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How to have the best Sunday in L.A., according to Kelsey Grammer
Kelsey Grammer has played Frasier Crane for nearly a quarter century — most recently on a “Frasier” follow-up series that just last month wrapped its second season streaming on Paramount+. So it might be natural for longtime fans to conflate the small-screen psychologist with the man who won four Emmy Awards portraying him.
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That’s why when we spoke late last month to discuss Grammer’s ultimate Sunday L.A. itinerary, I was curious as to how much overlap there might be between the actor’s downtime and that of his most famous character.
“Honestly, I just play Frasier,” he said. “But I guess if Frasier could go sailing he would — and I’m pretty good on a boat. … And my favorite food is caviar, so I suppose that [would be something in common]. But that was my favorite food before I played Frasier.” (For the record, Grammer likes to score his salted sturgeon roe at the Cheese Store of Beverly Hills.)
Beyond that, Grammer, who says he’s lived in L.A. “since 1984, basically,” envisions the perfect Sunday here as one spent at home with wife Kayte Grammer, their three young children and a couple of miniature Australian Labradoodles.
This interview has been lightly edited and condensed for length and clarity.
5:30 a.m.: Coffee, phone calls and Word Cookies
I like to wake up in the morning and sit with my cup of coffee and enjoy the sort of the misty air that comes in off of Santa Monica. … I actually kind of like those June Gloom days when there’s a bit of moisture dripping down the windows of the kitchen from the fog that rolled in the night before [that] slowly recedes back toward the ocean.
I like to wake up early so I have a little bit of time on my own to write. I’ve been writing things for the last several years in that sort of magic hour as the sun starts to come up. So I sit down and try to peck out a few words, a few thoughts on a couple ideas I have. There’s a book about my sister [Karen Grammer] coming out in May, and there’s another one about [my experience working with veteran’s group] Operation Restored Warrior I’ve been working on. And there are several other things in the pipeline.
Years ago, I used to do the New York Times crossword puzzle every morning. I’ve sort of fallen from grace and tend to play board games on my phone now. I’ve got a whole bunch of apps on my phone, but pretty much the only one I play is Word Cookies. So I’ll do a little of that; I’ll do a couple of phone calls with the East Coast. I started a [Margaretville, N.Y.-based] beer company called Faith American Brewing Co. [in 2015], so there’s usually some beer business to catch up on.
7:30 a.m.: Kids and Koala Crisp
Then the kids start to get up and trundle in — the younger ones, who are 12, 10 and 8. And they’re like, “May I have a bowl of cereal,” which is usually organic — Koala Crisp is what I think it’s called. My older son, Jude, who was living with us — he’s off to college at Emerson right now — wouldn’t come down until sometime around three in the afternoon.
And then Kayte usually trundles in, and she’ll offer to tee up some oatmeal. She does a great morning oatmeal. So that’s all five of us just hanging out — plus sometimes folks who are in town visiting. And we all sit around and have some oatmeal.
10 a.m.: Hit the beach — or the trail — with the dogs
And then maybe we’d drive to the beach or go on a hike with the dogs — we have a couple of miniature Australian Labradoodles — up in the Santa Monica Mountains on a trail that comes out on Temescal Canyon. If it’s the beach, we’d be going to the Santa Monica Pier.
That basically would be the traffic of the day. In the old days, I would have gone sailing. I don’t have a sailboat anymore but, in my salad days, I’d go sailing at least twice a week. I had a Baltic 37, a sloop, that was a beautiful sailing boat, and I’d go out with a couple of friends and enjoy the day. But those days are coming again; we’re talking about getting a boat and maybe keeping it in Florida.
Noon: Midday multimedia multitasking
After that, it’s mostly just the family hanging out, maybe doing some reading together. “The Monstrumologist” [by Rick Yancey] is one my daughter Faith is reading. My son Gabriel is reading “Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire,” and my son James is reading the “Frog and Toad” [book series by Arnold Lobel]. So we’ll read those. Or they’ll catch up on their homework.
Sometimes we’ll watch a movie. I have a relationship with the studios and a server at the house, so they will just send over a first-run film, and Gabriel is nuts about trying to see movies on the day they come out. I think the last one we watched was “Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire,” and that was fun.
After that, honestly, we just sort of hang out. It’s a very domestic life. The kids love to go swimming; sometimes we’ll go for a hike in the mountains and that sort of thing.
2:30 p.m.: Get out in the garden
I’ve been doing some gardening lately and get out there about every day. So I might go out and sniff around our garden a little bit if I have a spare minute; pull up a few weeds or pick a tomato. The tomatoes were great this year — the cherry tomatoes were unbelievable — and we had great eggplants, bell peppers and jalapeno peppers. We have a spice garden too. The kids are not that interested [in gardening], although we have planted some strawberries together, and they like to go out there and pick them.
4 p.m.: Steak tartare and a martini
In the late afternoon, I love to go over to the Polo Lounge at the Beverly Hills Hotel and have steak tartare and a martini.
6:30 p.m.: Head to Nobu or e. Baldi
In the evening, we’d all jump into the car and head to Nobu because the boys love the yellowtail jalapeno. We also go to e. Baldi a lot [which is closed on Sundays]. Kayte likes to order penne arrabbiata [off the menu]. She also enjoys a dish called [My Favorite] Childhood Memory [“ravioli con la coda” filled with green chard and ricotta in melted butter and Parmigiano].
After that I might watch a football game on TV. My go-to team is the Miami Dolphins, but they’ve just been a tragedy for so long. I’m still nursing the [wounds of the] ’72-’73 season.
And one of my favorite things to have — and it’s been this way for a long time — is a hot fudge sundae. So, my ideal Sunday would probably include the best impression of a Denny’s hot fudge sundae I could find: vanilla ice cream — I love Häagen-Dazs — with crushed nuts and all that.
9:30 p.m.: Bedtime
Since I’m up at 5:30 a.m., I’m usually in bed by 9:30 p.m., so that’s when I shut things down. Pretty exciting, right?
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Shy on the dance floor? Virtual reality ‘partners’ aim to help you find your groove
Entrepreneur David Huang tests out a VR headset while conducting demonstrations of the social dance lesson app Dance Guru at the Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, Calif., June 17, 2026.
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Wedding season is in full swing, bringing with it a familiar sense of dread for anyone who fears the dance floor.
But relief may finally be at hand with the help of a new app, Dance Guru, and a virtual reality (VR) headset.
The social dance instruction app transports users to a spacious, digital dance studio. Waiting inside is a computer-generated coach: a handsome, male avatar wearing a shirt open to his navel. He speaks with a slightly gravelly English accent.
“Watch me now,” he instructs at the start of a waltz lesson — which NPR tried out at the Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, Calif., an annual conference showcasing the latest developments in virtual and augmented reality.
The avatar then demonstrates a basic box step.

From there, the lesson becomes interactive. The coach tells the user to hold his hand while an electric pinging sound tracks the student’s foot placement.
“One, two, three, four, five, six,” the virtual teacher counts down.
When the user stumbles, he remains remarkably patient. “Do not worry, foundations take time. Let’s try that again. Work on grounding your steps more intentionally.”
Solving the beginner’s dilemma
Dance Guru creator David Huang said he came up with the idea for the app a couple of years ago out of frustration.
“I always wanted to learn to dance and I was always terrible at it,” Huang said. “And I always ended up stopping midway through the lessons.”
He soon realized that many beginners hit the exact same roadblocks.
“Private lessons are too expensive, and you feel like you’re always forgetting the dance steps,” Huang said. “You cannot find a partner to dance with. So I figured maybe I can create something like this.”
The Dance Guru platform currently offers tutorials in salsa, bachata, waltz, and cha-cha, in both lead and follow modes. To make the digital instruction feel authentic, Huang used motion-capture technology to record the movements of real-life dance teachers — with their permission.
Building on the legacy of online tutorials and video games
Dance Guru belongs to a small but growing wave of apps using VR to demystify social dance. At a nearby booth, conference attendee Victor Chen is testing out a competing app called Trip the Light. It currently offers salsa lessons, as well as freestyle options, where a user can dance with a partner without having to learn specific steps.
Trip the Light’s booth at the Augmented World Expo included posters of the app’s virtual instructors. Real-life performers, who gave Trip the Light permission to motion capture their movements, were used as a basis for these avatars.
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“A lot of times when you’re trying to learn a choreography, it’s watching a YouTube video and you have to pause it, rewind, and play it,” Chen said. “If you were to have a virtual avatar dancing in front of you and correcting for any parts that you missed, it might be a lot easier.”
Interactive video games like Dance Dance Revolution and Just Dance, and YouTube tutorials have been helping people improve their skills in private for years. But those games are mostly aimed at solo players. Unlike the new generation of immersive VR apps, they cannot simulate the mechanics or confidence required for partner dancing on a live dance floor.
The reality check
But this kind of app won’t work for every dancer.
“Everyone learns a little bit differently. And so unless you have a game that has lots of different ways of teaching, you’re going to have things that work for some people and don’t work for others,” said Ariana Katana, a trained contemporary dancer and dance content creator who’s active on YouTube, Twitch and other platforms. “Also, it’s hard to dance with a headset on.”
And then there’s the issue of not being able to physically feel a virtual partner’s hand or shoulder while dancing with them. Patrick Ascolese, the creator of Trip the Light, said the experience could become more tactile in the future. “Haptic suits and wearables will be coming, but I think we’re a little away from that,” he said.
Ascolese said even with their limitations, immersive tools like Trip the Light have immense potential as judgment-free training grounds — giving reluctant dancers the baseline confidence they need to eventually step onto the dance floor with real partners in the real world, including at weddings.
“Just like anything else, practice makes perfect,” said Ascolese. “So the more time you spend in VR with a virtual partner, it works towards helping you get over that social hurdle. We are teaching you the moves that you have to do in order to go out and have fun.”
Jennifer Vanasco edited the broadcast and digital versions of this story. Chloee Weiner mixed the audio.




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How to have the best Sunday in L.A., according to Deidre Hall
For half a century, Deidre Hall has taken on every kind of disaster in the drama-packed town of Salem, Ill., as a star of “Days of Our Lives.”
There was the time — actually, it happened twice — when her character, Dr. Marlena Evans, was famously possessed by the devil and even levitated.
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Or the time a serial killer, who was actually Marlena under hypnosis, seemed to kill several beloved characters. The long-running show’s storylines have become legendary, and in March, while promoting “Hail Mary,” actor Ryan Gosling even gave Hall a shout-out, admitting he was a fan, praising the hard work of soap opera actors and calling her an “OG acting inspiration.”
But Hall’s real life in Santa Monica is much quieter than her character’s, and she likes it that way.
“When I bought my house in Santa Monica, I didn’t realize how great it would be to live near Montana Avenue,” says Hall, 78, about the popular shopping spot. Every day, she walks to the main street with her golden retriever, Riley, and enjoys Pilates, art and good food along the way. “The owners of the Farms Market even keep dog biscuits, so guess where the dog wants to go every time we walk — the Farms, of course,” she says, laughing.
When she isn’t filming the daily soap opera, which airs on Peacock, Hall enjoys raising monarch butterflies, exploring the shops and restaurants on Montana, and hosting movie nights at home with her two sons.
Here’s what a perfect day in L.A. looks like for her.
This interview has been lightly edited and condensed for length and clarity.
7 a.m.: Breakfast and dog walk
I usually kick off my day with a protein shake, feed our golden retriever and take her out for a walk. She’s a phenomenal girl. When we adopted her, her name was Riley, but I did think about naming her after Mrs. Hughes from “Downton Abbey.”
10 a.m.: Church and garden time
After I walk the dog and go to church, I like to spend some time in my yard. I’m not a natural gardener, but I really enjoy it. I started raising monarch butterflies because my identical twin sister, who played my twin on the show, planted a butterfly garden. Monarchs are amazing because they are transitional. Every year, they travel from Mexico to southern New England, but it’s getting harder for them. Their numbers have dropped by about 80%. To help, I plant milkweed, which is what they need to survive. I buy my milkweed from the Staghorn Garden on Wilshire Boulevard in Santa Monica. Julie, who owns the nursery, is delightful and has a wide variety of milkweed. The monarchs always seem to find my garden. Julie was raising some caterpillars too, and she cared a lot about them. We talked about how important it is to help the butterflies. That’s why I do this. Sometimes I get milkweed with eggs already on it, and Julie knows her butterflies are going to a good home.
1 p.m.: Walk to Montana Avenue for some lunch
I live near Montana and love taking long walks, going to Pilates and trying out the great restaurants nearby, like R+D Kitchen and La La Land. I’m a big fan of the waffles at the Courtyard Kitchen. Just a few days ago, I had a chicken salad on raisin bread with an Arnold Palmer, and it was delicious. It is right on Montana and has a nice outdoor seating area. It’s one of my favorite spots. La La Land always has a long line in the morning, which is perfect if you want coffee. They serve coffee, doughnuts, croissants and avocado toast. There’s plenty of outdoor seating, and you can even bring your dog.
2 p.m.: Peek inside a clock shop
There’s a small clock shop on Montana Avenue that’s closed on Sundays, but if you walk by, you’ll see all kinds of clocks — standing, table and wall clocks. The owner is great at fixing them. Once, I bought a wall clock from MacKenzie-Childs, but it didn’t work. And I was really upset because it matched everything else on my countertop. I brought it to the owner and said, “I love this, but I can’t make it work.” He fixed it right away. His name is John, but I call him Geppetto. And we all know why. He really does have a magic touch.
2:30 p.m.: Visit a neighborhood art gallery
Ten Women Gallery is run by 10 artists, all of whom show their work there. I was drawn to some watercolors there, bought a few cards and spoke with one of the artists. She told me, “You seem to love watercolors,” and mentioned that the artist who painted them, Pamela Harnois, lives in Los Angeles and teaches nearby. I got Pamela’s name and found out she taught at the Brentwood Art School. I was so inspired by her gift that I started taking private lessons with her on Saturdays. That gallery is where I discovered my love for watercolor painting.
3 p.m.: Grab some ice cream at Rori’s
The other day, my longtime girlfriend wanted to get ice cream and told me, “We are walking to Rori’s Artisanal Creamery.” It’s a small shop on Montana near Lincoln. They make everything themselves, using local ingredients from grass-fed cows with no added hormones. The place is family-owned and probably has the healthiest ice cream you’ll find. They switch up their flavors often, but my favorite is the salted caramel.
6 p.m.: Family dinner and movie night at home
R+D Kitchen is always packed, so my sons, who are 31 and 33, do the cooking. They come over, and together we make salads and cook dinner. There’s a neighborhood grocery store called the Farms, off Montana, a small family-run place that has everything we need. Everyone knows each other there, and people bring their dogs. We try to have movie night every Sunday. Sometimes the day changes, but we always make sure to have one night a week where we cook a meal and sit down as a family. Keeping that tradition has become really important to us. My sons are great cooks, which is funny because they definitely didn’t get that from me. [Laughs]
9 p.m.: Take Riley for one last walk and visit neighbors
After dinner, I take my dog for a walk. It’s a great way to meet neighbors. We always go around the same block. We’ve met so many people, and since she’s a golden retriever, she loves meeting everyone.
10 p.m.: News, knitting and bedtime
I am a news junkie, so I usually watch whatever is on the news before I go to bed. I have a long-standing passion for knitting. Lately, though, the news would make me drop a stitch.
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