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'Interview With the Vampire': Rolin Jones on Season 2's finale; what's next for Louis and Lestat
This article contains spoilers for Season 2 finale of “Interview With the Vampire.”
Though he’s now the showrunner for AMC’s “Interview With the Vampire,” Rolin Jones was initially unfamiliar with the Anne Rice novels that the TV series pulls from.
He first met with AMC executives in 2020 to discuss shows he’d potentially develop as series for the network, and just as he was preparing to leave, one executive casually mentioned that the company had recently acquired the rights to Rice’s books — might he be interested?
“The truth is I was really interested in making a love story and doing something grand and big,” Jones said in a Zoom interview earlier this month. “I wanted to see if they let me make a David Lean kind of thing.”
Jones, whose television career includes credits on critically acclaimed shows like “Friday Night Lights,” “Boardwalk Empire” and the revamped “Perry Mason,” read Rice’s “Interview With the Vampire” — her debut novel — and watched the 1994 movie adaptation that starred Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt. He quickly realized he would approach the series much differently from the film. He said AMC executives put him through a rigorous evaluation process to determine what the show could look like.
“They didn’t want just the pilot and they didn’t just want Season 1,” Jones said. “They really wanted to know what the hell is this thing and how long can we put it on the air for.”
Fans now have two critically acclaimed seasons of the gothic horror story that stars Jacob Anderson and Sam Reid as vampires Louis de Pointe du Lac and Lestat de Lioncourt, respectively. Season 2’s finale aired Sunday, ending Louis’ journey of recounting his human and vampire life to reporter Daniel Molloy, played by Eric Bogosian.
The story picks up with Louis and child vampire Claudia, played by Delainey Hayles this season, grappling with the consequences of their failed murder attempt on Lestat and the moral implications of their vampiric existence. They travel through Europe and eventually end up in Paris where they meet a coven, founded by Lestat, of theater-performing vampires. Louis finds a new love in the coven’s 500-year-old leader Armand, played by Assad Zaman.
After concealing their ties to Lestat, Louis and Claudia are eventually discovered and put on trial for breaking multiple “great laws,” the rules all vampires must abide by, and are punished. Sunday’s finale titled “And That’s the End of It. There’s Nothing Else,” follows the aftermath of Claudia’s death. Louis burns down the theater, killing most of the coven’s members, and learns that it was Lestat who saved him during the trial, leading him to reconnect with his toxic former lover.
Sam Reid as Lestat De Lioncourt in Season 2 of AMC’s “Interview With the Vampire.”
(Larry Horricks / AMC)
The series was renewed for a third season Wednesday, and it will primarily focus on the events in Rice’s “The Vampire Lestat,” which finds Lestat reclaiming his narrative as a rock star (During the interview, Jones proudly showed off his notes in the margins of his copy of the book.) The renewal comes after Jones signed a new multiyear overall deal with AMC Studios.
Jones spoke to The Times about Delainey Hayles, who replaced Bailey Bass as Claudia for Season 2; the complex bond between Louie, Armand and Lestat; and the stories the show will explore in Season 3 and beyond. These are edited excerpts from the conversation.
How are you feeling after wrapping up Season 2?
Go look at the first shot of Jacob Anderson in Season 1 and the last shot of Season 2 and look at the difference between those faces. You’ll see how much work has been put into the 3 1/2 years. It was an exhaustive but satisfying ending to it all. And it was rigged not to work. We had a lot of obstacles. It wasn’t just the [writers’ and actors’] strikes. There were a lot of snake-bitten things that happened along the way and you’re not sure if it’s going to hold together.
You reshot some scenes for Season 2 because the whole point is that Louis is battling his memory. Whose version of events should we believe?
He basically tells Molloy, “I think you should listen to Lestat’s version.” [Louis] is just coming up to it and going, “Maybe I was still telling you this thing where I was still trying to preserve either the hero, or me, or some stuff had broken down.”
I would listen to Louie. The show is about Louie coming to terms with all those things. He had a tortured way to get there. But by the end, he’s the one who gets on a plane, heads back to New Orleans, and seeks Lestat out. There isn’t any confusion there. There’s just a little ramp for a little bit of contrition, some forgiveness, and the beginnings of rebuilding it all. That’s what’s cool about the show — that murkiness can be there.
How did you know Delainey Hayles was right for Claudia? [Hayles replaced Bass, who left the series last year after “unforeseen circumstances.”]
We have this incredible casting director and she brought in four actors, and they were all terrific. The idea was let’s see all these four actors. Then, we’re gonna go to this restaurant and we would sit down and discuss all the actors that we saw. We get there and we look at each other, and we all go “Delainey” immediately, and there wasn’t much discussion. None of the other actors were giving bad performances, there was just some sort of magic you just felt. This is an actor you’re gonna see for the next four years; we got the first crack at her.
Jacob Anderson as Louis De Point Du Lac and Delainey Hayles as Claudia, who joined the series for Season 2.
(Larry Horricks / AMC)
We all know Claudia is dead now. Was there ever a version where she lived?
No. Anne wrote that book out of the mourning of losing a child. The changes that we made for the plot were really thought out and battled out, and then aggressively pursued once we did it. We’re always trying to first and foremost, honor the spirit of what was going on in the novel. So, no, Claudia was never gonna live. It was mostly a battle about how to most beautifully, or most hauntingly, or most painfully — however you want to say — give a death worthy of the character. Claudia will probably be haunting the show for a little bit.
Would you agree that she was defiant in her last moments?
Defiant is right. She is arguably the most aggressive, the most vampiric out of all the vampires that we’ve shown so far. I think she is a real predator and a real tough, fierce individual.
There was also a big love triangle this season between the vampires. How do you feel about people’s reactions to the throuple-esque energy?
I think the strange, wonderful thing about the show’s reception is that it seems to be equally thrilling and maddening for everyone. Everyone gets to ride on the shoulders of the vampire they most identify with and get angry with the ones they don’t. We weren’t a judgmental writers room. We just tasked ourselves with manifesting Anne’s truly messed up characters and making them messy.
It’s been hard for people to reconcile with the fact that Louis forgave Armand after he betrayed him in these last episodes. Can you break that down?
In the writers room, when we started Season 2, we read Part 2 and Part 3 out loud as writers. One of the things that we were moved by was this embankment speech that Armand makes to Louis just talking about how much he has thrown at Louis over these years and given to him and Louis has just been cold. The task was to make him not a cartoon villain, but make him as empathetic as possible.
We’ve landed on the idea that Armand has two real moments of weakness. At the end of Episode 6, he could have arguably said, “Hey, me and you let’s get out of here. Let’s run away and be together.” And he says it in Episode 8. He’s like, “The choice was my coven who had been with me for 200 years or you.” If you go back and look at the kiss they had in the scene and Louie just walks away. Armand’s like, “This guy can live without me. What am I doing?” This idea that we all want to judge everybody is not how our writers room works. We’re trying to create very complex, super-flawed people.
Rolin Jones on Armand’s (Assad Zaman) feelings toward Louie: “This guy can live without me. What am I doing?”
(Larry Horricks / AMC)
Are you happy with Lestat’s journey this season? We last see him being a recluse in New Orleans all these years after saving Louis.
I think what this season does is set the desire for the audience to hear Lestat’s version of things. When you look back on this season, Louis is slowly remembering there’s another side of Lestat he hasn’t been selling the audience aggressively on. I’m satisfied with where we placed them. There’s a lot of work to do. They’re not together at the end and there’s a place to go dramatically. They want 10 seasons of this show. They’re not slamming together at the end. That isn’t happening.
Does Louis find peace at the end?
For Jacob Anderson, there’s a very innocuous little line that was most important to him that he balanced this whole season on. It was a moment when he’s having that telepathic conversation with Molloy at the end, and he’s like, “I’m worried about you, Louis.” Jacob looks right past the cameras and says, “I’m fine.” For Jacob, it was the first time that he portrayed that character where he felt like the thing that he was saying was the way he felt.
[At the end of Episode 8] the camera goes straight to his face before he says, “I own the night,” and that’s the idea that there’s a whole new set of stories to write about that character now. There’s a swagger and a strength there. Most of his baggage has been shipped. Louis is not leaving this show, that’s all I’m saying!
What will Season 3 look like?
Lestat becomes a rock star. Let’s start there. We’re going to do a lot with that and are excited about potentially working with Daniel Hart who’s done the music for the first two seasons. We’re going to try to beat “Hedwig and the Angry Inch” and “Rocky Horror.” We’re about to try to make a little pop masterpiece.
Anything else you would like to mention?
The deeper I get into [Anne Rice’s] books, I’m slowly catching up to the love that the people who really love the show have for these books and clutch them to their hearts. So many of the artists who worked on our show talked about how the tone of the book allowed them to think about coming out. These books are important to people. I feel very privileged and very lucky to be this person who’s shepherding that to a new generation at this point.
Movie Reviews
Movie review: Supergirl is a blast
Last year’s “Superman” ended with Iggy Pop singing “Because I’m a punk rocker, yes I am” — an ironic coda for a superlatively square hero. But it rings straightforwardly true for Superman’s cousin.
Milly Alcock’s Kara Zor-El, or Supergirl, sports not a spandex suit but a Blondie T-shirt. When we meet her in Craig Gillespie’s “Supergirl,” she’s been on an interstellar bender for days. She’s more Courtney Love than Clark Kent.
Nonchalant and sarcastic, Kara is also a little Han Solo-ish, you might say, given that she moves capriciously through the galaxy in her junky spaceship while getting in fights in extraterrestrial bars. She’s a welcome, jagged riff on more buttoned-up superheroes, and Alcock is terrific in the role. If only “Supergirl” was as good as she is.
While the latest DC release, and second under James Gunn’s stewardship, has its moments, “Supergirl” struggles to match Kara’s punk-rock energy with an equally spirited supporting cast and story.
Skepticism seems to have gathered for “Supergirl” ahead of its release. Many fans have argued it wasn’t the right next step for DC Universe. But I’m not so sure. Alcock’s breezy cameo in “Superman” was one of that movie’s highlights. Handing the follow-up to her, and her faithful floating dog Krypto, strikes me as an extremely natural next step. When in doubt, follow the dog.
And much of “Supergirl” is winning. It resides almost entirely in space, touching down only momentarily on Earth. In its consistently creative production design, clever needle drops and underdog story arc, “Supergirl” resides a little closer to Gunn’s “Guardians of the Galaxy” movies than other DC entries. Its outer space is filled with cosmic detritus, mean characters and cute critters. Seth Rogen as the voice of a tiny alien co-piloting a space bus is an inspired concoction, as is a shabbier sci-fi realm with rest stops along the intergalactic highway.
Entertainment
Justin Baldoni and wife break silence after ‘It Ends With Us’ legal battle with Blake Lively
Justin Baldoni has broken his silence after reaching a settlement in a lengthy and highly publicized legal dispute with Blake Lively.
Baldoni and his wife, Emily Baldoni, presented a united front in an Instagram video the couple shared Wednesday that began, “So we have not spoken publicly for the better part of the last two years, and it’s not because we haven’t had anything to say, because Lord knows we have.”
The “It Ends With Us” actor and director said that although they’d wanted to address the debacle that involved dueling lawsuits with Lively, nearly two years of tit-for-tat fodder and culminated in a confidential settlement, “something was telling us not to.”
The couple said they prayed about when to make a public statement. “This feels like the moment,” Emily said.
“What does feel important,” she continued, “is that we can genuinely say that we are sitting here today feeling immense gratitude for so many things and so many people and so many things that have happened to us.”
“Gratitude has saved us,” Justin added.
“I also feel that it’s important as we say that — in that gratitude — it doesn’t negate the injustice and the pain that we have also felt in the last few years, and we’ve had to wrestle with so many things and try to understand so many things,” Emily said. “How could something like this even happen? Let alone disguised as a fight for women. So much to unpack. And the truth is, reality is, is that there’s been a lot of trauma for us to move through as a family, which also makes it hard to speak.”
“We don’t even know this is the right thing to say, but we just know we need to share something,” Justin said. “What I will say is that there have been so many painful things that have been spoken into existence — “
“Untruthful,” Emily broke in.
“We didn’t want to add to the noise, so we just wanted to let the justice system run its course,” he said.
“And the truth and the facts have spoken for themselves,” Emily said.
The couple’s statement comes a year and a half after Lively filed a bombshell lawsuit against Baldoni alleging sexual harassment, retaliation and several other charges on the heels of a messy “It Ends With Us” summer release and press tour that fueled rumors of on-set turmoil.
Less than a month after the allegations against Baldoni rallied Hollywood against him, he countersued Lively, her publicist Leslie Sloane and her husband, Ryan Reynolds, for $400 million in damages, claiming they’d smeared his name in the press and wrestled away his control of the film. His suit was later dismissed.
In May, two weeks ahead of the trial, Lively and Baldoni reached an agreement to resolve their legal dispute, bringing an abrupt end to the contentious battle.
“The parties in the Blake Lively and Wayfarer Studios litigation have reached an agreement to resolve the matters,” lawyers for both sides said in a joint statement.
“The end product — the movie ‘It Ends With Us’ — is a source of pride to all of us who worked to bring it to life. Raising awareness, and making a meaningful impact in the lives of domestic violence survivors — and all survivors — is a goal that we stand behind. We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard. We remain firmly committed to workplaces free of improprieties and unproductive environments. It is our sincere hope that this brings closure and allows all involved to move forward constructively and in peace, including a respectful environment online.”
In June, a federal judge ordered Baldoni and his production company to pay Lively’s attorney fees related to his unsuccessful defamation lawsuit against her, but rejected her bid for additional damages.
“So, how are we doing?” the filmmaker said in the Instagram video. “We are healing, and if you’ve ever been through something traumatic, you know that healing isn’t linear. It lives different every day, and we have had to rethink for ourselves what is real. What matters, and it’s this. It’s our family. It’s our friends. It’s our community. It’s our faith.”
Times staff writer Josh Rottenberg contributed to this report.
Movie Reviews
‘The Guest’ Review: Trine Dyrholm Gives a Scorcher of a Performance in a Gutsy Danish Party-Gone-Wrong Drama
A family and friends gather for a naming-day ceremony at a Danish seaside hotel, but an unexpected appearance by one uninvited attendee (Trine Dyrholm) ruptures the veil of bland, happy-clappy familial unity in director Mads Mengel’s gutsy, well-wrought debut feature, The Guest.
The most audacious move here may be Mengel and co-screenwriter Christian Bengtson’s choice to write something that will inevitably invite comparisons with Festen (The Celebration), arguably the most notorious Danish-language film of the last 30 years, which similarly revolved around a bougie gathering disrupted by angry revelations. But there’s a savvy 2026 vibe about the way the film refuses to create florid melodrama out of quotidian crisis, and instead observes with generosity as the characters grope awkwardly toward emotional détente and mutual forgiveness.
The Guest
The Bottom Line When wetting the baby’s head goes too far.
Venue: Karlovy Vary Film Festival
Cast: Simon Bennebjerg, Trine Dyrholm, Josephine Park, Peter Gantzler, Petrine Agger, Mette Klakstein Wiberg, Kristine Kujath Thorp, Buster Lund Luscher
Director: Mads Mengel
Screenwriter: Christian Bengtson, Mads Mengel
1 hour 40 minutes
Festen-alumnus Dyrholm, having a bit of a career moment with outstanding performances both here and in the recent The Girl With the Needle among others, leads a uniformly excellent cast in a work that deserves celebration on the festival circuit and beyond.
Dyrholm’s Vibeke is technically the first person we meet, although she’s seen only in shadow at first as she smokes and drives while her unattached seatbelt, caught outside by a closed door, clatters on the road. This is the kind of unsafe driving her son Karl (Simon Bennebjerg) so deplores, a point of contention later on in the story when he will steal her car keys in interest of her own safety and that of others.
But well before we get to that flashpoint, the film introduces Karl, effectively the film’s protagonist, as he arrives at the swanky resort with his wife Emilie (Mette Klakstein Wiberg) and their infant son Elliot (Buster Lund Luscher). The young family, who’ve chosen this new, secular tradition instead of a christening to welcome their child to the world, are there a day before the ceremony to meet up with core family members.
As this advance party settles down for dinner, a table that includes Karl’s sister Rikke (Josephine Park) and Emilie’s parents Frank (Peter Gantzler) and Kirsten (Petrine Agger), there’s a surprise: Vibeke is coming, courtesy of Rikke’s invitation. Karl is quietly furious and seems determined to turn her away, even when she shows up minutes later. Poor Frank and Kirsten look on confused, determinedly polite in their insistence that all family members should be welcome.
Bengtson and Mengel’s economical script carefully dripfeeds backstory as the film unfolds to explain that Karl hasn’t spoken to his mother in years, that Rikke has taken over all the daily mom management and that she’s very worn out by it. Even so, she insists Vibeke is regularly taking her medication and isn’t a problem these days, although to Karl every weird anecdote and moment of emotional intensity is an augur of impending chaos. Rikke counters that their mother is just “big, that’s her personality not her condition.”
Interestingly, that specific condition is never named throughout, although armchair diagnosticians might spot many of the signs of bipolar disorder. But the film’s emotional focus on the person and her actions rather than the label is also very contemporary, reflecting a more holistic, inclusive mindset and approach to dealing with mental health issues.
Which is all fine and dandy, until Vibeke duly does skip a dosage and starts getting manic. One of the first signs of chemical imbalance arrives during the ceremony on the beach, when Vibeke carries little Elliot much further away from the shore than anyone wants, creating a panic. From there it just gets worse as Vibeke picks up on the censorious feeling emerging from the other party guests, who had found her so charming the night before when she’d led everyone to the casino to play roulette and diverted a bunch of partying teenagers from the room next to Karl and Emilie so they could get some sleep. When the toasts at the formal dinner begin, Vibeke’s mood darkens much further, and if we’ve all learned one thing from Festen, it’s be very afraid when a Dane gets up to make a toast.
Cinematographer David Bauer’s nimble-footed lensing and use of natural light does indeed hark back considerably to the look of those Dogme 95 movies back in the day, as does the naturalistic editing style deployed by Louis Emil Ramm Seeberg. But there are plenty of sins against the rules of cinematic chastity that marked that movement, such as the ample space made for Lasse Aagaard’s affecting, low-key score that amps up the anxiety as Vibeke starts to spiral.
That said, Mengel keeps things simple in sonic terms when it really counts, letting the musicality of Dyrholm’s deep, sonorous voice ring out on its own in the big monologue scenes. She is, as ever, utterly mesmerizing but the performance is made even more powerful by the muted, expressive reactions of the rest of the cast as they look on, frozen like deer in the headlights of the car crash of pseudo-christening. Moments of levity puncture the gloom, but the final feeling is one of numbed sorrow and pity for all these kind, fallible people, just trying to do their best.
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