’s ethics adviser to avoid actual and potential conflicts between his legislative and non-profit roles. He has always followed the ethics adviser’s advice regarding disclosure of potential conflicts and actual recusal on votes. He has disclosed and disclaimed potential or appearances of a conflict and those forms are on the Maryland General Assembly website,” the Civic Works spokeswoman wrote.

“Mr. Stein has followed all advice from the legislature’s ethics adviser regarding recusal from matters that would create a conflict of interest between his legislative and non-profit roles. He does not interact with government officials in matters related to procurements or negotiation of contracts,” she added.

Salary spending increases 100%

IRS filings show Civic Works expanded rapidly in recent years amid audit struggles. The nonprofit reported 286 employees in 2020 and 347 employees in 2024—a roughly 21% increase—while spending on salaries increased from $5.8 million to $12 million—a roughly 100% increase. Payroll accounted for between 58% and 68% of annual spending during those years.

Stein lists his position with Civic Works on his financial disclosure statement. His disclosure also lists the state agencies from which his nonprofit receives funding.

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Stein filed a Form D disclaimer of an apparent or presumed conflict of interest this year, noting that while Civic Works has a partnership with BGE, he is “able to participate in legislative action relating to the above fairly, objectively, and in the public interest.”

Since 2013, Stein has filed 25 Form E statements of recusal from voting and other legislative actions due to a reported conflict of interest arising from his employment with Civic Works. However, the last recusal he reported was in 2023, even though his organization received taxpayer dollars from the Maryland government in subsequent years.

‘Accountable to the public’

Parsons said that while Stein may be following legally required conflict-of-interest policies, he still has a concerning level of influence over the grantmaking process.

“The conflict of interest, that to me is probably the most troubling thing,” she told Spotlight on Maryland. “If you have an individual that’s in charge of a nonprofit that’s also elected to office, that’s not necessarily a problem. But when money is steered toward that organization and increasing amounts at all levels, then I would want to know who’s making sure that this is operating properly.”

A spokeswoman for Maryland Gov. Wes Moore’s office emailed a statement to Spotlight on Maryland that emphasized the federal single audits of Civic Works do not assess how state funding is spent. Maryland state agencies, she wrote, have their own individual oversight mechanisms in place.

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“The Moore-Miller administration is committed to ensuring every dollar of taxpayer funding is awarded fairly, spent responsibly, and accountable to the public,” Moore’s spokeswoman wrote.

Several agencies within the Maryland government provided written statements to Spotlight on Maryland detailing various individual oversight policies for programs they fund at Civic Works. The Maryland agencies stated that no action has been taken in response to findings in Civic Works’ federal single audits.

$1 lease in Baltimore

Civic Works operates at Clifton Mansion, the former estate of philanthropist Johns Hopkins. The nonprofit has a lease agreement with Baltimore City that allows them to pay just $1 per year to use, maintain and renovate the property.

Additionally, Civic Works has received $13.5 million in taxpayer dollars through the Baltimore City government since August 2022, according to a government database. This included $4.5 million in taxpayer dollars from the Baltimore City Health Department to Civic Works from 2022 to 2024, described in the database as being for “Coronavirus.”

A spokesperson for Baltimore City Mayor Brandon Scott’s office emphasized that the city “employs best practices for grant administration, signing grant agreements that ensure transparency and accountability.”

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The spokesperson noted that recent federal audits of Civic Works “identified no material weaknesses or significant deficiencies in internal controls over federal programs, finding that Civic Works complied with all requirements that could have a material effect on its major federal programs.”

The mayor’s office did not respond to additional questions on audit concerns at Civic Works regarding financial reporting and scheduled expenditures for federal awards.

Civic Works is partnered with Baltimore City Public Schools to operate the “Reach! Partnership School,” which prepares students for college and careers. The 2025 federal single audits revealed the organization received $9.7 million from Baltimore City Public Schools that year. Reach is incorporated separately but included in the audits because Civic Works manages the organization.

A spokeswoman for City Schools said they consider federal audit findings as part of their oversight of Civic Works.

“We will continue to monitor the Operator’s progress to confirm that the audit issues have been appropriately resolved,” the spokeswoman emailed Spotlight on Maryland. “City Schools will also continue to review audits and other financial documents to ensure the organization is on track and making progress consistent with its Corrective Action plan and regular contractual requirements.”

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Spotlight on Maryland is a joint venture by The Baltimore Sun, FOX45 News and WJLA in Washington, D.C. Have a news tip? Call 410-467-4670 or emailSpotlightOnMaryland@sbgtv.com. Contact Patrick Hauf atpjhauf@sbgtv.comand @PatrickHauf.



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Apple Towson Town Center employees received an endorsement from Maryland Governor Wes Moore in their fight against Apple over the company’s decision to close its first US unionized store. Here are the details.

Apple faces new pressure over Towson store closure

A couple of months ago, Apple announced that its Towson Town Center would close its doors for good on June 20, alongside two other stores located in commercial centers in California and Connecticut.

The Apple Towson Town Center workers have been represented by the IAM Union since 2022, after becoming the first Apple retail store in the US to unionize.

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Soon after the announcement, IAM Union decried Apple’s handling of the store closure. While the company says that the union agreement only requires transfers within 50 miles of the Towson store, with severance offered otherwise, the IAM Union argues that Apple is denying them the broader relocation options available to employees at non-union stores.

Since then, in addition to the pushback from the IAM Union, Apple has also received letters from Maryland lawmakers and, just yesterday, from40 members of Congress, asking it to reconsider closing the store or to provide Towson employees with the same transfer opportunities offered to workers at non-union stores.

Today, Maryland Governor Wes Moore chimed in, manifesting his support for the Towson workers.

Although Governor Moore stopped short of accusing Apple of union-busting practices, as members of Congress did in their letter to the company, he did explicitly call on Apple to give Towson workers the same transfer rights and opportunities afforded to other employees.

Here’s Governor Moore’s statement:

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“The Towson Town Center Apple Store has been a retail anchor for the region since 2022. (…) It’s provided good-paying jobs, increased economic activity, and been an important localized service hub for the region. As the first unionized Apple retail store in the country and a strong-performing location, its workers proved that economic growth and workers’ rights go hand-in-hand. Now, the rug is being pulled out from underneath them. These Marylanders deserve the same transfer rights and opportunities afforded to other Apple employees, and we stand with them.”

The IAM Union praised Governor Moore’s support and called on the company to act before the June 20 deadline.

Apple, for its part, remains silent on the issue, ever since it provided the following statement to 9to5Mac when the IAM Union filed an unfair labor practice charge with the National Labor Relations Board on April 28:

We strongly disagree with the claims made, and we will continue to abide by the agreement that was negotiated and agreed with the union. We look forward to presenting all of the facts to the NLRB.

As of right now, the Apple Towson Town Center’s page says the store will close on June 20 at 8:00 p.m.

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Republican candidate Mariela Roca is making another play for Maryland’s 6th Congressional District. On The Final 5 with Jim Lokay, she talks about her campaign ahead of the June primary, and the lessons she’s learned on the campaign trail.



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