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Q&A with IU basketball recruit Liam McNeeley: Why Indiana and pitching Hoosiers to friends
Mike Woodson has IU basketball competing at recruiting’s top table
This offseason Indiana basketball has added high-profile transfers and is recruiting multiple top-50 prospects.
Courtesy of IU Athletics, Indianapolis Star
SPRINGFIELD, Mass. – Liam McNeeley is a lone wolf — at least for now. A five-star commit ranked No. 15 in the Class of 2024 per 247Sports, is the lone member of the Hoosiers incoming recruiting class so far.
McNeeley, a 6-7, 210-pound small forward, caught up with IndyStar at the Spalding Hoophall Classic fresh off a sold-out contest where his ESPN SCNext Top 25 boys No. 1 Montverde Academy topped No. 7 Prolific Prep, 76-71, at Blake Arena on the campus of Springfield College Sunday evening. McNeeley finished with a team-high 22 points on 8-of-12 shooting, three rebounds and three assists.
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This interview was edited for clarity.
Q: You play for the top-ranked high school team in the country with five of the top-50 ranked seniors. What have you learned from being one of many stars?
A: Last year was my first time playing with this amount of talent. There’s just such a different speed and physicality to the game, even every day in practice. It forces you to learn how to play with other great players.
Q: Why Indiana?
Coach (Mike) Woody (Woodson) was just on me. He was always consistent. (Assistant) coach (Brian) Walsh was always consistent. Coach Woody’s an NBA-style coach, and that’s where I’m trying to go.
Q: Favorite moment in Bloomington so far?
A: I was there for the game vs. Kennesaw State and got to throw out t-shirts to the crowd. That was really cool.
Q: Since committing to Indiana in October, how closely have you followed the team?
A: There’re a lot of times where we have games at the same time, but every time I’m able to watch those games. I’m always checking ESPN scores if I don’t get to watch it.
Q: How much do you and your high-profile teammates discuss your recruitments?
A: We’re obviously close friends, like family. We’re brothers, so we let each other in on some stuff, but we don’t tell the world.
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Q: How do you pitch Indiana to prospective recruits?
A: I’m recruiting one big fella and I think y’all know who it is (Montverde teammate Derik Queen). I use Trayce Jackson-Davis a lot. He’s playing really well in the league.
Q: Have you identified what your college role might be?
A: I’m going to try to be as versatile as I can. Coach Woody said he’s going to trust me with the ball, trust me to make plays, and he’s going to force me to guard.
Q: What’s your most college ready skill?
A: My versatility. I can play many different positions on the floor.
Q: What do you want to improve on the most before getting to Indiana?
A: The biggest thing I’m working on is just on-ball defense and off-ball defense, guarding smaller guards because that’s what I want to do.
Q: Who’s your college or NBA player comp?
A: I watch a lot of Lua Dončić because I’m from Dallas. He’s my favorite player right now.
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Recap: Stanford WBB falls to Indiana on the road
On Sunday, Stanford women’s basketball fell to Indiana on the road by a final score of 79-66. Indiana senior guard Chloe Moore-McNeil led the way for the Hoosiers with 21 points while junior guard Shay Ciezki (19 points) and guard Yarden Garzon (18 points) also scored in double figures. Stanford sophomore forward Nunu Agara was the top performer for the Cardinal with 15 points. Indiana improves to 2-2 overall while Stanford falls to 4-1.
BOX SCORE: Stanford at Indiana-Sunday, November 17th
Indiana would lead 24-22 at the end of the 1st quarter. Moore-McNeil was leading the way for the Hoosiers with 10 points. Agara was keeping the Cardinal in it with eight points and two assists.
At halftime, Indiana would lead 42-31. The Hoosiers outscored the Cardinal 18-9 in the 2nd quarter. Moore-McNeil was up to 12 points for the Hoosiers while Garzon had 10 points and five rebounds. Agara was doing her part for the Cardinal with 11 points. She needed more help.
At the end of the 3rd quarter, Indiana led 61-44. Moore-McNeil was up to 19 points for the Hoosiers. Agara had 15 points for the Cardinal, but nobody else was in double figures. It had been a rough outing for the rest of the Cardinal.
In the end, Indiana would win by a final score of 79-66. Stanford tried to close the gap a bit in the 4th quarter, but they were down by too much in the 3rd to mount any sort of real comeback.
For Stanford, this is a bit of disappointing outcome, but what softens it a bit for them is this happened on the road against an Indiana team that started off the season ranked. I think the most disappointing aspect of this for Stanford is the way they lost. They never were in this game as they shot 2-11 from 3-point range while getting outrebounded 35-32.
Up next for Stanford is a home game against Morgan State on Friday at 7:00 PM PT on ACCNX. Stanford will be heavily favored in that one and look to get back in the win column with ease.
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A Group of Undersized, Overlooked Transfers Has Been Key to Indiana’s Success
One after another, six Indiana Hoosiers shook off pouring rain on their way into the Henke Hall of Champions at Memorial Stadium for one-on-one interviews with Sports Illustrated last week.
None was on time.
They were all early.
They were running on Cignetti Time, where being late is a foreign concept. That’s one element of the detail-oriented, habits-based standard set by first-year Indiana coach and immediate program savior Curt Cignetti. It’s a standard that has been transferred to Bloomington by the 13 Hoosiers who first learned it from him at their previous stop, James Madison University.
They are the program’s ministers of culture.
The six who sat down for interviews were all former Dukes. They relocated from Harrisonburg, Va., to the heart of the Midwest, from the Sun Belt Conference to the Big Ten, from competing in relative obscurity to becoming a national curiosity. They all have a few things in common, beyond punctuality:
Surprised to be 10–0? Why should they be when these same players were 10–0 last year, on their way to an 11–2 record? They were 8–3 the year before that, a roaring success after James Madison moved up from the FCS level to FBS. And the year before that, in 2021, they went 12–2 and reached the FCS playoff semifinals.
The Indiana players who were on Cignetti’s final three JMU teams are now 41–6 in college. Their .872 winning percentage compares favorably to players who have spent four years at Alabama (.846), Michigan (.849) and, yes, this Saturday’s Goliath opponent, Ohio State (.857).
Different school, different uniforms, different opponents, different level of attention and acclaim—same results.
“Winning was always the plan,” says linebacker Aiden Fisher, Indiana’s top tackler. “With the success we had at JMU it was like, why not continue that here?”
The shock comes from how easily it has translated. The Dukes of Hoosierland stand in direct refutation of the perceived talent gulf between the Power 4 conferences and the Group of 5. There is an eternal gulf of resources and exposure, to be sure, but not always in ability.
The national leader in passing yards per game is Cam Ward of the Miami Hurricanes, who started his college career at the FCS level at Incarnate Word. His ability translated up the ladder.
The national leader in rushing is Ashton Jeanty of the Boise State Broncos, who drew scant power-conference interest coming out of high school. He’s now considered a first-round NFL draft pick and might win the Heisman Trophy.
Anyone who doubted Shedeur Sanders’s ability to transition from FCS Jackson State to the power-conference Colorado Buffaloes has been properly silenced. The top receiver for the No. 1 Oregon Ducks, Tez Johnson, transferred in from a Sun Belt program, the Troy Trojans. Last year’s leading FBS rusher, Cody Schrader of the Missouri Tigers, came from Division II Truman University.
Indiana is the ultimate collective example, a team-wide triumph of transferrable talent that is assuredly unprecedented in the FBS ranks. It’s a football miracle to go from 3–9 to 10–0 in a single season with nearly half of the depth chart upgrading from lower levels.
Twenty-seven players transferred in to join Cignetti’s start-up, and 21 came from the G5 or FCS ranks (13 from JMU). The transfers fit the coach’s production-over-potential philosophy—older, experienced guys who had proven they could play college ball, regardless of what their recruiting rankings were coming out of high school.
Indiana’s quarterback, Kurtis Rourke, is a Canadian who had performed well for years with the Ohio Bobcats in the Mid-American Conference. He’s now No. 2 in the nation in pass efficiency. Its No. 3 tackler, Shawn Asbury II, made 93 tackles in 2023 at Old Dominion. Indiana’s third-leading player in tackles for loss, CJ West, is from Kent State.
But the vast majority of the key contributors who have elevated to the Big Ten—and elevated the Hoosiers within the Big Ten—are from James Madison. Four of Indiana’s top five tacklers are from JMU. So are its top three in sacks. The leading receiver is a JMU transfer, as are the Nos. 2 and 3 rushers.
Beyond Rourke, Indiana’s leading candidates for individual postseason honors were Dukes who have kept doing here what they were doing there. Fisher, who is tied for second in the Big Ten in tackles with 98, had 108 stops last year. Defensive end Mikail Kamara, has 15 tackles for loss and 9.5 sacks after producing 19 and 7.5, respectively, in 2023. The Harrisonburg-to-Bloomington pipeline has been a rich strike.
“The coaches told us, ‘Yo, we believe you could fit in the Big Ten,’” linebacker Jailin Walker says. “So we trusted their word. We came to the Big Ten and we got better. Bigger and stronger and better.”
It’s striking how many of the Dukes of Hoosierland are from the state of Virginia: Fisher is from Fredericksburg; Kamara from Ashburn; Walker from Richmond; running back Kaelon Black from Virginia Beach; leading receiver Elijah Sarratt from Stafford; defensive lineman Tyrique Tucker is from Norfolk; tight end Zach Horton and defensive tackle James Carpenter from Roanoke. And almost none were seriously recruited by the in-state Atlantic Coast Conference programs the Virginia Cavaliers and Virginia Tech Hokies.
“My family’s a big Virginia Tech family,” Horton says. “We still cheer for them today because that’s how we are. But not be able to get recruited by them or hear anything from them makes you play for a little bit more.”
“Oh yeah, it bothered me,” Fisher says. “It still does. But I think we’re sitting in a much better spot than they are right now.”
That’s inarguable. Virginia currently is 5–5 and hasn’t had a winning record since 2019. Virginia Tech also is 5–5, with a 34–37 record since ’19. If those schools had done a better job evaluating and recruiting their home state than Cignetti did at JMU, imagine how different things might look.
Cignetti, like his JMU transfers, arrived in Bloomington with a smoldering desire to prove himself. He was 62 years old and had won a ton of games at lower levels without getting a shot at a power-conference job. He got to the top late.
“I’ve always had a little bit of a chip on my shoulder,” Cignetti says. “Like the JMU guys who were wondering, ‘Why didn’t I get recruited by Virginia or Virginia Tech?’ You take that and there’s something about a championship culture, too, that brings out the best in people, versus maybe a place that’s struggling and guys aren’t around the best role models.”
Cignetti brought his role models with him, facilitating a quick overhaul. The mass exodus from Harrisonburg is a bit of a touchy subject at JMU, although the 8–2 Dukes have survived quite well under new coach Bob Chesney. But the players say Cignetti and his staff let them make their own decisions on whether to make the move to Indiana.
“It was kind of like the elephant in the room,” Horton says. “We all knew that we have the chance to prove something again and follow him over there. So we all kind of knew that once we get one person to go, that ball’s going to start rolling and that’s kind of what happened. And here we are now.”
Five JMU players visited Indiana together in December. James Madison has good G5 facilities and support staff, but not Big Ten facilities and staffing. That resonated.
“The resources here are different,” says running back Ty Son Lawton, Indiana’s No. 2 rusher and a seventh-year player who began his career at FCS program Stony Brook. “I’m not used to this kind of stuff.”
Fisher is believed to be the first JMU transfer to commit, starting the migration. By the national letter-of-intent signing period, Cignetti had secured enough transfer talent to utter his now-famous line, “Google me. I win.”
“In my heart, I knew we had flipped this roster,” he says.
Then his Dukes of Hoosierland flipped the locker room. A lot of players from the Tom Allen era didn’t stick around, but those who did were ready for a change. They embraced their new teammates, who gave them a crash course in the Cignetti Way.
“It was awesome,” Fisher says. “Not what we expected at all really. You come into the team meeting, and I’m thinking these guys are like, All right, new coach brought his own players. They’re going to act a certain way, we’re not going to take them in.
“So we got here and the first thing they’re like, ‘You guys want to go get dinner? You guys want to hang out?’ And they kind of caught me off guard how welcoming everybody was.”
Spring practice had its ups and downs, but Rourke says the team started to coalesce during summer workouts. Armed with a user-friendly schedule—which has become a source of College Football Playoff contention—a team full of winners was ready to win.
With confidence snowballing and wins piling up, Indiana has kept it going amid mounting hype and pressure. Now comes the ultimate proving ground—a playoff-caliber showdown with the blueblood Ohio State Buckeyes in their massive stadium. The Buckeyes are 30–0–1 against the Hoosiers since 1968 and are favored by two touchdowns Saturday.
College football has a perverse habit of eating its own feel-good stories. Embracing the underdog turns into deconstructing the underdog. The hater culture is strong in the sport, and Indiana is the subject of that now—the Hoosiers haven’t beaten anyone, the refrain goes, and will be exposed Saturday.
“We love it,” Fisher says. “We hear it every game. That team isn’t that good anyway. And we’ll go and blow somebody else out and they’re like, Oh, that was a fluke. I’m excited to hear what they say after the next one and see if they think [the Buckeyes] are nobodies as well. So I’m looking forward to it.”
What Indiana has done—and who has done it—to this point is one of the most unique accomplishments in college football history. It’s the biggest underdog story in the Big Ten since Northwestern rose up from decades of futility to win the league in 1995 and reach the Rose Bowl. But even that was a slow-build miracle—Gary Barnett was in his fourth season as coach. Transfer rules have clearly helped accelerate the timetable, but what Cignetti has done in a single year is without precedent.
For a bunch of JMU transfers who started their careers playing FCS football, then in the Sun Belt, running into the Horseshoe on Saturday will be the moment of their athletic lifetimes to date.
“Growing up, watching all these games, all these incredible players there, and getting the chance to play there in this type of game is pretty surreal,” says Carpenter, who walked on at JMU. “It’s a dream come true.”
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Joey Galloway doubled down on Indiana-Kurtis Rourke take, despite pushback from Rece Davis
On Tuesday’s ESPN CFP Rankings Show, ESPN college football analyst Joey Galloway shocked the entire cast when he suggested that Indiana head coach Curt Cignetti should sit out starting quarterback Kurtis Rourke for the Hoosiers’ biggest game of the season Saturday against Ohio State. Just a day later, Galloway got a chance to explain his rationale for this opinion, and he doubled down on the comment.
Galloway’s suggestion for Indiana to bench Rourke for the game, which he said was largely made while considering the injury to Florida State quarterback Jordan Travis last year, drew instant criticism from the remainder of the cast, with Booger McFarland and Greg McElroy immediately pushing back against him.
On Wednesday, Galloway got a chance to defend his take when he joined Rece Davis on the College GameDay Podcast. Davis started off the podcast episode by affirming his respect and friendship with Galloway before wholeheartedly disagreeing with his opinion.
“Joey, I’m having you on for a number of reasons. One, I have high regard for your talent. I consider us friends, I hope you feel the same way. You do such a tremendous job. You are astute in the ways of the (CFP) committee. You understand the complexities. You understand that it’s not a monolithic body. They have to come out with one answer, but there are differing opinions in the room.
“But the other reason you are on here is you said some things on the show last night that… Knowing you as I do, I almost felt like you were lobbing a smoke bomb into the midst of the crowd just to stir things up. Almost being facetious to make a point.
“Because what you said… You correct me if I’m wrong. If you were Indiana and the playoff predictor says that you have a 96 percent chance of making the playoff even if you lose to Ohio State. And the one thing you couldn’t have happen would be lose your quarterback, that you would sit Kurtis Rourke against Ohio State.
“I can’t wrap my head around this at all… As in you actually believing this is something they should do. Why would you say this is something Indiana should do?”
Galloway then replied, doubling down on his take that Indiana should sit Rourke because he believes that Indiana would be in the CFP even despite a loss to Ohio State, but wouldn’t if Rourke goes down with an injury.
“Let me give you a little history, Rece,” said Galloway. “Because I have evolved. I was the guy that would argue when guys would sit out their bowl games. I was the guy that was like, I can’t believe they would do that.
“I’ve evolved now after watching what happened to Florida State last year with Jordan Travis. A team that was absolutely about to be in the playoff. There was no doubt they were in. Their quarterback gets hurt and now they are out of the playoff.
“I’m being 100 percent serious. If I am Indiana, I am considering not playing Kurtis Rourke. Now, I don’t have to make that decision. So it’s much easier from behind a desk to say ‘Don’t do it.’ I still feel that if you do play him, I would put him in a glass bottle and roll him out there.”
Galloway then went on to pose Davis a hypothetical question on whether he would rather beat Ohio State or make it into the College Football Playoff.
Davis replied like the majority of college football fans would, saying that a win over Ohio State all but ensures that Indiana would be in the playoff regardless of what happens the rest of the season.
“Beating Ohio State,” said Davis. “Because you go to the playoff if you do that. I respect your right to say this and I understand where you are coming from. But a couple of things as it pertains to this particular playoff and this particular team.
“Nobody in the history of the sport has lost more games than Indiana. Indiana is in a position right now to win the Big Ten. And if you put your quarterback on the shelf, you are saying you don’t really belong. We’re trying to sneak in the back door. And there is no way that Curt Cignetti is doing that, nor should he.”
Davis really hit the nail on the head in his reply to Galloway’s hypothetical question.
By benching Rourke, you are essentially saying that you feel like you are safe to make the CFP regardless of putting your best effort forward for the remainder of the season, which is obviously a terrible look to the committee.
Not only that, but you can’t assume that some freak injury is going to happen. That could happen at any given time in practice to any player.
Galloway doesn’t seem to realize the kind of statement a potential win over Ohio State would mean for Indiana. Not only to the CFP Committee, but to the remainder of the contending teams in college football.
Regardless, Galloway is sticking to his guns despite all of the criticism online and the pushback from Davis here. And that’s at least admirable, albeit quite unpopular.
[ESPN College Football on YouTube]
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