New Hampshire
Transcript: Sen. Jeanne Shaheen on
The following is the transcript of the interview with Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, Democrat of New Hampshire, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Nov. 16, 2025.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We go now to New Hampshire Democratic Senator Jeanne Shaheen. Good morning to you, Senator.
SENATOR JEANNE SHAHEEN: Good morning. Nice to be with you.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well you have spent a good part of the past year trying to get legislation through to extend those Obamacare tax credit subsidies. Last Sunday, you crossed the aisle. You agreed to reopen the government, end the shutdown without a guaranteed extension, but with a promise to have some kind of vote on an ACA bill of Democrats’ own choosing. Do you have consensus among Democrats that this needs to be a vote simply to extend the tax credits as they stand now or are you open to a broader reform of Obamacare?
SEN. SHAHEEN: Well from the beginning of this shutdown I’ve had two goals. One is to get government up and running again to end the suffering that too many Americans were experiencing because they lost food assistance or they weren’t getting paid federal employees, and the second was to address the high cost of premium- health insurance that people are looking at because insurance companies are setting rates based on the fact that those premium tax credits are not- are supposed to go away at the end of this year. I think people are now very aware of the fact that they are going to see huge rate increases double for so many people, and an unaffordable cost of health insurance if those premium tax credits go away. And what I think we need to do, and these are conversations that we need to have, is we need to work with our Republican colleagues to try and get a bill that can be supported. That can get through both houses of Congress where we’ve been talking to our Republicans, Senator Cassidy, throughout the shutdown, about what we might be able to agree to. We’ve been talking to House members on both sides of the aisle, and so now we need to work together. I agree with Senator Cassidy. This should be a bill that is not partisan, but it should be a bill to extend those premium tax credits, because, as everybody has talked about, there is real urgency to get this done. And if we don’t address it, then people are going to see huge rate increases. —
MARGARET BRENNAN: — Yeah. —
SEN. SHAHEEN: — So we can work together, we can extend the credits, but we probably can’t implement significant reforms that Senator Cassidy was talking about in the time frame that we’ve got. So we need to look both in the short term and in the long term for how we address the cost of health care.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, so that’s an important point. So the 26 billion or so that he talks about as the cost for extension of these that he wants to redirect into these cash accounts, these flexible accounts. You’re saying you can’t get that done in six weeks time.
SEN. SHAHEEN: No, you can’t. —
MARGARET BRENNAN: — Okay. —
SEN. SHAHEEN: — And again, there’s real urgency to do this. There’s some good, bipartisan legislation that has come out of committee in the Senate that I think we should take up. Things that would expedite approval of generic drugs and biosimilars, that would address PBM reform, which is a huge cost increase for health care, but that’s a longer term issue. Right now, we need to address what people are facing in terms of those high rate increases because of the threat that these premium tax credits are going to end.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Just to put a fine point on it, when we heard the Congressman at the top of the program talk about, you know, caps on income and restrictions on who can benefit from those tax credits. Can you get your fellow Democrats, who, by the way, are pretty angry at each other, angry at you as well, about this decision to reopen the government? Can you get everyone on board? Or can you at least get to 60 votes to be able to extend those subsidies with tweaks?
SEN. SHAHEEN: Well, first of all, we need to put the shutdown behind us in the circular firing squad and remember why we’re in this situation. We’re in this situation because Donald Trump and Speaker Johnson and the Republican majorities in the House and Senate have refused to address cost, the cost of health care, and are trying to throw people off their health care. Can we get to consensus? Well, we need to, if we’re going to get a bipartisan bill out of the Congress. I think we’ve seen and heard from health insurance companies that implementing significant changes in the first year is going to be really difficult to do, almost impossible. But we ought to be able to agree on some changes like capping the income of people who receive those premium tax credits. Right now, 94% of people who get the credits earn under $200,000 a year, and the average income for a single recipient is about a little over $30,000 a year. So most people who are getting these tax credits are not in that high income level —
MARGARET BRENNAN: — Yeah. —
SEN. SHAHEEN: — And so we should be able to agree on that. We should be able to agree that we don’t want any fraud and abuse in the program. —
MARGARET BRENNAN: — Right. —
SEN. SHAHEEN: — That’s something Republicans and Democrats believe in. So let’s focus on what we can agree to. Let’s look at what we can get done in the time frame we have, and recognize there is real urgency to get these premium tax credits extended.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you’re going to have this vote around the second week of December, but premiums are already notified out. They are already —
SEN. SHAHEEN: — Right. —
MARGARET BRENNAN: — sort of baked in here for- certainly for Americans who buy government health care. Is it too late to extend open enrollment? I mean, Senator Cassidy was saying like ship has sailed here.
SEN. SHAHEEN: No, we could actually decide that we were willing as part of this legislation to extend open enrollment. Obviously, we need support from the administration, but insurance companies, in meeting with the insurance industry, they’ve indicated that while it would be difficult, they could address some of the challenges around not getting agreement until December. Again, that’s why there’s urgency to get this done.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to ask you about another matter. Survivors of convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, as well as some of the families of those survivors, wrote a letter to lawmakers supporting the release of Justice Department internal communications in regard to his case. In that letter, they said there was no middle ground here. There was no hiding behind party affiliation. We will remember your decision at the ballot box. You know, this House vote is set to come up this week. Should there be a vote in the Senate? And would you support it, to see the release of these documents?
SEN. SHAHEEN: Absolutely. We need to release the documents. The American people need to see what’s in them. And if President Trump says there’s nothing there that he’s concerned about, then why doesn’t he support release of the documents?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, we will see if the Republican leader in the Senate takes up your proposal there. There has not been a commitment to have that kind of vote. But on Venezuela, since you are ranking member on Senate Foreign Relations, I want to make sure I ask you, the President said he has sort of made up his mind on what to do about Venezuela. You were one of the very few senators who have received briefings within the past few weeks from Secretaries Rubio and Hegseth regarding the strikes that are being carried out on these small, fast moving boats. Is there a clear end game here and is your understanding that ousting Nicolas Maduro from power is part of the administration’s plan?
SEN. SHAHEEN: I don’t think it’s clear what the end game is for this administration with respect to Venezuela. They’re relying on a legal opinion, excuse me, in terms of the boat strikes that they have not released. They have finally made it available to members of Congress, but they haven’t released it to the public. They are escalating in a way that talking about a land strike through special operations that puts at risk our men and women in the military. We have so much firepower now in the Caribbean, the Gerald R. Ford has been taken from the Red Sea, so that now we don’t have any firepower, really, in the Middle East as we look at the threats there. We don’t have what we need, I think, in the Indo-Pacific or in Europe. And so what the President has done here is to put at risk other parts of the world and Americans in other parts of the world for this fascination on trying to get rid of Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela, who clearly is —
MARGARET BRENNAN: — Yeah. —
SEN. SHAHEEN: — a bad character. He’s been involved in drug —
MARGARET BRENNAN: — Yeah. —
SEN. SHAHEEN: — illegal drugs. But he is not a threat to the United States of America. —
MARGARET BRENNAN: — Okay. —
SEN. SHAHEEN: — And what the President is doing is raising real questions.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Senator Shaheen, thank you for your time this morning. We’ll be back in a moment.
New Hampshire
Pete Buttigieg stumps with Chris Pappas and other N.H. Democrats, fueling speculation about 2028 presidential race – The Boston Globe
“I voted for you last year,” one man said, as he gave Pappas a firm handshake.
“I might ask you to do it again this year,” Pappas replied.
“It’s going to happen,” the man added. “I hate Trump.”
Pappas has a commanding lead in the contested Democratic primary. He also appears to be ahead, albeit by a narrower margin, in hypothetical matchups with John E. Sununu and Scott Brown, the two contenders for the Republican nomination.
Sununu, whose family is seen as a political dynasty in New Hampshire, secured President Trump’s endorsement earlier this month. That further strengthens his position in the GOP primary, though it poses a potential challenge for the general election, since Trump’s job approval rating remains underwater in New Hampshire.
While the Trump administration’s sweeping crackdown on immigrants has been a point of contention nationwide, the topic has become especially urgent in New Hampshire in recent weeks. State and local leaders have struggled to get clear answers from the federal government about plans to convert an industrial warehouse in Merrimack, N.H., into a regional processing center where US Immigration and Customs Enforcement plans to hold 400 to 600 detainees at a time, as part of a nationwide network of new detention centers.
When asked about the warehouse, Buttigieg noted that Republicans have joined in pushing back on plans for such facilities in New Hampshire and elsewhere.
“We all understand and accept the importance of proper immigration law and enforcement, but a campaign of mass incarceration and terror is not what most Americans believe is the right thing to do,” he said. “And I think the bipartisan resistance to this facility shows that.”
Pappas said he is eager to support legislation to end the partial government shutdown that’s impacting parts of the US Department of Homeland Security, but he wants to see additional guardrails on ICE, such as requiring warrants and deescalation training and ensuring officers identify themselves.
“This shouldn’t be about political leverage. It should be about getting the job done,” Pappas said. “And if we will see legislation come to the floor of the House, I want to make sure those accountability measures are in place, in addition to proper funding.”
Buttigieg said he came to New Hampshire because he is traveling around the country elevating causes and candidates worth supporting. He praised Pappas and New Hampshire in the same breath.
“I’ve seen his pragmatic style that’s very much characteristic of this state,” Buttigieg said, “and I also think he represents a welcome generational opportunity to have new voices in a more modern Senate.”
Buttigieg, 44, is popular among Democrats in New Hampshire. He finished second in the state’s presidential primary in 2020, which helped him climb from his prior job as mayor of South Bend, Ind., to a cabinet-level post overseeing the US Department of Transportation under former president Joe Biden.
His prior campaign experience was evident on Thursday, as some of the restaurant patrons regaled him with stories recalling the first time they had met him and his husband, Chasten, in 2019 at the house parties and meet-and-greet events for which the New Hampshire primary is known.
Buttigieg said campaigning in New Hampshire ahead of the 2020 primary made him a stronger candidate and influenced his views on presidential politics.
“I think it’s critically important for candidates on the national stage to have to have that experience of slowing down and talking to people in small communities, in intimate settings,” he said, “and New Hampshire is full of people who take their civic responsibility as an early state seriously.”
Looking ahead to the 2028 presidential race, Buttigieg ranks among the favorite potential candidates for likely Democratic primary voters in New Hampshire, according to early polling. Data that the University of New Hampshire Survey Center released Thursday showed Buttigieg in the lead at 20 percent, followed by Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and California Governor Gavin Newsom at 15 percent apiece, then former vice president Kamala Harris and Senator Mark Kelly at 10 percent apiece.
Andrew Smith, director of the UNH Survey Center, said Buttigieg’s activity in New Hampshire is a strong sign of his potential aspirations to launch another presidential bid. If that’s the case, then stumping alongside Pappas and others is a good opportunity to build connections and support among the politically engaged Granite Staters who would be interested in working for the 2028 campaign, he said.
Smith said the latest data on potential Republican candidates show Vice President JD Vance is the clear front-runner for the GOP’s 2028 primary in New Hampshire, which signals Vance is also well-positioned to win his party’s nomination. But there is no front-runner in the Democratic contest.
“There’s no clear leader here,” Smith said. “There is an open field.”
Buttigieg is far from the only potential presidential hopeful making noteworthy visits to New Hampshire. Newsom and Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear are each expected to visit in early March, and several others — including Illinois Governor JB Pritzker and senators Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar, and Ruben Gallego — have made similar treks in recent months.
After visiting with Pappas in Manchester on Thursday afternoon, Buttigieg attended a community conversation Thursday evening with Representative Maggie Goodlander in Nashua. He’s expected to join local leaders in Concord on Friday morning, then deliver a speech at Dartmouth College on Friday evening, before joining local organizers for an event on Saturday.
Steven Porter can be reached at steven.porter@globe.com. Follow him @reporterporter.
New Hampshire
Lucas: Healey goes for ‘meddle’ of honor over NH ICE move
New Hampshire Gov. Kelly Ayotte has a point.
Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, especially when it comes to criminal illegal immigration.
Or, as Republican Ayotte put it to Massachusetts Democrat Gov. Maura Healey — “Get your own house in order, Maura.”
The flap was over Healey’s “demand” that Ayotte reject a proposed Immigration and Custom Enforcement (ICE) regional Granite State site to house detained illegal immigrants, criminal and otherwise.
The empty warehouse facility in Merrimack near the Massachusetts border would be converted into a 400-bed detention facility – one of several large-scale facilities the agency is planning to erect across the country.
“This is outrageous and absolutely the wrong move for New Hampshire,” Healey said. Healey, born in Maryland, grew up in Hampton Falls, N.H.
Ayotte in effect told Healey to mind her own business, which is to run Massachusetts, not New Hampshire.
Besides, many of the criminal illegal immigrants to be temporarily housed at the New Hampshire facility will likely be from Massachusetts, having been waved into the country by Joe Biden and into the state by Healey.
And while Massachusetts is not an official sanctuary state —although Boston is — under Healey, Massachusetts acts like one.
And the state’s generous benefits — originally designed for Massachusetts residents — have made the state a haven for illegal immigrants who flocked to the state seeking these freebies which, of course, cost Massachusetts taxpayers billions.
So It is no wonder that Healey is opposed to cutting the state income tax from from 5% to 4%, which will be on the 2026 ballot for voter consideration.
She needs the money to pay for those benefits.
Massachusetts has been a good deal for illegal immigrants. It is also why they have not descended on New Hampshire which, to say the least, is not as generous to illegal immigrants as is Massachusetts. New Hampshire has no sanctuary cities.
And, unlike Massachusetts, New Hampshire supports local police officials cooperating with ICE.
Illegal immigrants in Massachusetts are protected from ICE. If left-wing judges are not letting them evade ICE from the back door of courthouses, Healey is seeking to outright ban ICE from the courthouses.
She says ICE is made up of “rogue” agents who are breaking the law and causing “devastation” and “harm.” She has joined the chorus of Democrats calling for its defunding.
If Healey were so concerned about law enforcement officials breaking the law, she would also call for the defunding of the Massachusetts State Police. More state cops have been sent to prison under her watch than ICE agents.
All the while Healey has “demanded” that fellow Gov. Ayotte “do everything in her power to block a new ICE facility in New Hampshire.”
Of the demand, Ayotte told the Globe, “New England is in this position because Governor Healey and Massachusetts created a billion-dollar illegal immigrant crisis in our region.”
There is no love lost between the two governors.
Healey went to extraordinary efforts to defeat Ayotte in the last gubernatorial election. She raised money and actively campaigned in New Hampshire for Ayotte’s progressive Democrat opponent Joyce Craig, the former mayor of Manchester, who lost.
Ayotte’s campaign slogan was: “Don’t MASS up New Hampshire.”
Veteran political reporter Peter Lucas can be reached at: peter.lucas@bostonherald.com.
New Hampshire
2 hospitalized with life-threatening CO poisoning in New Hampshire
Two people were rushed to the hospital with carbon monoxide poisoning after an incident at a condominium building in Plymouth, New Hampshire, on Wednesday.
Plymouth Fire Rescue said they were called to building on Tenney Brook Road around 4 a.m. for reports of people feeling sick. Firefighters logged CO readings over 500 parts per million (PPM) in the unit – a level considered “immediately dangerous to life and health.”
According to the EPA, a reading above nine parts per million is considered unsafe for an eight-hour exposure, and anything over 35 parts per million is considered unsafe after one hour.
Off-duty first responders were called in to assist at the scene. Fire crews removed two people from the home and evacuated the remaining five units of the building. Two residents were transported to the hospital with life-threatening injuries.
The source of the CO was tracked to an on-demand water heater, though the exact cause of the leak remains under investigation. Firefighters shut off the gas and ventilated the building until readings were back to zero parts per million.
CO is a colorless, odorless, gas and exposure can be fatal. Residents are urged to have working CO detectors in their homes.
Early signs of CO poisoning include headache, nausea, dizziness, and disorientation. If you suspect a CO leak or if your CO detector goes off, get outside and call 911.
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