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Funny, it isn't hard to make a comedy show that autistic adults can enjoy too

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Funny, it isn't hard to make a comedy show that autistic adults can enjoy too

Joshua Meyrowitz stepped up to the stage at the Laugh Factory in Hollywood and announced himself to the crowd as “your fellow autistic,” spurring whoops and applause.

“One of the hardest things as an autistic person is being able to relate to people,” the comedian said, “and as a stand-up comic, you are required to relate to people.

“With an audience full of autistic people, I don’t have to relate to s— now!” Meyrowitz declared as laughter rippled through the room. “I’m in the zone, brother!”

It was a Wednesday night at the storied club on Sunset Boulevard, and in many ways, the show unspooling on its brightly lit stage sounded like any other comedic lineup in the Sunset Strip area, with punchlines about genitalia pics, politics, married life and the grosser side effects of Ozempic.

But its goal was a lofty one: Make the raucous world of stand-up comedy a welcoming place for people whose brains work differently. This show was playing out before a crowd full of autistic adults and other neurodivergent people, many joined by their neurotypical family and friends.

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The tweaks to a typical show were small ones: A “chill-out space” for anyone who needed to step out for a break. Lowering the volume on the music playing inside and avoiding any sudden, noisy changes in music between acts. Letting the comedians know to lay off if someone jumped up or blurted something out.

Comedian Jeremiah Watkins performs at the Laugh Factory.

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Funnily enough, making a comedy show inclusive for neurodivergent people is “not a big adjustment at all — it’s just something that no one’s thought to do,” said Rob Kutner, a comedy writer and co-producer of the Wednesday show.

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“You need almost nothing, except a little bit of thoughtfulness.”

When Jeremiah Watkins heard someone in the audience interject, “What about trains?” the comedian welcomed the chance to riff.

“What about trains?” he replied enthusiastically. “Are you a fan of trains? Nice. What’s your favorite kind of train?” he asked before launching into his next bit.

At a smaller comedy show for an autistic crowd months earlier, Watkins recalled, he surprised an audience member who quoted a “Harry Potter” line at him by responding with an impression of Professor Severus Snape.

The show that Wednesday, dubbed “Let It Out,” can be a model for comedy performances around the world, Kutner and co-producer Mike Rotman said. The pair worked with advocates including Autism in Entertainment, which promotes the employment of people on the autism spectrum in the industry, to publicize and document the show.

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What they want people to know is that inclusion can be easy. “This should be normalized,” Rotman said. “This should be existing weekly.”

Willie Hunter laughs while hosting a comedy show at the Laugh Factory.

Willie Hunter laughs while hosting “Let It Out,” a comedy show that aimed to be inclusive for neurodivergent people.

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As growing numbers of Americans are diagnosed with autism — a condition that can shape how people think, relate to others and experience the world — and generations have grown up with the protections of the Americans with Disabilities Act, there has been an ongoing push for inclusion in daily life.

Many public spaces have taken steps to better accommodate neurodivergent people and their sensory needs: Some movie theaters offer “sensory friendly” screenings where lights remain on and sound is softened. Museums may have designated days and times when fewer people are admitted to limit crowds.

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Even so, Maja Watkins, whose work focuses on teaching social and emotional skills, says there is still a dearth of fun, accessible options tailored for autistic adults.

“You’re in high school. You go to prom, and a lot of times the special ed department will make these fun opportunities for you. And then you graduate and slowly services and programs just start cutting away,” Watkins said.

Her husband is a comedian — the one who riffed on trains that Wednesday night — and she said that her 38-year-old brother, who has autism, loves comedy shows but has sometimes disliked the loud noise or late hours.

“How cool would it be if it was a comedy show that made everybody laugh … but maybe the seating is set up in a way where people aren’t so squished together?” Maja Watkins said. “Maybe it’s not crazy loud at the beginning? Maybe if somebody needs to take out a fidget … to be more calm, then that’s OK?”

Or being able to get up and take a break without facing a barb from someone onstage — “that’s what my brother would have needed to stay through the whole show,” she said.

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A young man is interviewed in the comics' lounge at the Laugh Factory before a comedy show.

Kole Spickler gives an interview backstage at the Laugh Factory.

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The Wednesday crowd included young adults taking a class at the Miracle Project, an organization based in Los Angeles, that teaches social skills through improv. Teacher Sandy Abramson said for her students, “going to a place like this can be overwhelming because you have to adapt to the social norm, which is, ‘Don’t talk. You can’t take breaks.’ Things like that.”

At this show, she said, “they don’t have to feel nervous or anxious about how they will be perceived.”

Kole Spickler, 23, was excited for the show to start. “I just like being out in public,” said Spickler, who is autistic and counts Jim Gaffigan and Brian Regan among his favorite comedians.

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Like many autistic people, he can be frank, sometimes humorously so. Asked about what he was learning in social skills class — a Miracle Project staffer at his side — he said, “I’m not sure if I really learned anything.”

Had he enjoyed it?

“Yes. Sort of,” he said. “Some of my peers can be really annoying.”

During the show, the crowd relished jokes about autism. “I was born with autism, but everything else is my parents’ fault,” Meyrowitz quipped. Kruger Dunn told the audience he had been diagnosed on the spectrum late in life.

A young man claps during a comedy show at the Laugh Factory.

Bryan Miguel attends a comedy show at the Laugh Factory.

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Doctors had told him, “You don’t lie. You like to memorize a lot of facts, and you won’t go for help even if there’s trouble,” Dunn said. “I’m like, ‘So what you’re saying is, I’m trustworthy, smart, and I ain’t no snitch?’”

“You use the word ‘disability’ a lot, but those sound like abilities to me, Doc,” Dunn said to laughter and applause.

But Maja Watkins and others involved in organizing the show at the Laugh Factory stressed that accommodating the crowd didn’t mean doing a comedy show all about autism, nor discarding their usual jokes. Rotman said some comics had asked him, “Are you looking for me to do neurodivergent material?”

“No, not at all,” he told them. “Do your set … Do your seven minutes.”

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Laugh Factory hostess Carmella Rogers said she insisted on working that Wednesday night after finding out about the show, because “I wouldn’t have to mask as I normally would” to appear neurotypical to showgoers.

In her line of work, you have to “show a lot of emotions, be really happy all the time,” which can sometimes be difficult for Rogers, who is autistic and has attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder. In a break between shows that night, she said was gratified that the comedians hadn’t infantilized the neurodivergent crowd.

“People tend to think if you’re autistic, you need to be treated like a child,” she said. “I’m just like a regular adult — there’s just certain things about me that make me different from the average person.”

Comedian Laurie Kilmartin performs at the Laugh Factory.

Comedian Laurie Kilmartin performs during “Let It Out” at the Laugh Factory.

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Ahead of her set, comedian Laurie Kilmartin said she was “mostly just doing a regular show,” but not reacting the way she might otherwise if someone piped up in the crowd.

“I’ve done every hell gig possible in the world so I’m not easily thrown,” said Kilmartin, before hastening to add, “Not that I am implying this is a hell gig — I’m just saying!”

Stand-up might seem, at first glance, like an unexpected place for autistic people, who may miss social cues or communicate in ways that typical people struggle to understand. But it has often been a haven for people who don’t fit the norm.

Meyrowitz, who has been performing for more than a decade and a half, said his anxiety made it hard from him to work “normal jobs,” but in comedy, “we’re all a bunch of weirdos.” He once thought he would live with his parents his whole life. Now he shares an apartment with other comics.

Comedy, Meyrowitz said, “gives me a community of friends I never had before.”

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Political stress: Can you stay engaged without sacrificing your mental health?

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It’s been two weeks since Donald Trump won the presidential election, but Stacey Lamirand’s brain hasn’t stopped churning.

“I still think about the election all the time,” said the 60-year-old Bay Area resident, who wanted a Kamala Harris victory so badly that she flew to Pennsylvania and knocked on voters’ doors in the final days of the campaign. “I honestly don’t know what to do about that.”

Neither do the psychologists and political scientists who have been tracking the country’s slide toward toxic levels of partisanship.

Fully 69% of U.S. adults found the presidential election a significant source of stress in their lives, the American Psychological Assn. said in its latest Stress in America report.

The distress was present across the political spectrum, with 80% of Republicans, 79% of Democrats and 73% of independents surveyed saying they were stressed about the country’s future.

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That’s unhealthy for the body politic — and for voters themselves. Stress can cause muscle tension, headaches, sleep problems and loss of appetite. Chronic stress can inflict more serious damage to the immune system and make people more vulnerable to heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, infertility, clinical anxiety, depression and other ailments.

In most circumstances, the sound medical advice is to disengage from the source of stress, therapists said. But when stress is coming from politics, that prescription pits the health of the individual against the health of the nation.

“I’m worried about people totally withdrawing from politics because it’s unpleasant,” said Aaron Weinschenk, a political scientist at the University of Wisconsin–Green Bay who studies political behavior and elections. “We don’t want them to do that. But we also don’t want them to feel sick.”

Modern life is full of stressors of all kinds: paying bills, pleasing difficult bosses, getting along with frenemies, caring for children or aging parents (or both).

The stress that stems from politics isn’t fundamentally different from other kinds of stress. What’s unique about it is the way it encompasses and enhances other sources of stress, said Brett Ford, a social psychologist at the University of Toronto who studies the link between emotions and political engagement.

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For instance, she said, elections have the potential to make everyday stressors like money and health concerns more difficult to manage as candidates debate policies that could raise the price of gas or cut off access to certain kinds of medical care.

Layered on top of that is the fact that political disagreements have morphed into moral conflicts that are perceived as pitting good against evil.

“When someone comes into power who is not on the same page as you morally, that can hit very deeply,” Ford said.

Partisanship and polarization have raised the stakes as well. Voters who feel a strong connection to a political party become more invested in its success. That can make a loss at the ballot box feel like a personal defeat, she said.

There’s also the fact that we have limited control over the outcome of an election. A patient with heart disease can improve their prognosis by taking medicine, changing their diet, getting more exercise or quitting smoking. But a person with political stress is largely at the mercy of others.

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“Politics is many forms of stress all rolled into one,” Ford said.

Weinschenk observed this firsthand the day after the election.

“I could feel it when I went into my classroom,” said the professor, whose research has found that people with political anxiety aren’t necessarily anxious in general. “I have a student who’s transgender and a couple of students who are gay. Their emotional state was so closed down.”

That’s almost to be expected in a place like Wisconsin, whose swing-state status caused residents to be bombarded with political messages. The more campaign ads a person is exposed to, the greater the risk of being diagnosed with anxiety, depression or another psychological ailment, according to a 2022 study in the journal PLOS One.

Political messages seem designed to keep voters “emotionally on edge,” said Vaile Wright, a licensed psychologist in Villa Park, Ill., and a member of the APA’s Stress in America team.

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“It encourages emotion to drive our decision-making behavior, as opposed to logic,” Wright said. “When we’re really emotionally stimulated, it makes it so much more challenging to have civil conversation. For politicians, I think that’s powerful, because emotions can be very easily manipulated.”

Making voters feel anxious is a tried-and-true way to grab their attention, said Christopher Ojeda, a political scientist at UC Merced who studies mental health and politics.

“Feelings of anxiety can be mobilizing, definitely,” he said. “That’s why politicians make fear appeals — they want people to get engaged.”

On the other hand, “feelings of depression are demobilizing and take you out of the political system,” said Ojeda, author of “The Sad Citizen: How Politics is Depressing and Why it Matters.”

“What [these feelings] can tell you is, ‘Things aren’t going the way I want them to. Maybe I need to step back,’” he said.

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Genessa Krasnow has been seeing a lot of that since the election.

The Seattle entrepreneur, who also campaigned for Harris, said it grates on her to see people laughing in restaurants “as if nothing had happened.” At a recent book club meeting, her fellow group members were willing to let her vent about politics for five minutes, but they weren’t interested in discussing ways they could counteract the incoming president.

“They’re in a state of disengagement,” said Krasnow, who is 56. She, meanwhile, is looking for new ways to reach young voters.

“I am exhausted. I am so sad,” she said. “But I don’t believe that disengaging is the answer.”

That’s the fundamental trade-off, Ojeda said, and there’s no one-size-fits-all solution.

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“Everyone has to make a decision about how much engagement they can tolerate without undermining their psychological well-being,” he said.

Lamirand took steps to protect her mental health by cutting social media ties with people whose values aren’t aligned with hers. But she will remain politically active and expects to volunteer for phone-banking duty soon.

“Doing something is the only thing that allows me to feel better,” Lamirand said. “It allows me to feel some level of control.”

Ideally, Ford said, people would not have to choose between being politically active and preserving their mental health. She is investigating ways to help people feel hopeful, inspired and compassionate about political challenges, since these emotions can motivate action without triggering stress and anxiety.

“We want to counteract this pattern where the more involved you are, the worse you are,” Ford said.

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The benefits would be felt across the political spectrum. In the APA survey, similar shares of Democrats, Republicans and independents agreed with statements like, “It causes me stress that politicians aren’t talking about the things that are most important to me,” and, “The political climate has caused strain between my family members and me.”

“Both sides are very invested in this country, and that is a good thing,” Wright said. “Antipathy and hopelessness really doesn’t serve us in the long run.”

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President-elect Donald Trump joined Elon Musk in Texas and watched the launch from a nearby location on Tuesday. While the Starship’s giant booster stage was unable to repeat a “chopsticks” landing, the vehicle’s upper stage successfully splashed down in the Indian Ocean.

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Alameda County child believed to be latest case of bird flu; source unknown

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Alameda County child believed to be latest case of bird flu; source unknown

California health officials reported Tuesday that a child in Alameda County tested positive for H5 bird flu last week.

The source of infection is not known — although health officials are looking into possible contact with wild birds — and the child is recovering at home with mild upper respiratory symptoms.

Health officials have confirmed the “H5” part of the virus, not the “N1.” There is no human “H5” flu; it is only associated with birds.

The child was treated with antiviral medication, and the sample was sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for confirmatory testing.

The initial test showed low levels of the virus and, according to the state health agency, testing four days later showed no virus.

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“The more cases we find that have no known exposure make it difficult to prevent additional” infections, said Jennifer Nuzzo, professor of epidemiology and director of the Brown University School of Public Health’s Pandemic Center. “It worries me greatly that this virus is popping up in more and more places and that we keep being surprised by infections in people whom we wouldn’t think would be at high risk of being exposed to the virus.”

A statement from the California Department of Public Health said that none of the child’s family members have the virus, although they, too, had mild respiratory symptoms. They are also being treated with antiviral medication.

The child attended a day care while displaying symptoms. People the child may have had contact with have been notified and are being offered preventative antiviral medication and testing.

“It’s natural for people to be concerned, and we want to reinforce for parents, caregivers and families that based on the information and data we have, we don’t think the child was infectious — and no human-to-human spread of bird flu has been documented in any country for more than 15 years,” said CDPH Director and State Public Health Officer Dr. Tomás Aragón.

The case comes days after the state health agency announced the discovery of six new bird flu cases, all in dairy workers. The total number of confirmed human cases in California is 27. This new case will bring it to 28, if confirmed. This is the first human case in California that is not associated with the dairy industry.

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The total number of confirmed human cases in the U.S., including the Alameda County child, now stands at 54. Thirty-one are associated with dairy industry, 21 with the poultry industry, and now two with unknown sources.

In Canada, a teenager is in critical condition with the disease. The source of that child’s infection is also unknown.

Genetic sequencing of the Canadian teenager’s virus shows mutations that may make it more efficient at moving between people. The Canadian virus is also a variant of H5N1 that has been associated with migrating wild birds, not cattle.

Genetic sequencing of the California child’s virus has not been released, so it is unclear if it is of wild bird origin, or the one moving through the state’s dairy herds.

In addition, WastewaterScan — an infectious disease monitoring network led by researchers from Stanford University and Emory University, with laboratory support from Verily, Alphabet Inc.’s life sciences organization — follows 28 wastewater sites in California. All but six have shown detectable amounts of H5 in the last couple of weeks.

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There are no monitoring sites in Alameda Co., but positive hits have been found in several Bay Area wastewater districts, including San Francisco, Redwood City, Sunnyvale, San Jose and Napa.

“This just makes the work of protecting people from this virus and preventing it from mutating to cause a pandemic that much harder,” said Nuzzo.

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