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A spread of desserts found in the new cookbook, Malai

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For Pooja Bavishi, ice cream is not just a sweet treat: It’s a mission.

“When I started Malai, the goal was always to change the way that ice cream is perceived in this country,” Bavishi told NPR’s Leila Fadel. “It used to be one of the only categories where you expect to see certain flavors, ” Bavishi said. “But why isn’t it as typical to pull a pint of masala chai as it is to pull a pint of cookies and cream?”

Bavishi is the founder and CEO of Malai, a New York-based ice cream company specializing in South Asian-inspired flavors. The company’s flagship store is in Brooklyn, but it also ships ice cream nationwide. Bivashi’s newest venture is a cookbook with the same name.

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“This book is not at all supposed to be intimidating in either the flavor profile or the technique, ” Bavishi said. “It actually is supposed to be an everyday book. So if you have a dinner party on a weekend or a Tuesday night, and you want to make something really, really delicious and really want to wow your guests, you will turn to Malai.”

The cookbook’s recipes range from apple pie ice cream to orange fennel French toast. The flavors are mainly inspired by South Asian desserts, but Bivashi, who was raised in North Carolina by Indian immigrants, said that her goal is never to just cater to people who like South Asian flavors.

“The point of Malai is not to be the best Indian ice cream that you’ve ever had, ” Bavashi said. “It’s the best ice cream.”

Malai CEO and founder Pooja Bavishi with one of her frozen dessert creations.

Malai CEO and founder Pooja Bavishi with one of her frozen dessert creations.

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NPR’s Morning Edition visited Bavishi at her store in Washington, D.C., to learn more about her new cookbook and her journey to making ice cream for a living.

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This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

Interview highlights

Leila Fadel: I want to start with the name of both your books and also your store. Where did it come from?

Pooja Bavishi: So, Malai, it figuratively means cream of the crop. Malai translates to “the best of something,” but it also means cream. When I started Malai, it was always going to be Indian-inspired ice cream. So it felt like a really appropriate name for the brand.

Fadel: Why ice cream?

Bavishi: Why not ice cream? Ice cream is truly one of the best desserts out there. It’s frozen, it’s creamy, it’s sweet. It’s all the things. There’s literally no one who does not like ice cream.

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South Asian inspired desserts take center stage in a new cookbook titled Malai

South Asian inspired desserts take center stage in a new cookbook titled Malai

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Fadel: I want to get more into the way that you’ve found and chosen your flavors because they span from an apple pie ice cream and white chocolate cheesecake ice cream to rose almond and saffron pistachio.

Bavishi: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think that that’s the total spectrum of what influences me. I think that’s the point that I’m trying to make in the book.

The white chocolate cheesecake ice cream — that’s what got me into desserts and food in the first place. I saw Mrs. Fields making a white chocolate cheesecake on TV when I was 10 years old, and I told my mom that I wanted to make that. She was like, “okay, the kitchen is yours.” So I made it, and it was terrible. I cut the cheesecake when it was still warm, so it was kind of soupy. And to this day, I distinctly remember giving, you know, “pieces” — it was really like in bowls scooped out — to my parents and my sister. And they were like, “This is delicious.” And I was like, “This is kind of amazing.” Dessert will always bring joy, even if it’s soup and it’s not supposed to be soup.

Suzanne Nuyen edited this story.

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Yes, introverts and extroverts can be good friends. Here’s how

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Whenever I rendezvous with an extroverted friend, I feel a pang of anxiety as an introvert.

Will I have space to be my slow, quiet self? Will I have trouble keeping up with their chatter?

Usually the hang is glorious. But sometimes, the energy is off.

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I’ve never confronted my extroverted friends about this. So it was validating to hear from Jennifer Kahnweiler, author of The Introverted Leader, that I wasn’t alone.

Kahnweiler says extroverts and introverts move through the world differently — and friendships can suffer when those differences clash.

The key, she says, is to speak up before the resentments pile up. “If we don’t talk about these disconnects, they don’t get better,” she says.

Kahnweiler, who trains leaders, teams and organizations on how to help introverts thrive in an extroverted world, shares tips on how both personalities can get along.

Don’t pigeonhole your friend  

Introversion and extroversion are on “opposite ends of a continuum” and not a binary, says William Chopik, a social-personality psychologist at Michigan State University. “People mostly fall somewhere in between those two extremes.”

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Introverts are quieter, more introspective, deliberate, really into alone time. Extroverts are more talkative, outgoing, energetic, and very into socializing.

Where you fall on the spectrum isn’t static. For example, people tend to get a little more introverted as they get older, says Chopik, because of shifts in motivation, energy and lifestyle.

Context matters too. Speaking for myself, if I’ve starved myself of enough social contact, sometimes I can be the life of the party.

For this reason, try not to pigeonhole your friend as “just an introvert” or “just an extrovert.” Instead, use these concepts as “pairs of glasses you could look through,” Kahnweiler says.

Don’t take behaviors personally 

If your friend is exhibiting a behavior that’s bugging you, consider whether it might be due to a personality difference, Kahnweiler says. Then show a little grace.

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Kahnweiler shares the story of an extroverted woman trying to be friendly with an introverted coworker. When she asked about her coworker’s daughter getting married, the coworker shut down.

Later, she learned that her coworker thought she was being rude. They didn’t know each other well enough for such private questions. The woman didn’t take it personally, and today they’re friends.

Say what you need. Your friends aren’t mind readers. 

Kahnweiler has heard many complaints from both sides about the other.

Extroverts grumble that introverts move and talk slowly and pause a lot, don’t show a lot of facial expressions, and don’t give enough social cues.

Introverts gripe that extroverts can’t be alone, talk too much, hate silence, interrupt and are poor listeners.

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If you have these issues with your friend, talk about it, Kahnweiler says. Introverts might say, “There are times when I want to talk, but I don’t always feel like there’s space for me to get my ideas out there. How about if you pause more? And on my part, I will be more forthcoming with sharing because I want to have more of an even interchange and because I love you dearly.”

Invent some hacks

Come up with a code phrase or gesture to remind you what you both need.

While hanging out with an introverted friend, Kahnweiler, who is an extrovert, sometimes holds her hands underneath the table. It’s her signal to “shut your mouth,” she says.

She also has a bracelet she wears to remind herself to listen and not just rush to fill the silence. “It’s my little anchor,” she says.

Appreciate what’s unique about your friend 

Consider the introverts and extroverts in your social circle. How do they improve your life?

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Thinking about her introverted friends, Kahnweiler got emotional. “You guys model how to be alone with yourself, and then I started becoming more comfortable with that,” she says.

As for me, if it weren’t for my extroverted sweeties, my cats would get sick of me.

So tell your friends what you love about their unique characteristics. “I wonder what it would be like if we told each other that more,” she says. “How good would that feel?”

The digital story was edited by Malaka Gharib, with art direction by Beck Harlan. We’d love to hear from you. Leave us a voicemail at 202-216-9823, or email us at LifeKit@npr.org.

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