Florida
Former Social Security Chief Courts Florida Seniors Enraged by Musk's Cuts
MIAMI — On Friday night, former Social Security head Martin O’Malley faced some of the rage that Democratic and Republican members of Congress have been confronted with in recent weeks as the Trump administration ravages the federal government and threatens programs like Social Security. O’Malley was there to detail not just what the Trump administration is going to harm the program, but how Americans can stop it.
The rage came in a gleaming, progressive Methodist church on the ninth floor of a high rise overlooking the Biscayne Bay as O’Malley answered questions from a small audience of seniors who had gathered at one of a handful of events across Florida in recent days. It came from a 61-year-old Cuban-American retiree and Marine veteran named Enrique Tamayo.
“I have to say that sitting here and listening to you speak is frustrating because we are at war,” Tamayo said as O’Malley listened and the room tensed up. “Our country is being taken over. Our programs, our entitlements are being dismantled. What I feel is that we’re bringing a knife to a gunfight.”
O’Malley, the former Democratic Maryland governor, had been telling attendees to call their congressional representatives to urge them to protect Social Security as Elon Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) makes cuts to the agency that, O’Malley says, are already “90 percent of the actions necessary to crater Social Security.”
Tamayo felt it wasn’t enough — his congressional representatives in South Florida, Republicans like Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar and Sen. Rick Scott, weren’t going to listen to people like him. They are part of the authoritarian takeover Tamayo believes the United States is under.
“Do you think they’re going to stop with Social Security? This is authoritarian rule that we’re under and it’s going to get worse,” Tamayo said, noting that Trumpworld figure Steve Bannon has been openly talking about a third Trump presidential term.
Tamayo suggested drastic action — “a month of no consumption,” he said. Shutting down the economy would cripple the Trump regime because “the corporate governance that we have today is at the heart of this mess.”
After a few more comments and questions, O’Malley took in the response to his suggestion that frustrated seniors share their concerns over threats to entitlements like Social Security and Medicaid with their elected representatives. What he heard in response at the Cornerstone United Methodist Church in Miami was that it wouldn’t matter. The people were at their wit’s end.
“That’s how — do I want to use this word? Yes, I do. That’s how fascists win, by making us feel like we can’t do anything about it,” O’Malley said.
Since mid-March, O’Malley has been bouncing between his native Baltimore and Florida to speak at events held by Save Social Security and Medicare Now, a Super PAC formed last year. On Friday, he started the day in Naples, then drove across Alligator Alley to the event in Miami. The next day, Orlando and Palm Coast, then Pensacola. The event with Tamayo in Miami was the smallest of the events so far with about 30 people — former Miami mayor Manny Diaz noted it’s not easy getting downtown at 4 p.m. on a Friday. In all, O’Malley and organizers say, they’ve had some 3,000 people, mostly seniors, show up at their events. The next day in Fort Lauderdale, hundreds filled every pew of a Methodist church.
“I think this is the beginning of something,” O’Malley told Rolling Stone after the Fort Lauderdale event. There, he told attendees that “this is a moment in our country’s history to not give up on the capacity of our neighbors to be engaged. So many of us are checking out because it can be anxiety-inducing, but now is the time to be at the table of democracy.”
ATTENDEES AT THE EVENTS have vacillated between distraught, bewildered, confused, and occasionally very, very angry.
“Where’s Jared Moskowitz’ rep?” one man screamed of the Democratic representative as O’Malley thanked local pols who attended an event held Saturday at the Methodist Church of Christ in Fort Lauderdale.
The people at the events are worried about soaring wait times online and on over the phone, plus the prospect of their local Social Security office closing. Meanwhile, the agency’s website has crashed and waits to speak to representatives have skyrocketed thanks to DOGE’s cuts, according to the Washington Post. DOGE has slated 47 field offices in 24 states for closure and has said it will do away with the agency’s 800 number in favor of online customer service.
“I’m techie, so I can figure stuff like that out,” one woman, who didn’t want to give her name, tells Rolling Stone. “But I worry about people who aren’t so good with technology or who don’t have Internet access.”
The woman and her husband noted that many of the offices DOGE wants to close are in rural areas with unreliable internet. Attendees worried that Social Security is effectively being shut down under the guise of rooting out the fraud, waste, and abuse that Musk and the Trump administration claim are infecting the system.
In addition to the wildly unfounded claims that Americans well over the age of 100 are receiving benefits, Musk and Trump have claimed that entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare are rife with fraud and improper payments. Musk recently claimed, without evidence, that there’s up to $700 billion in fraud in entitlements each year. The White House has singled out a report from the former inspector general of Social Security showing that the agency made $72 billion in improper payments between 2015 and 2022, amounting to .85 percent of all payments.
The claims are key to the Trump administration’s argument that it is carrying out a campaign promise to cut waste, fraud, and abuse. So far, DOGE and the White House have yet to report a single actual instance of fraud. Still, Attorney General Pam Bondi insisted at Monday’s Cabinet meeting that those who commit fraud in relation to government services will be prosecuted.
“We’re coming after you,” Bondi said, in part, claiming the Justice Department now has a “task force” looking at fraud claims in every major federal government agency.
O’Malley is quick to point out that there were already checks against fraud within the Social Security Administration (SSA) — checks that were some of the first cuts made by DOGE when it closed the Office of Analytics, Review and Oversight, the SSA office responsible for investigating fraud and improper payments.
O’Malley, the former Baltimore mayor and Maryland governor who briefly ran for president in 2016 and served as Social Security commissioner for a year under President Joe Biden, has begun his talks at the events by describing how he got the job. Neera Tanden, Biden’s staff secretary and a senior advisor, had called O’Malley and described how wait times had gone up as the SSA’s customer service operations had deteriorated. “Sounds like a problem. Who do you have in mind to fix it?” O’Malley recalls asking Tanden. “Well, we were thinking of you,” she replied.
Thus began O’Malley’s crash course in Social Security, an agency with offices and thousands of employees in his native Baltimore. He remembers asking top staff there if they had pie charts so he could better visualize some of the endless numbers and stats being thrown his way. “Pie charts are for simpletons,” was the response, O’Malley told the crowd in Fort Lauderdale before taking a pause. “OK, do you have any pie charts to help explain all this?” he recalled responding to the staffer as the crowd laughed.
O’Malley points to a simple graph to explain the challenges his former agency faces. It shows the number of Social Security employees going down over a 50-year period as the number of beneficiaries — Baby Boomers like O’Malley entering retirement — have skyrocketed. At events across Florida, O’Malley has touted his work as Social Security Commissioner, noting that wait times on the agency’s 800 number went down during his tenure, and how he limited “clawback” fees to prevent seniors from going broke if the agency made a mistake and overpaid them. The Trump administration has returned those clawback fees to 100 percent, meaning even an accidental overpayment that is no fault of a beneficiary will result in their entire check being withheld.
From there, O’Malley has gone on to explain everything that has happened in Trump’s first two months in office, with acting commissioner Leland Dudek overseeing a “reign of terror,” as O’Malley puts it. First, DOGE staffers like Musk deputy Steve Davis and a 22-year-old former Meta and Palantir intern named Akash Bobba demanded sweeping access to all of SSA’s data systems, according to a deposition from a 30-year SSA veteran filed in a lawsuit brought against the agency by the AFL-CIO. When former commissioner Michele King — who O’Malley says was a dedicated public servant who began her career decades before as a 22-year-old intern herself at the agency — refused to provide the data, Dudek undercut her, eventually admitting to his subordination in a since-deleted LinkedIn post.
“I confess. I bullied agency executives, shared executive contact information, and circumvented the chain of command to connect DOGE with the people who get stuff done,” Dudek wrote.
As punishment, King placed Dudek on administrative leave as Davis and DOGE continued demanding access to the data. Rather than hand it over, King resigned. The Trump administration then chose Dudek for the role of acting commissioner. On Tuesday, the Senate will hear from the administration’s pick to lead the agency — Frank Bisignano, a former Fiserv executive known for cost-saving staff cuts at the company — at his confirmation hearing.
Dudek and DOGE have been on the warpath, closing the review and oversight office that examined fraud and improper payments, closing the Office of Transformation, which dealt with customer service, and shuttering the Office of Civil Rights, which heard workplace complaints of discrimination. Amid the carnage, Trump fired the agency’s inspector general along with more than a dozen other inspectors general across the government.
Also removed in the slow-rolling massacre were Eric Powers, the agency’s head of customer service, and Claudia Postell, who oversaw the civil rights office — both dedicated public servants, O’Malley says. Powers was unceremoniously fired for cause, according to O’Malley, who relayed the stories of Powers’ firing and other agency cuts as told to him by insiders
“Trump isn’t pleased with customer service and you haven’t made it any better so you’re fired — go get a cardboard box,” O’Malley says of Powers’ firing.
“It was like the Wizard of Oz tearing apart the scarecrow,” O’Malley told the crowd in Fort Lauderdale as attendees sat in silent disbelief at the description of events. “They made a spectacle of it for everyone to see — people standing in the parking lot with boxes on the hood of their cars crying and hugging each other.”
With the agency being gutted from the inside out, DOGE offered buyouts to thousands of employees at or near retirement age. More than 2,000 have taken the offer. “These guys are paying people — with your money — to leave,” O’Malley told the crowd. “That’s the biggest waste of efficiency in the history of the Social Security Administration.”
Then came the lies, O’Malley says. Looking at data that was, in part, organized by an antiquated coding system, DOGE staff thought they had discovered people well over the age of 100 receiving benefits. What they were actually looking at was a quirk in the system: For people whose date of birth wasn’t known, the system — known as COBOL — defaulted to an internationally recognized date for statistical language. The date was in the year 1875, making it appear that Americans who were well over 100 years old were still receiving benefits.
Musk and Trump took this mistake and ran with it, talking about people who were 100, 150, and even 300 years old who were allegedly receiving Social Security benefits. None of it was true.
“The DOGE kids were elated — they thought they’d found this high scandal,” O’Malley told the crowd in Fort Lauderdale. “But didn’t really know what they were looking at.”
O’Malley says he believed Musk would correct the record and admit DOGE’s mistake, but when Trump mentioned the phenomenon of people at impossibly high ages receiving benefits, he knew it was part of a campaign to discredit Social Security amid efforts to cut services.
“I thought, ‘Woah, what a huge gaffe, Musk probably didn’t tell him it wasn’t true.’ Now, I think they must have done their polling and know that enough people in their base will choose to believe that we’re sending money out to cadavers with checks falling out of their pockets.”
ALL OF THIS HAS LEFT seniors and other Americans who rely on Social Security asking two questions: How bad will it get, and what can be done about it? The answer to the first question, according to O’Malley, is “total system collapse” if nothing is done to stop DOGE’s work inside the SSA. Part of that work was halted last week when a federal judge issued an order prohibiting DOGE from accessing the personal data of hundreds of millions of Americans.
To answer the second question, O’Malley believes that his barnstorming tour and the message it sends to congressional Republicans might strike enough fear of losing in the midterms into the hearts of congressional Republicans to make them think twice about letting DOGE’s work inside the SSA and other agencies continue unfettered.
“I can see the look in your eyes — we’ll never get Rick Scott to do anything,” O’Malley told Tamayo in Miami. “But don’t give up on him; don’t give up on your legislators.”
After the event, O’Malley and Diaz found a nearby bar to grab drinks and unpack the event. Over a Corona and a shot of well tequila, O’Malley told Diaz he has embraced the role of “Social Security Commissioner-in-exile,” something the former Miami mayor suggested is in line with what prominent Democrats should be doing in Washington: holding “shadow cabinet” meetings and regular press conferences explaining the threats posed by DOGE and the Trump administration’s gutting of government.
That may help from a messaging perspective, but much more may be required. Tamayo wasn’t alone in suggesting that true progress on defending Social Security and stopping the Trump administration’s authoritarian dismantling of government might take something more forceful than calling members of Congress. A woman at the Fort Lauderdale event told O’Malley that Americans should prepare for widespread protests and boycotts.
“To stop them — France is where I think we need to be looking towards,” she said. “They do general strikes all the time whenever the government comes for their benefits.”
O’Malley didn’t oppose the idea even as he insisted that pressure on Congress could bring an end to the DOGE madness. That, plus something as simple as talking to one’s neighbors, friends, and family — even if they’re Trump supporters — to inform them about the threats to Social Security. O’Malley told the crowd in Fort Lauderdale he had achieved a greater understanding of what drives Musk when the world’s richest man recently said that “the fundamental weakness of Western Civilization is empathy.”
He said Musk believes that the men and women attending the events in Florida, like all retirees, are an “inefficiency” to be eliminated — a position that O’Malley argued is out of step with fundamental American values.
“The greatness of our country is not measured by the power of our armies or by the vastness of our wealth, it is measured by the care and compassion we demonstrate for each other,” O’Malley said in Fort Lauderdale.
After the event, O’Malley spent 30 minutes speaking with attendees before his bodyman gave him the three-minute warning. Then, it was into a rented Kia sedan and off to Palm Coast, three hours and 45 minutes away. With growing anger at Democratic Party leadership and progressive Americans looking for party leaders to push back against the Trump administration, it’s only natural to wonder whether O’Malley’s tour of Florida to save Social Security is the beginning of a long road that ends at the White House in 2029.
“We’re primed to think of things in terms of electoral self-preservation,” he tells Rolling Stone. “But I’d rather not be having to do this. I’d rather be running Social Security.”
Even under Trump?
“Hell no — for an administration that isn’t trying to destroy it.”
Florida
Muslim rights group sues Florida Gov. DeSantis over ‘foreign terrorist’ label
ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A leading Muslim civil rights group in the U.S. has sued Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis over his order designating it and another organization as a “ foreign terrorist organization,” saying the directive was unconstitutional.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations, known as CAIR, has more than 20 chapters across the United States and its work involves legal actions, advocacy and education outreach.
The lawsuit was filed late Monday by the CAIR-Foundation and CAIR-Florida, its affiliate in the state. The suit asked a federal judge in Tallahassee to declare DeSantis’ order unlawful and unconstitutional and prevent it from being enforced.
“He has usurped the exclusive authority of the federal government to identify and designate terrorist organizations by baselessly declaring CAIR a terrorist organization,” the lawsuit says.
DeSantis’ order was among a series of recent actions or statements made by Republican elected officials which target U.S. Muslims or their groups.
U.S. Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., on Sunday posted on social media that “Islam is not a religion. It’s a cult.”
A day later, CAIR designated Tuberville, who is running for Alabama governor, as an anti-Muslim extremist for his “increasingly hateful and dangerous attacks on Alabama Muslims.” The group said it was the first time it had given a U.S. senator that designation. Tuberville responded on social media that it was a “badge of honor.” When asked Tuesday about his statements, Tuberville spokesman Mallory Jaspers repeated what Tuberville had said.
U.S. Rep. Randy Fine, R-Fla., also posted Monday on social media about his support for “a Muslim travel ban, radical deportations of all mainstream Muslim legal and illegal immigrants, and citizenship revocations wherever possible.”
“Mainstream Muslims have declared war on us. The least we can do is kick them the hell out of America,” Fine wrote.
Anti-Muslim bias has persisted in different forms since Sept. 11, 2001, and there’s been a rise in Islamophobia during more than two years of war in Gaza.
During a news conference about the Florida lawsuit, Charles Swift, a lawyer for the Muslim Legal Fund of America, called the elected officials’ statements dangerous and bigoted.
“The Constitution protects people’s rights to be bigoted, not the government’s rights,” said Swift, whose group is one of the legal organizations representing CAIR. “When a governor issues an executive order to silence Muslims, that’s a different question altogether because if you can do that, you can silence anyone.”
CAIR said in the Florida lawsuit that it has always condemned terrorism and violence. The lawsuit alleges DeSantis targeted the group for defending the free speech rights of people in cases where state officials and officials elsewhere tried to punish or silence those who expressed support for Palestinian human rights.
The order by DeSantis last week also gives the same “foreign terrorist” label to the Muslim Brotherhood, a pan-Arab Islamist political movement. President Donald Trump last month issued an executive order that sets in motion a process to designate certain chapters of the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization.
The governor’s order instructs Florida agencies to prevent the two groups and those who have provided them material support from receiving contracts, employment and funds from a state executive or cabinet agency.
Florida has an estimated 500,000 Muslim residents, according to CAIR.
When reached by email for comment on Tuesday, the governor’s press secretary, Molly Best, referred to DeSantis’ recent social media posts on the topic in which he said he looked forward to a trial. In one post, DeSantis said, “I look forward to discovery — especially the CAIR finances. Should be illuminating!”
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has issued a similar proclamation in Texas. CAIR last month asked a federal judge to strike down Abbott’s proclamation, saying in a lawsuit that it was “not only contrary to the United States Constitution, but finds no support in any Texas law.”
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Associated Press writers Kimberly Chandler in Montgomery, Alabama, and Kate Payne in Tallahassee, Florida, contributed to this report.
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Florida
24 endangered sea turtles recovering in Florida after cold stunning off Cape Cod
JUNO BEACH, Fla. — Two dozen Kemp’s ridley sea turtles are rehabilitating in Florida after the frigid waters off of Cape Cod, Massachusetts, left them struggling with frostbite, pneumonia and abrasions.
The 24 endangered sea turtles arrived at the Loggerhead Marinelife Center in Juno Beach, Florida, on Dec. 9, thanks to the nonprofit organization LightHawk. Last year, the center welcomed another bunch of cold-stunned turtles that were released into the Atlantic months later.
They are expected to remain at the facility until spring, when they’ll be released into the Atlantic Ocean to make their way back to New England, said Heather Barron, chief science officer and veterinarian at Loggerhead.
She said the turtles suffered from a conditioned called cold stunning, which requires treatment with antibiotics, fluids and nebulization.
Cold stunning occurs in extremely frigid temperatures and causes the cold-blooded sea turtles to become lethargic and lose mobility, and Kemp’s ridley, loggerhead and green sea turtles are typically affected.
The turtles migrate north in the summer and many get stuck while heading south in the hooked peninsula of Cape Cod, according to a New England Aquarium fact sheet. As the ocean temperatures drop, the turtles become lethargic, emaciated and hypothermic. They begin washing ashore, where volunteers rescue them and take them to the sea turtle hospital.
A number of turtles were sent to Florida to relieve overcrowding at the New England Aquarium, said Pam Bechtold Snyder, director of marketing and communications for the Boston facility. Most of those turtles were stranded during a strong westerly wind event on Nov. 28 and went through the triage process at the Boston facility, Snyder said.
They were sent to Florida to make room for more turtles coming in from Cape Cod, she said. So far during the annual cold-stunning phenomenon that began on Nov. 7, they’ve treated 472 hypothermic turtles.
The hospital staff works with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Fisheries Service to transfer the turtles to various sea turtle hospitals, including Loggerhead, Snyder said.
“These guys are very critically ill when they get here, and they are undergoing extensive treatment,” Barron said of the turtles sent to Juno Beach. “They’re getting nebulized where they actually breathe in medicine. That helps their lungs do their job better.”
When turtles arrive in groups at Loggerhead, the staff gives them names, following a theme, Barron said.
“And in this case, it is Greek mythology,” Barron said. “So we have Pandora and Gaia and Persephone and Helios and all those guys.”
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Frisaro reported from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
Florida
Is weed legal in Florida? What to know before traveling for holidays
Trump weighs executive order loosening federal marijuana rules
President Donald Trump is considering an order to reclassify marijuana, easing restrictions and expanding research opportunities.
Can Floridians or those traveling to Florida for the holidays light one up while taking part in festive activities? Doing so will result in your name being added to the state’s naughty list.
While it’s legal in about half the country, recreational marijuana remains illegal in Florida.
An amendment last year to make recreational marijuana legal in the Sunshine State came close and got a majority of the vote, but it failed to hit Florida’s required 60% threshold. The group behind it is trying again in 2026.
Here’s what you need to know about marijuana laws in Florida before the holiday.
Is marijuana legal in Florida?
Yes, but only for some people.
Medical marijuana is legal in Florida for residents diagnosed with a specific set of conditions who have applied for and received a Medical Marijuana ID Card or caregivers who have received a Medical Marijuana Caregiver Card.
Is recreational marijuana legal in Florida?
No. During the 2024 General Election, an amendment that called for legalizing recreational marijuana in Florida failed to get the 60% of votes needed to pass.
Is medical marijuana legal in Florida?
Medical marijuana is legal here, but only for Florida residents with the following conditions who apply for and receive a Medical Marijuana Card:
- Cancer
- Epilepsy
- Glaucoma
- HIV (human immunodeficiency virus)
- AIDS (Acquired immune deficiency syndrome)
- PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder)
- ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis)
- Crohn’s disease
- Parkinson’s disease
- Multiple sclerosis
- Comparable medical conditions or status to the above
- A terminal condition
- Chronic nonmalignant pain
Note that under a new Florida law as of July 1, medical marijuana registration will be revoked if a patient or caregiver is convicted or pleads guilty or no contest to drug trafficking, sale or manufacture.
Can I bring weed if I have a medical marijuana card from another state?
No. The state of Florida does not offer reciprocity. A bill in this year’s legislative session that would have changed that died in committee.
Can I get busted for possessing weed in Florida?
Without a Medical Marijuana Card (or Medical Marijuana Caregiver Card, for people assisting medical marijuana patients who are minors or who need help), if you are caught with pot, you will be penalized. Marijuana advocacy group NORML lists the following penalties under Florida Statutes:
- Possessing 20 grams or less: First-degree misdemeanor, up to one year in jail and maximum $1,000 fine.
- Possession of paraphernalia: Misdemeanor, up to one year in jail and maximum $1,000 fine.
- Possessing marijuana within 1,000 feet of a school, college, park or other specified areas: Felony, mandatory three-year sentence and maximum $10,000 fine.
- Possessing from 20 grams: to 25 pounds: Felony, up to five years in jail and maximum $5,000 fine.
- Possessing from 25 to 2,000 pounds of marijuana: First-degree felony, from three to 15 years in jail and $25,000 fine.
- Possessing from 2,000 to 10,000 pounds of marijuana: First-degree felony, from seven to 30 years and $50,000 fine.
- Possessing more than 10,000 pounds of marijuana: First-degree felony, from 15 to 30 years and $200,000 fine.
However, many communities and municipalities have decriminalized possession of up to 20 grams of marijuana, meaning if you’re busted, you’ll get a fine (which will go up each time). You may be required to attend a drug education program or do community service.
Areas that have decriminalized pot include Alachua County, Broward County, Cocoa Beach, Hallandale Beach, Key West, Miami Beach, Miami-Dade County, Orlando, Osceola County, Palm Beach County, Port Richey, Sarasota, Tampa and Volusia County.
Is it legal to sell weed in Florida?
Only licensed medical marijuana dispensaries may sell marijuana in the state of Florida. Even with a medical marijuana card, you may not buy your pot anywhere but at a licensed dispensary.
People charged with selling marijuana can face the following:
- 25 grams or less, without renumeration: Misdemeanor, maximum 1 year in jail, $1,000 fine.
- 20 grams to 25 pounds: Felony, maximum 5 years in jail, $5,000 fine.
- 25 to less than 2,000 pounds or 300-2,000 plants: Felony, three to 15 years, maximum $25,000 fine.
- 2,000 to less than 10,000 pounds or 2,000-10,000 plants: Felony, seven to 30 years, maximum $50,000 fine.
- 10,000 pounds or more: Felony, 15 to 30 years, maximum $200,000 fine.
- If within 1,000 feet of a school, college, park, or other specified areas: An additional 3-15 years, $10,000 fine.
Are low-THC products like delta-8, delta-9, delta-10 or THC-O legal in Florida?
Assorted different types of so-called “diet weed” cannabinoids, such as delta-8, delta-9, delta-10 and THC-O, which are derived from hemp and not marijuana and contain lower levels of THC, are legal here under the 2018 federal Farm Bill that allows farmers to grow industrial hemp.
Last year, the Florida Legislature passed SB 1698, a bill that effectively banned delta-8 and delta-10 products and set a 5-milligram-per-serving limit for delta-9 THC, but Gov. Ron DeSantis vetoed it, reportedly to protect small businesses.
However, they remain federally illegal.
Can you get a DUI in Florida on marijuana?
Yes. Drivers under the influence of drugs, including marijuana, face the same penalties as drunk drivers in Florida.
That ranges from up to six months of jail time, a fine between $500 and $1,000, a license suspension, 50 hours of community service and a 10-day vehicle impoundment (for the first offense) to up to five years in prison, up to $5,000 in fines, lifetime license revocation and more for the fourth offense.
Penalties go up fast if there is a minor in the vehicle or you cause property damage, injury or death.
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