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Saoirse Ronan says her experience as a child actor continues to shape her work

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Saoirse Ronan plays a woman struggling with addiction in The Outrun.

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The entertainment industry is notorious for its mistreatment of child actors, but Saoirse Ronan says that wasn’t her experience. Maybe it was because her father was an actor, and her mother was there to protect her. Ronan says: “My mom and my dad always made me feel like, at its core, this should be fun. And as soon as it stops being fun, don’t do it anymore.”

Nominated for her first Oscar at just 13 for the 2007 film Atonement, the Irish actor says she was also “very lucky” to work with a string of supportive filmmakers when she was younger — including Peter Jackson, Peter Weir and Amy Heckerling.

“It was such an incredible environment to grow up in, where youth and innocence is sort of encouraged, in a way, and play is never forgotten about,” she says. “That’s really shaped who I am as an actor now.”

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Ronan is currently starring in two films, Blitz and The Outrun. In the former, she plays a mother living in London with her young son and elderly father during the German bombing campaigns of World War II.

“Honoring the mother-child relationship was just something that I couldn’t really pass up,” Ronan says of Blitz. “I’m incredibly close to my own mother and we’ve spent a lot of time together where it was just me and her, so that dynamic is something that I’ve always wanted to bring to life on screen.”

The Outrun is based on the bestselling memoir by Amy Liptrot. Ronan plays Rona, a young woman whose life is derailed because of her addiction to alcohol. Rona makes several efforts to get sober before moving back to Orkney, Scotland, to help her father tend to his farm. In one scene, which Ronan describes as “the most insane experience I’ve ever had on film,” the character assists in the birth of a baby lamb.

“The really interesting and really humbling thing about it was that sheep don’t stick to a schedule,” Ronan says of the birthing scene. “And so we had to bend our shooting schedule to nature. I would get ready at, like, 4:00 a.m. We’d go into the shed and we would just wait and the camera would be ready to go.”

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On reading Amy Liptrot’s memoir The Outrun

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I think it was the first time that I had been exposed to an addiction story that didn’t feel like it was all doom and gloom. And it allowed me to get to know the whole person. Amy Liptrot wasn’t defining herself by her addiction to alcohol, but was acknowledging that it played a huge part in her life and the destruction of her life for a long time. I was really drawn to the fact that we would follow a young woman as she struggles with alcoholism. I think that usually when you think of that as a story, you would imagine probably a man, middle-aged, or a woman who’s going through a divorce or she’s lost her family or there’s a domestic sort of element to it. And the fact that we were going to follow someone who, as bad as it sounds on paper, “shouldn’t” have this addiction and yet does, just reminds us of how this is something that can affect everyone.

On tackling the subject of addiction 

It is a particular topic that is very personal to me. It’s an addiction that I haven’t struggled with myself, but I’ve watched people very close to me struggle with it. And some of them have seen the light eventually and others have not — and that’s incredibly painful. And I think as someone on the receiving end of that, there’s a lot of anger and resentment that is born out of that experience because you’re not going through it yourself. You don’t understand or I certainly didn’t understand, really, how addiction works. … Unless you actually sit down to examine the effect that a substance is having on your brain, you don’t really take the time to unpick it because you’re so hurt by it and you’re so hurt that it has been chosen over you. So I think I spent a lot of my life carrying that around with me. But it was scary. … It just brought up a lot of pain for me, I suppose.

Saoirse Ronan plays a mother during World War II London in Blitz.

Saoirse Ronan plays a mother during World War II London in Blitz.

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On Steve McQueen’s WWII film, Blitz

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I, of course, knew that it was going to be a sort of fresh take on a World War II British epic, but I didn’t know exactly how. And so when he started to explain to me that it would follow a mixed-race little boy … and that it would really focus on the people left behind, essentially the ones who had to keep society going, which was the women, children and older folk, it just piqued my interest straight away.

On her memorable first time on a movie set as a young child  

It was some film about the Troubles, of course, and there were lots of explosions. And we definitely went through a phase of that in Ireland. … I think that’s where I got my sort of mild tinnitus from. I still have a ringing in my ears and I think it’s from this. There was an explosion that happened … that they hadn’t prepared anyone for, and Dad ran for me and put his hands over my ears to protect them from this massive explosion that had gone off. And he always said, “I just don’t know if I got to you time,” because I’ve got a ringing in my ears right now, even as we speak to you. And he’s got really bad tinnitus because of it. So that’s my first memory of being on a film set. And I remember even though I was young, I was 5 or something. And even then I remember loving the atmosphere of the film. So I just loved how cool everyone was and how much fun everyone seemed to be having.

On feeling out of place both in the U.S. and in Ireland

I was born in the Bronx. I was there till I was 3. I always sounded Irish. I was only really surrounded by Irish people when I was there anyway. And then with two Dublin parents, I moved to the countryside and so still didn’t really fit in and was reminded of that quite a bit. And so I never really felt like I fully belonged anywhere — and I still don’t really. I think there’s parts of me that belong in different places. And I suppose the older I’ve gotten and the more people who have become a part of my bubble, they are my home. My partner is my home … and so it’s not site-specific. … What’s really great about being on the road from so young is that you can create a home for yourself anywhere. And you know what you need to feel safe and to feel and comforted. I think any actor, any filmmaker, any musician, I’m sure they become experts in setting up camp anywhere, really.

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On working with filmmaker Greta Gerwig on Lady Bird and Little Women

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Put simply, what I love and admire most about Greta is that she loves actors. She is not afraid of actors. She’s not intimidated by them. She knows how to handle them. She gives them support and structure, but also allows them to just play and be free. And it’s quite incredible how many directors can’t seem to do that. She enjoys being on set so much. She’s such a positive influence on all of us. And she has the most impeccable taste. And that girl will never stop working to make something better. She pays attention to every little detail without it feeling clinical. She actually put a line into Lady Bird where I think the nun in the movie says that the greatest form of love is to pay attention. … It’s the most beautiful line. And that is what Greta does. She pays attention. I’ve never met someone who is more genuinely interested by human nature and people, and I’ve never worked with anyone like her. And she always makes me better.

Lauren Krenzel and Anna Bauman produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Beth Novey adapted it for the web.

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The Drama is a dark and twisty comedy starring Zendaya and Robert Pattinson as a storybook couple preparing for their upcoming wedding. But just days before the big day, she reveals a horrifying truth about her past self that threatens to undo their nuptials, and their bond. In this spoiler-packed episode, we’re getting into that reveal, and all the surprising drama of the movie.

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At Catch One, a funk concert transports you to 1974 — and it’s immersive theater at its finest

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At Catch One, a funk concert transports you to 1974 — and it’s immersive theater at its finest

The man I’m talking to tells me he has no name.

“Hey” is what he responds to, and he says he can be best described as a “travel agent,” a designation said with a sly smile to clearly indicate it’s code for something more illicit.

About eight of us are crammed with him into a tiny area tucked in the corner of a nightclub. Normally, perhaps, this is a make-up room, but tonight it’s a hideaway where he’ll feed us psychedelics (they’re just mints) to escape the brutalities of the world. It’s also loud, as the sounds of a rambunctious funk band next door work to penetrate the space.

Celeste Butler Clayton as Ursa Major and Ari Herstand as Copper Jones lead a group of theater attendees in a pre-show ritual.

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”Close your eyes,” I’m told. I let the mint begin to melt while trying to pretend it’s a gateway to a dream state. The more that mint peddler talks, the more it becomes clear he’s suffering from PTSD from his days in Vietnam. But the mood isn’t somber. We don’t need any make-believe substances to catch his drift, particularly his belief that, even if music may not change the world, at least it can provide some much-needed comfort from it.

“Brassroots District: LA ’74” is part concert, part participatory theater and part experiment, attempting to intermix an evening of dancing and jubilation with high-stakes drama. How it plays out is up to each audience member. Follow the cast, and uncover war tales and visions of how the underground music scene became a refuge for the LGBTQ+ community. Watch the band, and witness a concert almost torn apart as a group on the verge of releasing its debut album weighs community versus cold commerce. Or ignore it all to play dress-up and get a groove on to the music that never stops.

A soul train style dance exhibition.

Audience members are encouraged to partake in a “Soul Train”-style dance exhibition.

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Now running at Catch One, “Brassroots District” aims to concoct a fantasy vision of 1974, but creators Ari Herstand and Andrew Leib aren’t after pure nostalgia. The fictional band at the heart of the show, for instance, is clearly a nod to Sly and the Family Stone, a group whose musical vision of unity and perseverance through social upheaval still feels ahead of its time. “Brassroots District” also directly taps into the history of Catch One, with a character modeled after the club’s pioneering founder Jewel Thais-Williams, a vital figure on the L.A. music scene who envisioned a sanctuary for Black queer women and men as well as trans, gay and musically adventurous revelers.

“This is the era of Watergate and Nixon and a corrupt president,” Herstand says, noting that the year of 1974 was chosen intentionally. “There’s very clear political parallels from the early ‘70s to 2026. We don’t want to smack anyone in the face over it, but we want to ask the questions about where we’ve come from.”

This isn’t the first time a version of “Brassroots District” has been staged. Herstand, a musician and author, and Leib, an artist manager, have been honing the concept for a decade. It began as an idea that came to Herstand while he spent time staying with extended family in New Orleans to work on his book, “How to Make it in the New Music Business.” And it initially started as just a band, and perhaps a way to create an excitement around a new group.

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Ari Herstand as musician Copper Jones in an intimate moment with the audience.

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A scene during Brassroots.

Celeste Butler Clayton (Ursa Major), from left, Ari Herstand (Copper Jones), Bryan Daniel Porter (Donny) and Marqell Edward Clayton (Gil) in a tense moment.

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Yet as the pair became smitten with immersive theater — a term that typically implies some form of active involvement on the part of the audience, most often via interacting and improvising with actors — Brassroots District the band gradually became “Brassroots District” the show. Like many in the space, Herstand credits the long-running New York production “Sleep No More” with hipping him to the scene.

“It’s really about an alternative experience to a traditional proscenium show, giving the audience autonomy to explore,” Herstand says.

Eleven actors perform in the show, directed by DeMone Seraphin and written with input from L.A. immersive veterans Chris Porter (the Speakeasy Society) and Lauren Ludwig (Capital W). I interacted with only a handful of them, but “Brassroots District” builds to a participatory finale that aims to get the whole audience moving when the band jumps into the crowd for a group dance. The night is one of wish fulfillment for music fans, offering the promise of behind-the-stage action as well as an idealized vision of funk’s communal power.

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Working in the favor of “Brassroots District” is that, ultimately, it is a concert. Brassroots District, the group, released its debut “Welcome to the Brassroots District” at the top of this year, and audience members who may not want to hunt down or chase actors can lean back and watch the show, likely still picking up on its broad storyline of a band weighing a new recording contract with a potentially sleazy record executive. Yet Herstand and Leib estimate that about half of those in attendance want to dig a little deeper.

At the show’s opening weekend this past Saturday, I may even wager it was higher than that. When a mid-concert split happens that forces the band’s two co-leaders — Herstand as Copper Jones and Celeste Butler Clayton as Ursa Major — to bolt from the stage, the audience immediately knew to follow them into the other room, even as the backing band played on. Leib, borrowing a term from the video game world, describes these as “side quests,” moments in which the audience can better get to know the performers, the club owner and the act’s manager.

A woman interacts with audience members.

“Brassroots District: LA ‘74” is wish fulfillment for music fans, providing, for instance, backstage-like access to artists. Here, Celeste Butler Clayton performs as musician Ursa Major and is surrounded by ticket-goers.

(Gabriella Angotti-Jones / For The Times)

An audience member's costume.

An audience member’s costume.

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Yet those who stay in the main stage will still get some show moments, as here is where a journalist will confront a record executive. Both will linger around the floor and chat with willing guests, perhaps even offering them a business card with a number to call after the show to further the storyline beyond the confines of the club. If all goes according to plan, the audience will start to feel like performers. In fact, the central drama of “Brassroots District” is often kicked off by an attendee finding some purposely left-behind props that allude to the group’s record label drama. Actors, say Herstand, will “loosely guide” players to the right spot, if need be.

“The point is,” says Leib, “that you as an audience member are also kind of putting on a character. You can stir the spot.” And with much of the crowd in their ‘70s best and smartphones strictly forbidden — they are placed in bags prior to the show beginning — you may need a moment to figure out who the actors are, but a microphone usually gives it away.

“They’re a heightened version of themselves,” Herstand says of the audience’s penchant to come in costumes to “Brassroots District,” although it is not necessary.

“Brassroots District,” which is about two hours in length, is currently slated to run through the end of March, but Herstand and Leib hope it becomes a long-running performance. Previous iterations with different storylines ran outdoors, as it was first staged in the months following the worst days of the pandemic. Inside, at places such as Catch One, was always the goal, the pair say, and the two leaned into the venue’s history.

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“Brassroots District: LA ’74”

“It’s in the bones of the building that this was a respite for queer men and the Black community,” Leib says. “There’s a bit of like, this is a safe space to be yourself. We’re baking in some of these themes in the show. It’s resistance through art and music.”

Such a message comes through in song. One of the band’s central tunes is “Together,” an allusion to Sly and the Family Stone’s “Everyday People.” It’s a light-stepping number built around finger snaps and the vision of a better world.

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“We are stronger when we unite,” Herstand says. “That is the hook of the song, and what we’re really trying to do is bring people together. That is how we feel we actually can change society.”

And on this night, that’s exactly what progress looks like — an exuberant party that extends a hand for everyone to dance with a neighbor.

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Hollywood studios reach a tentative agreement with writers union

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The Writers Guild of America West building in Los Angeles on May 2, 2023.

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After less than a month of negotiations, the Writers Guild of America and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers announced their first steps toward a deal on Saturday.

“Today the WGA Negotiating Committee unanimously approved a four-year tentative agreement with the AMPTP for the 2026 Minimum Basic Agreement (MBA),” the union posted on its website. “Crucially, it protects our health plan and puts it on a sustainable path, with increased company contributions across many areas and long-needed increases to health contribution caps. The new contract also builds on gains from 2023 and helps address free work challenges.”

In 2023, the WGA went on a strike that lasted an entire summer and cramped production schedules for months.

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The AMPTP said in its announcement that it looks forward to “building on this progress as we continue working toward agreements that support long-term industry stability.”

Word of the agreement arrived a few weeks before the expiration of the union’s current contract on May 1.

It also comes amid an ongoing dispute between the Writers Guild of America West and its own staff union. The staff union includes workers in fields such as legal and communications. Dozens of them in Los Angeles went on an independent strike in mid-February. The employees allege WGA West management was engaging in unfair labor practices, union-busting activities and bad faith bargaining. In a social media post last week, the staff union said striking members had lost health insurance coverage. NPR has reached out to the WGA for comment on the internal strike. The WGA canceled its annual West Coast award show in March as a result of the staff union strike.

The new four year contract between the WGA and Hollywood studios is expected to contain new rules around the use of artificial intelligence, such as licensing for AI training. According to a social media post from entertainment industry journalist Matthew Belloni, it will also include pension increases and extra compensation for streaming video on demand. The proposed deal, which is a year longer than the usual agreements between the union and studios, was greeted with relief online by a number of writers, performers and producers.

The AMPTP is currently hashing out a new set of agreements with unions that represent screen actors and directors.

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The new writers’ contract still requires ratification by union members, which could come later this month, the WGA said.

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