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Are Politicians Too Old? California Democrats Want to Debate an Age Cap.
As Democrats grapple with how to recover from their losses in November, an uncomfortable question has emerged in California, the state that has long set trends for the party.
Are their leaders simply too old?
Some party activists, pointing to several examples where they say leaders held onto power long past their prime, want to take the political keys away from state and local officeholders at a certain age.
The idea, initiated by San Francisco Democrats in a resolution, will be considered by the statewide party when it holds its convention later this month. Though it is largely a symbolic pursuit, the fact that the conversation is occurring at all is noteworthy in a place known for revering its elder leaders.
California is the state of Dianne Feinstein, who died in office at age 90 in 2023. It is also the home of Jerry Brown, who served two terms as governor in his 70s; Representative Nancy Pelosi, the former House speaker, who is 85; and Barbara Lee, the former congresswoman who was elected last month as Oakland mayor at the age of 78.
Not all of those leaders have caused worry, and some have had significant achievements late in life, bringing the gravitas and fortitude that can come with experience.
But many Democrats still have regrets over Senator Feinstein remaining in office long after major health issues became apparent and questions were raised about her ability to focus and make decisions.
They likewise recall their consternation over Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s decision not to resign from the Supreme Court while President Barack Obama was in office. She died at age 87 late in President Trump’s first term, giving him the opportunity to replace her with a conservative justice.
But it was former President Joseph R. Biden who brought the issue to the fore last year, when he was campaigning at 81. Many Democrats believe he waited too long to bow out, robbing the party of time to mount an effective effort to beat Mr. Trump.
“We can’t just act like it didn’t happen and like we aren’t going to make changes as a result,” Eric Kingsbury, a San Francisco Democrat, said of Mr. Biden’s decline. “Everyone saw it with their own eyes, and a ton of people told them what they saw wasn’t the truth.”
Mr. Kingsbury, 36, is a member of the little-known yet locally powerful San Francisco Democratic County Central Committee. He said he wrote the resolution as a direct response to Mr. Biden staying in the race too long and some Democrats remaining unwilling to even discuss how to clear the way for younger candidates.
His resolution called for exploring a mandatory retirement age for all elected and appointed leaders at the state and local levels, but not federal positions such as Congress. Notably, it did not specify a particular age.
The proposal passed last month, but only after a heated conversation. Some opponents pointed out that Senator Bernie Sanders, an 83-year-old independent from Vermont, is one of the few leaders energizing the left now.
“It’s offensive,” said Connie Chan, 46, a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors and of the local party committee who voted no. “It’s ageism. It’s discrimination against people who have experience.”
The resolution will be among hundreds considered by the California Democratic Party at its convention this month, but it may not advance very far. Even if it does, it would take a state law, passed by the Legislature and signed by the governor, to impose an age limit.
If that ever did come to fruition, California would be the first state to force state and local politicians to retire at a certain age. Thirty-one states — but not California — force judges to retire. The most common cutoff is 70, though Vermont allows judges to serve until they are 90.
Age is not only a Democratic worry. Voters last year in North Dakota, a Republican-led state, approved a measure that prohibited candidates from running for Congress if they would turn 81 or older by the end of the year before their term concludes. But the measure did not affect state and local officeholders, and it was likely to face a legal challenge should an octogenarian candidate file suit.
In 2023, Republicans also raised concerns after Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader at the time at age 81, physically froze while taking questions at news conferences.
There are already federal policies that require mandatory retirement for occupations that require intense focus. Airline pilots must retire at 65, air traffic controllers generally must retire at 56 and military officers typically must step aside at 64.
Of course, the person atop the federal executive branch faces no retirement age. While so much focus was on Mr. Biden last year, many Democrats have been quick to point out that Mr. Trump will be 82 by the time his term ends.
“There should be concern about Donald Trump’s age,” said Scott Wiener, a Democratic state senator from San Francisco who believes the president is wreaking havoc on the economy and international relations. He recently abstained from the central committee vote on the age resolution.
Beyond California, David Hogg, the 25-year-old political activist who survived the 2018 school shooting in Parkland, Fla., and is now the vice chair of the Democratic National Committee, has said Democrats must quash the “culture of seniority politics.” Through a separate organization, Leaders We Deserve, he has pledged to spend $20 million to back younger primary candidates against older, entrenched Democrats.
Representative Ro Khanna, 48, Democrat of California, has long urged a generational change in politics, and praised Senator Dick Durbin, 80, of Illinois for his “wisdom” in recently deciding to not seek another term.
Americans seem to support the idea of a mandatory retirement age for officeholders. A Pew Research Center survey from 2023, before Mr. Biden’s age-related difficulties became clear, found that 79 percent of Americans favor age limits for elected officials in Washington, and 74 percent favor them for Supreme Court justices.
Some residents in Northern California said that a mandatory retirement age might make sense, though they recognized the delicacy of the topic. Marcelle Maldonado, a 67-year-old retiree in Dixon, Calif., said she believed that politicians should retire by 65 or 70 to make room for people with “fresh eyes and fresh ears.” But she was not optimistic that such a mandate would pass because the politicians themselves would have to approve it.
In Oakland, Nicole Barratt, a 30-year-old employee at a plant shop, said that she found it odd that many professions required people to retire by age 65, but the country’s leaders have no such rule.
“They become very isolated after they’ve been in office a really long time,” she said.
Several politicians older than 70 did not return requests for comment. That included Ms. Lee, who will be sworn in later this month as Oakland mayor, and Antonio Villaraigosa, 72, a former Los Angeles mayor who is running for California governor in the 2026 race.
John Burton, the former congressman from San Francisco who stepped down as California Democratic Party chairman eight years ago, said he did not like the idea of term limits or age limits. He took umbrage at the notion that he is getting up in age.
“Jesus, don’t call me an elder statesman,” he grumbled in his trademark prickly style. “I’ve never heard that used to describe me.”
He is 92.
John Laird, a 75-year-old state senator from Santa Cruz, said the idea of an age limit was “arbitrary and silly” and that he felt sharper and more engaged than when he was elected to the Santa Cruz City Council at age 31.
He added that California’s term limits help solve the problem. He will be termed out when he is 78.
“My staff was having a field day telling me what to say when you called,” he said with a laugh. “‘Wait, I can’t hear you!’ and ‘Wait, my cardiologist is on the other line!’”
Any legislation instating an age cap would, if passed, head to the desk of 57-year-old Gov. Gavin Newsom — and he is not a big fan. He said that politicians need “the qualities of youth” such as imagination and sharpness, but that those attributes do not decline at the same age for each person.
“We all process life, physically and emotionally, a little differently,” he said.
Some Democrats observed that if California had tried to impose an age limit on members of Congress, Ms. Pelosi would not have been speaker the second time around, nor would she have wielded the influence she still has as a congresswoman. Among her acts last year was to push President Biden to leave the 2024 race.
Last month, the San Francisco central committee resolution passed with 15 aye votes, eight nays and eight abstentions.
One committee member might have felt stronger than the others.
Ms. Pelosi, through a representative, cast a vote against the age limit. She has not said yet whether she will run for another term next year.
Coral Murphy Marcos contributed reporting from Oakland, Calif.
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Anthony Reuben
BBC Verify senior journalist
One of the Epstein documents, external is an email saying that “Donald Trump traveled on Epstein’s private jet many more times than previously has been reported (or that we were aware)”.
The email was sent on 7 January 2020 and is part of an email chain which includes the subject heading ‘RE: Epstein flight records’.
The sender and recipient are redacted but at the bottom of the email is a signature for an assistant US attorney in the Southern District of New York – with the name redacted.
The email states: “He is listed as a passenger on at least eight flights between 1993 and 1996, including at least four flights on which Maxwell was also present. He is listed as having traveled with, among others and at various times, Marla Maples, his daughter Tiffany, and his son Eric”.
“On one flight in 1993, he and Epstein are the only two listed passengers; on another, the only three passengers are Epstein, Trump, and then-20-year-old” – with the person’s name redacted.
It goes on: “On two other flights, two of the passengers, respectively, were women who would be possible witnesses in a Maxwell case”.
In 2022, Ghislaine Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in prison, external for crimes including conspiracy to entice minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts and sex trafficking of a minor.
Trump was a friend of Epstein’s for years, but the president has said they fell out in about 2004, years before Epstein was first arrested. Trump has consistently denied any wrongdoing in relation to Epstein and his presence on the flights does not indicate wrongdoing.
We have contacted the White House for a response to this particular file.
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‘Music makes everything better’: A Texas doctor spins vinyl to give patients relief
Dr. Tyler Jorgensen sets “A Charlie Brown Christmas” on a record player at Dell Seton Medical Center in Austin Texas. He uses vinyl records as a form of music therapy for palliative care patients.
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AUSTIN, TEXAS — Lying in her bed at Dell Seton Medical Center at the University of Texas at Austin, 64-year-old Pamela Mansfield sways her feet to the rhythm of George Jones’ “She Thinks I Still Care.” Mansfield is still recovering much of her mobility after a recent neck surgery, but she finds a way to move to the music floating from a record player that was wheeled into her room.
“Seems to be the worst part is the stiffness in my ankles and the no feeling in the hands,” she says. “But music makes everything better.”
The record player is courtesy of the ATX-VINyL program, a project dreamed up by Dr. Tyler Jorgensen to bring music to the bedside of patients dealing with difficult diagnoses and treatments. He collaborates with a team of volunteers who wheel the player on a cart to patients’ rooms, along with a selection of records in their favorite genres.
“I think of this record player as a time machine,” he said. “You know, something starts spinning — an old, familiar song on a record player — and now you’re back at home, you’re out of the hospital, you’re with your family, you’re with your loved ones.”
Daniela Vargas, a volunteer for the ATX-VINyL program, wheels a record player to the hospital room of a palliative care patient in Austin, Texas.
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The healing power of Country music… and Thin Lizzy
Mansfield wanted to hear country music: Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, George Jones. That genre reminds her of listening to records with her parents, who helped form her taste in music. Almost as soon as the first record spins, she starts cracking jokes.
“I have great taste in music. Men, on the other hand … ehhh. I think my picker’s broken,” she says.
Other patients ask for jazz, R&B or holiday records.
The man who gave Jorgensen the idea for ATX-VINyL loved classic rock. That was around three years ago, when Jorgensen, a long-time emergency medicine physician, began a fellowship in palliative care — a specialty aimed at improving quality of life for people with serious conditions, including terminal illnesses.
Shortly after he began the fellowship, he says he struggled to connect with a particular patient.
“I couldn’t draw this man out, and I felt like he was really struggling and suffering,” Jorgensen said.
He had the idea to try playing the patient some music.
He went with “The Boys Are Back in Town,” by the 1970s Irish rock group Thin Lizzy, and saw an immediate change in the patient.
“He was telling me old stories about his life. He was getting more honest and vulnerable about the health challenges he was facing,” Jorgensen said. “And it just struck me that all this time I’ve been practicing medicine, there’s such a powerful tool that is almost universal to the human experience, which is music, and I’ve never tapped into it.”
Dr. Tyler Jorgensen plays vinyl records as a form of music therapy for palliative care patients in Austin, Texas. Willie Nelson’s albums are a perennial hit.
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Creating new memories
Jorgensen realized records could lift the spirits of patients dealing with heavy circumstances in hospital spaces that are often aesthetically bare. And he thought vinyl would offer a more personal touch than streaming a digital track through a smartphone or speaker.
“There’s just something inherently warm about the friction of a record — the pops, the scratches,” he said. “It sort of resonates through the wooden record player, and it just feels different.”
Since then, he has built up a collection of 60 records and counting at the hospital. The most-requested album, by a landslide, is Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours from 1977. Willie is also popular, along with Etta James and John Denver. And around the holidays, the Vince Guaraldi Trio’s A Charlie Brown Christmas gets a lot of spins.
These days, it’s often a volunteer who rolls the record player from room to room after consulting nursing staff about patients and family members who are struggling and could use a visit.
Daniela Vargas, the UT Austin pre-med undergraduate who heads up the volunteer cohort, became passionate about music therapy years ago when she and her sister began playing violin for isolated patients during the COVID-19 pandemic. She said she sees similar benefits when she curates a collection of records for a patient today.
“We are usually not in the room for the entire time, so it’s a more intimate experience for the patient or family, but being able to interact with the patient in the beginning and at the end can be really transformative,” Vargas said.
Often, the palliative care patients visited by ATX-VINyL are near the end of life.
Jorgensen feels that the record player provides an interruption of the heaviness those patients and their families are experiencing. Suddenly, it’s possible to create a new, positive shared experience at a profoundly difficult time.
“Now you’re sort of looking at it together and thinking, ‘What are we going to do with this thing? Let’s play something for Mom, let’s play something for Dad.’” he said. “And you are creating a new, positive, shared experience in the setting of something that can otherwise be very sad, very heavy.”
Other patients, like Pamela Mansfield, are working painstakingly toward recovery.
She has had six neck surgeries since April, when she had a serious fall. But on the day she listened to the George Jones album, she had a small victory to celebrate: She stood up for three minutes, a record since her most recent surgery.
With the record spinning, she couldn’t help but think about the victories she’s still pursuing.
“It’s motivating,” she said. “Me and my broom could dance really well to some of this stuff.”
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