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In Oklahoma, Counting Migrant Students May Have Gone Too Far
Oklahoma’s conservative Republican governor, Kevin Stitt, and its conservative Republican schools superintendent have appeared to stand shoulder-to-shoulder in the years of Donald J. Trump, with the former sending Oklahoma guardsmen to the southern border and the latter stocking the state’s schools with Trump-branded Bibles.
But when the superintendent, Ryan Walters, proposed finding the undocumented students in Oklahoma’s schools, Mr. Stitt said enough is enough.
“When I saw them picking on kids, I thought that’s a step too far,” Mr. Stitt said in a recent interview in his office in the State Capitol.
In an era of anything-goes politics on the nation’s right, the fight in Oklahoma may suggest there is an outer limit to what is acceptable, even for conservatives. Or it could offer a preview of the next frontier in the nation’s battle over immigration.
“It’s incredibly unfortunate that the governor has decided to undermine President Trump’s immigration agenda and take these type of swipes at him,” Mr. Walters said. “He’s attacking President Trump.”
It began when Mr. Walters, the state’s elected superintendent of schools, proposed new rules that would require Oklahoma public schools to collect citizenship information from students. The proposed rules were approved by the state school board in January, and they are now being considered by the Oklahoma Legislature.
But Mr. Stitt, no softy on immigration, lashed out immediately. He soon named replacements to the school board, whose members are appointed by the governor, so he could better resist proposals from the schools chief.
Mr. Stitt has been a strong proponent of border security, sending troops to help patrol the Texas border and lining up to support Mr. Trump’s deportation efforts. But in going after school children, Mr. Stitt said that Mr. Walters — a former high school history teacher who was once a protégé of the governor — crossed a line.
“I’ve never heard Trump talk about, ‘Hey, we’re going to go after kids,’” Mr. Stitt said.
Mr. Stitt, who is in his final term as governor, said he had spoken with Mr. Walters and tried to talk him out of it. “You’re just trying to make a political statement, trying to get your name in the paper,” Mr. Stitt said he told him. “That’s why people hate politicians.”
Mr. Walters, who has been mentioned as a potential candidate for governor next year, has not wavered.
In his office in the state education building, he argued in an interview that his approach closely aligned with the thrust of Mr. Trump’s policies, such as ending automatic citizenship for nearly every person born on U.S. soil and allowing federal immigration agents to enter schools. An attack on the citizenship proposal, he said, was akin to an attack on the president.
Mr. Walters’s goals seem contradictory. Gathering data on the number of migrant students in Oklahoma schools would help provide language services, he said. But he also said he wants to better calculate the cost of undocumented students to state taxpayers.
“My concern are the taxpayers, the citizens of the country and of Oklahoma,” he said. “Those are the people that are here legally, that voted in the elections, that need to be protected.”
His office estimated around 5,000 migrant students attend state public schools, at a cost of about $200 million a year.
Bills in several state legislatures, including in Texas and New Jersey, echo Mr. Walters’s efforts, as they seek to allow schools to collect tuition from migrant students.
Such legislation, which would probably be challenged in court, appeared to be aimed at challenging the core of a 1982 U.S. Supreme Court decision that said states could not prevent undocumented children from attending public schools. That ruling has been a target of some Republicans in recent years, particularly as the balance of power on the Supreme Court has shifted in favor of conservatives.
Mr. Walters said he favored overturning the precedent. Mr. Stitt said he did not.
Jackson Lahmeyer, a pastor in Tulsa, Okla., and member of Mr. Trump’s newly created White House Faith Office, said he liked both the governor and the school superintendent, but sided with Mr. Walters on collecting citizenship data.
“This is the agenda of the president who won,” said Mr. Lahmeyer, whose church has attracted members of Mr. Trump’s family and administration. “We need to know if students are U.S. citizens or if they’re not.”
The governor said he did not object to enforcing immigration law but worried that undocumented parents would potentially keep their children home, rather than be forced to disclose their immigration status.
“The kids didn’t do anything wrong, is my point,” he said.
Mr. Stitt, a mortgage company entrepreneur who was first elected in 2018, suggested a better solution involved fixing the immigration system — an idea that hearkened back to the pre-Trump Republican Party of George W. Bush — so that companies who want to sponsor foreign workers could legally do so more easily.
The Oklahoma citizenship proposal must still be considered by the Legislature before the governor has a chance to formally block it.
Privately, Republicans in the Legislature have chafed at the measure, said Tyler Powell, a Republican political consultant in Oklahoma. Publicly, they have mostly avoided the fray. The leaders of the State House and Senate did not respond to requests for comment.
Mr. Powell said the rightward shift in Republican primaries in 2024 has many were worried about angering Mr. Walters, who is popular with the state’s core Republican base.
“Everyone has a little bit of a fear of Walters,” he said. “Behind the scenes they have ensured that Walters’s policies don’t go through, but they don’t want to come out and walk a plank with their voters.”
Mr. Walters has gained attention nationally for his efforts to introduce religious and Trump-branded conservative instruction into public schools, garnering praise from religious conservatives and those strongly aligned with Mr. Trump. He has moved to purchase Bibles for public schools, to create of a religious charter school and to alter state curriculum to teach the “discrepancies” in the 2020 election, among other things.
“My opinion is Walters needs to stop trying to gain the attention of the president and do his job,” said Mark McBride, a former Republican member of the Oklahoma State House worked on education issues. “I hope that Governor Stitt will continue to push back on the superintendent.”
Mr. Stitt stepped in to replace three members of the State Board of Education in February with new members who would be aligned with him. He said in the interview that he would soon be adding a fourth to fill an empty position, giving him a majority on the board.
Kendra Wesson, an education activist, was one of the board members who voted for the citizenship proposal and was replaced by Mr. Stitt. She said the actual text of the rule — which involved the collection of aggregate data — had been misconstrued by proponents.
“There’s nothing in the rule about going after kids,” she said, adding that it was about helping schools and teachers educate students who arrived speaking different languages. “I feel it is so important to get resources out to them.”
Ms. Wesson said that when the governor called her to tell her he would be replacing her on the board, he offered her a seat on another board. But, she said, it came with an “ultimatum to publicly disavow Ryan Walters.”
A spokeswoman for the governor said Ms. Wesson was never asked to disavow Mr. Walters. Nonetheless, she now serves on an education advisory committee — one that Mr. Walters started.
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How a Recent College Graduate Lives on $18 Per Hour in the East Bronx
How can people possibly afford to live in one of the most expensive cities on the planet? It’s a question New Yorkers hear a lot, often delivered with a mix of awe, pity and confusion.
We surveyed hundreds of New Yorkers about how they spend, splurge and save. We found that many people — rich, poor or somewhere in between — live life as a series of small calculations that add up to one big question: What makes living in New York worth it?
Jaden Baldeon is a recent college graduate who is trying to carve a life out for himself while making sure his family has a good one, too. And at 20 years old, he is one of the newest entrants to the city’s work force who is feeling its high prices most acutely.
He lives at home with his mother and two siblings in a two-bedroom apartment in the East Bronx. He makes $18 per hour working part-time at a swimming school and makes roughly $550 biweekly, contributing about half of that each month to household expenses.
Now that classes are over, the weather is warming and more people are heading to the pool, he plans to increase his hours to full-time, from 30 to more than 40 hours. He hopes to do so to keep his family members from feeling the worst of the cash crunch.
“As soon as I hit 18, a lot of the adult responsibilities have come into play,” he said, adding that he and his mother have had a lot of conversations about budgeting and spending.
As the son of immigrants from the Dominican Republic and El Salvador, Mr. Baldeon said he feels the pressure to succeed, especially because many of his relatives worked full-time by the time they were his age.
He added that he feels he is “breaking barriers” by earning his associate of liberal arts degree. He received the degree in May from Seton College at the University of Mount Saint Vincent, which offers a debt-free two-year degree and provides students with financial literacy education, access to free meals and a laptop. He is considering returning to the university in the fall to continue studies for his undergraduate degree.
His college experience and home life have taught him the real value of a dollar — and helped him find new ways to save for the life he wants.
“You don’t want to live and just be surviving. You want to have nice things,” he said. “That’s what it’s been: balancing both of those things and trying to help out here and there.”
A Tight Schedule
Maintaining a strict daily regimen has helped Mr. Baldeon budget and track his spending. For most of the final months of the spring semester, he planned out his daily schedule to determine whether he would use public transportation from his home in the Bronx to classes on campus in Riverdale, which costs roughly $6 round trip, or take his university’s free shuttle.
On the weekends, he works part-time at the Goldfish Swim School in New Rochelle, where he earns about $18 an hour doing tech support, membership management and front desk check-ins. He commutes to work using Metro-North, which costs roughly $7.00 per round-trip ticket. (He keeps an eye out for the less expensive off-peak tickets, too.)
But even his best-laid plans come against the realities of commuting in the city.
“Transportation is kind of a gamble,” he said, noting the occasional schedule delays and lack of available seating. “So sometimes I just have to opt for an emergency cab.”
When he returns home from classes late at night or if he works a late shift, he sometimes chooses a ride-share service and has an Uber One membership to help secure a lower price for cars, which can cost $40 or more during rush hour. If a ride home is more expensive, he uses local car service alternatives in his neighborhood that are discounted and allow cash payments.
A Model Saver
Living at home has helped Mr. Baldeon save on housing while in college and take some of the financial strain off his mother. He said that he contributes most often to household goods and regularly uses coupons to get them at even more of a discount.
He most often buys paper goods and also helps buy groceries, which gives his family more of a financial cushion to enjoy better-quality items and opt more often for fresh produce over canned or frozen. Recently, he started buying laundry detergent in bulk from local vendors rather than directly from the store, allowing his family to save around $10 dollars and get a larger supply.
Student discounts help, too: Mr. Baldeon recently opened a student Discover card to build credit and used the card to buy a special mop for the floors in his home. His student email address has helped him get discounts on audiobooks, music and other perks.
“I just try to save anytime I can, in all transparency,” he said.
Saving is becoming a family affair. His younger sister, who is in middle school, landed a position with the city’s Summer Youth Employment Program, marking her first job. His younger brother, in high school, is looking for a summer job. It’s unlikely that much of their earnings will go toward the household expenses, though. Mr. Baldeon said he hopes his siblings will use their first paychecks to learn about financial responsibility and pay for things themselves over the summer — something he did when he got one of his first jobs through the program.
“It was a very good feeling to have some money of my own,” he said. “It was definitely quality of life for me, too, so that’s what I want to stress to them as well.”
Eyes on the Future
Living at home, working more hours and delaying a return to college has helped Mr. Baldeon put money aside for what could be his biggest future expense: a car.
Four more wheels, he said, will make his commute to work much easier and give his mother and siblings more time to run errands during the week. His dream model? A Subaru WRX Impreza.
“It could be used, older, I don’t care,” he said. “As long as it’s that one.”
Mr. Baldeon was born and raised in New York and loves it as his home. But after he moves out of his mother’s house, he said he probably won’t stay in the city much longer. He is considering going upstate to Rochester, where he has family, or a more rural place where his dollar can stretch a little further to allow him to build a home for himself.
“I want something of my own for sure,” he said. “So I want to get out of the city.”
We are talking to New Yorkers about how they spend, splurge and save.
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“So —” “I’m going to the University of Oregon.” “Colorado School of Mines.” “Syracuse University.” “C.S.U.—L.A.” “I wanted to be like a medical student. I realize now that I want to become an electrician.” There used to be straightforward messaging about how to achieve success in America. “Go to school, go to college, get a degree, make money.” But times have changed. Student debt has skyrocketed. Jobs are hard to find, and now A.I. is threatening to upend the economy. “Like you can barely find jobs nowadays.” “I’ve heard a lot about coders — how A.I. just completely eliminated them.” “It feels as though the economy is like just continuously moving against us.” “I don’t think there’s a perfect American dream anymore. I think, honestly.” In California, the world’s A.I. capital, the state is keenly aware that students are looking for new options. “No one cares how much you know because ChatGPT knows more.” It’s part of a nationwide conversation happening in government, at schools and increasingly on the internet. “Why the hell would you go to college? Like, seriously.” “There’s so many people with multiple degrees that are broke.” “I became a millionaire from construction like a year and a half ago.” “I would see all these people saying, ‘I dropped out of high school, I dropped out of college, and I’m a millionaire.’ And I was like, ‘I need to learn how to do that.’” California is pouring money into hands-on trade programs in public schools. There’s a construction labor shortage in the state, and in 2021, the state doubled a grant for classes like this to help solve it. “Yeah — hit it like it owes you money. So start it off steep so you can swing your hammer back. State of California educational system has seen that if students are not going to go to a four-year college. They should have an option. I would say over 95 percent of my students, maybe even higher, have never used any tools before in their life. And I would say almost 100 percent had never used a power tool. Ta da — see, you know how to do it. “No, I had no idea this class existed. I didn’t even really consider construction seriously until I took this class.” “I actually did consider, oh, maybe I should go to trade school. Or maybe I should focus less on aero-engineering as a degree.” “A.I. is not going to build a home. A.I. isn’t going to weld anything either.” “We had somebody come and talk to our class about electricians and can still make $200,000 a year.” More students across the country are choosing to go to trade school — but working with your hands still comes with a stigma, and the college path still holds a lot of power. “Yeah — yeah. Almost 100 percent.” “I think a lot of people, especially older generations, still believe that trades are like dirty.” “I have students who are very good carpenters, and their parents still want them to go to college, and I totally respect that.” “I come from an immigrant family, and so pressure has been even more heavy. They’re supportive. They’re just a little disappointed that I’m not going to college.” “They don’t want their sons or daughters to go into the trades. They think it is less than. And I try to have this conversation with them and say the trades are a good place to go to make a living. There you go.” But for this generation of Bay Area kids, who grew up in the pandemic and are seeing major changes in the tech industry, the overall feeling is that no path is safe. “As you can see, we just built these little kitchen tiles and to me they look great. If you make a wrong decision, that could lead you into a debt spiral and you’re just kind of stuck.” “I don’t have any friends that are really wanting to go into the tech industry at all because of A.I.” “You’re paying $400,000 and then what are you going to get from it?” “Like, am I going to be able to make all this back when I get a job?” “And we have a storage cabinet in here. This generation, especially, you really have to think about what you’re going to do. Because if your plan is not future-proof, the world is going to eat you. It’s so small, but it’s a pretty cozy little home.”
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