BLOOMINGTON, Ind. – It has no doubt been said before, but still worth noting, that one of the best traits Indiana women’s basketball coach Teri Moren has in building her teams is the versatility of each player.
This really comes into focus in the comparison series when you see just how skilled today’s Indiana players are versus their predecessors.
That’s not meant to be a knock on Indiana players of the past. They did what they were asked to do. Roles were more defined in pre-2010s basketball.
When you have a player like Sydney Parrish – the subject of today’s comparison series – and try to compare her scoring, rebounding, passing and defensive skills? You realize what kind of golden age Indiana’s women’s basketball finds itself in given her diverse talents.
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What’s fascinating about Parrish is that if you expand her criteria to include forwards who were 6-foot-2 or shorter, Parrish has characteristics that match both her listed guard spot and forward. She matches quite a few former Hoosiers. Twenty-two in all fit the bill.
When you get into the finer details? That’s when the sheer across-board excellence of the current players like Parrish can really be appreciated. There may be a lot of matches for her scoring and win shares, but not many that match everything she can do.
Here’s our stab at finding Indiana players of the past who produced like Parrish.
Tale of the tape
Parrish’s traditional statistics: 10.8 points, 6 rebounds and 2.3 assists. She converted 45.3% of her shots and 40% of her 3-point attempts. She is listed at 6-foot-2.
Parrish’s advanced statistics, as used by sports-reference.com: Parrish had 3.3 win shares and a 21.6 Player Efficiency Rating. She had a 19.6% usage percentage, a 14.1% assist percentage, a 13% total rebounding percentage and a 4.4 defensive box plus-minute rating.
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Some of the advanced statistics are explained below.
Honorable mention
Worth naming in this space is Rainey Alting ’01. It’s a shame advanced statistics aren’t available for her season. Her scoring stats (8.8 ppg) are barely in-range of Parrish, but when you look at her shooting (45.5%, 40% 3-point) and assist (2.5 apg) numbers? You wonder. However, Alting was 5-foot-5, so that’s one disqualifier to make the top three.
Dawn Douglas ’93 is a close match for Parrish’s traditional stats at 10.1 points, 5.1 rebounds and 2.3 assists, but she did not shoot threes, a glaring difference.
Jamie Braun ’10, Whitney Lindsay ’11, Hope Elam ’11 and Alexis Gassion ’17 all have certain numbers that line up well, but not enough to make the top three.
Same for the recent Moren players. Al Patberg ’22 and the inevitable Grace Berger ’23. Both close, but none quite there to make the top three.
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3. Tabitha Gerardot ‘14
Indiana guard Tabitha Gerardot handles the ball in a game at Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall against Saint Louis. / Indiana athletics
Gerardot was a 6-foot-1 forward on Curt Miller’s last Indiana team, a transfer from Valparaiso. Her scoring would seem to disqualify her. Gerardot averaged just 8.7 points in her only Indiana season.
However, advanced stats demonstrate how close their games were.
Gerardot had 3.1 win shares, a 13.4% rebounding percentage and a 19.8% usage percentage, all within a fraction of Parrish’s numbers. She’s also close to Parrish in size, so she made the cut.
2. Nicole Cardaño-Hillary ‘22
Indiana’s Nicole Cardano Hillary (4) looks to pass during the second half of the Indiana versus Princeton women’s NCAA second round game at Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall on Monday, March 21, 2022. / Rich Janzaruk/Herald-Times / USA TODAY NETWORK
Given the interchangeable traits that Moren players tend to have, a recent player needed to be included, so we went with the Spanish standout.
Her traditional numbers line up closely. She averaged 11.6 points, 4.9 rebounds and 3.1 assists during her senior season. Parrish is a better shooter, but not by a wide margin. Cardaño -Hillary converted 40.7% overall and 35.7% from 3-point range.
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The pair are close in advanced stats, too. Cardaño-Hillary had 3.8 win shares and a close usage rate of 21.4%.
Cardaño-Hillary was also one of the few players who had a superior defensive box plus-minus rating than Parrish’s stout 4.4 as Cardaño -Hillary reached 5.5 in 2022.
1. Lisa Eckart ‘03
A headshot of Lisa Eckart from her Indiana career. / Indiana University archives
The Greenwood, Ind., native only played one year at Indiana after she transferred from Evansville, but her numbers are very close to what Parrish produced.
One of three double-digit scorers on the 2003 team (which also produced the top comparable for Yarden Garzon – Jenny DeMuth), Eckart averaged 11.1 points, 6.4 rebounds and 1.6 assists. The scoring is very close to Parrish. Eckart enjoys the rebounding advantage; Parrish has the edge in assists.
Eckart, a 6-foot forward, also converted 38.1% of her 3-point shots, a rare forward from that era who had that skill set.
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The advanced stats also show similarities. Eckart’s rebounding percentage is 11% to Parrish’s 13%, and their assist percentage (14.1 % for Parrish, 13.4% for Eckart) also makes the two a good comparison.
Rules
First, the basic rules. Players will only be compared to those who played roughly the same position.
There’s some leeway granted to shooting guards, whether they also handled the ball or whether they were big and could play small forward. Same for power forwards, some of whom are stretch forwards, others have manned the post.
This rule is important: players are only compared to those who were the same class. Seniors-to-seniors, juniors-to-juniors, etc.
With redshirt seasons, and particularly as it relates to current players, COVID-19 amnesty seasons, some current seniors can only be compared to seniors who exhausted their eligibility in their own period of time. Xavier Johnson had three senior seasons thanks to his injury waiver season – a true man of the times.
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Criteria
Current Indiana players were compared to players of the past in three different categories – traditional statistics, advanced statistics and role.
One fundamental issue is that advanced statistics are only available starting in the mid-1990s – and that’s only the most basic ones. The full menu of advanced statistics we have today were only tracked starting in the 2009-10 season.
Even the full menu of traditional statistics weren’t accurately tracked until the 1980s.
Traditional counting stats and advanced stats create differences in comps. Traditional stats are subject to minutes played.
Players were considered a “comp” if they were within two points per game in scoring or within one win share in advanced statistics.
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After that, the other statistics were used to form a close comparison. A good comp also needs to be roughly the same size, though that is difficult as players have steadily grown over time. Bill Garrett was a 6-foot-3 post player in the early 1950s, for example.
Ratings explained
Win shares: An estimate of the number of wins contributed by a player via their offense and defense. The higher the number, the better.
Player Efficiency Rating: A rating created by John Hollinger in an attempt to quantify a player’s overall contribution. An average rating is 15.
Usage Percentage: An estimate of the percentage of team plays used by a player when they’re on the floor.
Assist percentage: An estimate of the percentage of teammate field goals a player assisted on where they were on the floor.
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Total rebounding percentage: An estimate of the available rebounds a player grabbed when they were on the floor.
Defensive box plus-minus: A box score estimate of the defensive points per 100 possessions a player contributed to above a league-average player. The higher the number, the better.
New Orleans Pelicans (4-13, 15th in the Western Conference) vs. Indiana Pacers (7-10, ninth in the Eastern Conference)
Indianapolis; Monday, 7 p.m. EST
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BETMGM SPORTSBOOK LINE: Pacers -5.5; over/under is 228
BOTTOM LINE: New Orleans heads into the matchup against Indiana as losers of four straight games.
The Pacers are 5-2 in home games. Indiana ranks fifth in the league with 17.0 fast break points per game led by Bennedict Mathurin averaging 4.5.
The Pelicans have gone 1-7 away from home. New Orleans averages 14.2 turnovers per game and is 3-4 when turning the ball over less than opponents.
The Pacers are shooting 48.7% from the field this season, 0.2 percentage points higher than the 48.5% the Pelicans allow to opponents. The Pacers average 103.8 points per game, 14.3 fewer points than the 118.1 the Pacers allow to opponents.
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TOP PERFORMERS: Pascal Siakam is averaging 20.9 points, 6.4 rebounds and 3.8 assists for the Pacers.
Brandon Ingram is scoring 22.9 points per game and averaging 5.8 rebounds for the Pelicans.
LAST 10 GAMES: Pacers: 4-6, averaging 111.7 points, 38.9 rebounds, 26.1 assists, 9.0 steals and 5.0 blocks per game while shooting 47.7% from the field. Their opponents have averaged 115.5 points per game.
Pelicans: 1-9, averaging 100.2 points, 42.7 rebounds, 23.0 assists, 7.8 steals and 4.5 blocks per game while shooting 42.7% from the field. Their opponents have averaged 114.7 points.
INJURIES: Pacers: Aaron Nesmith: out (ankle), Andrew Nembhard: out (knee), Isaiah Jackson: out for season (calf), James Wiseman: out for season (calf), Ben Sheppard: out (oblique).
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Pelicans: Zion Williamson: out (hamstring), Yves Missi: day to day (shoulder), CJ McCollum: day to day (thigh), Herbert Jones: out (shoulder ), Dejounte Murray: day to day (hand), Jose Alvarado: out (hamstring).
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The Associated Press created this story using technology provided by Data Skrive and data from Sportradar.
The Washington Wizards are still in the loss column after falling to the Indiana Pacers 115-103 inside Gainbridge Fieldhouse on Sunday evening.
The Wizards remained competitive throughout the game, especially after the first half when they led by two points going into halftime.
However, the Pacers pulled ahead in the second half and were able to cruise to a double-digit victory.
The Pacers had seven players scoring in double figures, including a team-high 22 points from Pascal Siakam. Myles Turner had a double-double with 10 points and 10 rebounds.
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The Wizards were sorely missing their leading scorer in Jordan Poole, who was ruled out prior to the game with a hip injury. That put Kyshawn George into the starting lineup, where he scored 15 points while grabbing five rebounds and dishing out five assists.
All five starters scored in double figures with Bilal Coulibaly and Alex Sarr scoring 17 points apiece for the team-high.
With 11 consecutive losses, the Wizards remain at the bottom of the NBA standings, but there are some positives that the team will walk away with.
The Wizards will look to snap their losing streak back at home on Tuesday against the Chicago Bulls.
Make sure you bookmark Washington Wizards on SI for the latest news, exclusive interviews, film breakdowns and so much more!
It’s a day that ends in the letter ‘y,’ so Indy Star sports columnist Gregg Doyel is acting strange online. Thankfully, this scenario has nothing to do with him acting creepy towards WNBA star Caitlin Clark, but instead, centers around the Ohio State Buckeyes blowing out the Indiana Hoosiers on Saturday.
For anyone who may have forgotten, Doyel stole the show during Clark’s introductory press conference with the Indiana Fever by making the scene all about himself in one of the strangest moves ever seen in a media setting.
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Doyel introduced himself to Clark by saying “Real quick, let me do this,” before reportedly forming a heart with his hands, a gesture Clark does towards her family after games.
Clark replied by very awkwardly asking “You like that?” before things got even weirder.
“I like that you’re here. I like that you’re here,” Doyel responded. “Yeah, I do that at my family after every game, so it’s very cool,” Clark replied.
“Okay, start doing it to me, and we’ll get along just fine,” Doyel replied back.
Long story short, Doyel later apologized for his creepy actions but was ultimately suspended by the Indy Star for two weeks.
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Naturally, each time he shares his opinion on social media nowadays, he gets chirped into oblivion and Saturday was no exception.
Doyel took serious offense to Ohio State scoring a touchdown with 35 seconds left in regulation to ultimately cap off its win over Indiana 38-15. He specifically didn’t appreciate Ohio State quarterback Will Howard celebrating the nail-in-the-coffin touchdown by putting out a fake cigarette to mock Indiana head coach Curt Cignetti.
Doyel taking offense to a 23-year-old college quarterback celebrating a monumental win over an undefeated Indiana team is odd behavior, and folks in his mentions were sure to point out that fact.
Ohio State virtually guaranteed a spot in the College Football Playoff with the win over Indiana, and the Hoosiers should be safe as well, barring a colossal loss to Purdue to close out the regular season.