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Once-overlooked Oceanside has a new vibe. Visit now before it becomes a tourist hotspot
For many years, a whole lot of vacationers neglected Oceanside. It was the blue-collar metropolis that operated within the shadow of Camp Pendleton, a seaside city with out the frills discovered farther south in Del Mar and La Jolla.
However possibly that popularity has reached its expiration date. It actually feels that manner now if you stand downtown, flanked by a pair of shiny new motels, watching the solar set past the outdated picket pier and deciding whether or not to eat vegan, tacos or barbecue on the weekly avenue truthful.
“It’s a wonderful seaside metropolis. It was a matter of time,” stated Harrison Dwelley, 33, who has simply taken over from his mother and father as co-owner of South Oceanside’s Seaside Break Cafe on the Coast Freeway.
Regardless of the pandemic, Oceanside has launched and sustained a brand new era of lodgings, eating places and retailers, together with a number of energetic locations within the neighborhood locals name South O.
Oceanside’s pier stretches 1,954 ft into the Pacific, attracting vacationers, avenue performers and seagulls.
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When requested about his hometown’s picture, Dwelley acknowledged the outdated days, when billboards urged passers-by to “Tan Your Conceal in Oceanside,” typically in useless. He additionally talked about the continuing TNT drama “Animal Kingdom,” by which members of the depraved Cody household strut, tussle, surf and commit felonies in one in every of California’s final blue-collar seaside cities.
That present has truly lured some younger guests, Dwelley stated. But for 5 years now, as viewers have been watching the crime-soaked municipal caricature, the precise Oceanside has been edging in the wrong way.
In the midst of two journeys to the town in January, I got here to comprehend that Oceanside now could be a vacation spot with considerably extra avocado toast, artisanal espresso and designer surfwear than is required by the common TV outlaw or real-life Marine.
The truth is, the town’s final strip membership, the Principal Attraction, which endured for years throughout the road from the Chamber of Commerce, was leveled in 2021, quickly to get replaced by an upscale residence constructing. Gentrified in Oceanside.
South O
I began my South O explorations on the Inexperienced Room, a ’60s motel that’s been rehabbed right into a 12-room boutique resort. Opened final summer time, it has surf-minimalist white interiors, no foyer, forward-looking know-how and flat black exteriors.
I paid $184 (after taxes) for an evening and favored with the ability to go straight to my room and open it with my cellphone quantity. I largely favored the minimalist surfer-chic look of the place too. (Solely downside: The toilet had no place for me to put down my bathroom equipment. Extreme minimalism.)
Nonetheless in South O, I had a tasty polenta on the Plot, a vegan restaurant that opened in 2020, adopted by ceviche on the Wrench & Rodent a block away and a neighborhood brew from the Pour Home. The subsequent morning, I had half one in every of breakfast on the Buccaneer Cafe (between tiny Buccaneer Seaside and Buccaneer Park) and half two on the Captain’s Grounds, which is the star of a good-looking Coast Freeway shopping-and-snacking strip.
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Alongside that strip you‘ll discover a espresso roastery, bikini store, natural hair-removal salon, yoga studio, apothecary and the Captain’s Helm, which sells classic jewellery, old-school T-shirts, torn denims and hipster books like “By accident Wes Anderson.”
As I realized, the Captain’s Helm is only the start of South O’s temptations for many who think about “thrift” a verb. Property Sale Warehouse takes up most of a metropolis block alongside the Coast Freeway, and Fortunate Road Productions antiques is throughout the road. Farther north, however nonetheless south of Oceanside Boulevard, there’s the deceptively massive Sea Hive Market with 13,000 sq. ft of classic vinyl, garments, artwork, furnishings and different bizarre outdated stuff.
Municipal Taco opened in 2020 in South Oceanside with a daring mural.
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I had a glance in all of these locations (and was sorely tempted to purchase a forty five of Elvis Presley singing “Within the Ghetto”). For lunch and lager I ended at Municipal Taco, a brewpub that opened in spring 2021 with maybe the best mural in a city filled with cool murals: It’s Mexican revolutionary Emiliano Zapata, standing by a longboard in “American Gothic” style.
Typically, “It’s youthful locals or vacationers who’re drawn to us, as a result of we’re extra artful and upscale,” Municipal Taco common supervisor Mercedes Engren advised me. “They let if they’re native to Oceanside, and you’ll inform they need new eating places in the neighborhood to stay, so they aren’t shy about giving suggestions.”
Captain’s Grounds Espresso and Captain’s Helm classic put on are fashionable spots alongside South Coast Freeway in South Oceanside.
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Subsequent journey, I’ll attempt the Privateer, a coal-fired pizzeria, or South O Brewing Co., which opened in late 2021, pushing the town’s brewery tally to about 15.
Or possibly I’ll attempt to see a gig on the Oceanside Moose Lodge #1325, based in 1948, which now books rock exhibits and guarantees that “this ain’t your grandpa’s lodge.”
Anyway, I’m now a fan of South O. However the metropolis’s adjustments attain far past that neighborhood.
The pier, the Corps and the delicacies
Since lengthy earlier than the primary Marine confirmed up, newcomers to Oceanside have been beginning with the pier. In-built 1887 and rebuilt 5 instances since then, it stretches for 1,942 ft, which makes it a focus of the town’s three-mile shoreline and one of many longest picket piers on the West Coast.
It’s acquired loads of anglers, a bait store midway out, an empty restaurant area on the finish the place a Ruby’s Diner was, and normally a number of surfers beneath, using harmful near the pilings.
Tourism officers say a brand new pier eatery in all probability will open later this yr, as will new restrooms and different enhancements just under the pier and alongside the Strand, a mile-long beachfront avenue that’s largely pedestrian and filled with runners, walkers and cyclists, particularly round sundown.
Is the beachfront scene a random humanity state of affairs just like the Venice boardwalk? No. Is it a pageant of volleyball and prosperity just like the Manhattan Seaside Strand? No once more.
It’s in between, with loads of surfers and strolling {couples}. On the afternoon I first walked the pier, a younger guitarist named Zachary LaMontagne was taking part in “Stairway to Heaven” for ideas. He was match, his haircut was brief, and I had him pegged as a moonlighting army man.
“Nope,” he stated. “I simply appear to be a Marine.”
A surfer works the water close to the Oceanside Pier.
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Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton (inhabitants about 38,000) has been the northern next-door neighbor to Oceanside (inhabitants about 174,000) because it was established throughout World Battle II. Round downtown, you continue to see a number of army surplus shops, tattoo parlors and barber outlets, the place many Marines get their “high-and-tight” haircuts weekly.
With so many lively and retired army readily available, the town has a extra blue-collar, conservative really feel than most different SoCal seaside cities. It’s additionally extra culturally numerous, in line with the latest U.S. Census numbers.
However, as new companies multiply, Oceanside is wanting a bit extra like its civilian neighbors to the south (Carlsbad and Encinitas) and north (San Clemente).
“We favored it the best way it was. However it’s acquired to maneuver,” stated Jonny Gomez, 84, proprietor of the Esquire barber store because the early Nineteen Sixties.
Exhibit A within the metropolis’s evolution is likely to be the Tremont Collective, a restaurant-retail advanced that opened in November, changing an outdated warehouse. Tenant companies embrace Communal, a very fashionable espresso shop-florist-gift boutique; Bottlecraft, a beer bottle store and bar; Atacama Surf Store; the web surf journal Stab; Brixton clothes; a courtyard biking studio known as Verve; and a poke-and-tacos-and-beer place known as Shootz.
Bagby Beer Co., a brewery and pub that opened in 2014, stands again to again with the collective and faces the Coast Freeway. J.S. Industries — the Australia-based surfboard empire of shaper Jason Stevenson — opened final yr on Wisconsin Avenue, providing $800 surfboards in a transformed storage that’s painted flat black, just like the Inexperienced Room.
“I consider we’re now as much as eight espresso outlets in downtown,” stated Gumaro Escarcega, chief operations officer of the civic nonprofit MainStreet Oceanside. With the price of dwelling rising quick — Zillow estimates that residence values are up about 25% within the final yr — “we have now to watch out due to gentrification,” he added.
Oceanside’s restaurant growth started a few decade in the past, maybe pushed by the town’s excessive industrial emptiness fee and low rents as compared with neighboring seaside areas.
Escarcega stated the town’s restaurant surge started with ventures together with 333 Pacific (seafood, since 2009), The Flying Pig (American gastropub, since 2011), Miss Kim’s by That Boy Good (Southern barbecue, since 2012) and Native Faucet Home (American gastropub, since 2014), later joined by others together with Dija Mara (Balinese, since 2017) and Matsu (Japanese, since 2019 as a pop-up, now in a everlasting area).
Since then, the inhabitants hasn’t modified dramatically, however the variety of eating places and bars has jumped from about 50 to greater than 100, Escarcega stated.
The brewpub depend is past a dozen, augmented by Oceanside Distillers (opened in 2017, tasting by appointment) and Pacific Coast Spirits, a small-batch distillery and restaurant that opened in 2019.
The Switchboard restaurant and bar, Oceanside.
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Town’s foods and drinks choices multiply additional on Thursdays, which start with the Oceanside Farmers Market.
It runs 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. on a stretch of Pier View Approach simply west of the Coast Freeway. Then, from 5 to 9 p.m., you may attempt the Oceanside Sundown Market, a avenue truthful that fills two blocks of Pier View Approach and two blocks of Tremont, typically that includes stay music and scores of retailers, together with Frida’s Grill, the place I grabbed a pair of fantastic tacos whereas the night’s Grateful Lifeless cowl band was getting began.
“Good night,” the frontman stated, stepping as much as the microphone. “We’re Not All Lifeless.”
The Fin, the Brick and the massive fellas
The 2 huge new motels close to the pier are the Mission Pacific Lodge and its sibling, the Seabird Resort, each opened in Might. They’re each six tales, throughout the road from the seaside, close to the pier and managed by sub-brands of the Hyatt chain.
The Mission Pacific and Seabird motels, simply south of the Oceanside Pier, opened in Might 2021.
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Of the 2, the 161-room Mission Pacific Lodge caught my eye first. It goals to be extra modern and its Rooftop Bar is a superb spot for sunset-viewing.
Look from that roof deck and also you’ll see that the U-shaped resort is wrapped round a tiny Victorian seaside cottage. Why?
The reply is Hollywood. That little residence was Kelly McGillis’ home within the 1986 Tom Cruise Navy-pilot film “Prime Gun.” It was moved to the resort website from elsewhere on the town and is anticipated to open quickly as a dessert bar known as the Prime Gun Home.
As for the 226-room Seabird Resort simply south of the Mission Pacific, it goals to be extra timeless. It options loads of convention rooms on its floor ground, together with the inland-facing Piper restaurant. Charges at each motels begin at about $250 nightly plus a hefty $42 “visitor amenity charge.”
The Inexperienced Room, previously a `Nineteen Sixties motel, is now a 12-room boutique resort in South Oceanside.
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The Fin Lodge, on the Coast Freeway, opened in 2018 with 27 rooms in a reclaimed Nineteen Twenties constructing with uncovered brick partitions. The resort is a part of Hilton’s boutique Tapestry assortment, but it surely seems like an indie. Weekend charges begin round $170. Its ground-floor restaurant (Hawaiian delicacies) and bar is named the Switchboard as a result of the constructing served as a communications middle throughout World Battle II. (I like to recommend the island-style French toast.)
In the meantime, there’s one other boutique lodging about to open just a few blocks away in a equally historic area. The Brick Lodge, owned by a fourth-generation native household, is because of be unveiled someday this spring. It’s a 10-room resort with a restaurant and rooftop bar in a brick constructing (now bolstered) that dates to 1888. Charges will begin round $135 nightly.
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Within the subsequent few years, extra resort openings are anticipated, together with an bold mixed-use redevelopment of the Oceanside Transit Heart, the place Amtrak trains cease.
Additionally proposed: Ocean Kamp, a 92-acre mixed-use venture on the inland website of the town’s outdated Valley Drive-In that would come with housing, a resort, retail area and, consider it or not, a synthetic wave lagoon for surfers.
Not for surfers solely
Some day, possibly, that faux lagoon will likely be defined within the California Surf Museum on Pier View Approach, which must be on the itinerary of any Oceanside go to.
The museum explains the science of wave motion, particulars the historical past of the Boogie Board and features a board minimize from a 2,700-year-old sequoia. The highest attraction, nonetheless, is the surfboard that 13-year-old Bethany Hamilton was paddling off Kauai in 2003 when a 14-foot tiger shark took her left arm.
The shark’s jaws additionally took an infinite crescent-shaped chunk out of the board. Trying on the injury, it’s arduous to consider Hamilton survived the assault, returned to the water inside a month, went on to win a number of tournaments, has written a number of books, acquired married in 2013 and has three kids.
Hamilton’s story is a exceptional story of resilience and adaptation, and it’s a pleasant one to bear in mind as you wander downtown Oceanside, the place the evolution continues.
The California Surf Museum is a mainstay of downtown Oceanside.
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IF YOU GO
The place to eat
The Switchboard Restaurant & Bar, 131 S. Coast Freeway, Oceanside; (442) 266-2781; theswitchboardrestaurant.com Hawaiian-inspired delicacies in a constructing that was a communications middle throughout World Battle II.
The Plot restaurant, 1733 S. Coast Freeway, Oceanside; (442) 266-8200; theplotrestaurant.com Bold vegan delicacies.
Captain’s Grounds Espresso, 1832 S. Coast Freeway, Oceanside; (760) 522-4271; captainsgroundscoffee.com Espresso, tea, smoothies, breakfast.
Municipal Taco, 2002 S. Coast Freeway, Oceanside; (760) 231-1999; municipaltaco.com Taqueria and bar.
The place to remain
Mission Pacific Lodge, 201 N. Myers St., Oceanside; (855) 365-5078; missionpacifichotel.com 161 rooms, a number of eating places, fashionable store. Weekend charges begin at about $360 earlier than taxes, weekdays round $300, plus a $47 visitor amenity charge. Costs are largely the identical on the 226-room Seabird Resort throughout the road, 101 Oceanside Ave., Oceanside; (855) 413-7573; theseabirdresort.com.
The Inexperienced Room Lodge, 2020 S. Coast Freeway, Oceanside; (760) 978-1191; thegreenroomhotel.com 12 rooms. Weekend charges begin round $275, weekday charges round $155.
The Fin Lodge, 133 S. Coast Freeway, Oceanside; (760) 231-1897; thefinhoteloceanside.com 27 rooms. Weekend charges begin round $230, weekdays round $150.
The place to go
California Surf Museum, 312 Pier View Approach, Oceanside; (760) 721-6876; surfmuseum.org
Earlier this year, a spiritual coach and reiki healer who goes by the name Zen Oasis posted a video to TikTok explaining the idea of “the shadow self” to her 167,000 followers.
Sitting lotus-style in a yellow halter top with a stick of sage smoldering in one hand, the Atlanta native described an exercise she did to become acquainted with her own shadow — a term coined by the early 20th century psychologist Carl Jung to describe the parts of our psyches that we have buried deep in our subconscious.
“I sat down and wrote down all the things I can’t stand about people. The things that really got me like, yech, ick,” she said, one hand raised in disgust. “Then I looked at that really long list and took my top five, and I was just like, ‘You know what? This is me. This is me all day.’”
“It might sound a type of way,” she said. “But this was the best way for me to see the things I can’t see about myself.”
The video, which has been viewed more than 36,000 times, is just one of over 48 million on the social media platform that explores the topic of shadow, and one more piece of evidence of a wide-ranging resurgence of Jungian fascination.
“People are really uncertain about the world and where it’s going to go and they are coming to Jung because they want to find solutions,” said Christophe Le Mouel, director of the C.G. Jung Institute of Los Angeles.
At a time when conversations around self-discovery are surging, the analyst’s theories on the collective unconscious, archetypes and shadow are increasingly influencing the work of social media-savvy healers, therapists and life coaches. It’s also the inspiration for new tarot-like card decks, thought provoking Etsy prints and the recently published “The Shadow Work Journal” that sold more than a million copies thanks in part to a wildly successful TikTok marketing campaign.
Sixty-three years after his death, Jung’s ideas — especially the concept of the “shadow” — are having a moment.
“Reading his work, I was like man, this stuff is 100 years old, but it resonated so deeply,” Zen Oasis said in a phone call. “It helped me synthesize what I already knew intuitively.’”
How did Jung define the shadow? And why is the idea having a resurgence today? To learn more I called up Lisa Marchiano, a Jungian analyst from Philadelphia and co-host of the popular podcast “This Jungian Life,” which itself has more than 50,000 subscribers, and author of the new book “The Vital Spark.”
In an interview, Marchiano discusses how Jung defined shadow, why we all have one and the reasons behind people’s renewed interest in the concept.
This interview has been edited for length and clarity.
What is the shadow self?
If it’s referring to Jung’s concept of the shadow, I will say that he didn’t use the term “shadow self.” He talked about the shadow.
The shadow is the part of ourselves that we’ve disowned. Jung once said the shadow is everything we don’t want to be. It’s something that we think that we’re not. “Oh, we’re not like that.” “I’m not like that.” Well, actually, we are like that, we just don’t have a conscious relationship with those parts of ourselves. But we could, and that’s the really constructive part about getting curious about shadow.
Is it a fundamental idea in Jungian psychology?
Jung had so many insights that have entered everyday parlance. Shadow is one of them but also synchronicity, introversion and extroversion, the collective unconscious. But shadow is certainly a fundamental idea of Jung’s. He felt that doing shadow work was really the first part of the work of analysis and the work of what he called individuation because it’s the entry point into the depths.
Does everyone have a shadow?
In Jungian theory we all have a shadow and it’s made up of two components. There’s a personal shadow and then there’s the collective shadow. To keep things simple I’ll talk mostly about the personal shadow.
Where do our shadows come from?
So, we’re born with all kinds of potential and in the course of growing up and developing a healthy, functioning ego, we find there are parts of ourselves that we have to push aside. This is normal. It’s necessary. It’s healthy. It happens to all of us. Some of what gets relegated to the shadow is stuff that really might cause a problem in a collective society like aggression or greed. But also a lot of what gets pushed into the shadow might be more constructive.
What are some ways to identify what’s in our shadow?
In every family there is usually something that you are not supposed to be. In some families you are absolutely not supposed to be lazy and if you wind up sitting around watching TV that is the worst thing and it means that you’re lazy. Other families you might not be allowed to be impractical or whimsical. In my family you were not allowed to be immodest or boastful. If you’re wondering about your shadow, it can be helpful to ask yourself what was the one thing you were not allowed to be in your family. That will often be a clue to what might be in your shadow.
Why is it useful to examine one’s shadow?
When shadow is totally unconscious we tend to project it. When you feel really hot outrage at someone else, you need to ask yourself: “Where is that in me? What’s that about internally?”
The other reason that it’s helpful to do shadow work is that a lot of what is in the shadow is actually full of vitality and energy that we can use in service to life and growth. Jung reportedly said once that 99% of the shadow is pure gold.
To use myself as an example, I was like, “I can’t seek center stage, I can’t look for attention, I have to be very modest.” But when I got over myself a little bit and did my shadow work, my ability to put myself out there has proven to be very vivifying and enlivening and it has helped me in my career.
How does one embark on shadow work?
The first answer to that is to get curious about what’s in shadow. Notice what gets you really hot. When do you have an outsized reaction of outrage to someone or something? When do you notice that sense of self-righteousness and that huge inflation that comes with being just and on the right side of history? It might be good to say, “Hmm. Wait a second. Who am I hating on right now? And where might that be in me?”
And then just continuing to be open to that. Where might we be a little greedy, a little selfish? Where might we be behaving in shadowy ways?
Why do you think this idea is resonating so strongly right now?
I think that Jung’s ideas have a perennial quality. They always return and with renewed freshness and interest. I definitely think “The Shadow Work Journal” helped it initially, but why did it catch fire? Why did it explode in the public imagination?
I think people appreciate Jung’s ideas and return to them because they sense that there is just an inherent truth in it.
Jung said our ability to do this work could make the difference between whether or not the human race survives. And given how polarized we are, I don’t know that I disagree with that. So in a way, it’s very gratifying to hear that this kind of language is permeating social media.
But I know that things can get flattened and oversimplified and changed on social media so I’m not without some concern about it. One of my concerns is the idea that shadow work is something you can do and be done with. That’s not the way it works. You’re always working on shadow — you can’t make it go away. What you can do is strive to be more conscious of it.
“The first place I learned to be funny was on the schoolyard trying to defuse this weird tension around my body, says Ian Karmel. He won an Emmy Award in 2019 for his work on James Corden’s “Carpool Karaoke” special with Paul McCartney.
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Comedy writer Ian Karmel spent most of his life making fun of his weight, starting at a very young age.
“Being a kid is terrifying — and if you can be the funny fat kid, at least that’s a role,” Karmel says. “To me, that was better than being the fat kid who wasn’t funny, who’s being sad over in the corner, even if that was how I was actually feeling a lot of the time.”
For Karmel, the jokes and insults didn’t stop with adolescence. He says the humiliation he experienced as a kid navigating gym classes, and the relentless barrage of fat jokes from friends and strangers, fueled his comedy.
For years, much of his stand-up comedy centered around his body; he was determined to make fun of himself first — before anyone else could do it. “At least if we’re destroying me, I will be participating in my own self-destruction so I can at least find a role for myself,” he says.
Karmel went on to write for The Late Late Show with James Corden. He has since lost more than 200 pounds, but he feels like he’ll have a lifelong relationship with fatness. He wrote his new memoir, T-Shirt Swim Club: Stories from Being Fat in a World of Thin People, along with his sister Alisa, who channeled her experience into a profession in nutrition counseling.
“Once we lost a bunch of weight … we realized we’d never had these conversations about it with each other,” Karmel says. “If this book affects even the way one person thinks about fat people, even if that fat person happens to be themselves, that would be this book succeeding in every way that I would hope for.”
Interview highlights
On using the word “fat”
There’s all these different terms. And, you know, early on when I was talking to Alisa about writing this book, we were like: “Are we going to say fat? I think we shouldn’t say fat.” And we had a conversation about it. We landed on the determination that it’s not the word’s fault that people treat fat people like garbage. And we tend to do this thing where we will bring in a new word, we will load that word up with all of the sin of our behavior, toss that word out, pull a new one in, and then all of a sudden, we let that word soak up all the sin, and we never really change the way we actually treat people. …
I’ve been called fat, overweight or obese, husky, big guy, chunky, any number of words, all of those words just loaded up with venom. … We decided we were going to say “fat” because that’s what we are. That’s what I think of myself as. And I’m going to take it back to basics.
On the title of his memoir, T-Shirt Swim Club
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Thank God for learning about the damage that the sun does to our bodies, because now all sorts of people are wearing T-shirts in the pool. But when we were growing up, I don’t think that was happening. It’s absurd. We wear this T-shirt because we … want to protect ourselves from prying eyes — but I think what it really is is this internalized body shame where I’m like, “Hey, I know my body’s disgusting. I know I’m going to gross you out while you’re just trying to have a good time at the pool, so let me put this T-shirt on.” And it’s all the more ridiculous because it doesn’t change anything. It doesn’t actually cover you up, it hugs every curve!
On how bullying made him paranoid
You think like, if four or five people are saying this to my face, then there must be vast whisper campaigns. That must be what they’re huddled over. … Anytime somebody giggles in the corner and you are in that same room, you become paranoid. There’s a part of you that thinks like, they must be laughing at me.
On how fat people are portrayed in pop culture
Fat people, I think, are still one of the groups that it’s definitely OK to make fun of. That’s absolutely true. … I’m part of this industry too, and I’ve done it to myself. … Maybe it’s less on the punch line 1719964293 and more on the pity. You know, you have Brendan Fraser playing the big fat guy in The Whale. And at least that’s somebody who is fat and who has dealt with those issues. Maybe not to the extent of like a 500- and 600-pound man, but still to some extent. And good for him. I mean, an amazing performance, but still one where it’s like, here’s this big, fat, pathetic person.
On judgment about weight loss drugs and surgery
It’s this ridiculous moral purity. What it comes down to for me is you [have] your loved ones, you have your friends. And whatever you can do to spend more time on earth with those people, that’s golden to me. That’s beautiful, because that is what life is truly all about. And the more you get to do that, the healthier and happier you are. So those people out there who are shaming Ozempic or Wegovy or any of that stuff, or bariatric surgery, those people can pound sand. And it’s so hard in a world that is built for people who are regular size, and in a world that is also simultaneously built to make you as fat as possible with the way we treat food. It’s like, yo, do the best you can!
Therese Madden and Joel Wolfram produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Beth Novey adapted it for the web.
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