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DeSantis vs. Newsom: Charts show how many Californians are migrating to Florida — and vice versa

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DeSantis vs. Newsom: Charts show how many Californians are migrating to Florida — and vice versa


Ahead of Ron DeSantis’ debate with California Gov. Gavin Newsom, the Florida governor pointed to the number of people leaving California as evidence its policies were unpopular.  In 2022, California lost 340,000 more people to other states and Puerto Rico than it gained. (

Stephen M. Dowell (Orlando Sentinel) and Andri Tambunan (Special to the Chronicle)

When Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis announced he would debate California Gov. Gavin Newsom, he framed the event partially as a competition between the states themselves.

The first point he raised wasn’t about job growth, crime or life expectancy — it was the number of people leaving California.

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“The debate between California and Florida has already been had,” DeSantis told Fox News host Sean Hannity in August. “(People have) been voting on it with their feet.”

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So what does the data show about migration between the two states?

It’s true that more Californians are moving to other U.S. states than are moving in, and that a greater number of people are moving into Florida than are leaving. In 2022, California lost 340,000 more people to other states and Puerto Rico than it gained. Florida, by contrast, gained about 250,000 — a large share of which was a result of migration from New York.

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Historically, California has tended to lose more residents to domestic migration than it’s gained, but has continued to grow because it attracts so many international migrants. But in recent years overall population growth has stalled as domestic out migration rocketed up.

The flow between California and Florida also favors the latter state. About 50,700 Californians became Florida residents from 2021 to 2022, according to data from the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey. That’s 22,100 more than the 28,600 Florida residents who moved to California.

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The flow of residents moving from California to Florida has been rising quickly since the beginning of the pandemic. The annual net migration from California to Florida more than tripled from 2019 to 2022.

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Still, the net number of people leaving California for Florida is a small fraction of California’s overall out-migration. Larger groups of movers went to closer states like Arizona and Nevada between 2021 and 2022, though Texas had the biggest net in-migration at more than 60,000 former Californians.

Relative to its population, Florida had a fairly small rate of arrivals from California, Census Bureau data shows, just 1 person per 1,000 residents. Idaho, which saw about 21,000 more people come from California than make the opposite move, had by far the highest rate at 11 movers per 1,000 people. Nevada and Arizona had rates of 8.4 and 6.4, respectively. Even Florida’s neighbor Georgia, attracted more Californians as a share of that state’s population.

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There’s also some notable demographic differences between the people moving from California to Florida and those who stay in the state. Nearly 60% of Florida residents who moved from California identified as non-Hispanic white, according to data from the Census Bureau’s 2016-2021 American Community Survey, the most recent available. Among people who stayed in California, just 36% identified as white.

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Additionally, only about 22% of Californians who moved to Florida were Hispanic, compared to 40% of residents who didn’t change states.

Households moving from California to Florida are also wealthier, on average, than those making the opposite trip. The average household income among people who moved from California to Florida between 2020 and 2021 was nearly $200,000, according to tax return data from the IRS.

The households that moved from Florida to California those years made an average of less than half that amount, just $90,000. And the average income among California households that remained in the state was only about $103,000.

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Some research has indicated that, though households of all incomes have left California at higher rates that they’ve moved in, higher earners tend to gravitate toward states with no income taxes, like Florida.

Other studies show California’s high cost of living — and especially its high housing prices — is a major driving force behind the number of people leaving the state. A 2023 poll from the Public Policy Institute of California found that about a third of residents are considering moving to another state, with 45% citing housing costs as a factor.

Reach Christian Leonard: Christian.Leonard@sfchronicle.com





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The Florida Gators have made a change to their 2025 non-conference football schedule, according to a report from Swamp247.

Florida previously had all four of its non-conference opponents set for next season, including a matchup at home on Saturday, October 11 against the Florida A&M Rattlers of the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS). Per the report, that game will not be played.

Instead, Florida has scheduled a different FCS opponent and it will be the season-opener at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium in Gainesville, Fla., likely on Saturday, Aug. 30. That opponent will reportedly be the Long Island University (LIU) Sharks of the Northeast Conference (NEC).

We previously reported that LIU was scheduled to open the 2025 season on the road against the FIU Panthers on Aug. 30. If the Sharks are instead playing at the Gators as reported, their contest against the Panthers will have to be rescheduled. The LIU-FIU contract was signed in February of this year and also includes a men’s basketball game.

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The Florida Gators did not previously have a season-opening contest scheduled, so that is likely the reason for their schedule alteration. Other non-conference opponents scheduled for the Gators in 2025 include the USF Bulls at home on Sept. 6, the Miami Hurricanes on the road on Sept. 20, and the Florida State Seminoles in Gainesville to close the regular-season on Nov. 29.

In SEC action next season, Florida is scheduled to host Georgia (in Jacksonville), Mississippi State, Tennessee, and Texas and travel to Kentucky, LSU, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M. SEC opponents in 2025 are the same as the 2024 season, but with the locations flipped.

Florida, which has claimed consecutive victories over ranked conference opponents at home — No. 22 LSU (27-16) and No. 9 Ole Miss (24-17) — is next scheduled to visit the 2-9 Florida State Seminoles on Saturday, Nov. 30 in Tallahassee, Fla. The game will be televised by ESPN2 at 7:00pm ET.

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Gold coins stolen from centuries-old Spanish convoy in $1M heist recovered by Florida authorities

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Gold coins stolen from centuries-old Spanish convoy in M heist recovered by Florida authorities


Florida authorities recovered a collection of gold coins from an 18th-century Spanish convoy that was stolen in 2015.

The 37 gold coins were snatched from the 1715 Spanish Treasure Fleet and have a total value of $1 million, according to a Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission press release.

The 1715 Fleet was a combination of two different groups of Spanish ships, all under one command, heading back to Spain following a successful round of treasure hunting. The fleet fell victim to a hurricane and crashed somewhere off the coast of Florida. Their spoils, including the coins, all sank to the bottom of the ocean.

A group of centuries-old gold coins recovered by Florida authorities, originally from the 1715 Treasure Fleet, displayed on a table. Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission

Exactly 300 years later, 101 gold coins were recovered in 2015 by the Schmitt family off of Florida’s aptly named Treasure Coast. The family worked specifically to recover treasure from the Spanish fleet, even naming their LLC the 1715 Fleet – Queens Jewels.

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However, only 51 of the coins were recorded, leaving the other 50 in limbo.

A gold chain with centuries-old recovered gold coins dating back to the 1715 Treasure Fleet. Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission

“While 51 of these coins were reported correctly and adjudicated, 50 coins were not disclosed and were subsequently stolen,” the FWC wrote.

The robbery sparked an FBI investigation into Eric Schmitt, one of the family members responsible for the discovery. The probe specifically looked into “the illegal sale of multiple stolen gold coins between 2023 and 2024.”

“Investigators executed multiple search warrants, recovering coins from private residences, safe deposit boxes and auctions,” the press release noted.

A group of centuries-old gold coins, recovered by the Florida Fish and Wildlife
Conservation Commission, displayed on a table. Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission

“Five stolen coins were reclaimed from a Florida-based auctioneer, who unknowingly purchased them from Eric Schmitt.”

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Schmitt had also apparently taken three of the gold coins that he didn’t report and tossed them back into the ocean “to be found by the new investors of 1715 Fleet – Queens Jewels, LLC.”

Even so, 13 of the coins are still missing. The FWC wrote that finding 37 of them “marks a major milestone in a long-standing investigation into the theft and illegal trafficking of these priceless historical artifacts.”



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NEXT Weather meteorologist Dave Warren says the afternoon will remain sunny and mild with highs in the low 80s.

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