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NHL mock trade proposals: One tantalizing target for each team. Could any deals happen?
The NHL trade market has been a busy place over the past few weeks, and the rumor mill is churning.
Once we get through the holiday roster freeze (Dec. 20-27), names of possible trade targets will begin swirling around teams with increased speed leading to the March 7 deadline — whether those names emerge from insight, speculation, common sense or simply because a fan base is curious if a given player would be a good fit on their team.
This week, The Athletic asked its NHL staff to identify one player or pick each team should target in a trade. Some reporters chose big swings capable of drastically altering a franchise’s trajectory, while others took a more realistic approach.
Senior writer James Mirtle looked at all the proposed targets and came up with a reasonable acquisition cost. Each transaction was then assessed with the cost in mind. Does a deal make sense?
Here’s what we came up with.
Target: Mitch Marner, RW (TOR)* — Eric Stephens
(* Full no-move clause)
Cost: Patience to wait until July 1 and then sign him to a seven-year contract with $14.5 million AAV — Mirtle
Reality: It’s a pipe dream for sure, but Marner would give their forward group a jolt and would be a big fish for general manager Pat Verbeek to land after he struck out on Steven Stamkos and Jonathan Marchessault last summer. The Ducks could clear a lot of cap space if they traded Cam Fowler and John Gibson, and moved on from pending free agents Frank Vatrano, Brian Dumoulin, Robby Fabbri and Brock McGinn. Jacob Trouba could be off their books by the 2026 trade deadline. The problem here is making Anaheim attractive enough for Marner, and an overpay is likely necessary. And would Verbeek want the established Marner to set his pay scale, or the much younger Leo Carlsson — who could likely be his No. 1 center — for his prime years? — Stephens
Target: Brady Tkachuk, LW (OTT) — Fluto Shinzawa
Cost: Charlie McAvoy, RHD (BOS)* — Mirtle
(* Full no-move clause)
Reality: The Bruins are desperate for a young, skilled and physical forward. Tkachuk has ties to the area as a former Boston University Terrier. His father, Keith, is also from Melrose, Mass. And Brady plays Bruins hockey. But giving up McAvoy would be too high a price. It would create a problem for which the Bruins have no solution. — Shinzawa
Trading for Chris Kreider would be a risk worth taking for the Sabres if he were somehow willing to come to Buffalo. (Timothy T. Ludwig / Imagn Images)
Target: Chris Kreider, LW (NYR)* — Matthew Fairburn
(* 15-team no-trade list)
Cost: Mattias Samuelsson, LHD (BUF) — Mirtle
Reality: The Sabres are in dire need of another top-six forward. Kreider’s experience and ability to finish plays around the net would be a perfect match for what ails Buffalo’s forward group. Kreider would fit comfortably into the Sabres’ cap situation, especially if they moved Samuelsson and his $4.2 million cap hit. The Sabres have a surplus of left-shot defensemen, and Samuelsson has often been injured since signing his extension. This would be a risk worth taking if Kreider were somehow willing to come to Buffalo. — Fairburn
Target: Marco Rossi, C (MIN) — Julian McKenzie
Cost: Yegor Sharangovich, C (CGY) and a second-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: The Flames have sought a young forward between the ages of 18 and 23 whom they could keep long-term as they infuse younger talent around their nucleus. Just like Sharangovich, Rossi is a versatile forward who can play wing and center. If the Wild are quick to move on from him, you can expect the Flames to kick tires. You have to think, with the potential of teams seeking his services, that the asking price will go up. (It also helps that Rossi is playing at a high level while Sharangovich is off to a slow start.) But acquiring Rossi would be an upgrade on the slightly older Sharangovich. The Flames are also unafraid of parting with draft picks to acquire young talent and they have two second-round picks in 2025. If that’s what it takes, the Flames should be all over this move. — McKenzie
Target: Brock Nelson, C (NYI)* — Cory Lavalette
(* 16-team no-trade list)
Cost: First-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: The Hurricanes have been without a true No. 2 center for years. Last year’s Evgeny Kuznetsov experiment failed, but Nelson could be a short-term fix. A pending UFA, Nelson would bring size and scoring to Carolina’s top six, and he’s not a defensive liability. A first-round pick seems fair, but I’d expect the Hurricanes to get creative — as they did in acquiring Jake Guentzel last year — if they want to pry Nelson off Long Island. — Lavalette
Target: Second-round pick — Scott Powers
Cost: Alec Martinez, LHD (CHI) — Mirtle
Reality: The Blackhawks will likely be looking to move all of their expiring contracts at the deadline. In signing Martinez to a one-year deal this past offseason, general manager Kyle Davidson was hopeful Martinez would bring stability to the defense, help bring along the young defensemen and then draw trade interest. The Blackhawks would gladly welcome a second-round pick for him. — Powers
Target: Yanni Gourde, C (SEA)* — Jesse Granger
(* 23-team trade list)
Cost: First-round pick or top prospect — Mirtle
Reality: After completely re-working his goaltending, general manager Chris MacFarland hinted that he likely wasn’t done adding. The most likely addition is another middle-six forward, and Gourde checks a lot of boxes. He plays with energy and physicality and has proven he can elevate his game when it counts in the playoffs. A first-round pick or top prospect is a lot to give up, especially considering Colorado already traded its 2025 first-rounder to Philadelphia for Sean Walker. That might price the Avs out of this trade, but if they can find a way to make it work Gourde would be a perfect add. — Granger
Target: First-round pick — Aaron Portzline
Cost: A healthy Boone Jenner, C (CBJ)* — Mirtle
(* 8-team no-trade list)
Reality: There’s only one way a Blue Jackets general manager should ever consider trading Jenner: if Jenner wants to be traded. Jenner is not only the captain but the heart and soul of a franchise that is finally headed in the right direction and is not far from being consistently competitive. He’s also really grown in recent seasons in his ability to lead. Ivan Provorov for a first-rounder? Sure. Not Jenner. — Portzline
Target: Mikael Granlund, C (SJS) — Mark Lazerus
Cost: Two picks (second- and fourth-rounders) — Mirtle
Reality: What better way to replace a 32-year-old center who was a top-10 pick in the 2010 draft than with another 32-year-old center who was a top-10 pick in the 2010 draft? Tyler Seguin’s surgery gives the Stars both the need and the cap space to add some firepower to their middle six, and Granlund is having a career year in the final season of his contract. Two picks is a small price to pay. If the Islanders fall out of the playoff picture entirely and are willing to part with Brock Nelson, that’s another potential target. — Lazerus
Target: Trevor Zegras, C (ANA) — Max Bultman
Cost: Nate Danielson, C (DET) — Mirtle
Reality: The Red Wings could use more offensive punch, and Zegras — even with his flaws as a player — has that. His production has been down the last couple of seasons (and he’s now injured), but for a longer-view acquisition, he still would bring the kind of creativity and playmaking Detroit needs. He’s different from the kind of forwards Steve Yzerman has drafted with the Red Wings, but that’s sort of the point. He may not have those 200-foot elements Detroit covets, but he can break open a shift with his vision and passing. In this case, though, the cost isn’t worth it. Danielson is younger, cost-controlled, and still a skilled playmaker in his own right (even if not at Zegras’ level), while also bringing a more complete game. Zegras is a worthy target for the Red Wings, but not at this price. — Bultman
Target: Marcus Pettersson, LHD (PIT)* — Daniel Nugent-Bowman
(*Eight-team no-trade list)
Cost: First-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: Darnell Nurse’s improvement and Brett Kulak’s effectiveness on the right side means the Oilers might be more inclined to make a bigger swing up front. Here’s banking that an Evander Kane return keeps their focus on the blue line. Oilers general manager Stan Bowman told The Athletic last month that the price point for a defenseman could be more important in their decision-making than handedness. A first-rounder is a steep cost for a pending UFA, especially since the Oilers have their 2025 pick tied up in a trade with Philadelphia. The Oilers would likely need the Penguins to retain some of Pettersson’s $4,025,175 cap hit. But he’d be a good fit on the ice and is good buddies with winger Viktor Arvidsson. — Nugent-Bowman
Target: Tyson Barrie, RHD (CGY) — Sean Gentille
Cost: Third-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: Florida could use another option on its blue line, and general manager Bill Zito has said as much. That’s easier said than done, though, given the defending champs’ long- and short-term cap obligations and generally dry prospect pool. Barrie is a right shot who can help on the power play and would carry a minimum cost ($1.25 million AAV). The Panthers could use all of that, given that neither Adam Boqvist nor Uvis Balinskis has looked like much of an answer, and third-round picks don’t matter much for a win-now team. — Gentille
Target: Joel Farabee, LW (PHI) — Eric Stephens
Cost: First-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: This one is tricky. The Kings have played above expectations and they’re clearly out to win now, but it’s hard to buy into them being a true contender after a third straight first-round exit last spring. And while they kept their first-round pick for 2024, they mortgaged prior first-round choices for Kevin Fiala and Vladislav Gavrikov. Farabee, 24, has had a rough start for Philadelphia this year but he averages 19 goals every 82 games in his career and has the capability for more at a reasonable $5 million price point. While Trevor Moore is the latest in a cycle of left wings to play on the top line with Anze Kopitar, the defensively stout Kings could use another scoring winger to strengthen themselves against top-flight competition. But it’s going to take quite a package to get an affordable young forward who still has three years left on his contract after this season. Could a lottery-protected 2026 first-rounder and Alex Turcotte start the conversation? — Stephens
Minnesota Wild
Target: Brock Nelson, C (NYI)* — Michael Russo
(*16-team no-trade list)
Cost: First-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: It’s likely that the Wild plan to target Nelson, although they’ll first need to get back out of LTIR so they can accrue the cap space. They also already traded their 2025 first-round pick for David Jiricek, which means they’ll have to trade a future first-rounder or get creative with a top prospect and second-round pick. Nelson, whose game Wild (and Team USA) general manager Bill Guerin respects so much that he put him on the U.S. 4 Nations Face-Off roster, is somebody who can play up and down the lineup, at wing or center, kill penalties, win draws and play on the power play. — Russo
Target: David Spacek, RHD (MIN/AHL) — Arpon Basu
Cost: Joel Armia, RW (MTL) — Mirtle
Reality: This is less so about Spacek specifically than what he represents: a young, right-shot defenseman belonging to a contending team who is not necessarily a blue-chip prospect but is close to being NHL-ready. There are several around the league. And if the cost for landing one of them is Armia, the Canadiens would surely do it, and they would be far more willing to do something like this than trading Armia for a draft pick or two. — Basu
Target: Trevor Zegras, C (ANA) — Joe Rexrode
Cost: Joakim Kemell, RW (NSH) and a second-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: The Preds shouldn’t do this, in part because this season is rapidly turning to toast anyway, and because Kemell is a big part of this franchise’s future — which at this point looks like a lot of pain in the near term with aging, fading stars collecting large checks. The Zegras idea is rooted in the Preds’ never-ending search for more oomph down the middle. Though Zegras has played on the wing a lot this season, he has the tools. But this team looks unsaveable. — Rexrode
Target: Nick Bjugstad, C (UTA) — Peter Baugh
Cost: Two picks (second- and fifth-rounders) — Mirtle
Reality: General manager Tom Fitzgerald told The Athletic’s Pierre LeBrun he’s looking to add forward depth, and Bjugstad could make sense. He can play center or wing and had 22 goals for Arizona in 2023-24. The Devils will likely have three 2025 second-round picks (they will lose one if Jake Allen plays more than 40 games and they make the playoffs), so Fitzgerald has some assets to play with when looking to add depth, be it for someone like Bjugstad, another bottom-six forward or someone in the top nine. — Baugh
Target: Shane Pinto, C (OTT) — Arthur Staple
Cost: Alexander Romanov, LHD (NYI) — Mirtle
Reality: The Islanders could certainly use some scoring up front and to get younger. Pinto, a Long Island native, would help on both fronts. There’s zero chance they’d trade Romanov, though. He’s been a top-pair defenseman for the Islanders for the last year-plus. — Staple
Marcus Pettersson would fill a top-four need for the Rangers. (Mike Mulholland / Getty Images)
Target: Marcus Pettersson, LHD (PIT)* — Peter Baugh
(*Eight-team no-trade list)
Cost: First-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: With Jacob Trouba gone, the Rangers will want to upgrade a defensive group that’s currently playing a rookie Victor Mancini, a struggling Ryan Lindgren and a player in Zac Jones who has zero games of playoff experience — and had to call up Connor Mackey on Friday to sub in for K’Andre Miller, though that appears to be a short-term situation. Pettersson would fill a top-four need, though general manager Chris Drury would have to decide if a first-round pick is too much to part with for a rental. — Baugh
Target: Rasmus Andersson, RHD (CGY)* — Julian McKenzie
(*Six-team no-trade list)
Cost: Shane Pinto, C (OTT) and a second-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: Pending his no-trade list, Andersson would be a fantastic fit in Ottawa. He’s a top-pairing defenseman who can munch minutes and play every situation you need while being effective at both ends of the ice. You could pair him with Jake Sanderson up top or play him alongside Thomas Chabot if need be. Yes, it would mean moving on from a key player to acquire him. Also, the Senators are already facing the loss of a first-round pick either in 2025 or 2026. So, the Senators are going to lose out on some draft capital at the top of their next two drafts if they do this. Moving on from Pinto affects the team’s center depth, but the blow could be stomached by acquiring an established defenseman entering his prime. For the Senators, who are trying to elevate themselves to contender status, Andersson’s acquisition would be a culture shock. Possibly for the better. — McKenzie
Target: Shane Pinto, C (OTT) — Kevin Kurz
Cost: Tyson Foerster, RW (PHI) — Mirtle
Reality: Although the Flyers are in need of a center, particularly someone who might work well with Matvei Michkov, giving up a promising young winger in Foerster is probably too much. Foerster is one of the few Flyers forwards with size, and his two-way play has made him a favorite of coach John Tortorella, even if Foerster got off to a slow start this season. A more palatable deal might look like Joel Farabee and a draft pick, as the Flyers have three first-round and three second-round picks going into the 2025 draft. — Kurz
Target: Marco Rossi, C (MIN) — Rob Rossi
Cost: Bryan Rust, RW (PIT)* — Mirtle
(*Full no-move clause)
Reality: Evgeni Malkin has only one season remaining on his contract. Even if he opts to play beyond it, he’d likely only go an additional season — allowing him and Sidney Crosby to potentially take a combined bow in 2027. But that’s a big if, and it’s not unreasonable to envision Malkin moving to wing on Crosby’s line in his final days with the Penguins, presuming they can find a young, skilled center to supplant him. Rossi is exactly the type of young center around whom Kyle Dubas’ (don’t call it a) rebuild could be fast-tracked. The Penguins embrace skill and scoring more than any franchise, and Rossi would bring both along with an infusion of youth. Bryan Rust has a full no-movement clause through this season and his wife is from the Pittsburgh area. He doesn’t want to leave, but he hates losing — and perhaps a reunion with Wild general manager Bill Guerin, who oversaw Rust’s development with the Penguins, would entice him. He would bring a Cup veteran’s presence and versatility to Minnesota, and the Penguins would get a prized building block at a pivotal point for the franchise. Seems like a win-win. — Rossi
Target: Nikolaj Ehlers, LW/RW (WPG)* — Eric Stephens
(*Ten-team no-trade list)
Cost: Patience to wait until July 1 and then sign him to a seven-year contract with $8 million AAV — Mirtle
Reality: Fast-tracking the rebuild isn’t the wisest move on the surface but landing Ehlers as a free agent — a situation in which no assets are lost — would show the team wants to win in the coming years. It’s a big financial commitment but they can comfortably put Macklin Celebrini atop their pay scale with the cap continuing to rise. Salaries such as Mikael Granlund, Cody Ceci, Luke Kunin, Nico Sturm and Jan Rutta could be off their books, and they’ll be finished with paying Marc-Edouard Vlasic after next season. Ehlers would give San Jose another proven top-six winger with speed and skill. The question is giving $8 million for that long to someone good for 25 to 29 goals and 60-plus points but who never seems to put up more despite his offensive talent. — Stephens
Target: Hunter Shepard, G (WSH) — Thomas Drance
Cost: Second-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: The Kraken need to stabilize their backup goaltending if they’re going to catch up in the Pacific Division playoff race. To this point, honestly, the Kraken are probably, talent-wise, a playoff-caliber team — with one glaring exception. In games that Philipp Grubauer has started, they’re 3-8-0 and he’s put up an .881 save percentage in those games. Seattle needs an affordable reinforcement in net, and its American League netminders lack the pedigree and track record to replace Grubauer. A player such as Shepard — an elite AHL netminder, with some NHL experience in need of a real shot — would seem to fit the bill. A second-round pick is too rich, especially given that Shepard’s contract is expiring and the Capitals have already extended his platoon mate in Hershey. He’s the sort of piece the Kraken need, but they can’t pay a second-rounder for a player who would project to appear in 15 to 20 games for them over the balance of the season. — Drance
Target: Trent Frederic, LW (BOS) — Jeremy Rutherford
Cost: First-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: Fans will wonder why I didn’t choose Toronto’s Mitch Marner or another goal-scorer. The Blues don’t have the salary-cap room, and I believe they should wait to add that player when they’re a contender. I chose Frederic not because he’s a St. Louis native, but because he could bring much-needed toughness and also because Jim Montgomery, his coach in Boston, might be able to help him rediscover his offense. I would not pay a first-round pick, though, because the Blues could simply try to sign the pending unrestricted free agent next summer. — Rutherford
Target: Yanni Gourde, C (SEA)* — Shayna Goldman
(*23-team trade list)
Cost: First-round pick or top prospect — Mirtle
Reality: The Lightning have a dangerous top-six but need more bottom-six support alongside Nick Paul and Conor Geekie. Teams with championship aspirations need four reliable lines — like Tampa Bay had in 2020 and 2021. A reunion with Gourde would help; he brings a disruptive style that thrives in the playoffs, secondary scoring and two-way play. Maybe the market will raise the price to a first-rounder, but the Lightning could try to push the price down to a second-rounder (even with salary retention). The Lightning don’t have many prospects, but have a 2026 first-rounder and two 2025 second-rounders at their disposal. — Goldman
Yanni Gourde is the type of player the Maple Leafs should be (and will be) prioritizing ahead of the deadline. (Bruce Bennett / Getty Images)
Target: Yanni Gourde, C (SEA)* — Jonas Siegel
(*23-team trade list)
Cost: First-round pick or Ben Danford, RHD (TOR/OHL) — Mirtle
Reality: Gourde looks like the third-line center the Leafs need right now. He’s highly competitive, he’s quick, he can take on difficult matchups, he can kill penalties and he can deliver some offense from lower in the lineup. He was an integral part of the Lightning during back-to-back Stanley Cup runs. Is he worth a first-round pick? I’m not so sure. But given the dearth of potentially available centers and the many teams that need one, maybe he will net one for Seattle (if the team decides to trade him at all). Should the Leafs be the team to do it? I’d be more inclined to deal Danford than the first-round pick, given that his ceiling might be that of a third-pairing defenseman in the NHL. The Leafs don’t own a first-rounder in 2025 either, so it would have to be a 2026 pick. Or maybe the Leafs can sell the Kraken on the package that New York paid for Alex Wennberg last spring, second- and fifth-round picks? Cost will obviously have to be a consideration, but Gourde is the type of player the Leafs should be (and will be) prioritizing ahead of the deadline. — Siegel
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Target: A top prospect — Mirtle
Cost: Nick Bjugstad, C (UTA) or Karel Vejmelka, G (UTA) — Mirtle
Reality: Two years ago, when Utah HC were the Arizona Coyotes, they made a brilliant trade at the deadline: Bjugstad to the Oilers for a third-round pick and a then-relatively unknown prospect, Michael Kesselring. He has since blossomed into a big, mobile top-four defenseman for Utah, with 15 points in 29 games so far this season. General manager Bill Armstrong has a solid bounty to use to extract more picks and prospects from buying teams this year. In addition to Bjugstad and Vejmelka, who has been one of the best goalies of the league of late, the Hockey Clubbers also have Alex Kerfoot, Michael Carcone, Ian Cole, Olli Maatta and Robert Bortuzzo on expiring deals. — Mirtle
Target: Will Borgen, RHD (SEA) — Thomas Drance
Cost: Second-round pick — Mirtle
Reality: The Canucks need additional help on defense — that’s been apparent all season — but it’s a need that’s about to be magnified over the medium term by Filip Hronek’s eight-week absence. Vancouver was going to need to bolster the right side of its back end anyway, but the Hronek situation ups the stakes. This front office is exceptionally aggressive about making in-season trades historically and has specifically moved proactively to boost its blue line in times of need — the club dealt for Nikita Zadorov in late November of 2023, for example, after Carson Soucy was injured. Among the pending unrestricted free-agent defenders, Borgen stands out. He’s relatively affordable cap-wise, he’s still relatively young (and would represent a potential long-term fit from a Vancouver perspective) and he’s a credible top-four option with enough offensive juice to potentially work as a fill-in caddy for Quinn Hughes on Vancouver’s top pair. He checks all the boxes. The Canucks seem to be pretty reticent about dealing significant futures or good young players for rental-type defenders, but a second-round pick for a player such as Borgen, who is young enough that the club might be willing to outbid other suitors for his services, would be a no-brainer. If the Kraken, who organizationally still have designs on competing for a playoff spot, decide to sell between now and the deadline, this would be a perfect fit at a reasonable enough price for the Canucks. — Drance
Target: Gustav Nyquist, C (NSH) — Jesse Granger
Cost: Two picks (second- and third-rounders) — Mirtle
Reality: Without a first-round pick for the next two years, the Golden Knights won’t be making the same type of splashy additions they did before last year’s deadline. Nyquist feels like the type of mid-level player Vegas likes to add to its middle-six. He’s a crafty playmaker with the puck, and while he hasn’t been as productive this season, he’s coming off a 75-point season. The Golden Knights have their second-round pick and two extra third-rounders, so the price is right. — Granger
Target: Nils Höglander, LW (VAN) — Sean Gentille
Cost: Martin Fehervary, LHD (WSH) or Trevor van Riemsdyk, RHD (WSH) — Mirtle
Reality: As good as the Caps have been, they could use a bit more pop in their middle six. Höglander has some history as a play-driver, the ability to pop in 15 goals or so (last season’s hot streak aside), and at 23, could stick in the lineup for a few years. The question is whether it’d be worth sending back the defenseman that Vancouver requires; van Riemsdyk might make sense, as fellow right-shot Dylan McIlrath has given Washington some decent low-impact minutes. — Gentille
Target: MacKenzie Weegar, RHD (CGY)* — Murat Ates
(*Full no-trade clause)
Cost: Brad Lambert, C (WPG) (or equivalent) — Mirtle
Reality: I targeted Weegar because I see him as an ideal top-pairing complement for Josh Morrissey. Weegar is tough, he’s a strong penalty-killer, he wins battles in front of his net and he’s a right-handed defenseman who plays first-pairing competition and beats it. He’s not a rental, either. Weegar’s $6.25 million contract runs through the end of 2030-31, implying a top four of Morrissey, Weegar, Dylan Samberg and Elias Salomonsson. Brad Lambert is a reasonable ask from Mirtle, and I believe the Jets could afford it, even with the long-term aging risk, but I imagine Winnipeg would prefer to keep Lambert well into the future. — Ates
(Illustration: Meech Robinson / The Athletic. Photos: Mike Stobe / NHLI; Troy Parla, Steph Chambers / Getty Images)
Culture
What Happens When We Die? This Wallace Stevens Poem Has Thoughts.
Whatever you do, don’t think of a bird.
Now: What kind of bird are you not thinking about? A pigeon? A bald eagle? Something more poetic, like a skylark or a nightingale? In any case, would you say that this bird you aren’t thinking about is real?
Before you answer, read this poem, which is quite literally about not thinking of a bird.
Human consciousness is full of riddles. Neuroscientists, philosophers and dorm-room stoners argue continually about what it is and whether it even exists. For Wallace Stevens, the experience of having a mind was a perpetual source of wonder, puzzlement and delight — perfectly ordinary and utterly transcendent at the same time. He explored the mysteries and pleasures of consciousness in countless poems over the course of his long poetic career. It was arguably his great theme.
Stevens was born in 1879 and published his first book, “Harmonium,” in 1923, making him something of a late bloomer among American modernists. For much of his adult life, he worked as an executive for the Hartford Accident and Indemnity Company, rising to the rank of vice president. He viewed insurance less as a day job to support his poetry than as a parallel vocation. He pursued both activities with quiet diligence, spending his days at the office and composing poems in his head as he walked to and from work.
As a young man, Stevens dreamed of traveling to Europe, though he never crossed the Atlantic. In middle age he made regular trips to Florida, and his poems are frequently infused with ideas of Paris and Rome and memories of Key West. Others partake of the stringent beauty of New England. But the landscapes he explores, wintry or tropical, provincial or cosmopolitan, are above all mental landscapes, created by and in the imagination.
Are those worlds real?
Let’s return to the palm tree and its avian inhabitant, in that tranquil Key West sunset of the mind.
Until then, we find consolation in fangles.
Culture
Wil Wheaton Discusses ‘Stand By Me’ and Narrating ‘The Body’ Audiobook
When the director Rob Reiner cast his leads in the 1986 film “Stand by Me,” he looked for young actors who were as close as possible to the personalities of the four children they’d be playing. There was the wise beyond his years kid from a rough family (River Phoenix), the slightly dim worrywart (Jerry O’Connell), the cutup with a temper (Corey Feldman) and the sensitive, bookish boy.
Wil Wheaton was perfect for that last one, Gordie Lachance, a doe-eyed child who is ignored by his family in favor of his late older brother. Now, 40 years later, he’s traveling the country to attend anniversary screenings of the film, alongside O’Connell and Feldman, which has thrown him back into the turmoil that he felt as an adolescent.
Wheaton has channeled those emotions and his on-set memories into his latest project: narrating a new audiobook version of “The Body,” the 1982 Stephen King novella on which the film was based.
A few years ago, Wheaton started to float the idea of returning to the story that gave him his big break — that of a quartet of boys in 1959 Oregon, in their last days before high school, setting out to find a classmate’s dead body. “I’ve been telling the story of ‘Stand By Me’ since I was 12 years old,” he said.
But this time was different. Wheaton, who has narrated dozens of audiobooks, including Andy Weir’s “The Martian” and Ernest Cline’s “Ready Player One,” says he has come to enjoy narration more than screen acting. “I’m safe, I’m in the booth, nobody’s looking at me and I can just tell you a story.”
The fact that he, an older man looking back on his younger years, is narrating a story about an older man looking back on his younger years, is not lost on Wheaton. King’s original story is bathed in nostalgia. Coming to terms with death and loss is one of its primary themes.
Two days after appearing on stage at the Academy Awards as part of a tribute to Reiner — who was murdered in 2025 alongside his wife, Michele — Wheaton got on the phone to talk about recording the audiobook, reliving his favorite scenes from the film and reexamining a quintessential story of childhood loss through the lens of his own.
This interview has been edited and condensed.
“I felt really close to him, and my memory of him.”
Wheaton on channeling a co-star’s performance.
There’s this wonderful scene in “Stand By Me.” Gordie and Chris are walking down the tracks talking about junior high. Chris is telling Gordie, “I wish to hell I was your dad, because I care about you, and he obviously doesn’t.”
It’s just so honest and direct, in a way that kids talk to each other that adults don’t. And I think that one of the reasons that really sticks with people, and that piece really lands on a lot of audiences, and has for 40 years, is, just too many people have been Gordie in that scene.
That scene is virtually word for word taken from the text of the book. And when I was narrating that, I made a deliberate choice to do my best to recreate what River did in that scene.
“You’re just a kid,
Gordie–”
“I wish to fuck
I was your father!”
he said angrily.
“You wouldn’t go around
talking about takin those stupid shop courses if I was!
It’s like
God gave you something,
all those stories
you can make up, and He said:
This is what we got for you, kid.
Try not to lose it.
But kids lose everything
unless somebody looks out for them and if your folks
are too fucked up to do it
then maybe I ought to.”
I watched that scene a couple of times because I really wanted — I don’t know why it was so important to me to — well, I know: because I loved him, and I miss him. And I wanted to bring him into this as best as I could, right?
So I was reading that scene, and the words are identical to the script. And I had this very powerful flashback to being on the train tracks that day in Cottage Grove, Oregon. And I could see River standing next to them. They’re shooting my side of the scene and there’s River, right next to the camera, doing his off-camera dialogue, and there’s the sound guy, and there’s the boom operator. There’s my key light.
I could hear and feel it. It was the weirdest thing. It’s like I was right back there.
I was able to really take in the emotional memory of being Gordie in all of those scenes. So when I was narrating him and I’m me and I’m old with all of this experience, I just drew on what I remembered from being that little boy and what I remember of those friendships and what they meant to me and what they mean to me today.
“Rob gave me a gift. Rob gave me a career.”
Wheaton recalls the “Stand By Me” director’s way with kids on set, as well as his recent Oscars tribute.
Rob really encouraged us to be kids.
Jerry tells the most amazing story about that scene, where we were all sitting around, and doing our bit, and he improvised. He was just goofing around — we were just playing — and he said something about spitting water at the fat kid.
We get to the end of the scene, and he hears Rob. Rob comes around from behind the thing, and he goes, “Jerry!” And Jerry thinks, “Oh no, I’m in trouble. I’m in trouble because I improvised, and I’m not supposed to improvise.”
The context for Jerry is that he had been told by the adults in his life, “Sit on your hands and shut up. Stop trying to be a cutup. Stop trying to be funny. Stop disrupting people. Just be quiet.” And Jerry thinks, “Oh my God. I didn’t shut up. I’m in trouble. I’m gonna get fired.”
Rob leans in to all of us, and Rob says, “Hey, guys, do you see that? More of that. Do that!”
The whole time when you’re a kid actor, you’re just around all these adults who are constantly telling you to grow up. They’re mad that you’re being a kid. Rob just created an environment where not only was it supported that we would be kids — and have fun, and follow those kid instincts and do what was natural — it was expected. It was encouraged. We were supposed to do it.
They chanted together:
“I don’t shut up,
I grow up.
And when I look at you I throw up.”
“Then your mother goes around the corner
and licks it up,”
I said, and hauled ass out of there,
giving them the finger over my shoulder as I went.
I never had any friends later on
like the ones I had when I was twelve.
Jesus, did you?
When we were at the Oscars, I looked at Jerry. And we looked at this remarkable assemblage of the most amazingly talented, beautiful artists and storytellers. We looked around, and Jerry leans down, and he said, “We all got our start with Rob Reiner. He trusted every single one of us.”
And to stand there for him, when I really thought that I would be standing with him to talk about this stuff — it was a lot.
“I was really really really excited — like jumping up and down.”
The scene Wheaton was most looking forward to narrating: the tale of Lard Ass Hogan.
I was so excited to narrate it. It’s a great story! It’s a funny story. It’s such a lovely break — it’s an emotional and tonal shift from what’s happening in the movie.
I know this as a writer: You work to increase and release tension throughout a narrative, and Stephen King uses humor really effectively to release that tension. But it also raises the stakes, because we have these moments of joy and these moments of things being very silly in the midst of a lot of intensity.
That’s why the story of Lard Ass Hogan is so fun for me to tell. Because in the middle of that, we stop to do something that’s very, very fun, and very silly and very celebratory.
“Will you shut up and let him tell it?”
Teddy hollered.
Vern blinked.
“Sure. Yeah.
Okay.”
“Go on, Gordie,”
Chris said. “It’s not really much—”
“Naw,
we don’t expect much from a wet end like you,”
Teddy said,
“but tell it anyway.”
I cleared my throat. “So anyway.
It’s Pioneer Days,
and on the last night
they have these three big events.
There’s an egg-roll for the little kids and a sack-race for kids that are like eight or nine,
and then there’s the pie-eating contest.
And the main guy of the story
is this fat kid nobody likes
named Davie Hogan.”
When I narrate this story — whenever there is a moment of levity or humor, whenever there are those brief little moments that are the seasoning of the meal that makes it all so real and relatable — yes, it was very important to me to capture those moments.
I’m shifting in my chair, so I can feel each of those characters. It’s something that doesn’t exist in live action. It doesn’t exist in any other media.
“I feel the loss.”
Wheaton remembers River Phoenix.
The novella “The Body” is very much about Gordie remembering Chris. It’s darker, and it’s more painful, than the movie is.
I’ve been watching the movie on this tour and seeing River a lot. I remember him as a 14- and 15-year-old kid who just seemed so much older, and so much more experienced and so much wiser than me, and I’m only a year younger than him.
What hurts me now, and what I really felt when I was narrating this, is knowing what River was going through then. We didn’t know. I still don’t know the extent of how he was mistreated, but I know that he was. I know that adults failed him. That he should have been protected in every way that matters. And he just wasn’t.
And I, like Gordie, remember a boy who was loving. So loving, and generous and cared deeply about everyone around him, all the time. Who deserved to live a full life. Who had so much to offer the world. And it’s so unfair that he’s gone and taken from us. I had to go through a decades-long grieving process to come to terms with him dying.
Near the end
of 1971,
Chris
went into a Chicken Delight in Portland
to get a three-piece Snack Bucket.
Just ahead of him,
two men started arguing
about which one had been first in line. One of them pulled a knife.
Chris,
who had always been the best of us
at making peace,
stepped between them and was stabbed in the throat.
The man with the knife had spent time in four different institutions;
he had been released from Shawshank State Prison
only the week before.
Chris died almost instantly.
It is a privilege that I was allowed to tell this story. I get to tell Gordie Lachance’s story as originally imagined by Stephen King, with all of the experience of having lived my whole adult life with the memory of spending three months in Gordie Lachance’s skin.
Culture
Do You Know the Comics That Inspired These TV Adventures?
Welcome to Great Adaptations, the Book Review’s regular multiple-choice quiz about printed works that have gone on to find new life as movies, television shows, theatrical productions and more. This week’s challenge highlights offbeat television shows that began as comic books. Just tap or click your answers to the five questions below. And scroll down after you finish the last question for links to the comics and their screen versions.
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