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One night when I was out at a bar, reporting for a story, I struck up a conversation with a comedian who was in her early 30s. I’d recently turned 29 and I expressed that I was feeling anxious about my impending milestone birthday.

“The worst part about 30 is 29,” she told me in a playful yet reassuring tone. It was a joke that her comedian friend Kevin had shared with her.

The words felt true. Since my 29th birthday, I kept thinking about all of the things I hadn’t achieved yet. I hadn’t made the Forbes 30 under 30 list, I had no prospects for a husband, the sheer thought of having a pet (let alone a child) made my stomach turn and the only valuables I owned were my iPhone and my car.

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Arguably, turning any age can lead someone to think about all they have yet to accomplish, but there’s something distinct about being 29 years old. It exists right there on the brink between your 20s, when you’re expected and encouraged to make many mistakes, and your 30s, when society suddenly expects you to have it all figured out because you’re suddenly an actual adult. So if you’ve reached the final lap of your 20s and you haven’t crossed off multiple culturally defined boxes — get married, have a family, buy a house and have a thriving career, etc. — it’s easy to feel left behind.

Eventually, I had a mental shift. I figured that it was unlikely that I’d accomplish all of these things within a year, so I decided to focus on making 29 the most memorable year of my 20s — a last hurrah, if you will — and to set myself up for success in my 30s. I realized that I didn’t need to rush to check milestones off my bucket list just because I was turning 30. I still had time and the self-imposed pressure was neither helpful nor necessary. I just needed to be present.

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I knew I couldn’t be the only person who had big feelings about turning 30, so I started talking to other 29-year-olds in L.A. about their anxieties, fears and hopes for crossing over the 30 bridge. While some said their life doesn’t mirror what they thought it would look like at this age, many are more hopeful than anxious about what’s to come. This story features six Angelenos on the brink of 30, photographed in their homes around L.A. We also had a birthday photo shoot at iconic entertainment center Chuck E. Cheese. It’s a nostalgic place for people my age — I had my very first birthday party there so it felt only right to return.

As I get ready to celebrate my 30th birthday, I’m feeling excited about what feels like a new chapter in my life. Reflecting on my 20s, I dedicate Cleo Sol’s song “Rose in the Dark” to this revelatory whirlwind of a decade. The next one will be even sweeter.

Responses have been lightly edited for length and clarity.

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Anabel Inigo at home in Mid-City.

Anabel Inigo at home in Mid-City.

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Occupation: Assistant to TV producers

How are you feeling about turning 30?
I always think about if my 13-year-old self would be proud of me and how 30 felt so important to me. By 30, I wanted to have made my first film, be a millionaire, have made the [Forbes] 30 under 30 list, but I’ve done none of those things. At my job as an assistant — with an MFA I thought I needed — I’m cleaning a coffee pot and I’m so worried that all of my decades will just never bring what I expect. I know you learn more as you grow up but what if all you learn is that you shouldn’t be ambitious? And what does that mean when that’s always been such a big part of who you are?

Have other people placed any expectations on you because you are turning 30?
My mother and my grandparents always wanted big things for me. I am a first-generation college student from a family where my generation should be the ones that “make it.” What does that mean when I haven’t?

“I’m so worried that all of my decades will just never bring what I expect. I know you learn more as you grow up but what if all you learn is that you shouldn’t be ambitious?”

— Anabel Inigo

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How are you spending the last year of your 20s?
Being an assistant, following my dream. I have two roommates, living in a city I always wanted to live in, but still in so many ways I’m unfulfilled.

What do you hope your 30s will look and feel like?
I want my 30s to be the years where what I wanted in my 20s comes true. I was in grad school until I was 26, so this will be the first decade I’m not in school and I can just focus on myself. For my 30th birthday, I plan to go on a cruise, something I did when I was 15. Maybe I’m starting a tradition?

What song would you like to dedicate to your 20s?
“Gotta Get Through This” by Daniel Bedingfield.

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Ryan Kageyama poses for a portrait in his home in Palms, Los Angeles.

Ryan Kageyama poses for a portrait in his home in Palms, Los Angeles.

Occupation: Works in tech operations

How are you feeling about turning 30?
Turning 30 is the inevitable milestone often used as a baseline for other life achievements such as getting married, having kids and becoming a homeowner. I am nowhere near accomplishing any of those milestones as I am a bachelor living on the westside of L.A. Yet, I don’t feel any sense of urgency to settle to pursue any specific life goals since most of my peers are in a similar situation. I love my job and the flexibility that comes with it and I have an active social life on the weekends. I am planning for the future without sacrificing too much in the present, which makes me feel at ease with the impending 30th birth year. My next step is finding out where I want to be for my 30s and to lay roots for the rest of my life, but I am not too concerned about it right now.

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When I turned 20, I thought my life would be vastly different at the time I turned 30. I naively predicted based on societal norms and associated my own happiness to these details. Now that I’m about to turn 30 without a partner, kids or a home, I don’t feel disappointed nor do I feel unhappy. Everyone has their own journey. It’s yours to make the most of it.

Have other people placed any expectations on you because you are turning 30?
One of my siblings [recently] got married and my other sibling is on the journey to be married. Someone at my brother’s wedding asked me “Which sibling are you? The doctor or the single one?” This type of remark would [normally] bother me, but now I’ve given it a good laugh and moved on. The term “Funcle” is starting to sound nice to me and I will certainly embrace it.

How are you spending the last year of your 20s?
I’ve spent the last year of my 20s making meaningful connections with new faces and reconnecting with old friends. I started saying yes to more things like run clubs and random weekday outings. I worked on personal projects like stand-up comedy, podcasting and community organizing through coffee and music. Honestly, this has been one of the best years of my life and I’m still excited for the next decade.

“The term ‘Funcle’ is starting to sound nice to me.”

— Ryan Kageyama

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What do you hope your 30s will look and feel like?
I imagine my 30s evolving into my self-care era. My body is catching up to me, and I think it’s about time to put my body and mental well-being before anything else. My knees won’t last forever but I will be damned if I didn’t try get the most of out them while I still can. I hope to finally buy a home in a location where I can set my roots. I want to get a dog too!

What song would you like to dedicate to your 20s?
“adore u” by Fred Again.

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Nat Agoos at home in Mount Washington.

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Occupation: Works at a nonprofit

How are you feeling about turning 30?
The overall feeling is appreciative. Every year I turn another year older, I become more and more aware of time, of the rapidity of life and of all the things I want to do before it’s all over. I wish we could live until, like, 300. And when I zoom in a bit more, I almost already feel nostalgia for the past nine years, which as we all know, are hectic ones. You exit your teens, the curtains to “adulthood” kind of suddenly whip open, and as they do (and as your brain is verging on becoming fully developed), you must, not so graciously, find your way. The tumult feels (slightly) less shaky and my path onward, after endless trial and error, feels just settled enough to garner a sense of confidence I definitely did not have in my early 20s.

But while I am feeling a greater sense of what I want and what I don’t want, I am simultaneously entering this middle space, between Phase 1 of adulthood and Phase 2 of adulthood, which has introduced a new type of uncertainty I haven’t met yet. It’s like, with this greater sense of who I am, who I want to be, the next natural step is to go forth with that knowledge, full steam ahead. To settle down. But as I exit my 20s I can almost feel them pulling me back, yelling from a distance, “Don’t go yet! There’s still so much chaos to impart on you!” The idea of “settling down” is a scary one.

Lastly, I feel young. More young than I’ve ever felt, even though I am older than I have ever been. I’m at this interesting age where while I still have [so] much to learn, I feel like I understand my life in a way I haven’t before. As my awareness of life increases, so does my awareness of how young I am (not to brag). As a kid/young adult, that thought doesn’t really cross your mind. I’d like to savor every last moment of it.

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Have other people placed expectations on you because of your age?
If they have, I’ve been too busy imparting my own expectations on myself to notice!

How are you spending the last year of your 20s?
As I mentioned before, I am feeling equally pulled by the uncertainty of my 20s, and the “settled-ness” of my 30s. I plan to embrace being yanked, to absorb as much as I can, to bring as much of my free spirit and curiosity that early adulthood hands out at no charge into my next chapter, and to take things slow.

What do you hope your 30s will look and feel like?
I hope for a new type of chaos. A chaos where I get to explore the parts of me that I discovered in my 20s, giving space for missteps or unforeseen results. To harness my new sense of control in a way that doesn’t require me to 100% be in control. And to not to forget to continue to question, no matter how positive I may feel.

What song would you like to dedicate to your 20s?
“Praise You” by Fatboy Slim.

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Dave Harris at home in Los Feliz.

Dave Harris at home in Los Feliz.

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Occupation: TV, film and theater writer

How are you feeling about turning 30?
Hot. I believe that everyone just gets hotter with every year of life and each birthday continues this trend. So actually more than anything, I just believe that I and everyone I love will get hotter and hotter by the year, by the day even. I don’t just mean aesthetically (though I do); I mean energetically. If this was the ascendant glow-up of the 20s, then my God the 30s, it’s full of stars.

Have other people placed any expectations on you because you are turning 30?
Society is generally bad at perceiving how old Black people are. Also all the men in my family lose their hair and grow beards at 25. So I’m often working in rooms where people assume I’m older than I am, and I let them. And because of life circumstances, I’ve had to operate like someone older than I am since elementary school. So in a way, turning 30 actually feels like I’ve been here for some time and now I just get to claim it.

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How are you spending the last year of your 20s?
I’m working a lot and cooking for the people I love. I’m dancing more. I’m chasing spontaneity. I’m finding new things to love. It’s not some revelation. There are things I didn’t know I could love until I had a stable income. Like what the hell, if sixth-grade me who only had a microwave and mini-fridge at home could watch 29-year-old me make agnolotti del plin on a Tuesday?

What do you hope your 30s will look and feel like?
Because of generational instability, family hasn’t reliably been a part of my life and the trajectory of my life has often pulled me far away from the place I’m from (Philly). I’ve been proud of that because I’ve gotten to do and see so much more than what I grew up with. I travel, I work from a place of desire and not from a place of fear, I have a community of friends that I can’t imagine life without, and still, more than any other year, I find myself craving the irreplicable intimacy of family. This can be a lonely desire because so many people in my life have economically and emotionally stable families, so I hold this space tenderly. And yet, I hope that I’ll have the means to help carry my family with me through my 30s. Whereas my 20s were marked by a feeling of chasing, I think my 30s might be marked by a feeling of return. It’s hard to heal familial wounds when your family is living paycheck to paycheck.

“There are things I didn’t know I could love until I had a stable income. Like what the hell, if sixth grade me who only had a microwave and mini-fridge at home could watch 29-year-old me make agnolotti del plin on a Tuesday?”

— Dave Harris

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I feel like I am a part of a generation of overachieving Black artists who maybe did not grow up with a lot and were taught that “Education is the key!” and through education and institutions, we toiled through that upwards mobility ladder. The 20s are a decade of mandated change. Turning 21, finishing college, grad school, first apartments, movement. If every parent wants their child to achieve a better life than they did, then I accomplished that by simply getting into college. Even though my career is in a scarcity-based industry, I feel I’ve been on a particular path with particular goals. In some ways, my 20s were both astronomical and predictable. My whole life I’ve defined myself by an idea of success, and every year that definition has become more and more uniquely my own. There has been such freedom in that. I’m so happy with my 20s. I want my 30s to be even happier. I’m most excited for the things I haven’t imagined yet. I can’t believe that I sound this optimistic because I don’t think of myself as an optimistic person, but there are so many other ways my life could have turned out.

What song would you like to dedicate to your 20s?
“Back in my Bag” by Rapsody

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Holly Giang at home in Los Feliz.

Holly Giang at home in Los Feliz.

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Occupation: Works in product strategy

How are you feeling about turning 30?
I’m thrilled; I’m confident that my 30s will be my most fulfilling decade yet. My 20s were full of rich experiences, and it was full of hustle, vulnerability and decision paralysis. As I enter my 30s, I feel extremely curious, energized and at peace. I believe I now have the luxury of time to savor the present and the resources to try out the things my kid self wanted to do.

Have other people placed any expectations on you because you are turning 30?
Yes. I’ve certainly been fielding more questions from family (and strangers) about marriage and children. Societal expectations undeniably place a heavy burden on women in the workplace and at home. Having clarity and conviction (and therapy!) has allowed me to set and manage these expectations with my family since my early 20s, which has helped me to navigate the pressure and remain unbothered.

How are you spending the last year of your 20s?
After navigating three stressful life events, including ending my long-term partnership and moving to L.A. on the same day, I’m focused on reprioritizing my life and being more self-serving. I want to make sense of this city, to plant roots and build community. My food expeditions via bike and Metro have served as the gateway to feeling more connected to different parts of the city, and I’ve met plenty of kind Angelenos along the way.

What do you hope your 30s will look and feel like?
Based on what I learned in my 20s, I’m hoping my 30s will be marked by a renewed sense of confidence, independence, growth and adventure.

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What song would you like to dedicate to your 20s?
“Unwritten” by Natasha Bedingfield.

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Kidist Mekonnen at home in Inglewood.

Kidist Mekonnen at home in Inglewood.

Occupation: Senior associate project manager

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How are you feeling about turning 30?
If you asked me a couple years ago, I would have told you that I was terrified. But now as I get closer, I’m much less anxious. Part of that being that it’s a blessing to grow older, wiser and the lessons of my 20s will help me step into my 30s.

Have other people placed any expectations on you because you are turning 30?
Absolutely. I know most people have good intentions when asking about different milestones you need to hit at a certain age, but I think there is often a lack of acknowledgment of how it may make us feel. Social media already spews out enough expectations on us, so it can get even more overwhelming when it comes directly from family and friends. I constantly remind myself of the many milestones we can celebrate for others that are not just the typical ones. To feel loved and celebrated at any stage and moment in life feels amazing and I hope to do that for all my friends.

How are you spending the last year of your 20s?
My biggest regret was not traveling aboard in college and now as a real adult I’m trying to play catch-up with my travels. I’m hoping I can spend more time this year exploring! I have yet to take my first real solo trip internationally, so I’m looking forward to planning that. I also want to spend a lot of time outdoors and prioritizing my health/fitness. I’m also allowing myself to feel all things I need to feel. I’m so grateful for God and what He’s been able to show me this last half of my 20s.

What do you hope your 30s will look and feel like?
I pray my 30s will be a lot of time spent laughing, loving on others and being kind to myself. There’s so much I can say I want to plan for now, but being in my last year of my 20s, I just want to be in the moment and be around my community.

What song would you like to dedicate to your 20s?
“Beautiful” by Mali Music.

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This is what's missing in our sex lives in 2024, according to Esther Perel

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Esther Perel’s trajectory from private practice psychotherapist to internationally renowned relationship expert is deeply entwined with technology. It was her publisher’s printing presses that distributed her 2006 breakout bestselling book, “Mating in Captivity: Unlocking Erotic Intelligence” (HarperCollins), in more than 30 languages. The videos of her subsequent hit TED talks that brought her theories on desire and straying eyes to tens of millions of viewers. (The latter of which she expanded upon in her 2017 book, “The State of Affairs: Rethinking Infidelity”) Multiple podcasts that extended Perel’s therapy practice far beyond a physical office. An Instagram account where Perel sprinkles tidbits of relational wisdom into the feeds of more than 2 million followers. And, coming on Sept. 17, two hourlong online courses designed for people to strengthen their sexual connections.

“Suddenly, you can reach people in the villages of every continent,” Perel said. “That’s technology.”

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But the same technological forces that have helped Perel’s ideas reach the masses have also begun to mold and meddle with modern-day relationships: We swipe to oblivion on soul-sucking dating apps, disappear like ghosts from our romantic interests’ lives and are lured from our partners by our smartphones at crucial moments for connection.

It’s these unsettling phenomena Perel aims to tackle in her most recent U.S. speaking tour, “The Future of Relationships, Love & Desire,” which she will take to the YouTube Theater on Sept. 10.

Ahead of her visit to Los Angeles, The Times spoke with Perel about Gen Z’s sexless reputation, the limitations of intimacy on online platforms and how public shaming on social media can interfere in the bedroom.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

How do you think technology has shifted the romantic landscape since you began writing about it?

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The predictive technologies that are promising to unburden us of the inconveniences of life are also creating a situation where we are gradually more anxious, not less anxious. Because we don’t get to practice the things that actually make us less anxious: experimentation, meeting with the unknown, dealing with uncertainty, the unexpected, dealing with the lessons that you learn from bad choices. That’s what makes you less anxious, not an algorithmic perfection.

If you spend so much time with algorithmic perfections, you begin to experience and create warped expectations, and you carry those expectations for perfection into your relationships with other people, and you become less able to deal with conflict, friction, difference.

Many studies say that Gen Z is having less sex, with fewer partners. A UCLA survey from 2023 said that a little more than 47% of people between the ages of 13 and 24 feel most TV shows and movie plots don’t need sexual content, and want more focus on platonic relationships. What do you make of this?

It’s symptomatic of something that is happening in society, in our changing culture. Technology being one piece of it. Relationships are imperfect and unpredictable. So is sex. And you’re vulnerable and you’re exposed, even. And, by the way, sex is never just sex. Even if you hook up.

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So you’re less prepared for the vulnerability, for the unknown, for the consequences, for the challenges of communication that sex demands. If everything needs to be negotiated, as things are today, in relationships, and there is no longer a major religious or social hierarchy that tells you how to think, you have to make your own choices and decisions yourself.

Then in order to negotiate everything, you need to be able to communicate, and those very communication skills — the ability to deal with uncertainty and the unexpected — are the very skills that are weakening in the digital age. Sex is the messiness of human life, the bumps, the smells, the caring.

This, to me, is one of the central questions for the future: How are we going to manage the messiness of human life? That’s the opposite of an algorithmic perfection.

But the point is not that Gen Z wants less sex. They want less sex because they’re more isolated to begin with. They have less friends. They don’t go out, they work alone the whole day. You can go on an app, you can hook up, and after a while that gets a little boring for some. So it’s not the sex, it’s everything that sex is interwoven with.

Do you think it’s possible to foster that kind of intimacy you’re describing on digital platforms?

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“The State of Affairs” and “Mating in Captivity” by Esther Perel.

Yes and no. For a lot of people, it allows them to meet in ways they could never have met. But I do think that this is emotional capitalism, in which you have 1,000 choices at your fingertips, in which you partake in a frenzy of romantic consumerism, in which you are afraid to commit to the good because you fear that you’re going to miss out on the perfect.

We find ourselves evaluating ourselves like products, and that commodification is soulless. Do people meet on dating apps? Absolutely. I think 60% of people these days meet online. But I think there’s going to be a generational shift. There’s more and more attempts by people who are done with the apps to meet in person, even if it’s speed dating, even if it’s meeting in other circumstances, or even if it’s coming to my show.

“Sex is never just sex. Even when you think it’s hit and run and it’s supposed to not mean anything, the effort not to make it mean something is meaningful.”

— Esther Perel

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My most important message in response to this is: Don’t go on a date in a bar, in a restaurant, at a table face-to-face, that resembles a job interview where you’re asking each other a set of stale questions that tell you nothing while you’re waiting to see if you’re getting butterflies.

Go do something with your friends and bring your date along. Integrate the dating into your life. You will have 1,000 data points by just seeing how this person interacts with people, how they answer questions or how they make comments. But primarily, you’re not isolating yourself, cutting yourself off from your life to go play the lottery, to then lose, and to then have to come back with your shame, to your life, to your friends, to tell them it didn’t work. We can do better.

You’ve talked about how, once you walk into the bedroom, you should throw political correctness out the window. But these days we see a lot of online shaming related to that very thing. How do conversations about sexual politics on social media influence our personal intimate lives?

There’s two questions in what you’re asking. One is: Is there a new type of moralizing that is occurring? And then the second one is: What is the nature of erotic desire?

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I see sexuality as a coded language, as a window into the self, into a relationship that demands deep listening, and that listening is that actually sexuality is a coded language for our deepest, emotional needs, wishes, fears, aspirations, wounds. That’s why I always say: Sex is never just sex. Even when you think it’s hit and run and it’s supposed to not mean anything, the effort not to make it mean something is meaningful.

In that sense, it is irrational. Why we like certain things, we don’t fully know. We don’t fully know why what I like, you find disgusting. We don’t fully know why this memory turned into a fantasy. We don’t fully know the inner workings of the erotic mind. The brain is a black box as it is, but this adds a whole other layer to its sexual fantasies. It’s a uniquely human production that makes no sense sometimes, because it defies our values. It defies our perception of reality. It defies our perception of who we are as good citizens.

Nobody wants some of these things in real life, but turned into play, they can become highly arousing, exciting and satisfying. And it goes even further when you go into the world of kink. The erotic mind is often politically incorrect, meaning it doesn’t abide by the rules of good citizenship that you yourself abide by in the rest of your life.

But let’s not be mistaken: nobody wants to be forced into anything in real life. Because when you play it, you’re not being forced. There is no greater freedom than voluntary surrender. But “voluntary” is the essential word, so it’s extremely carefully said. Because I know how tender and sensitive this is.

But that’s one of the ways I’ve helped people make sense of their sexual lives, their preferences, for over 40 years. Consent has become a central organizing principle, because consent goes with desire. If desire is to own the wanting, in order to own it, it has to be consensual. Sometimes it’s consensual, but not necessarily wanted, because we can live with all kinds of contradictions inside of us. I say yes to you, but not really to me — things like that. So consent is extraordinarily important, but it is not the only key element of sexuality. There are other pieces to this story.

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We are shaming on a ton of different things these days. When I say we’ve taken the shame to the public square of social media, it’s because this is not that different from the kind of puritanical thinking of “The Scarlet Letter” and excommunications of all sorts that have existed throughout history. We have often, you know, exiled people to maintain our own moral superiority in various ways.

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I’m not talking about people who deserve to be schooled for what they’ve done or arrested. I’m talking about how the collective and sexual scandals have forever been scandals that consolidated what was thought of as the moral fabric of the community that blamed, scolded or exiled you.

I know that the breadth of your work is not something that you can boil down to tips. But what do you want people to walk away with, to keep in your everyday life, from your speaking tour?

I’m not here to give you a talk. I’m here to co-create a conversation together, and like the best therapy sessions, they don’t end at the end of the session. It’s what happens afterwards. It’s who you talk to that you were sitting with and didn’t know an hour before. It’s who is waiting for you at home that you should have a difficult conversation with. And if you can internalize me and take me with you into your various areas of your life where you need some of that input, then I have done something meaningful.

Here’s one thing I say in the tour, and I say it in the courses too: Relationships are stories. What I would like to invite you to do is to consider your stories with a new curiosity, with more nuance and ambiguity. I want you to think about what are the parts of your story, relational and sexual story that you want to keep and develop further, and what are the parts of your relational story that you want to leave behind or change? That’s my invitation.

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Turns out Beetlejuice (Michael Keaton) hasn’t changed much in 30-odd years — he’s less of a villain, but still a pain in the neck.

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The impish demon known as Beetlejuice has been dead for centuries, but he’s enjoyed a pretty long life in popular culture. Tim Burton’s hit film spawned a trippy animated TV series, which I happily devoured as a kid in the late ’80s, and, more recently, a Beetlejuice stage musical that’s now touring the U.S. Even so, I wasn’t hankering for a sequel to the Burton movie, which might have turned out to be just another fan-servicing, nostalgia-milking cash grab.

Fortunately, there isn’t a whiff of cynicism to Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Burton shows real affection for the first film’s characters and genuine curiosity about how they’re doing three decades or so later. Winona Ryder is back as Lydia Deetz, who escaped Beetlejuice’s clutches as a teenager; now she’s a paranormal expert with her own talk show.

Lydia has long since buried the hatchet with her artist stepmother, Delia — the sublime Catherine O’Hara. But she’s having a tougher time with her own teenage daughter, Astrid — that’s Jenna Ortega from the show Wednesday, whose creators, Alfred Gough and Miles Millar, wrote this movie.

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When Lydia’s father dies suddenly, the family reunites at their old Connecticut home for the funeral. It’s here that Lydia accidentally winds up summoning Beetlejuice, thanks in part to her sleaze of a fiancé, played by Justin Theroux. With a sudden whoosh, Beetlejuice is back — played by Michael Keaton with the same messy green hair, rotting teeth and mischievous streak as before.

Lydia winds up joining forces with Beetlejuice, begging him to help her after Astrid falls into a trap and gets sucked into the underworld. But Beetlejuice has worries of his own. Centuries ago, when he was still alive, he married a woman named Delores, played by a witchy Monica Bellucci. Things didn’t end well, and now Delores is back and stalking him.

It’s a silly twist and a fairly inconsequential part of the breezy, anything-goes plot. But that breeziness is part of the movie’s charm. Like its predecessor, Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is basically a supernatural screwball rom-com, in which marriage is never a matter of “’til death do us part.” The movie is refreshingly unsentimental about love, whether it’s Astrid getting hoodwinked by a teenage crush or Lydia being courted by not one but two unsavory suitors.

Beetlejuice is less of a villain this time around, though, as played by a fast-talking, shapeshifting Keaton, he’s still a pain in the neck. He hasn’t really changed much in 30-odd years; in the afterlife, that’s a drop in the bucket. But the living characters have changed, in interesting ways. Delia, no longer just a sculptor but a multimedia artist, is mellower than before, though O’Hara gives her a dash of dottiness, perhaps channeling her Moira Rose from Schitt’s Creek. Lydia, played with such moody self-possession by Ryder in the first film, is now a bundle of nerves, determined to save her daughter and their relationship at any cost.

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At a certain point, Beetlejuice Beetlejuice becomes a kind of hellish door-slamming farce, with multiple characters hurtling through portals between the realms of the living and the dead. But while the movie can be distractingly busy, it never feels frenetic or exhausting.

The underworld production design is ravishingly grim, and some of the sight gags — like when a dismembered corpse reassembles itself using a staple gun — are as exquisite as they are grisly. And for all the state-of-the-art technique on display, the movie retains a hand-crafted look that feels rooted in the original.

The result may not reach the first film’s darkly funny heights, but then, to his credit, Burton seems more interested in updating than duplicating his earlier achievement. There is, however, one scene — a lovely choral performance of Harry Belafonte’s calypso classic “Day-O” — that nicely calls back to the first movie’s most memorable moment. It was enough to make me imagine the late, great Belafonte himself hanging out with the various misshapen denizens of this fantasy afterlife — and having, to his surprise as well as mine, a remarkably good time.

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