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Guitarist Mike Campbell had a challenging relationship with Tom Petty, but 'love and respect' never wavered

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Heartbreaker

By Mike Campbell
Grand Central Publishing: 464 pages, $32
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In his new memoir, “Heartbreaker,” Mike Campbell recalls an afternoon in the early ’70s when Tom Petty — Campbell’s bandmate in a Gainesville, Fla., cover band called Mudcrutch — played one of his songs. As Petty strummed the chords to his future FM radio staple “Don’t Do Me Like That,” Campbell told Petty, “I’d give my right arm if I could write a song like that.”

Campbell at the time was a gifted guitarist raised by a single mom, trying desperately to pull himself up from poverty by turning pro. When he met Petty, he was working awful minimum-wage jobs and seriously thinking about enlisting in the military. “I wanted to play guitar to avoid getting a real job or joining the Air Force,” says Campbell. “As long as anyone was going to pay me a buck to play, that is what I was gonna do.” Campbell also wrote songs — they were good, not great. Petty, in contrast, wrote well and quickly. Years before either tasted any success with the Heartbreakers, Campbell decided to work hard and work smart: Petty was a standout talent, and Campbell would stay the course with him.

Campbell became one of rock’s greatest sidemen — the man to the left of Petty onstage during the entire 40-plus-year run of the Heartbreakers’ career, right up to their final show at the Hollywood Bowl on Sept. 25, 2017, a week before Petty’s death at 66. It was a role he spent years cultivating.

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“Heartbreaker” is a tale of endurance and patience rewarded. In short order, Petty became, well, Tom Petty, and Campbell became a guitar god. A master of the perfect guitar part, Campbell’s ringing solos are tattooed on our brains as indelibly as Petty’s playful snarl. They worked so well together that when Petty made solo albums outside the band, he enlisted Campbell to write, produce and play. “You cross paths with somebody and you make a left or a right turn, and it can define your whole life,” says Campbell from his home in Woodland Hills. “If I hadn’t met Tom, or if I had quit early when things got hard, I don’t know where my life would have gone.”

Things were difficult for years as musicians slipped in and out of Mudcrutch, and the band put in the hard miles — playing hundreds of bar gigs across the South, searching for the right alchemy that would distinguish it from every other excellent cover band in Florida. There was a cavernous Gainesville bar called Dub’s, and the group played there nightly for weeks on end, occasionally throwing in one of Petty’s chiming, Byrds-inflected originals. “Back then,” Campbell writes, “everybody was trying to sound like the Allman Brothers. Nobody was playing … short songs with sweet harmonies and big choruses.”

The band played for drunk and angry bikers, accompanied wet T-shirt contests, engaged in screaming matches with greedy club owners. Some frustrated band members dropped out; Campbell knew better. He knew Petty was his golden ticket. “We were young and we had a dream,” says Campbell. “We weren’t really convinced we would get anywhere, but we dreamed of it.”

Mike Campbell sits up in his classic Porsche and holds his guitar in the air.

“I was never going to compete with him for leadership,” Mike Campbell says of Tom Petty, “but I could be the guy filling in the gaps. I could drive him and make him better.”

(Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times)

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According to Campbell, Petty, only 19 at the time, arrived fully formed. Blustery, self-confident and bursting with ideas, Petty was always thinking five moves ahead of everyone else in the band. “He had the ambition and the drive to do something great and not get sidetracked or settle for less,” says Campbell. “But in many ways, we were a lot alike, especially in terms of what music we loved.” It was Petty who knocked on record label doors with a demo tape in his pocket, until Shelter Records President Denny Cordell discovered him and launched the band. “I was never going to compete with him for leadership,” says Campbell, “but I could be the guy filling in the gaps. I could drive him and make him better.”

Perhaps more than anything, “Heartbreaker” is a primer on how to effectively work in a band with an alpha male. Campbell learned how to become a conciliator and a mediator — how to let trivial gripes die, to smooth things over for the greater good, to not let greed get in the way of the big picture. Petty could be volatile and erratic — he knew he was the straw that stirred the drink — but he always encouraged Campbell to write.

“Tom was extremely confident,” says Campbell. “I had songs of my own, so I followed him and contributed the best I could.” Rather than force-feed his songs into the group, Campbell would gently nudge Petty with a cassette of skeletal chord progressions or a refrain or a chorus in the hope that Petty might sniff out a song. That method of collaboration would yield classics, but not without some trepidation on Campbell’s part.

“At first, I was unsure about my writing,” says Cambpell. “I like to hone my writing before I show it to anyone, even my wife. There were times when Tom would take a long time before listening to my stuff, but then he would come up with something incredible. I prefer that to sitting eyeball to eyeball with someone in a room..”

Petty and the Heartbreakers blew up in 1976 when their self-titled debut album yielded the anthems “American Girl” and “Breakdown,” but as the stakes got higher, so did the internal and external pressures. Campbell did his level best to ensure that cooler heads would prevail, that the band wouldn’t collapse under the weight of expectations.

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Mike Campbell and Tom Petty of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers play guitar on stage.

Mike Campbell, left, and Tom Petty of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers perform at San Francisco’s Old Waldorf Nightclub in 1977.

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1979’s “Damn the Torpedoes” was the first of their mega-selling albums, but it almost broke the band. As Campbell recalls in his memoir, producer Jimmy Iovine and his engineer Shelly Yakus pushed everyone so hard in the studio that it began to feel like psychological warfare. Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch bore the brunt of the torture; on numerous occasions, Lynch stormed out of the studio, only to be coaxed back when no one else worked out (Lynch left the band in 1994).

Campbell recalls playing at least 70 takes of “Refugee,” a song that began life as a Campbell riff before Iovine, Yakus and Petty signed off on it. “It was not easy because Tom was very direct and he didn’t suffer fools, and he pretty much told the truth,” says Campbell. “There was just a lot of pressure to be great.”

There was also the issue of money. Early on, the Heartbreakers’ first manager, Elliot Roberts, laid it out in no uncertain terms: Petty would receive 50% of the profits and the band would split the other half. This arrangement, according to Campbell, created ill will for years with Heartbreakers keyboardist Benmont Tench. At one point during the “Torpedo” sessions, Campbell and Petty exchanged words about Campbell wanting a larger cut for his work, to which Petty uttered three words: “I’m Tom Petty.” End of discussion.

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“To be fair, Tom gave me a huge cut on ‘Full Moon Fever,’” says Campbell in reference to Petty’s multiplatinum 1989 solo album. “There was a generous side to him too.”

More importantly, Petty and Campbell would co-write songs that millions of people now know by heart: “You Got Lucky,” “Refugee,” “Here Comes My Girl.” As Petty accepted more songs from Campbell, Campbell’s confidence as a songwriter blossomed, and he branched out beyond the band, co-writing with Don Henley the megahits “The Boys of Summer” and “The Heart of the Matter.” “Tom made me believe in myself,” says Campbell. “We were always able to talk through stuff and come back to love and respect. That’s why we stayed together for so long.”

Mike Campbell stands in front of a room full of guitar cases.

Mike Campbell at home in Woodland Hills.

(Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times)

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Kurt Cobain’s Fender, Beatles drum head among $1-billion collection going to auction

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In the summer of 1991, Nirvana filmed the music video for “Smells Like Teen Spirit” on a Culver City sound stage. Kurt Cobain strummed the grunge anthem’s iconic four-chord opening riff on a 1969 Fender Mustang, Lake Placid Blue with a signature racing stripe.

Nearly 35 years later, the six-string relic hung on a gallery wall at Christie’s in Beverly Hills as part of a display of late billionaire businessman Jim Irsay’s world-renowned guitar collection, which heads to auction at Christie’s, New York, beginning Tuesday. Each piece in the Beverly Hills gallery, illuminated by an arched spotlight and flanked by a label chronicling its history, carried the aura of a Renaissance painting.

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Irsay’s billion-dollar guitar arsenal, crowned “The Greatest Guitar Collection on Earth” by Guitar World magazine, is the focal point of the Christie’s auction, which has split approximately 400 objects — about half of which are guitars — into four segments: the “Hall of Fame” group of anchor items, the “Icons of Pop Culture” class of miscellaneous memorabilia, the “Icons of Music” mixed batch of electric and acoustic guitars and an online segment that compiles the remainder of Irsay’s collection. The online sale, featuring various autographed items, smaller instruments and historical documents, features the items at the lowest price points.

A portion of auction proceeds will be donated to charities that Irsay supported during his lifetime.

The instruments of famous musicians have long been coveted collector’s items. But in the case of the Jim Irsay Collection, the handcrafted six-strings have acquired a more ephemeral quality in the eyes of their admirers.

Amelia Walker, the specialist head of private and iconic collections at Christie’s, said at the recent highlight exhibition in L.A. that the auction represents “a real moment where these [objects] are being elevated beyond what we traditionally call memorabilia” into artistic masterpieces.

“They deserve the kind of the pedestal that we give to art as well,” Walker said. “Because they are not only works of art in terms of their creation, but what they have created, what their owners have created with them — it’s the purest form of art.”

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Cobain’s Fender was only one of the music history treasures nestled in Christie’s gallery. A few paces away, Jerry Garcia’s “Budman” amplifier, once part of the Grateful Dead’s three-story high “Wall of Sound,” perched atop a podium. Just past it lay the Beatles logo drum head (estimated between $1 million and $2 million) used for the band’s debut appearance on “The Ed Sullivan Show,” which garnered a historic 73 million viewers and catalyzed the British Invasion. Pencil lines were still visible beneath the logo’s signature “drop T.”

A drum head.

Pencil lines are still visible on the drum head Ringo Starr played during the Beatles’ debut appearance on “The Ed Sullivan Show.”

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It is exceptionally rare for even one such artifact to go to market, let alone a billion-dollar group of them at once, Walker said. But a public sale enabling many to participate and demonstrate the “true market value” of these objects is what Irsay would have wanted, she added.

Dropping tens of millions of dollars on pop culture memorabilia may seem an odd hobby for an NFL general manager, yet Irsay viewed collecting much like he viewed leading the Indianapolis Colts.

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Irsay, the youngest NFL general manager in history, said in a 2014 Colts Media interview that watching and emulating the legendary NFL owners who came before him “really taught me to be a steward.”

“Ownership is a great responsibility. You can’t buy respect,” he said. “Respect only comes from you being a steward.”

The first major acquisition in Irsay’s collection came in 2001, with his $2.4-million purchase of the original 120-foot scroll for Jack Kerouac’s 1957 novel, “On the Road.” He loved the book and wanted to preserve it, Walker said. But he also frequently lent it out, just like he regularly toured his guitar collection beginning 20 years later.

A scroll of writing.

Jim Irsay purchased the original 120-foot scroll manuscript of Jack Kerouac’s “On the Road” for $2.4 million in 2001.

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“He said publicly, ‘I’m not the owner of these things. I’m just that current custodian looking after them for future generations,’ ” Walker said. “And I think that’s what true collectors always say.”

At its L.A. highlight exhibition, Irsay’s collection held an air of synchronicity. Paul McCartney’s handwritten lyrics for “Hey Jude” hung just a few steps from a promotional poster — the only one in existence — for the 1959 concert Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and J.P. “The Big Bopper” Richardson were en route to perform when their plane crashed. The tragedy spurred Don McLean to write “American Pie,” about “the day the music died.”

Holly was McCartney’s “great inspiration,” Christie’s specialist Zita Gibson said. “So everything connects.”

Later, the Beatles’ 1966 song “Paperback Writer” played over the speakers near-parallel to the guitars the song was written on.

Irsay’s collection also contains a bit of whimsy, with gems like a prop golden ticket from 1971’s “Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory” — estimated between $60,000 and $120,000 — and reading, “In your wildest dreams you could not imagine the marvelous surprises that await you!”

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Another fan-favorite is the “Wilson” volleyball from 2000’s “Cast Away,” starring Tom Hanks, estimated between $60,000 and $80,000, Gibson said.

Historically, such objects were often preserved by accident. But as the memorabilia market has ballooned over the last decade or so, Gibson said, “a lot of artists are much more careful about making sure that things don’t get into the wrong hands. After rehearsals, they tidy up after themselves.”

If anything proves the market value of seemingly worthless ephemera, Walker added, it’s fans clawing for printed set lists at the end of a concert.

“They’re desperate for that connection. This is what it’s all about,” the specialist said. It’s what drove Irsay as well, she said: “He wanted to have a connection with these great artists of his generation and also the generation above him. And he wanted to share them with people.”

In Irsay’s home, his favorite guitars weren’t hung like classic paintings. Instead, they were strewn about the rooms he frequented, available for him to play whenever the urge struck him.

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Thanks to tune-up efforts from Walker, many of the guitars headed to auction are fully operational in the hopes that their buyers can do the same.

“They’re working instruments. They need to be looked after, to be played,” Walker said. And even though they make for great gallery art, “they’re not just for hanging on the wall.”

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After ‘Yellowstone’ and a twist of fate, Luke Grimes rides again as Kayce in ‘Marshals’

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After ‘Yellowstone’ and a twist of fate, Luke Grimes rides again as Kayce in ‘Marshals’

This story contains spoilers for the pilot of “Marshals.”

When the curtain came down on “Yellowstone” last year, Kayce Dutton had finally found his happily-ever-after.

The youngest son of wealthy rancher John Dutton (Kevin Costner) had secured a modest cabin in a mountainous region where he could reside in secluded peace with his beloved wife, Monica (Kelsey Asbille), and son, Tate (Brecken Merrill), far from the turbulent dysfunction of his family.

“Kayce found his little peace of heaven, getting everything he ever wanted and fought for,” said Luke Grimes, who plays the soft-spoken Dutton in “Yellowstone.”

Grimes reprises the role in CBS’ “Marshals,” which premiered Sunday. But in the new series, Kayce’s serenity has been brutally shattered, forcing him to find a new path forward after an unimaginable tragedy.

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The drama is the first of several planned spinoffs of “Yellowstone,” which became TV’s hottest scripted series during its five-season run. And while some familiar faces return and events unfold against the magnificent backdrop of towering mountains and lush greenery, “Marshals” is definitely not “Yellowstone” 2.0.

Luke Grimes as Kayce Dutton in “Marshals,” which combines the gritty Western flavor of “Yellowstone” with the procedural genre.

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In “Marshals,” Kayce joins an elite squad of U.S. Marshals headed by his Navy SEAL teammate Pete Calvin (Logan Marshall-Green). The drama combines two distinct brands — the gritty Western flavor of “Yellowstone” with the procedural genre, a flagship of CBS’ prime-time slate.

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During an interview at an exclusive club in downtown Los Angeles, Grimes expressed excitement about dusting off his cowboy hat and boots, though he admitted to having initial concerns about whether the project was a fit.

“I had never watched a procedural before, so I had to do some homework on what that was,” Grimes said hours before the gala premiere of “Marshals” at the Autry Museum of the American West in Griffith Park. “And I just couldn’t wrap my head around it at first. In the finale, Kayce had ridden off into the sunset. So I thought, ‘Let him be, let him go.’ ”

Those doubts eventually ebbed away.

“To be honest, there was a part of me that didn’t want to let Kayce go just yet,” Grimes said. “Saying goodbye to him was really hard, so the opportunity to keep this going was something I couldn’t pass up. We get to show his backstory and also this other side of him that we didn’t see in ‘Yellowstone.’ ”

But this Kayce is a man in crisis. “Yellowstone” devotees will likely be shocked by the “elephant in the room” — the revelation in the pilot episode that Monica has died of cancer. The couple’s sexy and loving chemistry was a key element in the series while also establishing Grimes as a heartthrob.

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“I think fans will be upset — and they should be,” Grimes said as he looked downward. “Kayce is very upset. It’s the worst thing that could have happened to him. But as much as I’m really upset not to work with Kelsey, it’s a good idea for the show.”

He added, “His dream life is no longer available to him. Now the only thing he has is his son, who is not so sure he wants the same life as Kayce. A big part of the season is Kayce learning how to manage all these new things — new job, being a single father.”

A bearded man with his hands in his jeans looking downward.

“His dream life is no longer available to him. Now the only thing he has is his son, who is not so sure he wants the same life as Kayce,” said Luke Grimes about his character Kayce.

(Jay L. Clendenin / For The Times)

Executive producer and showrunner Spencer Hudnut (CBS’ “SEAL Team”) acknowledged in a separate interview that viewers may be stunned by the tragedy. “Real life intervenes for Kayce. Unfortunately it happens to so many of us.”

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But he stressed that although Monica is physically gone, her presence will be heavily felt this season.

“She is guiding Kayce, and their relationship is moving forward,” Hudnut said. “His dealing with his inability to confront his grief is a big part of the season. It became clear that something horrible had to happen to put Kayce on a different path.”

As the development evolved, Grimes embraced the procedural concept: “This is a very different show and structure. This is an action show, very fast paced. I meet a lot of fans who say they really want to see Kayce go full Navy SEAL.”

Alumni from “Yellowstone” returning in “Marshals” include Gil Birmingham as tribal Chairman Thomas Rainwater and Mo Brings Plenty as his confidante Mo.

“Yellowstone” co-creator Taylor Sheridan, who had already spearheaded the prequels “1883” and “1923,” will further expand the “Yellowstone” universe later this month with “The Madison,” starring Michelle Pfeiffer and Kurt Russell, about a New York City family living in Montana’s Madison River territory. Later this year, Kelly Reilly and Cole Hauser will star in “Dutton Ranch,” reprising their respective “Yellowstone” roles as John Dutton’s volcanic daughter Beth Dutton and her husband, boss ranch hand Rip Wheeler.

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Hudnut said fans of “Yellowstone” will recognize themes that were central to that series: “The cost and consequences of violence, man versus nature, man versus man.”

“We’re trying to tap into what people loved about ‘Yellowstone’ but to tell the story in a different framework,” he said. “The procedural brand is obviously very successful for CBS. And nothing has been bigger than ‘Yellowstone.’ So the challenge is, how do you marry those things?”

Taking on the lead role prompted Grimes to reflect on how “Yellowstone” transformed his life after co-starring roles in films like “American Sniper” and “Fifty Shades of Grey” and playing a vampire in the TV series “True Blood.”

“‘Yellowstone’ changed my life in many, many ways,” he said. “The biggest change is that I now live where we shot the show in Montana. The first time I went there, I would have never thought I would ever live there.

“I would come back to the city after shooting. But a little bit more each year, I felt more out of place here, and more peace and at home there. I’m a big nature person — I never was a big city person, but I had to be here to do what I wanted. But after the third season, my wife and I decided to move there. We wanted to start a family.”

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The topic of a Kayce spinoff kept coming up during the filming of the finale, but “meanwhile we were having a baby, so that was the biggest thing on my plate.”

A man in a blue shirt standing with his arms crossed as horses with saddles graze in the background.

“‘Yellowstone’ changed my life in many, many ways,” said Luke Grimes.

(Jay L. Clendenin/For The Times)

Grimes was also dealing with the off-screen drama that impacted production due to logistical and creative differences between Costner and Sheridan. Costner, who was the show’s biggest attraction, exited after filming the first part of the final season. His character was killed off.

Asked about the backstage tension, Grimes said, “I just tried to do my job to the best of my ability, and not get caught up in all that. It was sort of frustrating, but I felt lucky to have a job.”

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He recalled getting a call from Sheridan about the plans for a spinoff: “He said, ‘I think you should talk to the guy who is going to be the showrunner. I’m not telling you to do it, and I’m not telling you not to do it. But Spencer is great and he has some good ideas.’ ”

Hudnut said Kayce “was always my favorite character. Also, Luke is not Kayce. Kayce is an amazing character, but Luke is really thoughtful and smart. He is a true artist and has an artist’s soul, while Kayce is kicking down doors and terrorizing people. And Luke has such a great presence. He can do so much with just a look to the camera. He is a true leading man.”

In addition to starring in “Marshals,” Grimes is also an executive producer. He pitched the opening sequence — a flashback showing Kayce in the battlefield. He also performs the song that plays over the final scene, in which he visits his wife’s grave. The ballad is from Grimes’ self-titled country album which was released last year.

“Luke’s creative fingerprints are all over the pilot,” Hudnut said.

Grimes said he does not feel pressure about being the first follow-up from “Yellowstone” to premiere.

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“We’re not trying to make the same show, so no matter what happens, its a win-win,” he said. “I had a blast doing it.”

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