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Glenn Youngkin spars with Texas journalist over education in front of rowdy liberal audience

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AUSTIN, Texas – Republican Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin faced a hostile liberal crowd as he sparred with a local journalist over his education agenda at the 2024 Texas Tribune Festival. 

Youngkin, who famously won his 2021 gubernatorial race on the issue of education, was the closing keynote speaker at the annual political conference and was grilled in an interview Saturday night with Texas Tribune co-founder Evan Smith. 

“So let me put myself in the frame of mind of an educator… Don’t you trust educators to do their jobs?” Smith asked. “If educators believe that books should be on a syllabus or part of a course, haven’t we, for years, trusted our educators to make decisions that were good enough to educate us? Why would they not be good enough to educate our kids?”

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“Because there were books that were put on the curriculum for classes that families – and remember, Virginia is an incredibly diverse state,” Youngkin responded. “We have a large Muslim population, a large Jewish population, a large Hindu population, a large Hispanic population, a large Black population. I mean, we are an incredibly diverse state, and there are materials that were on the curriculum that really were inconsistent with a family’s personal values. And therefore, this bill was put in front of Gov. McAuliffe at the time – passed unanimously out of our Senate. I mean, unanimous… it was transparency and an opt-out for a replacement, and he vetoed it.” 

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“And that was at the heart of this question, which is who should be making this decision? And I firmly believe that parents should first have full transparency in what’s being taught in school. And second of all, if there is something that is completely counter with their family values, they should be able to request a replacement piece to the curriculum,” Youngkin continued.

Texas Tribune co-founder Evan Smith grilled Republican Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin on his education agenda at the 2024 Texas Tribune Festival on Sept. 7, 2024. (Joseph A. Wulfsohn/Fox News Digital)

Smith then told Youngkin that he now has a “reputation” of being “the governor who bans books,” citing an Axios report alleging that “nearly 400 book titles were targeted for bans in Virginia libraries last year.”

“First of all, the idea of common sense being attributed to a family so they can make a decision about whether their child is reading a book that’s consistent with their family values is something when we explain this, everybody says yes. It doesn’t fit with the progressive narrative. And so what they call that is ‘book banning’ because it doesn’t fit with the narrative,” Youngkin told Smith. 

“Is that what Axios is referring to? There are 400 books that parents can opt out of or have those books been removed?” Smith pressed the governor. 

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Youngkin pushed back, citing a pre-existing law that libraries and school boards can assess what book titles are appropriate for children. 

“It was not new and on top of that… the fact that parents, Republicans, independents and Democrats believe that they should be at the head of the table in their child’s life, and they should have a say in their child’s life and things shouldn’t happen to their children without parents knowing and being involved, is common sense. It is a strong majority that believes this,” Youngkin said. “And so that what the progressive left wanted to do was change the narrative. And so ‘this is all about book banning.’ It’s not about book banning. This is about empowering parents to have-“

Some in the crowd let out audible groans to Youngkin, prompting Smith to tell them “please” with a pausing gesture.

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“This is about having parents to have full transparency what’s going on in their kids’ lives,” Youngkin finished his thought.

Youngkin faced boos and jeers from the liberal Texas Tribune Festival audience as he defended his education policies. (Joseph A. Wulfsohn/Fox News Digital)

“And the authors of books that have been removed from library shelves who say Virginia is censoring us. You say what to them?” Smith followed. 

“I say first of all, Virginia is not censoring,” Youngkin responded. “What school boards, local school boards are doing is exercising their legal and responsible right to assess whether books are appropriate in the schools and whether they are age appropriate.”

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“You worry that there’s been some over-correction here?” Smith asked. “I mean, I remember Toni Morrison’s ‘Beloved’ coming up in the context of this discussion. I don’t know that you or anybody on your campaign specifically called that book out, but we know that that book became part of this conversation. I mean, I remember reading ‘Beloved’ in school, in English class. Is that the kind of book that we want to pull off of a library shelf?”

“What grade did you read it in?” Youngkin countered.

“I mean, high school,” Smith answered.

“Is it appropriate for a first-grader or second-grader?” Youngkin then followed. “I’m just asking.”

That exchange sparked some boos from the liberal crowd. 

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Smith and Youngkin repeatedly clashed during the closing keynote conversation at the 2024 Texas Tribune Festival.  (Joseph A. Wulfsohn/Fox News Digital)

Moments later, Smith quoted Youngkin’s neighboring colleague, Democratic Maryland Gov. Wes Moore, who said during last month’s Democratic convention in Chicago “Loving your country doesn’t mean lying about its history,” prompting him to ask Youngkin whether he agreed.

“I have consistently and clearly said we must teach all of our history, the good and the bad, all of it. All of it,” Youngkin said. “What I’ve also said is we shouldn’t blame people today for what’s happened historically. We just want everybody to understand it. It’s why when we’ve eventually got to the finish line on our history curriculum, we have, I believe, rated the best history curriculum in America today because we tell all of our history. We in fact made sure that we were going to include a broad, broad education associated with slavery, with reconstruction, with civil rights, also with the Holocaust. And we need to make sure that our students understand these pivotal moments in our history so that we don’t ever repeat them.”

 

Youngkin later added, “I have to say, what the progressive left does really well is push people into this ‘either or’ moment. It’s either this or that. And I don’t live there. I believe we can live in a ‘both and’ world. We can teach all of our history, the good and the bad, and we can make sure that we’re not penalizing or trying to blame people today for what happened a long time ago. We can do both of these things, and if we do this well, then in fact, we have a generation of students who are educated and are in an ability to make the right decisions going forward, because we’re gonna have to hand our state and our country to this next generation of students.”

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The liberal attendees did offer Youngkin applause when he touted his administration’s effort to give teachers raises, but later they reacted against him after he noted that Democratic state lawmakers blocked legislative efforts towards passing a school voucher program. 

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Alleged criminal history of missing mom found after 24 years catches up with her

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A North Carolina woman whose disappearance in 2001 triggered a 24-year search is now facing criminal charges from the year she vanished.

Michele Hundley Smith, now 63, was located Feb. 20 at an undisclosed location within North Carolina after detectives received new information about her case, the Rockingham County Sheriff’s Office said.

Smith was 38 when her husband reported that she left their Eden home Dec. 9, 2001, to go Christmas shopping in Martinsville, Virginia, and never returned. Her vehicle was never found.

An extensive investigation followed, and, despite years of investigative work, her whereabouts remained unknown until last week.

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The 63-year-old woman posted $2,000 bond on a failure to appear charge related to a DWI from the month before she vanished for 24 years. (Robeson County Sheriff’s Office)

Authorities said Smith told investigators she left on her own accord and referenced “domestic issues.”

Sheriff Sam Page told Fox News Digital the sheriff’s office had no prior record of domestic incidents at the home. No criminal charges are expected in her disappearance. However, following her identification, investigators discovered an outstanding order for arrest dating back to 2001.

A missing persons flyer circulated at the time of Michele Hundely Smith’s disappearance in December 2001. (Bring Michele Hundely Smith Home/Facebook)

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In a statement, the Rockingham County Sheriff’s Office said that, after consultation with the District Attorney’s Office and further investigation, authorities identified an outstanding order for arrest for Smith for failure to appear.

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The order stemmed from a DWI charge issued by the Eden Police Department Nov. 11, 2001. Smith failed to appear in court Dec. 27, 2001, for that charge, the statement said.

On Feb. 25, 2026, Smith was taken into custody by the Robeson County Sheriff’s Office at the request of Rockingham County authorities. She later posted a $2,000 bond and is scheduled to appear in Rockingham County District Court March 26, 2026.

A missing mom found alive after 23 years reveals she left due to domestic issues. (Bring Michele Hundely Smith Home/Facebook)

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On Thursday, the New York Post reported it had located Smith in a trailer in a rural community near the South Carolina state line. Smith told the outlet she is trying to make amends with her daughter and the family she walked out on decades ago.

“My daughter is forgiving me. We are in contact, so leave me alone,” she told the outlet.

Smith’s neighbors said she had “been here for years and years” and mostly keeps to herself. 

“We asked why she didn’t come out of the house much, and she said her husband passed. He passed last year. … She was really sad about it. She said she was depressed and stayed inside,” the neighbor said.

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Michele Hundely Smith disappeared after leaving her home in North Carolina to go Christmas shopping in Virginia in December 2001.  (Bring Michele Hundely Smith Home/Facebook)

In a 2018 interview on “The Vanished Podcast,” her daughter, Amanda Hundley, said her mother’s marriage was unraveling under the weight of alcohol abuse, infidelity and escalating marital arguments.

Smith had recently lost her job at a veterinary practice after being fired for drinking on the job, Hundley said.

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“My dad didn’t like the fact that my mom hid her drinking. I knew about it, and I was the only one. And I felt, you know, I was young, and I felt obligated not to say anything to betray my mom,” Hundley said on the podcast.

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According to Hundley, her father suspected the drinking but did not fully understand the extent of it until after Smith vanished.

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“He said, ‘Do you know where she kept the bottles at?’ And I showed them we had a little red building outside, and it was full of rum bottles, the empties, the ones that she had already drunk,” recalled Hundley, who was 14 at the time.

The couple’s relationship had also deteriorated. Hundley said both her parents had affairs during the marriage. She described frequent arguments that “got physical a few times.”

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Atlanta-area police blast parents over vodka martini packed in school lunch: ‘That is NOT apple juice’

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An Atlanta-area police department issued a blunt notice to parents after officers claimed a child brought a vodka-based beverage to school — tucked beside Doritos in a packed lunch.

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The City of South Fulton Police Department sounded off about the incident in a now-viral Facebook post, warning parents to “CHECK. THE. LUNCHBOX.”

“Say Twin… Before you send them babies off to school… CHECK. THE. LUNCHBOX. Because why are we getting reports of juice boxes sitting next to… Cutwater margaritas??” the department wrote.

Officials also shared a photo of the alleged lunchbox, containing what appears to be a child’s lunch, Doritos and a Cutwater Lemon Drop Martini.

The police department shared a photo of a Cutwater canned cocktail in a lunchbox. (City of South Fulton Police Department via Facebook)

“That is NOT Capri Sun. That is NOT Apple Juice. That is a whole ‘Parent had a long night’ starter pack,” the department wrote. “Now little Johnny done pulled up to 3rd period talking about: ‘Who want fruit snacks?’ knowing good and well he got a Lemon Drop Martini in the zipper pocket.”

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Cutwater Lemon Drop Martinis, as found in the lunchbox, are 11% ABV ready-to-drink cocktails made with vodka, triple sec, lemon juice and natural flavors.

They come in 12-ounce cans, similar in appearance to a soda can.

The City of South Fulton Police Department issued a statement after the apparent mishap. (City of South Fulton Police Department via Facebook)

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The department said it understands mornings can be hectic, but issued a stern notice to parents to “TIGHTEN UP.”

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“Your child shouldn’t be the only one in the cafeteria with a beverage that requires an ID,” authorities wrote. “If it says 12% ABV… it does NOT belong next to a PB&J.”

Officials also provided a “quick parent checklist,” with items including: “Homework,” “Lunch packed,” and “Alcoholic beverages.”

Boxes of Cutwater Tiki Rum Mai Tai and Strawberry Margarita canned cocktails. (Gado/Getty Images)

“Check the lunchbox before the Fulton County Schools Police resource officers gotta do inventory at recess,” the department added.

It is unclear if any parents or students were disciplined in relation to the mix-up.

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Fulton County Schools did not immediately respond to Fox News Digital’s request for comment.

The City of South Fulton, Georgia, is a rapidly growing municipality located about 20 minutes from Atlanta and Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport.

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Federal prosecutor admits ‘extraordinary’ timing in Abrego Garcia smuggling case charges

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A federal prosecutor acknowledged Thursday that the decision to charge Salvadoran migrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia two years after a routine traffic stop was “extraordinary” while defending the human smuggling case as legally justified.

Abrego Garcia, 31, has become a flash point in the national immigration debate since last March, when he was deported to El Salvador in violation of a 2019 court order in what Trump administration officials acknowledged was an “administrative error.” 

The Supreme Court later ruled that the administration had to work to bring him back to the U.S.

After returning in June, Abrego Garcia was taken into federal custody in Nashville and detained on human smuggling charges stemming from a 2022 traffic stop in Tennessee.

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He has pleaded not guilty and is seeking dismissal of the charges on the grounds of vindictive and selective prosecution.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia and his wife Jennifer Vasquez Sura, left, are accompanied by Lydia Walther-Rodriguez, right, of We Are Casa, as they leave the federal courthouse, Thursday, in Nashville, Tenn. (AP Photo/George Walker IV)

A 2019 court order prevents Abrego Garcia from being deported to El Salvador after an immigration judge determined he faced danger from a gang that had threatened his family. He immigrated to the U.S. illegally as a teenager and has been under the supervision of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). 

Abrego Garcia was accused in court records of repeated domestic violence against his wife, who alleged multiple incidents of physical abuse in protective order filings. She later withdrew the protective order request and has defended her husband publicly. 

The Department of Homeland Security has also said he was living in the U.S. illegally and has alleged ties to MS-13, disputing portrayals of him as simply a “Maryland man.” His attorneys have denied the gang allegations.

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Tennessee Highway Patrol body camera footage from when Abrego Garcia was pulled over for speeding shows a calm exchange with officers. While officers discussed suspicions of smuggling among themselves — noting there were nine passengers in the vehicle — Abrego Garcia was issued only a warning.

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A woman holds a sign in support of Kilmar Abrego Garcia in front of the U.S. District Court in Nashville. (Getty Images )

First Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Tennessee Rob McGuire, who was acting U.S. attorney in April 2025, testified Thursday that his decision to charge Abrego Garcia was based on the evidence.

“I had previously prosecuted several human smuggling cases,” McGuire said, noting that after seeing video of the traffic stop, “I was immediately struck by how similar what was being depicted in the body cam was to those investigations.”

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McGuire said Abrego Garcia’s vehicle belonged to someone with “a human smuggling background” and added that the route was “suspicious.”

“It was a large number of individuals traveling in one SUV with a driver who spoke for the group. No one had luggage… the car had Texas plates… the route was suspicious,” McGuire said.

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Kilmar Abrego Garcia arrived at the federal courthouse, Thursday, for a hearing on whether the charges against him should be dismissed. (AP Photo/George Walker IV)

During cross-examination, McGuire acknowledged that the timing of the charges, coming so long after the traffic stop, was “extraordinary.”

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He said he had not previously been aware of the traffic stop but reiterated that nobody in the Trump administration, including the White House or the Department of Justice, pressured him to seek the indictment.

When asked about whether he might have felt pressure to prosecute the case, McGuire said, “I’m not going to do something that is wrong to keep my job.”

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McGuire also said timing factored into charging Abrego Garcia since he was being held in El Salvador, and he did not want the indictment to go public before all senior officials were briefed on the matter.

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“I knew from the get-go that this was going to be a controversial matter,” McGuire said.

U.S. District Judge Waverly D. Crenshaw did not make a ruling Thursday and said he would wait to receive post-hearing briefs from attorneys by March 5 before determining whether another hearing is necessary.

Crenshaw previously found some evidence that the prosecution “may be vindictive” and that prior statements by Trump administration officials “raise cause for concern.”

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Thursday’s court appearance came after a federal judge blocked the Trump administration from re-arresting Abrego Garcia into federal immigration custody on Feb. 17.

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Fox News Digital’s Breanne Deppisch, Jake Gibson and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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