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Catholic Church historian looking for ‘honest assessment’ of Indigenous boarding schools in Oklahoma

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Catholic Church is conducting oral history interviews of people who attended Oklahoma Catholic boarding schools for Native Americans

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An oral historian has begun conducting interviews with people whose family histories are intertwined with Oklahoma Catholic boarding schools for Native Americans.

The interviews of former boarding school students and their descendants are being conducted to glean information for the Oklahoma Catholic Native Schools Project, an ambitious effort launched in 2021 by the Archdiocese of Oklahoma City, the Diocese of Tulsa and St. Gregory’s Abbey.

Through the project, Oklahoma Catholic leaders said they hoped to gain an honest assessment of the history and legacy of boarding schools for Native Americans that were operated by the church from 1880 to 1965.

According to the archdiocese, 14 Catholic boarding schools for Native Americans existed in Oklahoma between 1880 and 1965. The first one opened in Konawa in 1880 and closed in 1926. The last boarding school, St. Patrick’s in Anadarko, closed in 1965. They were all overseen by various Catholic religious orders.

George Rigazzi, the archdiocese’s archivist, said about seven people showed up in Anadarko to share their histories with an independent historian.

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But the oral history initiative hit a snag when a planned second set of interviews in the Fairfax/Pawhuska area was not as fruitful. Because of this, a third interview time in Hominy has been postponed as church leaders regroup to determine how to encourage more people to share their stories.

“I understand the reticence, believe me, because it’s a matter of trust,” Rigazzi said. “We know not everything that happened in the Catholic Indian schools was bad, but we also know there were some things that were not right.”

The interviews in Hominy were initially planned for the first week of January. Rigazzi said church leaders are working with various groups to spread the word to Indigenous communities around the state and a meal designed to open up the lines of communication may be held in February. He said the church is primarily targeting Indigenous people for the interviews, but other people who attended the schools or their descendants are welcome to share their stories, as well.

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The Native Schools Project came in the wake of a reckoning that began in Canada after the May 2021 discovery of 215 unmarked graves of Indigenous children by Canada’s Tk’emlúps te Secwepemc First Nation at the Kamloops Indian Residential School in British Columbia. Shortly afterward, U.S. Interior Secretary Deb Haaland launched a comprehensive review of the federal government’s role with Indigenous boarding schools, aiming to discover and highlight the intergenerational effect of the schools and the trauma they created for hundreds of Indigenous children and families.

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In May 2022, the Interior Department published a federal report based on its investigation, underscoring the wide-ranging forms of abuse that Native students were forced to endure at the boarding schools, all with the purported goal of helping them assimilate into white culture. In June 2022, Oklahoma — which had 76 of the schools, more than any other state ― was the first stop on Haaland’s “Road to Healing” listening tour to hear boarding school survivors talk about their experiences.

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Oral histories versus ‘listening sessions’

Thus far, the project has included research being conducted in partnership with Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, which holds the archives for the Bureau of Catholic Indian Missions. Specific collaboration is with Marquette professor Bryan Rindfleisch, who specializes in Native American history and studies.

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Notably, the project also has included “listening sessions” which were designed to draw former Indigenous boarding school students or their descendants to local churches to talk about their experiences with Deacon Roy Callison, with the archdiocese’s American Indian Catholic Outreach.

Callison, who facilitated the sessions with his wife, Susan, has said the listening sessions were generally informative and positive. At least one, a listening session held in early 2022 at Sacred Heart Catholic Church in Konawa was not as positive, after it ended abruptly when several Native American women spoke about the troubled history of some of the boarding schools. The session ended on a sour note when a priest asked the Native American women to leave because church members became upset about the women’s negative portrayal of the boarding schools.

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Rigazzi said the listening sessions were helpful by providing the Callisons with opportunities to talk about the Native Schools Project with local church members. They also gave Indigenous people and others in the community opportunities to share their stories about the boarding schools with those who gathered for the sessions.

He said the oral history interviews are different because they are being conducted in private and in non-church settings. Also, the archivist said church leaders have ensured that people may share their stories privately with oral history interviewer Lisa Lynn Brooks, an educator who is Choctaw. Rigazzi said Brooks is an Oklahoman who currently lives in New Jersey and she is not Catholic.

He said another individual helping with this latest part of the project is Dana Attocknie, managing editor of the Sooner Catholic, the Oklahoma City archdiocese’s official news outlet. Rigazzi and the archdiocese’s chancellor, Michael Scaperlanda, said Attocknie, who is Comanche and Pueblo, has been helping spread the word about the oral history effort. Scaperlanda said she recommended that the initiative be advertised in tribal newspapers and that has been done.

Scaperlanda said church leaders had hoped to begin the oral history interviews sooner but encountered a few roadblocks. He said they knew the interviews needed to be conducted by someone with no church ties but also a person who has been trained to conduct such interviews, particularly because of the sensitive and personal nature of the topic.

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He said Brooks was added to the project once they determined she was the right person for the task but the logistics of where the interviews would take place also slowed the process down.

“We also knew that time was of the essence because the last school closed in 1965 and a lot of these folks are getting older,” Scaperlanda said.

He said it’s important to note that the church will not publicize oral histories if people don’t want to make them public. The idea behind the effort is to record the histories for the project, but only publicize them if the individual grants permission.

“We want to capture that history and preserve their privacy,” Scaperlanda said.

Like Rigazzi, he said he’s hoping that people will see the advertisements or hear about the oral history effort through word of mouth and decide to share their stories “because we really do want to understand what our boarding school history is.”

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For more information about the oral history interviews, go to https://archokc.org/oknativeschoolsproject.

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A hush-hush plan to convert CompSource Mutual to a stock company has been challenged by a policyholder and a law firm who argue the proposal for Oklahoma’s largest workers’ comp insurer amounts to a raid on CompSource’s $1 billion surplus for an aggressive expansion plan. 

A class-action lawsuit, brought by Oklahoma City law firm Whitten Burrage, ongoing for four years, alleges that CompSource’s $1 billion surplus holdings have accrued, at least in part, from decades of bundling of phantom policies that never pay out on claims.

Speaking through statements issued by a public relations firm, CompSource claimed to have no intention to sell shares in the new company. However, the statements masked a complicated reorganization scheme that would give a subsidiary of the newly formed company the ability to issue shares. 

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An Oklahoma Watch investigation revealed that prior to the conversion plan being submitted to the Oklahoma Insurance Department for approval, CompSource had begun selling multiple lines of insurance in Oklahoma, and had been approved to do business in multiple lines of insurance in at least 10 other states, with applications submitted to dozens more. 

Constitutional attorney Bob Burke, who said he has been a CompSource policyholder for more than 40 years, expressed dire concerns over both the portion of CompSource’s cash holdings that would be transferred from policyholders to the new corporation and the potential 49% of shares of the new company that could become available to outside investors.

“Somebody is going to make a zillion dollars,” Burke said.

Burke expressed doubt about the sincerity of CompSource’s claim that no shares will be sold for six months after the conversion plan is approved. 

“That’s part of the story,” Burke said. “But their documents reveal that it is an intermediate step. They are misleading, because they don’t tell the rest of the story.”

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The Wheatley Mine No. 4 Explosion

On Oct. 27, 1929, an explosion at Wheatley Mine No. 4 in McAlester took the lives of 30 coal miners. Lawsuits stemming from the accident resulted in the dissolution and sale of Samples Coal Co., which operated the mine. Less than a month later came Black Tuesday, the beginning of the 1929 stock market crash.

Four years later, seemingly in response to horrific workplace accidents like the McAlester disaster and because the Great Depression resulted in insurers refusing to write workers’ comp policies despite employers’ statutory obligation to provide benefits, the precursor to CompSource, the State Insurance Fund, was set up with an initial infusion of $25,000 of government money, the equivalent of about $623,000 in 2025. 

For decades, the State Insurance Fund remained the insurer of last resort for Oklahoma businesses required to carry workers’ comp coverage but unable to secure a policy from a private company. Eventually rebranded CompSource, the organization operated as a quasi-governmental public option, which was never intended to seek profits for itself.

If the conversion plan succeeds, workers’ comp rates could increase for about one-third of the state’s workers’ comp policies, critics said.

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Another Explosion, More Lawsuits

On Sept. 29, 2006, Jack Foran, an employee of Okemah-based Double M Construction Company Inc., died in an explosion in Labette County, Kansas, when a piece of machinery hit an inadequately marked 10-inch natural gas pipeline. 

Foran’s widow, Oneta Foran, sued Double M when CompSource refused to pay on Part Two of their coverage; CompSource argued that Part Two applied only if an employer either desired to bring about an injury or had knowledge that such an injury was substantially certain to occur.

Subsequent to that action, Oneta Foran’s attorney, Terry West of Shawnee, executed an about-face and represented Double M in an effort to launch a class-action lawsuit, claiming that CompSource’s Part Two coverage was illusory.

In other words, the plaintiffs argued, CompSource was selling insurance with no intention of paying out on claims, slowly accumulating a huge cash reserve. 

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In 2011, a district judge in Oklahoma County denied class certification, ruling entirely in favor of CompSource. 

Everything is Owned by Policyholders

Two years later, lawmakers considered privatizing the company. Instead, they decided to convert the former State Insurance Fund into CompSource Mutual, a mutual insurance company owned by policyholders. 

That effort was challenged in court by Tulsa attorney and one-time leader of the Oklahoma Senate, Stratton Taylor. Taylor argued in Tulsa Stockyards v. Clark that a move of $265 million of state agency funds to a mutual company violated a prohibition against gifts of public money, among other constitutional wrongs. 

“Somebody’s going to make a zillion dollars.”

Bob Burke

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Taylor lost the Tulsa Stockyards decision at the Oklahoma Supreme Court, which approved the mutualization and upheld previous rulings that found that CompSource funds did not belong to the state; everything the newly minted CompSource Mutual owned was actually owned by its policyholders. 

A New Class Action

In 2020, a decade after class-action certification was denied in the Double M case, Whitten Burrage won class certification for an ongoing lawsuit that asks the same question of illusory Part Two coverage. The suit alleges that $100 million has been wrongly collected since 1978 in sales of a policy upon which CompSource never intended to pay out.

Oklahoma Watch’s investigation discovered an application submitted by CompSource to secure licensing in Texas. The application attests to a vigorous effort to fight the class-action lawsuit, but acknowledges unpredictable vulnerability.

“The ultimate disposition of (the class action) could have a material adverse effect on CompSource Mutual’s financial condition,” the application reads, adding that it was not possible to accurately estimate the potential financial liability. 

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Flying Under the Radar

CompSource Mutual’s latest transformation is in stark contrast to a bruising legislative battle and subsequent Oklahoma Supreme Court decisions more than a decade ago, when lawmakers considered selling off the company. 

The decade since it became a mutual insurance company has been good for CompSource Mutual. The company more than doubled its surplus, from $428 million in 2015 to $971 million in 2024, according to annual reports filed with the Insurance Department. 

In the past five years, the dollar value of premiums written by CompSource Mutual for workers’ comp policies averaged about $202 million each year. At the same time, annual claims averaged $133 million per year. 

The latest reorganization became possible after lawmakers in 2022 passed Senate Bill 524. The bill directed the state Insurance Department to develop a residual market plan by 2024. That effectively ended CompSource’s role as the default workers’ comp insurer if a company couldn’t find required coverage in the private market. 

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Then, House Bill 3090, passed in 2024, set up the process by which a mutual insurance company could convert to a stock company. CompSource requested the bill, but it said the legislation also applied to other mutual insurance companies in Oklahoma. 

CompSource said in written statements that policyholders’ contract and voting rights would remain largely unchanged if it converts to a stock company, with any capital raised for policyholders’ benefit. 

Oklahoma attorney and policyholder Bob Burke offers comments at a hearing on the stock conversion plan by CompSource Mutual Insurance Co. at the Capitol in Oklahoma City on Thursday, Aug. 28, 2025. (Paul Monies/Oklahoma Watch)

A Surprise Meeting

In August, a notice appeared without fanfare on the Insurance Department website, announcing a hearing in a few days’ time for public comments on the CompSource conversion plan. While documents reveal that the plan had been in the works for months or even years, critics cried foul, saying the effort failed to properly notify CompSource policyholders. 

At the Aug. 28 hearing, only two members of the public showed up to offer comments on the plan: Burke and Whitten Burrage attorney Randa Reeves. 

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Reeves offered details on CompSource’s history of selling what plaintiffs claim is illusory coverage. 

“The damage model that we’re talking about is in excess of $100 million in premiums that were wrongfully charged by CompSource to the policyholders dating back to 1978 for coverage that has never been paid,” Reeves said. 

Burke laid out the broader stakes of the conversion plan.

“Now, CompSource has asked the insurance commissioner for permission to convert to a stock insurance company,” Burke said. “In other words, nearly half a billion in assets could be owned by outside stockholders.”

CompSource President and Chief Financial Officer Steve Hardin offered a starkly different characterization of the plan. 

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“The conversion offers CompSource Mutual the ability to better grow and respond to future needs, challenges and opportunities in a rapidly changing insurance industry while preserving mutuality and the ability to operate with a focus on the long-term interests of the policyholders,” Hardin said, reading from a prepared statement at the hearing.

Following the Aug. 28 hearing, the CompSource stock conversion decision fell wholly into the hands of Insurance Commissioner Glen Mulready, a former lawmaker who was first elected as insurance commissioner in 2018. Term-limited, Mulready will not again face the electoral pressures of reelection. Mulready’s decision on the CompSource conversation plan is expected any day. If he approves, the plan will go before policyholders for final approval.

Paul Monies has been a reporter with Oklahoma Watch since 2017 and covers state agencies and public health. Contact him at (571) 319-3289 or pmonies@oklahomawatch.org. Follow him on Twitter @pmonies. 



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Oklahoma Back on the Move in the Polls Following Emphatic Victory Over South Carolina

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Oklahoma seized momentum back in South Carolina. 

The Sooners responded to their setback against Texas with a 26-7 win over the South Carolina Gamecocks. 

After a chaotic week across the country that saw multiple top 10 teams fall for the first time this year, OU will take wins any way it can get them, but the defensive performance on Saturday, paired with Oklahoma’s efforts to rush the ball, was especially encouraging. 

Brent Venables’ squad checked in at No. 13 in the AP Poll and the Sooners moved up two spots to No. 11 in the USA Today Coaches Poll. 

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Now, OU embarks on its treacherous SEC stretch. 

This week, Oklahoma hosts Ole Miss for the first time. 

The Rebels fell three spots to No. 8 in the AP Poll and No. 8 in the Coaches Poll following their 43-35 loss to Georgia. 

SEC Nation will be back on hand in Norman for the second time this year to mark the occasion. 

After clashing with Lane Kiffin and Mississippi, the Sooners will again hit the road to take on Tennessee. 

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The Volunteers also took a slight step back in the AP Poll, falling to No. 17, after losing to Alabama. 

Oklahoma will then enjoy an open weekend before hitting the road to battle the Crimson Tide, who have surged all the way to No. 4 in the AP Poll after notching another ranked victory. 

The Sooners will then close the 2025 regular season with a pair of home contests against No. 15 Missouri and No. 20 LSU.

Venables’ group will learn how they are viewed in the eyes of the College Football Playoff Committee following the trip to Knoxville. 

The first batch of CFP rankings for the 2025 season will be revealed on Nov. 4 at 7 p.m.

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Oklahoma’s pair of marquee September victories has lost a bit of luster. 

Auburn is still on the search for its first SEC victory of the year after losing to Missouri in double overtime on Saturday night. 

Michigan took a positive step this weekend after falling to USC last week. 

The Wolverines are back up to No. 25 in the AP Poll and No. 24 in the Coaches Poll. 

Texas also avoided an embarrassing defeat to Kentucky on Saturday night, which would have made the loss to the Longhorns in the Red River Rivalry that much more frustrating. 

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The Longhorns held steady at No. 22.

Style points won’t matter down the stretch for the Sooners, however. 

Oklahoma has an opportunity to notch a big win in each of its five remaining regular-season games, and OU still holds the ability to chart its own path to the CFP with a strong close to the season over the next six weeks. 



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RYAN CHAPMAN

Ryan is co-publisher at Sooners On SI and covers a number of sports in and around Norman and Oklahoma City.

Working both as a journalist and a sports talk radio host, Ryan has covered the Oklahoma Sooners, the Oklahoma City Thunder, the United States Men’s National Soccer Team, the Oklahoma City Energy and more.

Since 2019, Ryan has simultaneously pursued a career as both a writer and a sports talk radio host, working for the Flagship for Oklahoma sports, 107.7 The Franchise, as well as AllSooners.com.

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Ryan serves as a contributor to The Franchise’s website, TheFranchiseOK.com, which was recognized as having the “Best Website” in 2022 by the Oklahoma Association of Broadcasters.

Ryan holds an associate’s degree in Journalism from Oklahoma City Community College in Oklahoma City, OK. 



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