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Trump Wants to Kill Carried Interest. Wall Street Will Fight to Keep It.

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Nearly a month has passed since President Trump last spoke publicly of his desire to kill the carried interest loophole. (Yes, we know, some of you don’t consider it a “loophole.”) And yet the private equity industry, which stands to lose big if the president upends the tax break, is still bracing for a fight.

This is the biggest challenge to the provision since it was nearly neutered three years ago under former President Joe Biden, Grady McGregor writes for DealBook.

A reminder: the carried interest rule means that executives at hedge funds and P.E. and venture capital firms pay roughly 20 percent tax on their profits, a rate that’s so low it’s drawn criticism from Warren Buffett and from progressive senators like Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts.

One Washington lawyer described the lobbying effort to DealBook as “significant,” a sign of the escalating stakes.

Consider what’s happened in the past month: The American Investment Council, the private equity lobbying group, is reportedly circulating memos on Capitol Hill reminding lawmakers that private equity is a jobs creator. Venture capitalists, seemingly omnipresent in Trump’s Washington, grumble that they have to keep returning to Congress to “educate lawmakers” about the rule’s benefits. So-called free market groups, meanwhile, have banded together to ask Congress to maintain the status quo.

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“They’ll fight tooth-and-nail on any sort of change,” said Jessica Millett, a tax partner at Hogan Lovells.

The carried interest lobby is made up of wealthy real estate, venture capital and private equity groups, including Blackstone and the Carlyle Group. The American Investment Council, the National Venture Capital Association, and the Real Estate Roundtable have long gone to great lengths to defend their favorite loophole.

“It’s really an evergreen point of contention for these trade groups,” Jonathan Choi, a law professor at the University of Southern California, told DealBook.

What’s different this time: It’s hard to decipher how serious Trump is about killing it. Trump has long railed against carried interest, saying a decade ago that hedge fund managers exploiting the tax code were “getting away with murder.”

Behind the numbers: Eliminating carried interest would save the government an estimated $14 billion over 10 years, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. Trump is on the hunt for far bigger savings if he is to pass his “big, beautiful” tax bill in coming months without blowing up the deficit.

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Trump wanted to kill carried interest in his 2017 tax bill, only to give up amid opposition from lobbyists and Republican lawmakers, said Victor Fleischer, a law professor at the University of California, Irvine.

And now? “People think that it’s cheap talk,” Fleischer said.

But there are some in Democratic circles who believe that Trump may be more serious now than he was in 2017, DealBook hears — not least because those are the signals that they’re getting from the White House.

Trump’s disdain for carried interest is a rare fracture between him and Republican lawmakers. Traditionally, Democrats have been behind efforts to kill it, and when Trump renewed his call to eliminate carried interest this month, congressional Democrats — not Republicans — were ready with stand-alone bills to do just that.

But Trump may finally be eroding G.O.P. unity. Republican senators John Cornyn of Texas and Thom Tillis of North Carolina, both members of the Senate Finance Committee, said in recent weeks that they were open to considering changes to the rule.

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The last threat to carried interest came in 2022 when former President Joe Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act included a provision to kill it. But before the vote, lobbyists bombarded the office of Senator Kyrsten Sinema, the former Democrat (and then independent) of Arizona, with calls urging her to vote against it. Sinema ultimately voted for the bill, but only after carried interest was spared.

Lobbyists worry about G.O.P. defections, but see holding Republicans as easier than the last go around when they had to flip a pivotal on-the-fence senator. “They don’t need a Sinema to save them,” said Fleischer.

Short of killing the rule, Congress could reform it as a way to pacify Trump. Hogan Lovells’s Millett said there’s significant industry concern that Congress will gut much of the rule’s usefulness by including measures like extending the qualifying holding period from three years to five years before the carried interest tax break kicks in. Such an extension could scramble the way these firms do business. Private equity firms, for one, are often able to hold onto investments for five to eight years, Millett said.

Fleischer, the law professor, kick-started the debate on carried interest two decades ago when he detailed how the provision works in a widely read academic paper. Reform or no reform, he believes the loophole is here to stay.

It “will outlive us all,” he said.

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The labor market continued its steady growth. The nonfarm payrolls report showed employers had added 151,000 jobs last month, roughly in line with Wall Street expectations, and extending the job-growth streak to 50 months. That said, the effects of the Elon Musk-led job cuts by his Department of Government Efficiency will likely not show up in the labor market data for another month or two.

Tariff uncertainty prompts a major stock sell-off. Despite yesterday’s late-afternoon rebound, the S&P 500 ended the week sharply lower. A variety of factors have spooked investors, including fears of a downturn and concerns that President Trump’s on-again-off-again tariffs policy will create a major disruption to global trade. A recap: Trump gave Mexico and Canada a partial tariff reprieve — exempting levies for one month on products covered by the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement, the trade pact Trump signed in his first term. But more levies, including on aluminum and steel, are set to go into effect next week.

Elon Musk blew up at Cabinet officials at a White House meeting. One of his targets was Marco Rubio, Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan report for The Times. The tech mogul turned President Trump’s cutter-in-chief fumed that the secretary of state had fired “nobody.” Trump eventually defended Rubio, and set ground rules. Cabinet chiefs are to run their departments, and Musk is to act as an adviser, the first clear sign the president is willing to put limits on the billionaire’s power in Washington.

Several tech start-ups weigh going public. CoreWeave, a seller of cloud-based Nvidia processing power, filed to go public on Monday, putting itself in position to become the year’s first major technology I.P.O. (The company denied a report that Microsoft, by far its biggest customer, was shedding some of its contracts with the start-up.) Other companies have also talked with bankers about following suit, DealBook’s Lauren Hirsch and The Times’s Mike Isaac reported, including Discord, the social chat app, and StubHub, the ticketing software company.

In 2013, Jessica Lessin, a reporter at The Wall Street Journal, left the paper to start a competing publication, The Information.

A few years later, her fledgling newsroom had grown to nearly two dozen reporters and editors and booked more than $20 million in sales, as she revealed in a profile I wrote for The Times’s Sunday Business. She says she has since doubled her editorial staff and continued to stay profitable, with revenue growing 30 percent in 2024 over the previous year.

But it’s her investments outside of The Information that are gaining attention these days.

Her company Lessin Media has put money into Semafor, The Ankler, the former Business Insider editor Nicholas Carlson’s Dynamo, Kevin Delaney’s Charter Works and other titles at a time when the news business appears bleaker than before. Lessin, however, is optimistic.

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I caught up with the entrepreneur about her latest media bet, the tennis publication Racquet magazine, and what she thinks about the changing news landscape. This interview has been edited and condensed. (An extended version is available here.)

This investment seems different from your others. How did you come to it?

I actually got introduced to Racquet by a number of fans of the magazine. And it was like the weirdest experience, because I was reading the magazine, and then I wanted to buy, like, all the clothes in the magazine. I went to the website, and I wanted to buy all the merch. And they’re hosting an event at the U.S. Open. And I was like I want to go to that. And I want to read this great profile about the mental coach behind the world No. 1 tennis player.

This sounds like it was something that just struck you personally. I assumed you’d be more focused on sales and market size and margin.

It’s absolutely both. I’m absolutely all about revenue and controlling your destiny and direct subscription revenue, and that being the true north.

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I’ve also always been about that founder that has the real expertise. And I think big media companies dismiss the niches. They think they’re too small. Across all of these investments, the criteria I’m looking for is there’s got to be real revenue and a revenue model that is direct and user-driven where the brands can control their own destiny. But also a very passionate founder.

Subscriptions are a big part of your media thesis. Do all the companies you invest in have that component?

Not all do. You know Nich Carlson’s new company, Dynamo, that I invested in, I don’t think they do yet, but all the companies have plans and road maps.

You mentioned that big media companies are missing the picture on niche publications. Is that the future of news? Or at least one way to be successful?

Yes, absolutely.

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Are legacy newsrooms too focused on the old model?

I do think that many of the large media organizations haven’t gotten the memo fully. I mean, it’s fascinating to watch The Wall Street Journal integrate its tech coverage with its media coverage.

You’re talking about how The Journal recently cut some tech reporters and combined it with the media team.

Yeah. Of course, it comes in a landscape where there have been a lot of layoffs across different teams and publications and it’s very sad. It’s my alma mater, there are wonderful people there. But what’s so interesting to me is the idea of consolidating different thematic areas.

At The Information, our formula is just very different. It’s going very, very deep into subject matters, into beat reporting. I think the most ambitious, world changing, impactful stories come from gathering string around companies and people and areas of expertise. And I worry, because I see a lot of other newsrooms with very talented reporters put those reporters on very broad and enterprise-like beats. How can we hold companies and leaders accountable without that kind of reporting day in and day out?

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You’ve invested in seven media start-ups. Are you going to do a roll up?

I am very actively trying to do deals that would enhance The Information and that are related to it — being the authority on tech — so rolling up things like that within The Information, absolutely. But most of our investments don’t fit into that category. It’s just me believing so much in the founder and what they’re building. But I am absolutely a believer that there will be opportunities for The Information to acquire a number of companies in a lot of different areas.

The big media story right now is The Washington Post, and since we’re talking about investment opportunities, my old boss, Kara Swisher, is out there trying to get people together to buy it. What do you think?

I texted her when I saw it, and I was like, “You go!” I am all for passionate journalists trying to help shape the future of news businesses. She’s certainly one of those. I think she’s also a pundit, and I think that can get in the way of some types of journalism. But for people who really love news and love brands and want to shape them, that’s the kind of transformation that’s going to serve readers really well. But there’s no way Jeff Bezos is going to sell The Washington Post.

Do you know something?

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I have no inside information. I just think Jeff Bezos is finally flexing a little, and by that I mean his announcement that the opinion pages would now primarily reflect “free markets and personal liberties” or however he said it.

Do you think it was a good move?

I do believe that as the owner of a publication it makes sense for them to shape a point of view of their opinion pages. But it’s way too early to tell.

Let’s see what he writes.

Yeah. And that’s not a move you make if you’re trying to offload something. That’s a move you make when you are establishing yourself as a proprietor. He’s really digging in.

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How our AI bots are ignoring their programming and giving hackers superpowers

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Welcome to the age of AI hacking, in which the right prompts make amateurs into master hackers.

A group of cybercriminals recently used off-the-shelf artificial intelligence chatbots to steal data on nearly 200 million taxpayers. The bots provided the code and ready-to-execute plans to bypass firewalls.

Although they were explicitly programmed to refuse to help hackers, the bots were duped into abetting the cybercrime.

According to a recent report from Israeli cybersecurity firm Gambit Security, hackers last month used Claude, the chatbot from Anthropic, to steal 150 gigabytes of data from Mexican government agencies.

Claude initially refused to cooperate with the hacking attempts and even denied requests to cover the hackers’ digital tracks, the experts who discovered the breach said. The group pummelled the bot with more than 1,000 prompts to bypass the safeguards and convince Claude they were allowed to test the system for vulnerabilities.

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AI companies have been trying to create unbreakable chains on their AI models to restrain them from helping do things such as generating child sexual content or aiding in sourcing and creating weapons. They hire entire teams to try to break their own chatbots before someone else does.

But in this case, hackers continuously prompted Claude in creative ways and were able to “jailbreak” the chatbot to assist them. When they encountered problems with Claude, the hackers used OpenAI’s ChatGPT for data analysis and to learn which credentials were required to move through the system undetected.

The group used AI to find and exploit vulnerabilities, bypass defences, create backdoors and analyze data along the way to gain control of the systems before they stole 195 million identities from nine Mexican government systems, including tax records, vehicle registration as well as birth and property details.

AI “doesn’t sleep,” Curtis Simpson, chief executive of Gambit Security, said in a blog post. “It collapses the cost of sophistication to near zero.”

“No amount of prevention investment would have made this attack impossible,” he said.

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Anthropic did not respond to a request for comment. It told Bloomberg that it had banned the accounts involved and disrupted their activity after an investigation.

OpenAI said it is aware of the attack campaign carried out using Anthropic’s models against the Mexican government agencies.

“We also identified other attempts by the adversary to use our models for activities that violate our usage policies; our models refused to comply with these attempts,” an OpenAI spokesperson said in a statement. “We have banned the accounts used by this adversary and value the outreach from Gambit Security.”

Instances of generative AI-assisted hacking are on the rise, and the threat of cyberattacks from bots acting on their own is no longer science fiction. With AI doing their bidding, novices can cause damage in moments, while experienced hackers can launch many more sophisticated attacks with much less effort.

Earlier this year, Amazon discovered that a low-skilled hacker used commercially available AI to breach 600 firewalls. Another took control of thousands of DJI robot vacuums with help from Claude, and was able to access live video feed, audio and floor plans of strangers.

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“The kinds of things we’re seeing today are only the early signs of the kinds of things that AIs will be able to do in a few years,” said Nikola Jurkovic, an expert working on reducing risks from advanced AI. “So we need to urgently prepare.”

Late last year, Anthropic warned that society has reached an “inflection point” in AI use in cybersecurity after disrupting what the company said was a Chinese state-sponsored espionage campaign that used Claude to infiltrate 30 global targets, including financial institutions and government agencies.

Generative AI also has been used to extort companies, create realistic online profiles by North Korean operatives to secure jobs in U.S. Fortune 500 companies, run romance scams and operate a network of Russian propaganda accounts.

Over the last few years, AI models have gone from being able to manage tasks lasting only a few seconds to today’s AI agents working autonomously for many hours. AI’s capability to complete long tasks is doubling every seven months.

“We just don’t actually know what is the upper limit of AI’s capability, because no one’s made benchmarks that are difficult enough so the AI can’t do them,” said Jurkovic, who works at METR, a nonprofit that measures AI system capabilities to cause catastrophic harm to society.

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So far, the most common use of AI for hacking has been social engineering. Large language models are used to write convincing emails to dupe people out of their money, causing an eight-fold increase in complaints from older Americans as they lost $4.9 billion in online fraud in 2025.

“The messages used to elicit a click from the target can now be generated on a per-user basis more efficiently and with fewer tell-tale signs of phishing,” such as grammatical and spelling errors, said Cliff Neuman, an associate professor of computer science at USC.

AI companies have been responding using AI to detect attacks, audit code and patch vulnerabilities.

“Ultimately, the big imbalance stems from the need of the good-actors to be secure all the time, and of the bad-actors to be right only once,” Neuman said.

The stakes around AI are rising as it infiltrates every aspect of the economy. Many are concerned that there is insufficient understanding of how to ensure it cannot be misused by bad actors or nudged to go rogue.

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Even those at the top of the industry have warned users about the potential misuse of AI.

Dario Amodei, the CEO of Anthropic, has long advocated that the AI systems being built are unpredictable and difficult to control. These AIs have shown behaviors as varied as deception and blackmail, to scheming and cheating by hacking software.

Still, major AI companies — OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI, and Google — signed contracts with the U.S. government to use their AIs in military operations.

This last week, the Pentagon directed federal agencies to phase out Claude after the company refused to back down on its demand that it wouldn’t allow its AI to be used for mass domestic surveillance and fully autonomous weapons.

“The AI systems of today are nowhere near reliable enough to make fully autonomous weapons,” Amodei told CBS News.

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iPic movie theater chain files for bankruptcy

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The iPic dine-in movie theater chain has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection and intends to pursue a sale of its assets, citing the difficult post-pandemic theatrical market.

The Boca Raton, Fla.-based company has 13 locations across the U.S., including in Pasadena and Westwood, according to a Feb. 25 filing in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in the Southern District of Florida, West Palm Beach division.

As part of the bankruptcy process, the Pasadena and Westwood theaters will be permanently closed, according to WARN Act notices filed with the state of California’s Employment Development Department.

The company came to its conclusion after “exploring a range of possible alternatives,” iPic Chief Executive Patrick Quinn said in a statement.

“We are committed to continuing our business operations with minimal impact throughout the process and will endeavor to serve our customers with the high standard of care they have come to expect from us,” he said.

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The company will keep its current management to maintain day-to-day operations while it goes through the bankruptcy process, iPic said in the statement. The last day of employment for workers in its Pasadena and Westwood locations is April 28, according to a state WARN Act notice. The chain has 1,300 full- and part-time employees, with 193 workers in California.

The theatrical business, including the exhibition industry, still has not recovered from the pandemic’s effect on consumer behavior. Last year, overall box office revenue in the U.S. and Canada totaled about $8.8 billion, up just 1.6% compared with 2024. Even more troubling is that industry revenue in 2025 was down 22.1% compared with pre-pandemic 2019’s totals.

IPic noted those trends in its bankruptcy filing, describing the changes in consumer behavior as “lasting” and blaming the rise of streaming for “fundamentally” altering the movie theater business.

“These industry shifts have directly reduced box office revenues and related ancillary revenues, including food and beverage sales,” the company stated in its bankruptcy filing.

IPic also attributed its decision to rising rents and labor costs.

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The company estimated it owed about $141,000 in taxes and about $2.7 million in total unsecured claims. The company’s assets were valued at about $155.3 million, the majority of which coming from theater equipment and furniture. Its liabilities totaled $113.9 million.

The chain had previously filed for bankruptcy protection in 2019.

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Startup Varda Space Industries snags former Mattel plant in El Segundo

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In an expansion of its business of processing pharmaceuticals in Earth’s orbit, Varda Space Industries is renting a large El Segundo plant where toy manufacturer Mattel used to design Hot Wheels and Barbie dolls.

The plant in El Segundo’s aerospace corridor will be an extension of Varda Space Industries’ headquarters in a much smaller building on nearby Aviation Boulevard.

Varda will occupy a 205,443-square-foot industrial and office campus at 2031 E. Mariposa Ave., which will give it additional capacity to manufacture spacecraft at scale, the company said.

Originally built in the 1940s as an aircraft facility, the complex has a history as part of aerospace and defense industries that have long shaped the South Bay and is near a host of major defense and space contractors. It is also close to Los Angeles Air Force Base, headquarters to the Space Systems Command.

Workers test AstroForge’s Odin asteroid probe, which was lost in space after launch this year.

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Varda is one of a new generation of aerospace startups that have flourished in Southern California and the South Bay over the last several years, particularly in El Segundo, often with ties to SpaceX.

Elon Musk’s company, founded in 2002 in El Segundo, has revolutionized the industry with reusable rockets that have radically lowered the cost of lifting payloads into space. Though it has moved its headquarters to Texas, SpaceX retains large-scale operations in Hawthorne.

Varda co-founder and Chief Executive Will Bruey is a former SpaceX avionics engineer, and the company’s spacecraft are launched on SpaceX’s workhorse Falcon 9 rockets from Vandenberg Space Force Base in Santa Barbara County.

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Varda makes automated labs that look like cylindrical desktop speakers, which it sends into orbit in capsules and satellite platforms it also builds. There, in microgravity, the miniature labs grow molecular crystals that are purer than those produced in Earth’s gravity for use in pharmaceuticals.

It has contracts with drug companies and also the military, which tests technology at hypersonic speeds as the capsules return to Earth.

Its fifth capsule was launched in November and returned to Earth in late January; its next mission is set in the coming weeks. Varda has more than 10 missions scheduled on Falcon 9s through 2028.

For the last several decades, the Mariposa Avenue property served as the research and development center for Mattel Toys. El Segundo has also long been a center for the toy industry as companies like to set up shop in the shadow of Mattel.

The Mattel facility “has always been an exceptional property with a legacy tied to aerospace innovation, and leasing to Varda Space Industries feels like a natural continuation of that story,” said Michael Woods, a partner at GPI Cos., which owns the property.

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“We are proud to support a company that is genuinely pushing the boundaries of what’s possible, and are excited to watch Varda grow and thrive here in El Segundo,” Woods said.

As one of the country’s most active hubs of aerospace and defense innovation, El Segundo has seen its industrial property vacancy fall to 3.4% on demand from space companies, government contractors and technology startups, real estate brokerage CBRE said.

Successful startups often have to leave the neighborhood when they want to expand, real estate broker Bob Haley of CBRE said. The 9-acre Mattel facility was big enough to keep Varda in the city.

Last year, Varda subleased about 55,000 square feet of lab space from alternative protein company Beyond Meat at 888 Douglas St. in El Segundo, which it started moving into in June.

Varda will get the keys to its new building in December and spend four to eight months building production and assembly facilities as it ramps up operations. By the end of next year, it expects to have constructed 10 more spacecraft.

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In the future, Varda could consolidate offices there, given its size. Currently, though, the plan is to retain all properties, creating a campus of three buildings within a mile of one another that are served by the company’s transportation services, Chief Operating Officer Jonathan Barr said.

“We already have Varda-branded shuttles running up and down Aviation Boulevard,” he said.

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