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Grading Thunder-Pacers matchups for 2025 NBA Finals. Plus, should Seattle feel left out?

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On this date in 1992, Michael Jordan lit up the Blazers in Game 1 of the NBA Finals. The Bulls won 122-89 behind 39 points from Jordan. He scored 35 of them in the first half, thanks to six 3-pointers. He made only five 3s in the 16 playoff games leading up to that night. He hit six more 3-pointers the rest of the finals. We all remember the iconic shrug.


Match Game

Grading Pacers-Thunder matchups

With Game 1 of the NBA Finals tipping off Thursday night and a lull between playoff action, we’ve got plenty of Bounce days to preview this series. We gave some aspects of the game to consider yesterday, and today we’re going to grade out the matchups for each team. We’ve got star matchups, secondary guys, key role players, entire benches and even the coaching matchup to consider!

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Let’s slap a few grades down for each team in each category, determine a winner and see where it all shakes out:

Stars: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander vs. Tyrese Haliburton

Haliburton has become a big-time playoff performer, and we know how well he can control a game. Put him in a clutch situation, and you’ll see him push the opponent to the brink of losing their sanity and past losing their lead. On the flip side of that, SGA is the MVP of the league and has been brilliant in the playoffs.

Grade: A+ for OKC, A for IND Winner: Thunder

Secondary Stars: Jalen Williams vs. Pascal Siakam

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Williams has been excellent defensively during this entire run. His offense was abysmal against Denver until Game 7, and he rebounded with his scoring perfectly against Minnesota. He’s also just in his third season. Siakam has been a big addition to the Pacers over the last year and a half, and he has the experience of already contributing to a championship.

Grade: A- for OKC, A- for IND Winner: Tie

Third Guys: Chet Holmgren vs. Myles Turner

I’m not sure you can rely on Turner to be a consistent defensive presence anymore, which is a far cry from what he used to be. Meanwhile, Holmgren struggles with consistency, but he’s pretty great for a 23-year-old with only two years on NBA courts. The latter will likely have a bigger impact, but Turner needs to win this battle.

Grade: A- for OKC, B for IND Winner: Thunder

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Key 3-and-D Wings: Lu Dort vs. Aaron Nesmith

Nesmith did a good job on Brunson, and he had the big Reggie Miller moment in Game 1 against New York. Dort will eat your soul on defense and is a pretty reliable 3-point shooter.

Grade: B+ for OKC, B for IND | Winner: Thunder

Fifth Guys: Isaiah Hartenstein vs. Andrew Nembhard

We’ve seen Nembhard step up big-time in these past two postseason runs, but Hartenstein is a big man the Pacers may not have an answer for. He might require them to play a lot more Tony Bradley, which isn’t a good idea.

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Grade: A- for OKC, B for IND | Winner: Thunder

Bench battle: Thunder bench vs. Pacers bench

Let’s boil it down to Cason Wallace, Alex Caruso, Aaron Wiggins and Isaiah Joe against Bennedict Mathurin, Obi Toppin, T.J. McConnell and Ben Sheppard. We’ve seen the Pacers have some great moments in the postseason so far. Wallace and Caruso alone for OKC probably win this matchup for the Thunder.

Grade: A for OKC, B+ for IND | Winner: Thunder

Coaching: Mark Daigneault vs. Rick Carlisle

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Daigneault has already won Coach of the Year, had a 68-win season and coached the most dominant team (at least, by net rating) in league history. He’s one of the top coaches in the NBA. However, Rick Carlisle is a championship coach and has decades of experience battling out in the playoffs. I have to give the veteran coach the slight edge here.

Grade: A- for OKC, A for IND | Winner: Pacers

That’s a pretty heavy swing to the Thunder with a 5-1-1 tally here. Even if you convince me that Siakam is winning that matchup over Williams (which I’m not mad at), we’re still looking at 5-2 OKC. That doesn’t mean things can’t change once we’re on the court, though.


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You, too , can learn to train like an MVP!

🏀 Training tips. There are five things you learn by training with SGA. Have to create an alter ego. 

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🏀 Power Rankings. WNBA rankings are here, but can anybody challenge the historically dominant Liberty? Here come the Aces!

🏀 Take care. The Pacers and Thunder both take care of the ball at an elite level. Possessions matter.

✈️ Travel buddies. What was a key part of Indiana’s path to the NBA Finals? A trip to Paris!🎶 Jazz hiring. The Jazz are hiring Austin Ainge from the Celtics to be the president of basketball ops. Yes, that’s Danny Ainge’s son.

🎧 Tuning in. Today’s “NBA Daily” discusses whether SGA is having one of the best seasons in league history.

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Acknowledge Seattle

Is Seattle owed an honor in this year’s finals?

Back in 2012, when that young Thunder squad made the NBA Finals to take on Miami, it made sense to not bring up where it had come from. Oklahoma City had done a great job to help house the New Orleans Hornets in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, so executive Clay Bennett and company decided to pounce on the opportunity to move a team there permanently. They bought the Seattle SuperSonics, as they hit a bit of a stalemate in procuring a new arena in the Emerald City, and then ripped them from the city for the prairie. (The Hornets had spent the 2005-06 and 2006-07 seasons there before the Thunder relocated in 2008.)

Four years after the move, the Thunder were in the finals because general manager Sam Presti is unbelievable at his job. And 13 years after the move, Presti’s Thunder are back in the finals as a heavy favorite to win. They also look like they’re capable of setting up a dynasty. All the while, we still can’t get any kind of straight answer on a real plan as to when Seattle will get an expansion team back into the city.

To be fair, the timing of expansion is a complicated process, but the league hasn’t committed yet. The NBA did almost let the Sacramento Kings get purchased to be moved to Seattle back in 2013. But Vivek Ranadivé swooped in to buy the team and keep it in Sacramento. The Thunder are looking like a premier team in this league and an eventual champion. But I still know plenty of NBA-loving and -covering people with a sour taste in their mouths about how this team was ripped away from Seattle under David Stern’s watch.

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There is a feeling that it’s been swept under the proverbial rug as a storyline. Maybe the NBA is supposed to do that. At this point, it’s been 15 years, and the franchise didn’t take the history with it. It’s been set aside for the eventual expansion team that will oddly come with its own championship before it even has a roster. I’m not even sure what I, or anyone else, would be asking of commissioner Adam Silver and the league to do here, especially considering the franchise divorced itself from the history tied to Seattle and the Sonics. And I’m not sure anybody is asking Thunder fans to apologize for this either.

Maybe the final closure, if OKC wins the title, is just an acknowledgment that the way they got there sucked and was wrong. Seattle did and still does deserve better. Because many of us still have fond memories of the franchise and want to see them again. Can the NBA truly ever fix this?


What’s Happening?

Five questions about the upcoming offseason

We’re less than a month away from free agency starting and a little more than three weeks away from the NBA Draft on June 25. That means teams are geared all the way up for trying to take down both the Pacers in the East and the Thunder in the West. Because this is a league of jealousy, mimicry and pettiness. Just how we like it.

A lot needs to be determined this offseason, but here are five questions I have about this summer right off the bat.

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1. Do the Knicks have a Mikal Bridges dilemma? James Edwards III did a great job laying out the situation the Knicks will have with Bridges this offseason. He’s eligible for a four-year, $156 million extension, and you might remember Jalen Brunson caused quite the stir in taking a below-market value extension to give the franchise flexibility. Many assumed it was to help them re-sign his friend and college teammate. But the Knicks gave up five first-round picks for Bridges, and their main lineup with him wasn’t what it was all cracked up to be. If the Knicks feel like they have to swing for the fences, Bridges is probably the guy to move.

2. With who and how are the Celtics going to trim salary? The Celtics probably need to cut $23 million off the books this summer, if not more. That depends how much they’re willing to spend in a season we can assume Jayson Tatum will mostly, if not entirely, miss. The Celtics’ biggest challenge may be finding places that can easily absorb contracts. And, if they can’t, that probably means attaching draft picks in deals. Seeing how far they go in this process will be a tone-setter for the East.

3. Are Julius Randle and Myles Turner the most intriguing names to get? Names like Giannis Antetokounmpo and Kevin Durant are going to be volleyed about in the rumor mill, but the free-agent class is going to be pretty weak. Turner is going to be an unrestricted free agent. Randle had a great finish to the season, outside of the series against the Thunder andhas a $29.2 million player option that might be worth declining to enter the market. However, there isn’t a lot of cap space outside of Brooklyn, as teams are preparing for 2026. If Antetokounmpo and KD don’t end up actually being available, maybe we have kind of a dud summer in terms of big names moving.

4. Will Kevin Durant find his way out of Phoenix? Speaking of KD, how salty is he going to be about the trade deadline? Lots of rumors happened around him being dangled to the Warriors in a potential multi-team deal that would have landed Jimmy Butler on the Suns. Of course, I’m not even sure what was possible with a Mat Ishbia-owned team. It’s like watching a kid run a franchise mode in a video game. Antetokounmpo is the potential biggest target this summer, but Durant could make a lot of teams interested in a short-term star.

5. Who will look at the East landscape and be aggressive? Boston is likely cutting, rather than adding or adjusting. Cleveland and New York probably won’t make sweeping changes. Milwaukee is painted into a corner. Indiana is in a great place right now, obviously. Miami and Philadelphia are stuck in trying to figure out if they’re any kind of relevant. The potential for a big jump would be upstarts Orlando and Detroit. Do they have the aggressiveness to go make a big splash with the East landscape looking vulnerable?

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SEATTLE, WASHINGTON – DECEMBER 17: Alex Carpenter #25 of the Seattle Torrent celebrates her goal during the second period against the Ottawa Charge at Climate Pledge Arena on December 17, 2025 in Seattle, Washington.  (Steph Chambers / Getty Images)

Alex Carpenter had two goals and an assist, and Hannah Bilka had a goal and two assists as the Seattle Torrent earned a 4-1 victory over the Ottawa Charge on Wednesday night.

Hannah Murphy was 38.1 seconds away from the first shutout in Torrent history before Ottawa finally got on the board late in the third period on a goal from Rebecca Leslie. Murphy made 24 saves on 25 shots in the victory.

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Julia Gosling also added a goal on the power play as the Torrent won their second straight game.

Seattle took the lead on Gosling’s power play goal late in the first period with Rory Guilday in the box for a hooking penalty. Ottawa looked like they were going to get the game into the intermission scoreless after clearing the zone in the final 20 seconds of the period, but Carpenter and Bilka combined to find Gosling driving the back post for a finish past Sanni Ahola for a 1-0 lead.

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Another power play chance off a Mannon McMahon tripping penalty allowed Carpenter to strike for a 2-0 lead.

A shot from the right circle from Bilka deflected off a skate to Carpenter at the front of the net as she back-handed the puck into the net for a two-goal advantage.

The Charge then lost track of Carpenter in the offensive zone as she found space directly in front of Ahola, beating the goaltender for a 3-0 lead off a pass from Megan Carter off the left boards.

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Murphy was sharp in net for Seattle, turning aside 13 shots in the first period alone as Ottawa had the upper hand early. She’d face just 12 more shots over the final two periods combined, with only Leslie’s goal finding a way through.

After Bilka’s empty-net goal made it 4-0, Leslie outflanked Carter and the Seattle defense to get a near breakaway look in on Murphy that she finished to avoid the shutout for Ottawa.

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Murphy has been the goaltender for both of the Torrent’s victories this season as the rookie out of Colgate University has been terrific early in the season for Seattle. 

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Jorge Polanco won’t be back with the Seattle Mariners next season, but he left the club and its fan base heartfelt message after his signing with the New York Mets became official on Tuesday.

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Polanco, who signed a two-year, $40 million deal with the Mets, posted the following to his Instagram page.

#Godfirst. I cannot express with words how grateful me and my family are for the belief YOU had in me. First you traded for me and then you signed me when everyone else doubted me after surgery. YOU made me feel wanted and loved and I will be forever grateful for that. I became a better player and person because of YOU. YOU embraced my wife, kids, and me as one of your own…again, I will be forever grateful for that. YOU were an inspiration for me every night and I just wish we could have delivered you the trophy YOU deserve. I will always cherish my time with YOU…I will never forget these last two years because of YOU.

YOU= Seattle Fans, Teammates, Trainers, Coaching Staff, Front Office, and Owner.

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I will always smile thinking of YOU all.

Tridents UP!

Polanco was hindered by a knee issue and had a disappointing first season with the Mariners in 2024 after he was acquired in a trade that sent four players to Minnesota. But after coming back to the M’s on a one-year deal before the start of 2025, he had a resurgent campaign that helped key the club’s run its first American League West title and AL Championship Series appearance since 2001.

After posting career worsts with a .213 average and 29.2% strikeout rate in 2024, the 32-year-old second baseman and designated hitter batted .265 with an .821 OPS, 30 doubles, 26 home runs and 78 RBIs over 138 games in 2025. His strikeout rate dropped to 15.6%, marking the largest year-to-year dip in strikeout percentage in MLB history (minimum 450 plate appearances), per MLB.com’s Mike Petriello.

Polanco was extremely clutch for the Mariners all season long. He led the league with a 1.284 OPS and 259 wRC+ in high-leverage situations, and his .438 batting average was second.

That clutch hitting showed up in the postseason as well. Polanco homered twice off two-time reigning AL Cy Young-winner Tarik Skubal during Game 2 of the AL Division Series and delivered one of the biggest hits in Mariners history with a walk-off single in the 15th inning of their series-clinching Game 5 win. He also hit the go-ahead three-run homer in Seattle’s Game 2 ALCS win.

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Polanco triggered a $6 million player option for 2026 by reaching 450 plate appearances in the regular season, but he declined the option to become a free agent. He was a top offseason target for Seattle before signing with New York.

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Las Vegas and Seattle are the front-runners if NBA expansion to 32 teams happens

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LAS VEGAS (AP) — The NBA plans to make a decision regarding domestic expansion in the coming year, Commissioner Adam Silver said Tuesday, offering the most definitive timeline since the league began exploring the possibility of moving from 30 to 32 teams.

And if there are favorites, as has long been expected, Las Vegas and Seattle are at the top of the list.

“Not a secret, we’re looking at this market in Las Vegas. We are looking at Seattle,” Silver said before the NBA Cup final between San Antonio and New York. “We’ve looked at other markets as well. I’d say I want to be sensitive there about this notion that we’re somehow teasing these markets, because I know we’ve been talking about it for a while.”

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Expansion has been a topic for years in the NBA, and it’s no secret that Seattle — which had a team until the SuperSonics were moved to Oklahoma City in 2008 — and Las Vegas have long been clamoring for franchises.

“I think Seattle and Las Vegas are two incredible cities,” Silver said. “Obviously we had a team in Seattle that had great success. We have a WNBA team here in Las Vegas in the Aces. … I don’t have any doubt that Las Vegas, despite all of the other major league teams that are here now, the other entertainment properties, that this city could support an NBA team.

“I think now we’re in the process of working with our teams and gauging the level of interest and having a better understanding of what the economics would be on the ground for those particular teams and what a pro forma would look like for them, and then sometime in 2026 we’ll make a determination.”

Cup future

Silver revealed on Amazon Prime Video’s pregame show for the NBA Cup final that the title game of the tournament may move away from Las Vegas.

Among the sites under consideration: “Some storied college arenas,” Silver said. “We’re looking at other ways we can do this.”

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Semifinal games in the Cup will be played at No. 1 seed home sites starting next season, so the concept of a final four in Las Vegas was going to change in 2026 anyway.

Cup viewership increases

Going to a streaming service hasn’t prevented fans from watching the NBA Cup.

Saturday night’s semifinals on Prime Video — in its first season as a league broadcast partner — averaged 1.67 million viewers, a 14% increase over last season’s semifinals.

And Saturday’s doubleheader — San Antonio vs. Oklahoma City and New York vs. Toronto — saw a 126% year-over-year increase in social media views, the league said, with more than 400 million views across all platforms.

NBA Europe plans

Silver hinted that there might be some news next month on the plans for the NBA’s project with FIBA to start a league in Europe.

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That makes sense, with the league set to play regular-season games in Berlin and London next month when Orlando and Memphis go over for a pair of matchups.

“I would say we’re casting a very, very wide net right now and essentially saying to anyone who’s interested, come see our bankers, explain to us why you’re interested, how you view the opportunity, what resources you would put behind opening a team, and then we’re taking all that information back,” Silver said. “And then I think sometime in late January, or in January, we’ll be in a position to have more serious conversations with those interested parties.”

Silver said he got the news on Chris Paul being sent home by the Los Angeles Clippers the same way basically everyone else did: He checked his phone in the middle of the night.

“I will say I was dismayed just for everyone involved,” Silver said. “As you know, I’m particularly close to Chris because he was president of the Players Association many years. … I would love to see him finish off the season on another team. He’s already announced this is his last season, so I’d love to see him finish strong.”

Silver said it’s not his role “to cross-examine the participants” and added that he hasn’t talked to Clippers owner Steve Ballmer about what happened.

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“It’s an unfortunate situation that it ended the way it did,” Silver said. “So, I’m focused, and I hope Chris is now, on the future.”

Silver says WNBA talks are progressing

Silver said he and NBA deputy commissioner Mark Tatum are available to help the WNBA and its players strike a new labor deal, if needed.

Silver said he’s “optimistic” a deal will get done.

“I’m tracking things very closely,” Silver said. “We’re integrated at the league office. I talk to the people who are at the negotiating table on a daily basis. As I’ve said before, we, the NBA-WNBA collective, acknowledged that our players deserve to be paid significantly more than they have so far based on the increased success of the league. It’s just a question now of finding a meeting of the minds in terms of what is a fair deal. It’s going to require compromise on both sides.”

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