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Knicks fans are starting to believe again in a team built by ‘smart dorks’
The Charlotte Hornets’ first home preseason game felt more like it was being played 600-plus miles northeast, between Seventh and Eighth Avenues in Manhattan.
Blue and orange garb overpowered teal and white inside the Queen City’s Spectrum Center. There were more Jalen Brunson and Patrick Ewing jerseys than LaMelo Ball and Kemba Walker. The loudest cheers of the night came for the road team, and intensified when second-round Knicks rookie Tyler Kolek scored his first unofficial NBA points.
New York fans love their basketball team, especially their rookies. They take pleasure in taking over another team’s domain. Since 2001, though, they’ve sat through more seasons with 30 or fewer wins than playoff appearances. They haven’t seen their team get beyond the second round of the postseason since the start of the new millennium. That’s why the season ahead means so much.
The Knicks’ roster, on paper, features one of the best starting lineups in basketball, equipped with players in their primes, including a 6-foot-1 point guard who finished top five in MVP voting a season ago. They added arguably the two best wings in basketball who have never made an All-Star team. And earlier this month, New York added one of the best shooting big men to ever play. The front office is making shrewd decisions. The coach is a proven winner, with a combined 97-67 record over the last two seasons and consecutive trips to the Eastern Conference semifinals.
Knicks fans have spent the last 20-plus years loving something that hasn’t always loved them back. But this time, it feels mutual.
In the parking lot of Commack High in the spring of 1995, the voice of Mike Breen on WFAN was blasting inside a white 1987 Nissan Pulsar, drowning out the harmonic melodies of “Waterfalls” by TLC and the youthful bliss of the school’s junior prom. The Knicks were playing in the postseason. Jason D’Angelo and his friend Barry Dworkin, then both 17, were diehard fans. Their friendship, which started in middle school, revolved around their favorite basketball team. They cared very little about anything else.
With the car’s T-top down and a crisp spring breeze zipping through the interior, as their high school friends made lifetime memories inside, the best friends cranked the dial and let Breen narrate their night.
“I can tell you we definitely did not have dates,” D’Angelo said. “That wasn’t us.”
Jason D’Angelo, age 16 in the photo, in his Knicks-inspired bedroom. (Courtesy of Jason D’Angelo)
D’Angelo is now 46. His Knicks fandom now rivals what it once was, though the many losing seasons caused D’Angelo’s interest to drop periodically over the years. Having children and a family did, too.
Thinking back, D’Angelo wishes he’d known he was in the good old days before they were over. Back then the Knicks were one of the NBA’s elite teams, making the Eastern Conference semifinals five times, conference finals four times and the NBA Finals twice between 1992 and 2000.
Yet even amid one of the greatest periods in franchise history, D’Angelo knew there was a ceiling.
“We were never getting past Michael Jordan and the Bulls,” he said. “The fact that 1994 … was a year he wasn’t around, only cemented that. If he was playing, there was just no way. We were never good enough. Patrick Ewing is a Hall of Famer, but he wasn’t Michael Jordan.”
“And even to get past the Chicago team without him, it took an imaginary foul from (Scottie Pippen) on Hubert Davis just to get us to that point.”
Even with his expectations carefully calibrated, D’Angelo believed that one day the Knicks would get over the hump. That one day, when Jordan was gone, it would be New York’s turn.
After the 1997-98 season, the Knicks unloaded Charles Oakley to the Toronto Raptors for Marcus Camby and sent John Starks to the Golden State Warriors for Latrell Sprewell. The Pat Riley team the city had fallen in love with was fading. “It didn’t feel the same,” D’Angelo said.
That new iteration of Knicks basketball still made its mark, going to the NBA Finals during the 1998-99 lockout season, despite finishing as the No. 8 seed. The Knicks lost in the Finals to the dominant San Antonio Spurs and followed that up with a 50-32 season and an Eastern Conference finals appearance.
“I think people were expecting decent things, but nothing great,” D’Angelo said. “Camby was unproven. Sprewell, the season before, missed like 70 games because he choked P.J. Carlesimo. Ewing was getting older.”
Still, D’Angelo never would have predicted that, after the 2000 season, the Knicks would go another 20-plus years without beating their chest.
“I know a lot of people like to blame (owner) James Dolan,” he said. “Blaming Dolan is like blaming your mom when you go to therapy. Some of the blame does lie there. I think he was too loyal at times when it came to Isiah Thomas, and I think Isiah Thomas put us in a very bad spot, whether it was trades that didn’t work or contracts that didn’t work. They ended up being a stop for end-of-road former stars. The front office, I thought, was looked at as a joke.”
From 2000-01 to the 2019-20 season, the Knicks had just four years in which they finished with a regular-season record above .500. There were a lot of low points, but D’Angelo didn’t need any time to think about the moment that stung the most.
“Firing Phil Jackson eight days after letting him make the Frank Ntilikina pick in the draft — those were lean years for me,” D’Angelo said. “How would they let a guy make this pick and then he’s gone eight days later? That makes no sense at all.”
Now, after over two decades’ worth of confusion, D’Angelo has never been prouder to be a Knicks fan. Why? Competence. The current New York regime has spent the last few years showing that the organization now has one of the more forward-thinking front offices in sports.
“People trust Leon Rose,” D’Angelo said. “If you look at what Brock Aller has done with the financials, even in just this deal with Karl-Anthony Towns, he worked some incredible financial magic. … That was the kind of thing that we were missing.”
D’Angelo and Barry are still best friends. The team’s recent revitalization has them doing a podcast together, “It’s a Hard Knicks Life.” It started in 2017 as a safe haven to vent their frustration, but the podcast’s mood shifted in 2021 as the Knicks made the playoffs for the first time in eight years.
Even in the most exciting stretches of D’Angelo’s life as a Knicks fan, nothing ever quite felt like this.
“Players want to be here now,” D’Angelo said. “It’s not the same organization that it used to be.”
Ray McConville grew up in a non-sports household. At a young age, though, the Staten Island native gravitated to the Knicks.
“At the time, even growing up in New York in the 1990s, there were a lot of Bulls fans,” McConville, now 41, said. “It wasn’t universal Knicks love … there were a lot of people who were Jordan fans as well. As a kid, that drove me nuts. I’d come home from school complaining, ‘Mom, why do all these kids root for the Bulls? I hate them so much.’ And she’s just like, ‘What are you even talking about?’”
McConville was 16 in 1999, when the Knicks last made the NBA Finals. Those runs brought about excitement for the young New Yorker, but the Spurs of that era were far superior to the Knicks; the Indiana Pacers were gearing up for a second wind. Just when it felt like the Jordan window was opening up, other teams were on the rise.
“Knicks fans are a pretty self-aware bunch,” McConville said. “I like to say we’re not pessimistic and we’re not optimistic. We’re just realistic. At the time, you knew the team was on its last legs. It didn’t feel like we had another 10-year run ahead of us. It felt like we were at the end of an era.”
The moment that sticks with him is when New York traded Ewing to Seattle in 2000. Despite Ewing’s decline, McConville thought the organization should have let him finish his career in New York, or at least let him leave as a free agent so he could pick his team and have an opportunity to win a title.
The Ewing trade brought the Knicks bad draft picks and multiple players with long-term contracts. It began a trickle-down effect of New York living in salary-cap jail with players who weren’t going to move the needle.
For several years, starting around the 2003 season, McConville admits that while his Knicks fandom remained strong, he wasn’t as tuned in to the games. He was a young adult. There were better things to do than go out of his way to watch a team that had to scratch and claw for 30-plus wins.
“If I was home and had nothing else going on, I’d watch those late-March games when they’re going absolutely nowhere,” McConville said. “I have a hard time remembering a lot of those teams, which is probably for the best.”
Ray McConville and his wife at a Knicks game in 2022 (Courtesy of Ray McConville).
Despite the horror stories of being a Knicks fan in the 2000s and 2010s — for McConville, they hit rock-bottom during the 23-59 season when Larry Brown was the coach — he found pockets of excitement that made him remember why he could never fully leave.
In the summer of 2010, LeBron James was a free agent, and many New Yorkers hoped the King would come to town. McConville said he never fully convinced himself that James would, but he held out hope. When the dust settled and James chose the Miami Heat, the Knicks ended up with five-time All-Star Amar’e Stoudemire. It wasn’t a bad consolation prize.
New York got off to a slow start with Stoudemire, winning just three of its first 11 games, until a switch flipped and the team then rattled off 13 wins in 14 games. McConville was once again hooked. After a 129-125 win over the Denver Nuggets and Carmelo Anthony — who would be traded to New York later that season, and became the sole source of joy for most fans in the years following — the Knicks had an opportunity to re-emerge as juggernauts, with back-to-back games against the Celtics and James’ Heat.
“It felt like basketball mattered again,” McConville recalled. “Like Madison Square Garden was once again worthy of the Mecca name.”
New York lost both games, including a high-scoring matchup against the Celtics that came down to the final possession.
“It was the worst I felt in a really long time after a game,” McConville said. “I went to bed depressed, woke up and for a brief moment forgot about it. Then I remembered it and felt awful. It ruined me for days. Part of me was like, ‘OK, well, I kind of miss this.’”
McConville, a season-ticket holder for 15 years, is back to being obsessed. He believes that what is ahead for the Knicks could rival the run from his teenage years.
“The new regime has proven to be very smart,” he said. “It’s not just smart basketball guys in there, but smart dorks, respectfully, in the front office managing small details. They’ve proven that they can be trusted. I don’t get worried waking up and wondering, ‘Oh my god, what did they do?’”
For 30-plus years, Floyd Converse has been waiting to share an experience like this with his children. The 64-year-old who was raised in Westchester County and now resides in Manhattan was entering his teen years when the Knicks started dominating, winning NBA championships in 1970 and 1973.
A diehard Knicks fan for over 50 years, Converse passed down his love to his two sons when they were little — only for them to hear about how great it once was to be a Knicks fan, but never experience it themselves.
“Matthew, my youngest son, it’s been torture for him,” Converse said of the 25-year-old. “He used to say, ‘I thought they were supposed to be really good.’”
The last few years for the Knicks have evoked emotions in Converse that he hasn’t felt in decades, though he still cheers with cautious optimism.
“Being a fan right now, there is so much scar tissue from recent history,” Converse said. “People my age are holding back the enthusiasm.”
As for his children, this is the most exuberance they’ve had as fans in their lifetime. Converse and Matthew were considering going to a New York Yankees playoff game two weeks ago, but decided they’d rather save their money for Knicks games.
Converse has endured in a half-century of fandom, but what was nearly the final straw came in 2019, when he was at Madison Square Garden watching the Houston Rockets take on the Knicks. New York was in the midst of its second 17-win season in five years. The Rockets were magnitudes better. In front of Converse’s eyes, James Harden dropped 61 points in the victory.
Converse had a moment many fans can relate to, telling his kids, “I’m not coming back for years.”
“We just had so far to go to be good, and it’s expensive to go to the Garden,” Converse said.
But he could never really quit his Knicks.
The team’s recent stretch has given Converse some of his greatest moments as a fan. He was deeply invested in Donte DiVincenzo and his pursuit last season of the franchise record for made 3s in a season, which he got by March. Trading away Converse’s most recent favorite player hurt, but he understands it means the organization has its sights set on something greater. And after all these years, that’s all he’s wanted.
“Every decision management has made the last few years, in terms of personnel, I think it’s paid off very well… it feels like we’re in contention,” Converse said. “The expectations are reset, but I’m still reluctant to buy in.”
Converse remembers previous heartbreaks, none more painful than the 1993 Eastern Conference finals against the Bulls. The series was tied and Game 5 was at the Garden, where New York had won 27 straight. With 20 seconds left and the Bulls up by one, Ewing dropped a pass off to Charles Smith who, by ruling, was then blocked four times in a matter of seconds. Chicago would go on to win the game and series.
Converse and many New Yorkers saw it a different way.
“Everyone who is a Knicks fan with gray hairs remembers that Charles Smith was fouled in that game against the Bulls,” Converse said. “We got so close. You kind of give up a little bit.”
This is why Converse approaches the most anticipated season in Knicks recent history with some caution. He’s seen too much. He’s been tricked into believing something real was around the corner one too many times. But at the end of the day, he’s still a fan.
No matter what happens this season, Converse and his boys are ready for this ride. And, for once, they get to do it together.
(Illustration by Meech Robinson: The Athletic; photos by Andrew D. Bernstein
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Josh Allen reflects on growth he’s made since joining Bills and becoming expectant father
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Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen has had a terrific 2025.
He and his wife, actress and singer Hailee Steinfeld, got married in June and last week he announced the two were expecting their first child together. Not to mention, he started the year being awarded the NFL MVP trophy.
Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen (17) passes against the New England Patriots during the second half of an NFL football game in Foxborough, Massachusetts, Sunday, Dec. 14, 2025. (AP Photo/Charles Krupa)
Allen expressed some appreciation for how he’s grown as a person since he arrived in Buffalo in 2018 as his life took him from a small town in California to Wyoming to the NFL and on the brink of leading a championship-starved city to a Super Bowl appearance.
“Yeah, I guess it’s like the evolution of life,” he said Wednesday. “I consider this place my home. It’s where I’ve done a lot of growing up. And it’s a place that I’ll raise a family. It’s really cool.”
As his work-life balance becomes more rigid, The Associated Press noted a curious comment he made in October during “Monday Night Football.” He was asked what Steinfeld has taught him during their relationship. He responded, “Maybe I am more than a football player.”
Allen confirmed to The Associated Press that Steinfeld’s pregnancy factored into his response.
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Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen speaks at a news conference after an NFL football game against the New England Patriots in Foxborough, Massachusetts, Sunday, Dec. 14, 2025. (AP Photo/Robert F. Bukaty)
“Overjoyed, absolutely overjoyed,” he said, while confirming that he knew he was going to be a dad before the ESPN interview occurred.
Allen is a three-time Pro Bowler and coming off an MVP season. While he’s done more than enough to warrant talk of back-to-back MVPs, Allen shook that notion off going into Week 16.
“I’m just trying to do my job, just trying to find a way to get in the playoffs here,” he said.
Beating the New England Patriots last week after being down 21 points was a good first step. Buffalo has had ups and downs all season long but the team seems to be hitting its stride now with four wins in their last five games.
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Buffalo will go up against the Cleveland Browns on the road on Sunday.
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NFL Week 16 picks: Rams defeat Seahawks; Broncos edge Jaguars
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Line: Bills by 10½. O/U: 41½.
After an amazing comeback against a really strong New England team last Sunday, the Bills are emboldened and Josh Allen is on an MVP pace. Cleveland relies on its stout defense, but that unit didn’t show up in Week 15 against Chicago, surrendering 31 points. Buffalo, which is 7-2 outside the division, wins this going away.
Pick: Bills 27, Browns 16
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Heisman Trophy voter blasts Vanderbilt’s Diego Pavia for F-bomb remark in fiery column: ‘Punk move’
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One Heisman Trophy voter isn’t staying silent after seeing Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia’s message about finishing second over the weekend to Indiana’s Fernando Mendoza.
Chase Goodbread of The Tuscaloosa News, who has a Heisman vote, wrote a piece this week about Pavia saying “F— all the voters” after finishing a distant second behind Mendoza. Pavia wrote it in the caption of an Instagram story post with a picture of his Commodores teammates.
While Pavia apologized for his initial response to the loss in New York City, Goodbread wasn’t impressed by what Pavia had to say.
Heisman Trophy candidate quarterback Diego Pavia of the Vanderbilt Commodores poses with the Heisman Memorial Trophy before the 2025 Heisman Trophy presentation at Marriott Marquis Hotel Dec. 13, 2025, in New York City. (Adam Hunger/Getty Images)
“He’s a big boy now,” Goodbread wrote in his column. “Old enough to have more than one college degree. Old enough to beat the NCAA in court to gain extra eligibility, and old enough to make the pile of NIL money that came with that. Old enough to know better. And old enough to handle some criticism.
“It was a punk move, Diego. This voter wasn’t sitting right next to Mendoza Saturday night, but my congrats for him are at least genuine.”
Goodbread added that Pavia’s behavior was “jackassery,” saying, “After 6 years in college, you’d think Pavia would’ve signed up for at least one course in humility by now.”
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Mendoza finished with 643 first-place votes to Pavia’s 189.
The Vanderbilt athletic director released a statement on Monday after Pavia’s comment.
“Diego knows his actions were unacceptable, and he has apologized,” athletic director Candice Lee said in a statement to The Tennessean Monday. “I know he is contrite and regrets the hurt he caused. He is a passionate and authentic competitor, and while his authenticity has been nurtured and celebrated here, it does not change the responsibility that comes with representing Vanderbilt University.
“We believe in growth and accountability, and we will continue to support Diego as he learns from this moment.”
Pavia later apologized for his comments on X.
Diego Pavia of the Vanderbilt Commodores warms up before a game against the Tennessee Volunteers at Neyland Stadium Nov. 29, 2025, in Knoxville, Tenn. (Johnnie Izquierdo/Getty Images)
“I didn’t handle those emotions well at all and did not represent myself the way I wanted to,” he wrote in a statement. “I have much love and respect for the Heisman voters and the selection process, and I apologize for being disrespectful. It was a mistake, and I am sorry.
“Fernando Mendoza is an elite competitor and a deserving winner of the award. I have nothing but respect for his accomplishments as well as the success that Jeremiyah [Love] and Julian [Sayin] had this season. I’ve been doubted my whole life,” he wrote.
“Every step of my journey I’ve had to break down doors and fight for myself, because Ive learned that nothing would be handed to me. My family has always been in my corner, and my teammates, coaches and staff have my six. I love them — I am grateful for them. — and I wouldn’t want anything to distract from that. I look forward to competing in front of my family and with my team one more time in the ReliaQuest Bowl.”
Pavia, playing in his second season at Vanderbilt after starting at New Mexico State, led the SEC with a 71.2% completion rate with 27 touchdowns, 3,192 yards passing and nine rushing scores. He rushed for 826 yards on 152 attempts.
Pavia’s reaction to the voting results wasn’t much of a shock, though. He has always been self-confident to the point he kept telling voters to send him to New York City because he felt he deserved the Heisman.
Vanderbilt Commodores quarterback Diego Pavia throws to an open teammate against South Carolina Gamecocks during the first half at FirstBank Stadium in Nashville, Tenn., Nov. 9, 2024. (Imagn)
“The Heisman Trophy winner goes to the best player in college football,” Pavia said on OutKick’s “Hot Mic.” “I believe that to be myself. You check the numbers, and especially — there’s two things that don’t lie to you: Numbers and tape. I’ve been taught that since I was young. You go check that out. I feel like I’m undoubtedly the best player in college football.”
Vanderbilt had a 10-2 record on the year, ranking No. 14 nationally at the end of the regular season.
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