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Southwest 737 Has Dangerous, Stormy Go Around In Hawaii
Southwest Airlines has just internally revealed details of an incident that occurred back in April 2024, which can only be described as a very close call.
Southwest 737 descends to 400 feet above ocean
This incident dates back to April 11, 2024, and involves Southwest Airlines flight WN2786, scheduled to operate from Honolulu (HNL) to Lihue (LIH). The short 102-mile flight was operated by a roughly two-year-old Boeing 737 MAX 8 with the registration code N8788L.
Interestingly this incident wasn’t investigated by authorities at the time. Instead, this safety incident was reported internally, and Southwest’s Director of Flight Safety Programs & Assurance recently sent a memo to all pilots about what happened, which is why this is now getting some publicity.
With this incident, a very senior captain and a very junior first officer were paired on a three-day trip to Hawaii. The flight from the mainland to Hawaii went well, and then on the second day they were supposed to operate some inter-island flights.
Before the first flight, the pilots saw that the weather conditions at Lihue Airport were bad (poor visibility, thunderstorms, strong winds, etc.), and many pilots of other aircraft were performing missed approaches. Nonetheless, the captain elected to have the first officer be the “pilot flying” on this sector, to build their experience.
The pilots were prepared for a potential go around, given that conditions at the departure airport were just above the “minimums” needed to land, so they were fully briefed on the correct procedures. Sure enough, when the aircraft approached runway 17, the pilots didn’t have the runway in sight, so the first officer called for a go around. Unfortunately this go around was anything but routine.
During the go around, the first officer inadvertently pushed forward on the control column. The first officer also noticed the red airspeed tape, and pulled back on the thrust levers. When you push forward the control column and reduce thrust, there’s only one direction the plane is going, and that’s down. The plane descended all the way down to 400 feet(!!!!) above the Pacific Ocean.
While the “DON’T SINK” and “PULL UP” warnings went off in the cockpit during this time, the first officer states they didn’t hear this due to intense task saturation.
Fortunately the captain noticed what was going on at this point, and told the first officer to climb and turn left, causing the first officer to aggressively increase thrust. The aircraft climbed, maxing out at a climb rate of 8,500 feet per minute, which is very high.
Once the situation stabilized, the pilots first entered a holding pattern, and then made the decision to return to Honolulu, where the plane landed just under 85 minutes after it first departed.
Once back on the ground in Honolulu, the captain consulted with the dispatcher, and made the decision to try flying to Lihue again, with the captain being the “pilot flying” this time. Interestingly, the first officer didn’t speak up against this at the time, but later said that they wish they had shared their desire not to try a second attempt.
The first officer stated that they didn’t speak up in order to maintain the integrity of Southwest’s operation, and also because regulatory requirements to operate were still being met. So the flight departed Honolulu again, but weather conditions deteriorated, so the aircraft ultimately returned to Honolulu a second time.
@jonostrower published the full letter that Southwest shared internally with pilots regarding the incident, which is some fascinating reading.
I’m curious what’s learned from this event
It goes without saying that this event was terrifying, and a close call. The aircraft descended all the way down to 400 feet with virtually no visibility, so the plane was literally seconds from being in the Pacific Ocean. Fortunately this had a good ending for all involved.
There’s something to be learned from every aviation incident. Both pilots participated in a human factors interview following the flight, and stated that “seeing the severity of the event through the animations was a significant, emotional event.” The pilots also participated in comprehensive, corrective action, including Line Experience.
It’s way beyond my area of expertise to judge what happened here. It’s common for senior captains to be paired with junior officers (especially given how airline hiring has evolved in recent years), and it’s also important for newer pilots to gain experience with difficult situations, under close supervision.
What’s at least reassuring here is how transparently Southwest is communicating internally regarding this incident, and the fact that the pilots voluntarily reported what happened. That’s ultimately how aviation becomes safer.
Bottom line
A Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 had a close call in Hawaii back in April, while trying to land in Lihue during a storm. A junior first officer was flying, and executed a go around. Somehow the first officer inadvertently pushed the control column down while also reducing thrust, causing the jet to descend to an altitude of just 400 feet above sea level.
Once the error was realized, the pilots went to the opposite extreme, and the jet climbed at a speed of up to 8,500 feet per minute. Fortunately the pilots managed to divert the aircraft safely back to Honolulu, but my gosh, what an incident.
What do you make of this Southwest incident?
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Flood advisory in effect for Oahu, Maui and Hawaii island | Honolulu Star-Advertiser
UPDATE: 11:13 a.m.
A flood advisory is in effect for Oahu until 2:15 p.m. today due to flooding caused by excessive rainfall.
At 11:09 a.m., the radar showed heavy rain developing and traveling slowly eastward over Oahu.
“The heaviest rain is currently over the western half of the island, but is expected to fill in and move over the remainder of the island over the next few hours. Rain was falling at a rate of 0.5 to 2 inches per hour,” forecasters said.
Some locations that will experience flooding include Honolulu, Waipio, Mililani, Pearl City, Waikele, Wahiawa, Wheeler Field, Waipahu, Aiea, Kunia, Halawa, Waiahole, Waikane, Schofield Barracks, Salt Lake, Kahaluu, Moanalua, Ahuimanu, Iroquois Point and Ewa Beach.
Meanwhile, the flood advisories have been extended for Hawaii County and 1:45 p.m. and Maui County until 2:30 p.m.
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At 10:30 a.m., the radar showed heavy rain moving over portions of the Puna and Kau coasts. Rain was falling at a rate of 1 to 2 inches per hour, with the heaviest rates of up to 3 inches per hour between Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park and Pahoa, including portions of Pahoa Kalapana Road and Highway 11.
Some locations that will experience flooding include Hilo, Hawaii Volcanoes National Park, Volcano, Glenwood,
Mountain View, Wood Valley, Hawaiian Acres, Pahala, Orchidlands Estates, Keaau, Pahoa, Punaluu Beach, Kawa Flats, Papaikou, Naalehu, and Fern Forest.
At 11:04 a.m., the radar showed heavy rain over portions of eastern Maui. Rain was falling at a rate of 1 to 2 inches per hour with the highest rainfall rates in the upslope areas between Kaupo and Nahiku.
“While no significant impacts have been noted as of yet, additional rainfall over that area today is expected to produce more flooding concerns,” forecasters said.
The flood watch remains for all Hawaiian Islands.
EARLIER COVERAGE
A flood watch is in effect for all Hawaiian Islands today through Monday afternoon due to the possibility of flash flooding caused by excessive rainfall, according to the National Weather Service.
A deepening Kona low north of Kauai is expected to move southwest today and Monday before turning west. Thunderstorms and heavy showers will affect the region over the next couple days leading to the flash flood threat. Winds may strengthen to wind advisory levels Monday for lower elevations and high wind warnings on Hawaii island summits. Lingering moisture may keep rain over the state through the week.
>> Prepare for rainy weather as Kona low hits Hawaii
“Flood prone roads and other low lying areas may be closed due to elevated runoff and overflowing streams,” according to the forecast. “Urban areas may receive more significant flooding and property damage due to rapid runoff. Significant flooding may occur due to the overflow of streams and drainages. Landslides may also occur in areas with steep terrain.”
The greatest flood risk is along the southeastern mountain slopes of Maui and Hawaii counties as deep moisture spreads up the slopes.
The flood watch may be extended into Tuesday if weather conditions persist.
Flood advisories are also in effect for Hawaii County until 10:45 a.m. today, while Maui County will remain in effect until 11:30 a.m. today.
At 7:45 a.m. today, the Hawaii island radar indicated heavy rain traveling over portions of Puna and Kau coasts. Rain was falling at a rate of 1 to 2 inches per hour, with isolated heavier rainfall rates of 3 inches per hour between Pahala and Pahoa including areas of Pahoa Kalapana Road and Highway 11.
Some locations that will experience flooding include Hilo, Hawaii Volcanoes National Park, Volcano, Glenwood, Mountain View, Wood Valley, Hawaiian Acres, Pahala, Orchidlands Estates, Keaau, Pahoa, Punaluu Beach, Kawa Flats, Papaikou, Naalehu, and Fern Forest.
At 8:19 a.m. today, the Maui County radar showed heavy rain continuing to develop and move over the eastern portions of the island. Rain was falling at a rate of 1 to 2 inches per hour with the highest rates and totals found in the upslope areas between Kaupo and Nahiku.
Some locations that will experience flooding include Kipahulu, Kaupo, Hana, Haleakala National Park and Hamoa.
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Hawaii delegation raises legal concerns over Venezuela
HONOLULU (KHON2) — Three of Hawaii’s Congressional Delegation released statements on Saturday, Jan.3, in response to President Trump’s overnight operation in Venezuela.
“At a time when Americans can’t afford rent, healthcare, or groceries, the Trump administration found time and money for regime change in Venezuela, risking a war that Americans don’t want. Before we spend another dollar on this reckless conflict, the American people deserve answers, including what this administration’s exit strategy is. Americans wanted help and hope in 2026, not another war,” said Tokuda.
U.S. Representative Jill Tokuda (HI-02)
Others echoed concerns about the legality of the operation, pointing to both international law and the U.S. Constitution. While acknowledging Venezuela’s political situation, some members of Hawaii’s congressional delegation said military action raises serious questions that extend beyond the actions of any one leader.
“Nicholas Maduro is an illegitimate and oppressive dictator and the people of Venezuela deserve better. But that alone doesn’t justify an armed attack on a sovereign country and forced regime change in violation of international law,” said Case. “And unless there was an imminent threat to our country, it doesn’t justify violating our Constitution and war powers law, which wisely reserves to Congress the grave decision to go to war.”
U.S. Representative Ed Case (HI-01)
Case also emphasized that Congress plays a critical role in decisions involving war and military force.
“I don’t yet know the full facts or the President’s justification to attack Venezuela, place our troops in harm’s way, capture Maduro and administer the country,” said Case. “But the precedent of any President taking our country to war arbitrarily, single-handedly and without the approval of Congress has cascading effects that are far more dangerous.”
U.S. Representative Ed Case (HI-01)
Senator Brian Schatz also weighed in, saying the operation could put American lives and interests at risk.
“President Trump is jeopardizing American lives and interests — and stating plainly that the purpose is for U.S. oil companies to make money in Venezuela. Either these companies knew about these plans in advance, or he’s ordering corporations to be a part of his effort to overthrow another government,” said Schatz. “This operation is illegal under international law and unconstitutional without prior congressional approval. The United States should not be running other countries for any reason. We should have learned by now not to get involved in endless wars and regime change missions that carry catastrophic consequences for Americans.”
U.S. Senator Brian Schatz (D-Hawai‘i)
Hawaii’s congressional lawmakers stressed that, while the situation in Venezuela is complex, military action should not be taken lightly.
“Nicolas Maduro should be held accountable for his actions, but Donald Trump’s unilateral decision to overthrow his regime does nothing to make our country safer. Instead, without any authorization from Congress or any clear plan for what comes next, Trump is plunging our nation into a conflict that could put American lives at risk while destabilizing the region and our relationships with our allies,” said Hirono. “Trump’s characteristically chaotic suggestion that the U.S is “going to run” Venezuela indefinitely, without any details, shows his disregard for the consequences of decades of misguided American intervention around the world. Trump promised to “end forever wars” and not engage in regime change. As usual, he says one thing and does another.”
U.S. Senator Mazie K. Hirono (D-HI)
With questions still surrounding the operation, Hawaii’s congressional leaders say transparency and oversight are critical moving forward. They stated that decisions of this extent should not be made without the involvement of Congress or the public.
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