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Oklahoma schools chief spars with CNN host over teaching the Bible in classrooms in heated interview

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Oklahoma Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters defended a new mandate requiring the Bible to be incorporated into classroom lessons during a heated clash on CNN on Tuesday.

“The Bible includes beheading, rape and incest,” CNN host Pamela Brown said to Walters at the start of the interview. “Do you support teaching children about those topics?”

Walters did not directly address Brown’s question, but explained that referencing the Bible was necessary to understand historical documents and important events in our nation’s history, from its founding to the Civil Rights movement. 

“It had a profound influence on American history. It was the best-selling book in American history. To not teach that in the classroom is academic malpractice,” he told Brown.

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Oklahoma Schools Chief Ryan Walters debated CNN’s Pamela Brown on the Bible being taught in Oklahoma public schools on CNN on Tuesday.

The two sparred as Brown continued to press him to answer if the more graphic elements in the Bible were acceptable in the classroom.

“Will you allow teachers to teach all aspects of the Bible? How are teachers supposed to know what of the Bible to teach and what not to teach? It’s a simple question,” she asked again, before referencing the conservative figure’s fight to eradicate pornographic books from school classrooms and libraries.

“Let me be crystal clear: The Bible is not on the same plane as ‘Gender Queer’ and ‘Flamer,’ Walters retorted. “These are pornography.”

“We have academic standards that tell our teachers that you are to talk about the Bible in reference to the Mayflower Compact, letters from a Birmingham Jail, the Declaration of Independence,” he continued. “It‘s very clear from primary sources that these individuals referenced in our history, they referenced the Bible. So, look, when it‘s historically accurate, we’re absolutely going to include that. I mean, think about how absurd it would be to teach about the Pilgrims if you don‘t mention their intention for moving to the New World? It‘s crucial and we‘re not going to allow the radical Left to continue to push a false history on our kids that said that faith played no role. Well, just read the history. It’s clearly there.”

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A new mandate in Oklahoma requires public school teachers to incorporate the Bible as a reference in history lessons, the school superintendent argued. (iStock)

Brown continued to push back on Walters’ arguments, offering counterpoints to his stance on the influence of the Bible and Christianity on the founding of America.

“We should note… God is not mentioned in the Constitution. It is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, but not a Christian God, right, and it also says that all men are created equal. And one would argue it‘s not creating a stature of, ‘If you‘re a Christian, if you believe in the Bible, you are of a higher stature,’” she responded. 

Walters maintained his argument and told the CNN host, “People can be offended by that, they may not like it, but they can’t rewrite our history.”

“To censor the Bible out of our schools is to create our schools to be state-sponsored atheist centers,” he continued. “Our position is purely historical.”

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The new directive from the top education official requires all public schools in Oklahoma to add the Bible and the Ten Commandments as “instructional support into the curriculum across specified grade levels.” The religious text will be referenced as appropriate in the study of “history, civilization, ethics, comparative religion…as well as for their substantial influence on our nation’s founders and the foundational principles of our Constitution,” the memo states.

Walters said in the memo that his directive aligns with educational standards approved in May 2019.

Although Louisiana Republican Gov. Jeff Landry signed a bill into law last week requiring the Ten Commandments to be displayed in every classroom by 2025, Walters says Oklahoma is the first state to require the Bible be used in all classrooms, effective immediately.

Fox News’ Greg Wehner contributed to this article.

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Disturbance involving 200 juveniles forces Carson shopping mall to close

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Disturbance involving 200 juveniles forces Carson shopping mall to close

A major disturbance involving hundreds of juveniles forced a busy shopping mall in Carson to close Saturday night.

Authorities received reports of the large gathering at the SouthBay Pavilion Mall at around 5:20 p.m., according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.

During the gathering, a trash can was lit on fire and illegal fireworks were set off inside a store at the mall, deputies said.

Dispersal orders were given to the teens but they reportedly refused to comply. More law enforcement backup was called to the scene as the teens were disrupting business and endangering shoppers, officials said.

  • A large disturbance involving around 200 juveniles forced a busy shopping mall in Carson to close on July 6, 2024. (KTLA)
  • Teen suspects were seen being handcuffed and detained after a large disturbance forced a Carson shopping mall to close on July 6, 2024. (KTLA)
  • Teen suspects were seen being handcuffed and detained after a large disturbance forced a Carson shopping mall to close on July 6, 2024. (KTLA)
  • A large disturbance involving around 200 juveniles forced a busy shopping mall in Carson to close on July 6, 2024. (KTLA)
  • A large disturbance involving around 200 juveniles forced a busy shopping mall in Carson to close on July 6, 2024. (KTLA)
  • A large disturbance involving around 200 juveniles forced a busy shopping mall in Carson to close on July 6, 2024. (KTLA)
  • A large disturbance involving around 200 juveniles forced a busy shopping mall in Carson to close on July 6, 2024. (KTLA)

“Some kids had started a fire in the trash cans, so they had detained over 100 kids,” said witness Jamila Buie. 

Around 60 to 70 juveniles were reportedly detained. It’s unclear what prompted the gathering. 

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Photos from the scene showed a large law enforcement presence surrounding the mall as the teen suspects were handcuffed.

Authorities spent around five hours detaining the suspects involved.

“Deputies detained multiple juveniles who were issued citations in relation to the incident and will be required to appear in court at a future date,” LASD said.

No injuries or thefts of retail shops were reported during the incident.

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Search for Lake Michigan missing boaters turns to recovery mission

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Search and recovery operations will resume Sunday morning for two boaters who went missing on Lake Michigan in northwest Indiana on Friday, local officials say.

Search efforts for the missing swimmers began Friday, though officials on Saturday turned efforts toward a recovery mission, which will continue Sunday with the help of sonar equipment, according to FOX 32 in Chicago.

The search was called off late Friday as nightfall descended on rescue efforts. Weather conditions in the area are hampering search efforts due to strong winds and high waves, the Indiana Department of Natural Resources tells Fox News Digital. 

The two men had been on a boat with ten other people, including adults and juveniles, about two and a half miles off Whiting on Lake Michigan at around 2:30 p.m. when one of the men jumped off the boat to swim but began to struggle, the station reported.

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Search operations resumed Saturday morning for two men who went missing while out in Lake Michigan in northwest Indiana on Friday, local officials say. Pictured are two Coast Guard vessels and another boat. (Fox 32)

The group tried to move the boat closer to him but couldn’t reach him due to the strong winds and waves, and then a second man jumped into the water to try and help the first swimmer.

However, the second man also got into difficulty, prompting a third man in a life jacket to then go into the water but then got separated from the other two men.

The man wearing the life jacket was then rescued by the Coast Guard at around 4:30 p.m. and taken to a hospital for mild hypothermia but has since been released. 

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Whiting in Lake Michigan is marked. The two men were on a boat with ten other people about two and a half miles off Whiting when the incident took place. (Google Maps)

Marty Benson, of the Indiana Department of Natural Resources, tells Fox News Digital that the Lake County Sheriff’s Department, the Hammond Fire Department, the Hammond Police Department, and the Hammond Port Authority are helping with search efforts. 

One of the missing men is from Elk Grove Village, and the other is from Mount Prospect. 

Also on Friday, a man and a teenage girl were rescued from Lake Michigan at Muskegon’s Pere Marquette Park, which is about 45 miles northwest of Grand Rapids, WWMT reports.

The teenager was found first and was initially unresponsive but was responsive as of 6 p.m. Friday. Crews were not able to locate the man for a while, but he was pulled to shore and CPR was performed. He is in serious condition, according to local reports. 

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File photo. The U.S. Coast Guard arrives to help an ailing boat at the mouth of the Merrimack, New Hampshire.  (Erin Clark/The Boston Globe via Getty Images)

On Thursday, the Coast Guard rescued two children and two adults from the water off Galveston, Texas, after their vessel capsized.  

When the Coast Guard arrived on the scene, they found the four clinging to the capsized vessel. The two children were wearing life jackets, but the two adults were not.

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They were safely taken to shore, and no injuries were reported, the Coast Guard said.

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51 arrested in massive drug, theft bust in Southern California

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51 arrested in massive drug, theft bust in Southern California

Fifty-one suspects were arrested during a multi-million dollar drug and theft bust in Southern California.

The operation, which spanned three counties, was conducted by the San Bernardino Police Department’s Auto Theft Task Force along with other local agencies.

Authorities searched multiple locations where 51 suspects were arrested in total.

During the crackdown, a stockpile of illegal and stolen goods was discovered including:

  • $8 million of stolen cargo
  • $325,000 in cash
  • 425 pounds of methamphetamine
  • 48 gallons of liquid meth
  • 20 stolen vehicles
  • 20 rifles and handguns
  • 1 working meth lab
  • Fifty-one suspects were arrested and $8 million worth of stolen cargo was discovered during a San Bernardino County bust operation. (San Bernardino Police Department)
  • Fifty-one suspects were arrested and $8 million worth of stolen cargo was discovered during a San Bernardino County bust operation. (San Bernardino Police Department)

Photos of the bust show the stolen cargo was stored in a warehouse and, along with the seized firearms, officers found a significant amount of ammunition as well.

The 51 suspects who were arrested were booked on numerous charges including felonies related to train burglaries, VIN-switched stolen vehicles, operating a meth lab, possession of meth for sale, child endangerment, possession of assault weapons, conspiracy and more.

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The suspects’ identities were not released.

Anyone with information on the case can contact San Bernardino police at 909-384-5742.

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