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The gang goes to 'Abbott': How Quinta Brunson and Rob McElhenney made a crossover episode

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The gang goes to 'Abbott': How Quinta Brunson and Rob McElhenney made a crossover episode

There was a moment during the filming of the “Abbott Elementary” and “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” crossover episode that blew Quinta Brunson’s mind. It was the first scene where the core casts of both shows were in the same room.

“The initial moment of all of us on set just rocked me to my core,” said Brunson, star and creator of “Abbott,” in a joint interview with her “Sunny” counterpart, Rob McElhenney. “You have to understand because I’m a fan — it was crazy to see all of you in the school.”

The very idea of putting these two shows together is a somewhat crazy idea that just happens to work. “Sunny” is the profane FXX series that’s set at an Irish dive bar and has been on the air for nearly 20 years. “Abbott” is ABC’s heartwarming breakout hit about the teachers at an underfunded public school, now in its fourth season. But they are both set in Philadelphia, which gave their creators the idea to do an old fashioned crossover, the likes of which used to happen on “Happy Days” and “Laverne and Shirley.”

The first part of the event is scheduled for the midseason return of “Abbott” on Jan. 8. It finds the gang of Paddy’s Pub forced to do community service at Abbott Elementary, a logical explanation for how a bunch of criminals end up around children. It will be followed later by a “Sunny” installment featuring the “Abbott” teachers that concludes the story — the 17th season of “Sunny” recently wrapped production.

Brunson and McElhenney got on a video call with the Los Angeles Times to discuss the process of bringing it all to life.

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This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.

“The initial moment of all of us on set just rocked me to my core,” said Brunson, creator and star of ABC’s “Abbott Elementary,” with “Sunny” star and creator McElhenney.

(Marcus Ubungen/Los Angeles Times)

Quinta, what was your first experience with “Sunny”?

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Quinta Brunson: Even though I was from Philly, I hadn’t actually watched. I came from a very Christian background where that show just could not have been on in my house. So it wasn’t until college — my freshman year in college — and I was in a dorm with my friend Lauren, who is [the person with whom] I discovered all my oddball humor things. We were big into Adult Swim, just the things we weren’t allowed to watch at home. And she was like, “Have you ever watched ‘Always Sunny?’ ” I was like, “You know what, despite being from here, no, I haven’t.” We binged, and it was hard to binge at that time. We’d torrent — sorry — the show from a website nonstop, and I think we watched seasons, at that point, maybe like one through seven. Wait, what are you on now?

Rob McElhenney: 47.

Brunson: No, I didn’t say your age. I said what is the season count.

McElhenney: 17.

Brunson: I couldn’t stop, and I thought it was insane and amazing. It made me proud. It’s how we feel about the Four Seasons. I was like, “I cannot believe this is in my city.” There’s a Four Seasons hotel in Philly that’s incredible. Sorry, just whatever. Anyway, keep going.

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McElhenney: We should shill for the Four Seasons because it’s one of the greatest hotels I’ve ever been in.

How did the crossover start to come together?

Brunson: We met at the Emmys. And Rob and the whole “Always Sunny” team had just finished doing a presentation. The theme was TV shows throughout history. They went up there, which was honestly incredible to see. I think you guys made a joke about never having won an Emmy.

McElhenney: Yeah, the premise was TV shows from the past and we were like, “But we’re in the present. Why are we here?”

Brunson: Then I won an Emmy that night, which was really, really cool. And the first people I see backstage was them, and it couldn’t have been more fitting. The first person I saw was Bradley Cooper because he FaceTimed me, and that was right before we were going to film his episode, to say congratulations. Then I run into them, and so I was just having the most Philly [night]. It was so beautiful. I think the Eagles were playing at that time. It just was really gorgeous. Never met them before. Rob and Kaitlin [Olson, who is married to McElhenney and co-stars in “Sunny,”] had told me that they watched “Abbott,” which just made my heart very warm. I think we very quickly said it: “Our shows should cross over one day.”

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McElhenney: We continued the conversation at the upfronts. Then it moved quickly past just an aside or a joke, and we started pitching back ideas right there.

A woman in a pink and purple striped dress high-fives a blonde woman in a blue and white striped sweater and jeans.

Janine (Quinta Brunson), left, and Dee (Kaitlin Olson) in the crossover episode. (Gilles Mingasson/Disney)

A man in a green jacket stands in a classroom as a child looks at him from her desk.

“Sunny’s” Charlie Day in one of the “Abbott” classrooms. (Gilles Mingasson/Disney)

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Was it just you two initially in the pitching process?

McElhenney: It was the two of us [and we] just had a basic premise, which would allow us to make both shows and have them feel authentic because obviously they are different styles of show and two different tones. But if we told the same story through two different tones, as seen through the lens of “Abbott,” and then as seen through the lens of “Sunny,” then we could satisfy both audiences. And then because there will be, I’m sure, a lot of people who have never seen “Sunny” before, that will see “Abbott” …

Brunson: And vice versa.

McElhenney: We wanted to make sure that we were making a show that would work for both of them. Once we kind of keyed in on that, it seemed like we could make it work. Then we got the go-ahead from Disney legal, which was a very important part of the process.

And then Charlie [Day] and I went into the “Abbott” [writers’] room and spent the day there.

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Brunson: What was nice was they got it and [were] just such giving creators and so willing to get into the world. It was a dream. I’d work with them any day of the week, anytime. When they left, we were like, “That was really nice. It was really fun.” It’s not the most common experience in the world.

Was it always the idea to do one episode of “Abbott” and one of “Sunny”?

McElhenney: I think that’s what we keyed in on very early. That would be the most fun because we get to play the same characters in the tone of “Abbott,” and they get to play the same characters from “Abbott” in the tone of “Sunny.” That’s what will allow us to satisfy the authenticity of each show but then also stretch and do something different.

“Abbott” is a mockumentary so how did that affect how you would play the “Sunny” characters, Rob?

McElhenney: That’s what allowed for us to still be authentic and step into the world of “Abbott” because these characters are going into a school and they’re constantly monitored by cameras, so they would put on an act. If we’re not acting the way that our “Sunny” characters would, it’s because we know we’re being filmed and we’re putting it on the show. We might not use the same language. We might not make our intentions so obvious or known. We might not be wearing our id on our sleeves. Conversely, when they came over to us, we thought it would be fun to see what their characters would be like when the bell rings and the cameras are not on them.

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Brunson: Our documentary is being filmed because they’re seeking funds for their school. So you’re going to put, probably, a better version of yourself. Then there are some characters who fit the same in both worlds, like Melissa and Ava, because they’re never really putting on for the camera. I think they’ve done something so masterful, not giving anything away, just with Dee [Olson’s character]. To me, when I first read it, I was like, “This adds another layer to all of this, that if you are a fan of both shows, you are going to have the time of your life.”

A close-up portrait of a woman with short dark hair smiling.

Brunson: Our documentary is being filmed because they’re seeking funds for their school. So you’re going to put, probably, a better version of yourself.” (Marcus Ubungen/Los Angeles Times)

A close-up portrait of a man in an orange shirt holding his hand to his chin.

McElhenney: “If we’re not acting the way that our ‘Sunny’ characters would, it’s because we know we’re being filmed and we’re putting it on the show.” (Marcus Ubungen/Los Angeles Times)

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The idea of “Sunny” characters being even remotely near a school is somewhat horrifying. How was that part of your initial discussion?

McElhenney: I feel like we came to that within three minutes of us sitting.

Brunson: I remember we talked about bigger Philadelphia events, right? But it also was: Why are we doing this if we’re not seeing them in the school environment? That’s what really feels fun. When you actually see them lined up in our school, it’s like, “Whoa.” Our show would need volunteers. They would have to be volunteering for the reason that they’re volunteering.

How did you think about matching the different characters?

McElhenney: I wanted to be with Janelle [James, who plays principal Ava]. I said that from the very beginning. I feel like she’s one of the funniest people on television right now. No offense to Quinta.

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Brunson: I feel the same way. None taken.

McElhenney: I also feel like her character fits best with what we do on “Sunny.” I think it’s also her form of comedy is my taste as well. But I just feel like she’s so unbelievably funny, and I just wanted to be in a room with her for a few days.

A woman with long dark hair looks at a man in a gray hoodie holding out his hands.

McElhenney said he wanted to be paired with Janelle James, who plays Ava on “Abbott.” “I feel like she’s one of the funniest people on television right now.”

(Gilles Mingasson/Disney)

Brunson: I think the other matches came pretty organically. I didn’t set out to be in scenes with Kaitlin, but when it all panned out, I was like, “Oh my God, I get to do so many scenes with Kaitlin. I think Kaitlin’s incredible. I think she’s one of the most underrated comedic actresses. I think people should talk about her every single day,” and then getting to perform with her, I’d stand by that 10 toes down now. She’s so good. But when I found out I got to be in scenes with her as Dee — I was over the moon. Once again, this is where the “Sunny” stuff comes in handy — remembering that [both characters] went to [the University of Pennsylvania] — it was stuff like that that goes, “Oh my God, this is just naturally turning into something very, very, very good.” I think the other key pairing was Charlie and Barbara, which is probably one of my favorite pairings in the world. That becomes this beating heart, which is sweet because our show does have heart.

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And the fact that it still got to have it in this episode in a way that I didn’t even predict. Those scenes moved me. They did.

Did you always know that “Abbott” would air its crossover first?

McElhenney: I think just by nature of the schedule. In some ways, you look at the “Abbott” episode, and it stands on its own, and it’s so great, and it’s a fully realized story. But then when you see our episode, it feels like it’s almost like a giant setup, and then this is the punchline. But then you can watch them in either order, and they both make sense.

Dennis, played by Glenn Howerton, is elusive in the “Abbott” episode. Not to spoil anything, but will things you tease in “Abbott” come to fruition in “Sunny”?

Brunson: Dennis is the key.

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McElhenney: Yes. So when you see the “Sunny” episode, you’ll realize why we did that with Dennis.

Was there anything that you were like, “We should save this for the ‘Sunny’ episode. Like ABC standards and practices isn’t going to like this, but FX will be fine with it?”

McElhenney: There’s a joke in your episode that I cannot believe is going to make the final cut. Did I see the final cut?

Brunson: You did.

McElhenney: I cannot believe that that joke was made on your show.

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Brunson: I wonder which one.

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‘Evil Dead Burn’ Movie Review – Spotlight Report

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Sam Raimi‘s Evil Dead films and TV series are a fine example of creativity within constraints, playfulness, self-awareness and outright slapstick comedy. The Evil Dead series after Raimi is very, very different. Starting with 2013’s Evil Dead by Fede Álvarez, followed by Evil Dead Rise by Lee Cronin, the new series takes itself more seriously and emphasises pure horror, violence and gore. Some have considered this praiseworthy as it avoids being a mere retread of the old films, but the reception has been mixed.

In Sébastien Vanicek’s Evil Dead Burn, Alice (Souheila Yacoub) loses her abusive husband (George Pullar) to a motor accident. When she goes home to stay with his family, the consequences of the work of their dead grandfather researching the Necronomicon and the Deadites manifest in terrible ways. One by one, the family are turned into the Evil Dead.

Horror is a genre that depends on you relating to the protagonists so you care what happens to them. In the case of Evil Dead Burn, Yacoub does a decent job with the character she’s given, but the gonzo horror elements manifest so early in the film that she may as well be collateral damage in the onslaught, especially as the film’s early point of view is that of her brother-in-law (Hunter Doohan).

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Fans of gory violence will get their money’s worth here, but there’s not a lot going on besides that. The film is a descent into madness and carnage that is so resolutely unpleasant that, after some of the early kills, it becomes numbing. It’s hard to gather what the tone is supposed to be, with lots of callbacks to the early films’ style by setting up inevitable kills with Chekhov’s weed trimmer, Chekhov’s fork and every other potentially dangerous prop the camera lingers on. The family are all deeply unpleasant at some level and so their deaths register as meaningless. Yes, the film has the obligatory something to say about how our tendency to ignore domestic abuse creates demons that destroy families, but then absolutely panders to bloodlust by absolutely revelling in some of the most extreme violence imaginable between family members (and a pet). To say this is not a film for the sensitive is to understate things considerably. This is a film that absolutely earns its content guidance warnings.

Is there any comedy? Some, but it feels out of place given the absolute brutality inflicted on the cast. While most of the other films were self-aware about setting up a ludicrously grisly end for a villain as a payoff, in Evil Dead Burn,the kills have very little flair. It’s also hard to know what the rules for getting rid of a Deadite are, as some of them are still upright and chatty after losing most of the contents of their skull and some are dispatched by the repeated application of a blunt object to the head. Towards the end, a McGuffin is added to make the kills final, but before that, who knows?

Should you watch Evil Dead Burn,? It certainly gets vocal reactions from audiences in a cinema, and if you’re a gorehound you’ll be in for a ride. If you’re a horror fan, it’s certainly a horror film, but violent instead of scary. If you’re just a fan of cinema who likes good films whether or not they’re horror films, then this will be an alienating watch. In Evil Dead Rise the decay of the family was more than background noise and factored into the circumstances of the individual deaths, but not here. It has slight pretences of being a film with Themes and Ideas, but in the end it just feels like an excuse to serve up limbs being mutilated, skulls being crushed and any number of stabbings, slicings and gougings rendered with psychopathic visual fidelity. If that’s what you’re after, that’s what it’s got.

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‘Children of Blood and Bone’ author won’t see film after feud with star Amandla Stenberg

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Tomi Adeyemi, the author of the bestselling fantasy “Children of Blood and Bone,” isn’t planning to see the forthcoming film adaptation — even though she co-wrote it.

Over the weekend, the Nigerian American author posted a video on TikTok addressing fans who have been asking her the same question, “Why don’t you post about the adaptation of your first film adaptation anymore?”

“There is a reason I will not post anything about the adaptation of my work,” the author wrote in what appear to be screenshots of a group chat. “I have not seen the film, and I will not watch it.”

The adaptation of the first installment of Adeyemi’s “Legacy of Orïsha” fantasy trilogy is slated to hit theaters in January 2027. Gina Prince-Bythewood — who wrote and directed “Love & Basketball” and helmed “The Woman King” — is directing. The film stars Amandla Stenberg, Thuso Mbedu, Tosin Cole, Damson Idris, Cynthia Erivo, Lashana Lynch, Regina King, Idris Elba, Chiwetel Ejiofor and Viola Davis.

Alongside the screenshots of her comments in the group chat, she shared a February 2025 exchange with Stenberg that shows the author severing ties with the actor.

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Adeyemi shared only her final message to Stenberg, which reads, “Do not ever use my name in an interview or video again. Do not text me. Do not call me.” That exchange is followed by a notification that she blocked Stenberg, who plays Princess Amari in the upcoming fantasy flick.

The message from Stenberg that preceded Adeyemi’s reply is not shown in full.

Stenberg, who played Rue in “Hunger Games,” Starr Carter in “The Hate U Give” and, recently, Verosha “Osha” Aniseya and Mae-ho “Mae” Aniseya in Disney’s “Star Wars” series “The Acolyte,” had been getting flack from readers of the series, who claimed colorism was an issue while casting the movie.

In February 2025, Stenberg posted a since-deleted nine-minute TikTok addressing the controversy and told followers that Adeyemi had given the actor her blessing when cast as the series’ princess.

“I am four months into training for ‘Children of Blood and Bone’ and I am getting my ass whooped,” Stenberg joked in the video, per BET.

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“This year was mostly defined for me, honestly, by contending with what it felt like to receive racist death threats just for existing in the ‘Star Wars’ universe, and that was a really difficult thing for me to move through,” she continued. “But honestly, it feels so much more painful for me to feel like I’m at odds with my own community.”

Stenberg said that she considers her skin tone when navigating her career choices and would “never go after a role” she didn’t feel well suited for. “I know that colorism is an insidious system that relentlessly impacts every facet of entertainment.”

The actor continued that it was actually a meeting with the “Children of Blood and Bone” author that gave her the confidence to pursue the role.

“I had the opportunity to meet Tomi, the novelist, for the first time. … And she goes, ‘Amandla, I want you to know that when you were a little girl and you were cast as Rue in “The Hunger Games,” and people said that Rue’s death wouldn’t be as sad because you’re a Black girl — that inspired me to write this series so that Black girls like you and Black girls of all shades could have a story written about them,’” Stenberg said in the video. “We started crying, and I said to myself, ‘God wants me here.’”

Representatives for Stenberg, Adeyemi and Prince-Bythewood did not immediately respond to The Times’ request for comment.

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‘Night Nurse’ Review: A Caretaker Explores Her Kink for Elder Abuse in the Year’s Strangest Erotic Thriller

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There are any number of erotic thrillers in which rich old men are robbed blind and/or left for dead, but Georgia Bernstein’s admirably bizarre “Night Nurse” might be the first movie of its kind where elder abuse is the source — and possible subject— of its erotic thrills. If there are others, I’m not sure I want to know.

But this woozy debut feature doesn’t rely on its audience being turned on by the relationship between a nubile caretaker and her dementia-addled patient. Their psychosexual bond, meanwhile, hinges on cold-calling vulnerable old people under the guise of a grandchild in financial distress. (“I’m in trouble, nana, send me $10,000 or I’ll be left to rot in jail!” That sort of thing). With its slim wisp of a premise stretched into a Strickland-esque dreamscape that substitutes kink for conflict, the film itself hardly seems convinced by its own wrinkled lust — all desperate kisses and non-touching poses of subservience. More important to Bernstein is what that lust reveals about her characters’ deepest needs, specifically how their need to care and be cared for can be as easily perverted as any other form of desire. 

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As moody and weightless as the noir-accented score that blows through the movie like a curlicue gust of wind in an old cartoon (credit to musicians Sam Clapp and Steven Jackson), “Night Nurse” lacks the pulse required for its stray feelings to come alive. Still, the film ambiently taps into the latent eroticism of teasing out the distance between how you see yourself and who you really are. Bernstein plays with that distance like a telephone cord wrapped around her fingers, and Eleni — played by the excellent newcomer Cemre Paksoy, powerfully helpless — only frays even more as the receiver is brought near the hook. “Everything I did before today wasn’t me,” the nurse tells co-worker Mona (Eleonore Hendricks) after starting a new job at an Illinois retirement home. “It was somebody else.” 

What she did before today remains unexplored (specifically, what she did to get herself fired from her last gig), but I’m guessing she’s probably changed less than she thought. There’s a faraway flicker in her eyes the moment she catches the vibe between Mona and Douglas (a ribald and elusive Bruce McKenzie), a white-haired seventysomething who shows early signs of dementia but still commands an undiminished sexual energy. “I’m not an invalid,” he coos as Mona bathes him in the tub, to which she replies, “yes, you are,” in a supplicant tone that hints at a rich history of power games between them. 

Later that same night, Douglas will force Eleni to call a stranger, pretend that she’s their granddaughter, and ask for money — he’ll wrap the phone cord around the nurse’s body as she talks and shove her against the wall as they kiss. She’s into it. So into it that he has to clarify the terms of his whole deal: “If you’re looking for a pogo stick, I’m really not your guy.” But Eleni isn’t looking for anything to bounce on. She just wants to be needed, and maybe to need someone in return. Someone who will see her for who she really is and allow her the fantasy of pretending she isn’t being herself when she cons vulnerable strangers out of their money — when she exploits how enthralled those strangers are by the care they have for their loved ones.

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“Night Nurse” doesn’t belabor the psychology, as Bernstein prefers to express her story through heavy-lidded suggestion. Somnambulating from the moment it starts, the film moves through a series of beautifully arranged poses that stretch their latent meaning thin across the surface (Lidia Nikonova’s cinematography lacquers every shot with a seductive dreaminess). We see Douglas smoking in a lawn chair with Mona and Eleni curled around his feet. Eleni riding in the backseat of a convertible as the wind blows through her curls. The full staff of nurses — all of them under Douglas’ sway — stumbling around his condo in a state of zonked out bliss as they roll on the prescription drugs they’ve stolen from the residents. 

Once you’ve seen one shot of this movie, you’ve practically seen them all, at least until things escalate during a rushed and unsatisfying third act that forces Eleni into an honest confrontation with herself. People will do just about anything to feel needed — they’ll give whatever degree of care allows them to receive it in return. “Night Nurse” understands that desire, but remains far too numb to treat it. 

Grade: C+

The Independent Film Company will relase “Night Nurse” in theaters on Friday, July 10.

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