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Paul Giamatti stars as Paul Hunham in Alexander Payne’s new film, The Holdovers.

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Paul Giamatti stars as Paul Hunham in Alexander Payne’s new film, The Holdovers.

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In The Holdovers, Paul Giamatti plays a pompous and lonely teacher at a boys boarding school in the 1970s who’s assigned to supervise a student who has nowhere to go over winter break.

Filmed at various prep schools in Massachusetts, the setting triggered memories from Giamatti’s youth, as a day student at a private school. After the movie was released, a high school friend wrote to him, pointing out the similarities between his character and the school’s head librarian.

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“And I thought, ‘I didn’t even think about the head librarian, but he’s right! I do seem like the head librarian,’” Giamatti says. “So, I mean, there was a deep well of people I was drawing on for this thing, even unconsciously.”

Giamatti recently won a Golden Globe for his performance in The Holdovers. The film is Giamatti’s second collaboration with director Alexander Payne — the first was the 2004 hit Sideways. Giamatti says when he asked Payne how his acting had changed over the past two decades, the director was “cagey.”

“I’m like, ‘Was I better? Better than I used to be?’ Giamatti says. “And he sort of says, ‘You’re pretty much the same. I liked you before, and I liked you now.’ … He won’t give me a straight answer about it.”

The star of the Showtime series Billions and the HBO miniseries John Adams acknowledges that he’s in a much different place in his career with The Holdovers than he was with Sideways. “I’m old and jaded now,” Giamatti says. But it’s more than that: “I think I have more command of things. Am I better or anything like that? I don’t know. But I was more relaxed, that’s for sure. And with [Payne], I was even more relaxed, because I trust him a lot.”

Interview highlights

On channeling his experience as a private school day student

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My whole life, I grew up around teachers and academia. My father was a professor. My mother was a teacher. My grandparents were all teachers and professors. So teachers and teaching were around me a lot.

Being a day student at one of those places is different than living there. I think in some ways it probably gave me an anthropological perspective on it that maybe you don’t have if you live there. So I had some distance on it to be able to observe it in some ways. It was an interesting part to play. It’s an interesting movie for me to watch, because I think there were a ton of unconscious memories affecting my system, and I was ending up calling up all kinds of people I wasn’t even aware of. I was watching it and thinking, oh, my God, I just reminded myself of this colleague of my father’s. I didn’t even realize I was doing that.

On his role in The Holdovers

I found the character quite touching because I thought he’s a guy who, as far as he’s concerned, is doing absolutely the right thing. He’s created this sort of persona for himself that feels very comfortable and safe to him. … He’s created this kind of fantasy world for himself. And it comes apart a little bit as the story goes on. This guy sort of has to let go of a lot of his shtick, in some ways … He’s lived in this strange, rarified world and this world of intellect and he’s hobbled by his own intellect. The thing that makes him feel superior is the thing that keeps separating him, too and he just doesn’t go about anything the right way. But he’s not wrong a lot of the time. … He’s somewhat self-aware. He takes pleasure in his own nasty wit in a way that hopefully is funny to people, and makes him somewhat appealing.

Giamatti says co-starring with Dominic Sessa was “really easily one of my favorite things I’ve done in a long time.”

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On co-starring with Dominic Sessa, who had never acted professionally before

It was very nearly the first acting he’d done. I mean, he had only done a couple of plays in high school. He was a student at one of the schools we shot at, Deerfield Academy, and he was still a student. He turned 19 just before we started shooting the movie. And he’d taken [some time] off because he had injured himself in sports. … So he was a little bit older. He was wonderful. … I thought he was extraordinary looking. He’s magnetic to just look at. I thought he seemed so intelligent, too, which was important in the character.

So I met with him to just work with him and loved him. He was a lovely guy, and working with him was really easily one of my favorite things I’ve done in a long time … because he was so fresh to it, and he was so thoughtful about it. And in some ways, I’ve gotten very proficient with things. I can do stuff fast and easy and move on and do my thing. And it was wonderful to have this guy who was less acquainted and more questioning in all ways, and to sort of slow down and just take it easy with him was really nice.

On his character’s disorder that makes him smell like fish

There’s a saying in theater, particularly when you do Shakespeare, that if you’re playing the king, you don’t have to play the king. Everyone around you plays that you are the king. And so I don’t need to play that I smell like fish. Everybody around me needs to play that. … The hair and makeup people, they said to me in particular, “Bathe as little as possible.” And I said, OK. I think it probably helps, to give me an appearance. … There’s a tactile sense probably about the guy that comes across [unkempt].

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On what inspired him to become an actor

It’s hard to articulate. … I enjoyed always the school plays and stuff, but I think when I did it in high school, there was a kind of sense of connection and communication that was almost shockingly joyous that I felt. … I felt connected to people, to the other actors, and I felt a sense of communal effort that was really, really exciting to me. And as much as playing the character and getting laughs and doing all those things was great, when I think about it now, I think it was genuinely this feeling of connection, and I can’t articulate it much better than that.

Lauren Krenzel and Seth Kelley produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Beth Novey adapted it for the web.

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‘Hamnet’ star Jessie Buckley looks for the ‘shadowy bits’ of her characters

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Jessie Buckley has been nominated for an Academy Award for best actress for her portrayal of William Shakespeare’s wife in Hamnet.

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Actor Jessie Buckley says she’s always been drawn to the “shadowy bits” of her characters — aspects that are disobedient, or “too much.” Perhaps that’s what led her to play Agnes, the wife of William Shakespeare, in Hamnet.

Buckley says the film, which is based on Maggie O’Farrell’s 2020 novel, offered a chance to counter a common narrative about the playwright’s wife: that she “had kept him back from his genius,” Buckley says.

But, she adds, “What Maggie O’Farrell so brilliantly did, not just with Agnes and Shakespeare’s wife, but also with Hamnet, their son, was to bring these people … and give them status beside this great man. … [And] give the full landscape of what it is to be a woman.”

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The film is nominated for eight Academy Awards, including best actress for Buckley. In it, she plays a woman deeply connected to nature, who faces conflicts in her marriage, as well as the death of their son Hamnet.

Buckley found out she was pregnant a week after the film wrapped. She’s since given birth to her first child, a daughter.

“The thing that this story offered me, that brought me into this next chapter of my life as a mother was tenderness,” she says. “A mother’s tenderness is ferocious. To love, to birth is no joke. To be born is no joke. And the minute something’s born into the world, you’re always in the precipice of life and death. That’s our path. … I wanted to be a mother so much that that overrode the thought of being afraid of it.”

Jessie Buckley stars as Agnes and Joe Alwyn plays her brother Bartholomew in Hamnet.

Jessie Buckley stars as Agnes and Joe Alwyn plays her brother Bartholomew in Hamnet.

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On filming the scene where she howls in grief when her son dies

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I didn’t know that that was going to happen or come out, it wasn’t in the script. I think really [director] Chloé [Zhao] asked all of us to dare to be as present as possible. Of course, leading up to it, you’re aware this scene is coming, but that scene doesn’t stand on its own. By the time I’d met that scene, I had developed such a deep bond with Jacobi Jupe, who plays Hamnet, and [co-stars] Paul [Mescal] and Emily Watson, and all the children and we really were a family. And Jacobi Jupe who plays Hamnet is such an incredible little actor and an incredible soul, and we really were a team. …

The death of a child is unfathomable. I don’t know where it begins and ends. Out of utter respect, I tried to touch an imaginary truth of it in our story as best I could, but there’s no way to define that kind of grief. I’m sure it’s different for so many people. And in that moment, all I had was my imagination but also this relationship that was right in front of me with this little boy and that’s what came out of that.

On what inspired her to pursue singing growing up

I grew up around a lot of music. My mom is a harpist and a singer and my dad has always been passionate about music, so it was always something in our house and always something that was encouraged. … Early on, I have very strong memories of seeing and hearing my mom sing in church and this quite intense mercurial conversation that would happen between her, the story and the people that would listen to her. And at the end of it, something had been cracked between them and these strangers would come up with tears in their eyes. And I guess I saw the power of storytelling through my mom’s singing at a very young age, and that was definitely something that made me think I want to do that.

On her first big break performing as a teen on the BBC singing competition I’d Do Anything — and being criticized by judges about her physical appearance

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I was raw. I hadn’t trained. I had a lot to learn and to grow in. I was only 17. I think there was part of their criticism which I think was destructive and unfair when it became about my awkwardness, or they would say I was masculine and send me to kind of a femininity school. … They sent me to [the musical production of] Chicago to put heels on and a leotard and learn how to walk in high heels, which was pretty humiliating, to be honest, and I’m sad about that because I think I was discovering myself as a young woman in the world and wasn’t fully formed. … I was different. I was wild, I had a lot of feeling inside me. I could hardly keep my hands beside myself and I think to kind of criticize a body of a young woman at that time and to make her feel conscious of that was lazy and, I think, boring.

On filming parts of the 2026 film The Bride! while pregnant

I really loved working when I was pregnant. I thought it was a pretty wild experience, especially because I was playing Mary Shelley and I was talking about [this] monstrosity, and here I was with two heartbeats inside me. Becoming a mom and being pregnant did something, I think, for me. My experience of it, it’s so real that it really focuses [me to be] allergic to fake or to disconnection.

Since my daughter has come and I know what that connection is and the real feeling of being in a relationship with somebody … as an actress, it’s very exciting to recognize that in yourself and really take ownership of yourself.

I’m excited to go back and work on this other side of becoming a mother in so many ways, because I’ve shed 10 layers of skin by loving more and experiencing life in such a new way with my daughter. I’m also scared to work again because it’s hard to be a mother and to work. That’s like a constant tug because I love what I do and I’m passionate and I want to continue to grow and learn and fill those spaces that are yet to be filled — and also be a mother. And I think every mother can recognize that tug.

On the possibility of bringing her daughter to travel with her as she works

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I haven’t filmed for nearly a year and I cannot wait. I’m hungry to create again. And my daughter will come with me. She’s seven months, so at the moment she can travel with us and it’s a beautiful life. And she meets all these amazing people and I have a feeling that she loves life and that’s a great thing to see in a child. And I hope that’s something that I’ve imparted to her in the short time that she’s been on this earth is that life is beautiful and great and complex and alive and there’s no part of you that needs to be less in your life. You might have to work it out, but it’s worth it.

Lauren Krenzel and Susan Nyakundi produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Beth Novey adapted it for the web.

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‘Scream 7’ takes a weak stab at continuing the franchise : Pop Culture Happy Hour

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Neve Campbell in Scream 7.

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The OG Scream Queen Neve Campbell returns. Scream 7 re-centers the franchise back on Sidney Prescott. She has a new life, a family, and lots of baggage. You know the drill: Someone dressing up as the masked slasher Ghostface comes for her, her family and friends. There’s lots of stabbing and murder and so many red herrings it’s practically a smorgasbord.

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