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The Secret Hand Behind the Women Who Stood by Cuomo? His Sister.

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The Secret Hand Behind the Women Who Stood by Cuomo? His Sister.

The menacing posts began cropping up on Twitter last September just hours after a former aide to Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York sued him over sexual harassment claims.

The tweets attacked the aide, Charlotte Bennett, in starkly personal terms. “Your life will be dissected like a frog in a HS science class,” read one of the most threatening, which also featured a photo of Ms. Bennett dancing at a bar in lingerie.

The post was part of a thread written by Anna Vavare, a leader of a small but devoted group of mostly older women who banded together online to defend Mr. Cuomo from a cascade of sexual misconduct claims that led to his resignation in August 2021. But it turns out, her tweets had secretly been ordered up by someone even closer to the former governor’s cause: Madeline Cuomo, his sister.

In the hours before the posts went live that morning, Ms. Cuomo exchanged dozens of text messages with Ms. Vavare and another leader of the pro-Cuomo group We Decide New York, Inc., pushing the activists to target Ms. Bennett, one of the first women to accuse Mr. Cuomo of sexual harassment. She appeared to invoke her brother’s wishes.

“Good Morning Just spoke and he thinks a distraction could be helpful today,” Ms. Cuomo wrote in the private texts reviewed by The New York Times. She suggested posting “photos of Charlotte In her sex kitten straddle” taken from Ms. Bennett’s Instagram account, potentially alongside more “austere, professional” ones of loyal Cuomo aides.

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“No respectable woman would EVER pose like that,” Ms. Cuomo added.

She went on: “Bimbo photos.” “Really despicable.” “Unsophisticated girls.”

Far from an isolated episode, the unvarnished exchange is part of a trove of more than 4,000 text messages, emails and voice memos between leaders of the group and Ms. Cuomo shared with The Times this summer. Together, they provide unusual insight into how far members of one of America’s most storied political families were willing to go to rehabilitate a fallen Democratic scion and humiliate those they believed had wronged him.

Made up almost entirely of women inspired by Mr. Cuomo’s handling of the Covid pandemic, We Decide New York rapidly joined forces in spring 2021 to defend an increasingly isolated governor as traditional allies abandoned him. The group swarmed his critics on social media, sold Cuomo swag and pushed for due process.

But four of the group’s current leaders said in interviews that even as their work appeared organic to the outside world, Ms. Cuomo, 58, began privately exerting control. Starting just weeks after the group was formed, she steered its volunteer activists — many in their 50s, 60s and 70s — to prop up her brother and hound his accusers ever more aggressively.

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It is unclear how much Mr. Cuomo knew about his sister’s efforts. He does not appear to have directly communicated with the supporters. But in the messages reviewed by The Times, some of them sprinkled with typos, Ms. Cuomo repeatedly stated that she was keeping her brother updated and acting at his direction.

“I just hung up w A again and he wants you both to know how much he appreciates ALL your hard work,” Ms. Cuomo wrote last September. A few days later: “He’s seeing everything.”


Madeline Cuomo

I just hung up w A again and he wants you both to know how much he appreciates ALL your hard work,
and your willingness to get this out today
on LABOR DAY of all days!!!!!

You ladies share the same work ethic.
I believe we were all raised quite similarly
which accounts for our
like-minded sensibilities

Sandy Behan

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Tell him I couldn’t think of a better way to spend the holiday. We are there for your always whatever you need.?😘💙

Madeline Cuomo

We all wish we didn’t have to go negative ever
but it’s clear they’re never going to stop and leave us alone to do GOOD WORK until THEIR truth is exposed.


Ms. Cuomo was adamant her role be hidden. She repeatedly asked her interlocutors to delete messages. And when a reporter for The Times called some leaders of the group for an earlier article, Ms. Cuomo instructed the women to falsely claim they had no contact with the Cuomos, according to Sandy Behan, the founding president of We Decide.

Ms. Cuomo, in a statement on Monday, acknowledged her involvement with the group, saying she was focused on “protecting my family” but insisted that her brother played no role.

“I acted on my own with the women of WDNY, without his involvement in any way,” she said. Several hours after the article’s publication, she amended her statement to say she had only invoked her brother’s name so the women “felt their efforts were appreciated.”

Mr. Cuomo’s spokesman, Rich Azzopardi, also sought to distance the governor from his sister’s efforts.

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“The governor does not personally have nor does he follow social media accounts, and he was not directly or indirectly involved in these online efforts,” he said. “When he’s had something to say, he has not held back from doing so publicly.”

Ms. Behan, 71, said she and others were awe-struck after being contacted by Ms. Cuomo and were eager to help her with what they believed was a shared — if sometimes unsavory — mission. But by late last year, the relationship had imploded around a proposed documentary project and Ms. Cuomo’s intensifying demands.

Ms. Behan said the bitter recriminations nearly destroyed her group and its reputation. It also shook her confidence in the Cuomo family she had once revered.

“Madeline was demanding. She wanted to make sure we toed the line, and we did,” she said. “This was a means for her to get information out to benefit her brother. She didn’t want to be my girlfriend — she was using us.”

From the first days she reached out in May 2021, when Andrew Cuomo still hoped he could fend off his accusers and stay in office, Madeline Cuomo made clear she knew the potential value of what she was doing — and the peril.

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A lawyer and the youngest daughter of former Gov. Mario Cuomo, Ms. Cuomo had spent her life in political circles quietly supporting the political ambitions of her more famous family members and wanted to keep it that way. “Family has always been the most important thing in my life,” she told The Times for a 1993 Vows column.

But the legal jeopardy surrounding her brother made her preference for discretion even more critical. Chris Cuomo, the youngest sibling, lost his job as an anchor at CNN after the extent of his involvement in the governor’s affairs became public.

“It’s not that I’m doing anything wrong,” Ms. Cuomo wrote to Ms. Behan in June 2021, just weeks into their correspondence. “This has all been exasperatingly unfair. But anything we are associated with will lose efficacy because they will say we put you up to it.”

The messages show that Ms. Cuomo went on to propose that she could feed information and advice to We Decide New York so its dozens of members could call out “one-sided” media accounts and dig into “the facts” about accusers like Ms. Bennett, who said the governor asked intrusive questions about her sex life, and Lindsey Boylan, the first former aide to accuse Mr. Cuomo of sexual harassment.

Ms. Behan, a retired advertising executive from Rochester, N.Y., was giddy in those early days. Like other ardent Cuomo supporters, she had formed a deep loyalty to the governor during the darkest days of the pandemic, when his daily news conferences were appointment viewing. Now, they suspected he was being railroaded.

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“I just talked to the Madeline Cuomo,” Ms. Behan remembered telling her husband in disbelief when the women first connected. “My first thought was she is going to help us grow this organization, help us do what we want to do for the governor.”

In her statement on Monday, Ms. Cuomo said that she initially contacted the group to urge members not to make “ill-advised” attacks on the governor’s accusers in his name. “I explained to them that there was a difference between calling into question a person’s credibility and attacking them publicly,” she said.

Ms. Behan disputed that account, and produced text messages showing Ms. Cuomo introducing herself and then demanding that Ms. Behan remove a journalist from another pro-Cuomo Facebook group that she helped moderate.

Still, the tone was amicable at first. Though Ms. Cuomo took no formal role in the group, she fed talking points when reporters came calling and quietly helped coordinate a sparsely attended rally for her brother in the days before he quit, even signing off on poster designs. “Please advise as to what you want us to do ASAP,” Ms. Behan texted Ms. Cuomo on the eve of Mr. Cuomo’s resignation announcement.

After Mr. Cuomo resigned, the women were lost. When they asked Ms. Cuomo for “some direction” to keep up the cause, she could offer none at first. But as summer of 2021 turned to fall, she took a keen interest in the group’s work soliciting voters’ views about what happened to Mr. Cuomo, and soon began communicating regularly about a growing effort to rehabilitate his image.

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By March 2022, Mr. Cuomo was publicly toying with a comeback bid, taking out television ads declaring himself exonerated, granting occasional media interviews and speaking publicly about “cancel culture.” Ms. Cuomo put We Decide New York on notice for a possible campaign and asked Ms. Behan to help line up women who could build a groundswell.

The monthslong grind even wore on Ms. Cuomo, who confided in early March that her brother was “very difficult to work with.”

Madeline Cerise Cuomo, 19, was New York State’s representative at an international debutante ball in 1983, escorted by her brother Andrew.Credit…Richard Drew/Associated Press

“He also never admits vulnerability or expresses gratitude — or at least very rarely do you see that side of Andrew,” she wrote in an email from her AOL account. “This nightmare has not only affected him but rather my entire family, and it would be nice to hear him say he gets it.”

In May, as chances of Mr. Cuomo running faded, their focus turned to undermining his former lieutenant, Gov. Kathy Hochul, who had succeeded him. Ms. Cuomo, who clearly loathed Ms. Hochul, helped coordinate a meeting between Ms. Behan and Representative Tom Suozzi, a Democrat challenging the new governor.

Days later, she encouraged Ms. Behan to sharpen her criticisms of Ms. Hochul in a letter that We Decide New York was drafting to chastise Hazel Dukes, the head of the New York State N.A.A.C.P., for backing Ms. Hochul.

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Ms. Cuomo suggested adding “something to the effect of: From the time KH feebly took the reigns she has steered this ship out of control.” The critique went on, with Ms. Cuomo accusing Ms. Hochul of “selectively coveting his accomplishments as her own.”

When Chris Cuomo filed an arbitration demand against CNN that spring, his sister asked the group to buck him up, too. “Let’s show some love,” she wrote.

A heroic photo of Chris Cuomo quickly appeared on the group’s Twitter page, along with a hashtag: #BringBackChrisCuomo.

By last August, Ms. Cuomo had refocused on her brother’s accusers, sometimes sending dozens of texts and voice memos a day with marching orders that veered beyond fact-based defenses.

“KH and LB need to be frightened into shutting up right now — Enough is enough,” she wrote in August, referring to Ms. Boylan and Karen Hinton, a Democratic public relations specialist who once worked for Mr. Cuomo in Washington in the Clinton administration. .

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The uptick in activity seemed tied as much to Mr. Cuomo’s evolving career prospects as to the lawsuit brought by Ms. Bennett. Ms. Cuomo told Ms. Behan that he would soon be launching a new podcast, and his accusers “need to know now that they can’t be attacking when he comes out.”

She appeared particularly preoccupied by Ms. Hinton, who accused Mr. Cuomo of initiating an unsolicited “intimate embrace” in a hotel room decades earlier, before he was governor. In an August email, Ms. Cuomo wrote that Ms. Hinton and Ms. Boylan were hypocritical to complain about inappropriate workplace behavior given episodes she claimed happened in their own lives. “PLEASE,” she added.

She followed up the next day warning her correspondents, “Please delete and don’t share — Put in your own words first,” then persisted days later in knocking Ms. Hinton, this time in a list-like text.

“Unauthentic

Uninspired

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Unkind

Ugly motives

Underhanded

Gender descriminatong

Home wrecker

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Basically,

Uuuuuuugh.”

The group posted to its Twitter page a few hours later repeating most of the text as if it was its own, and produced a video splicing clips of Ms. Hinton to make her look untrustworthy.

At one point, Ms. Cuomo requested a post focusing on Ms. Hinton’s husband’s departure from the Cuomo administration, adding, “Andrew is asking.”

Ms. Behan and Valerie Skarbek, another We Decide New York co-founder from Illinois, said they could never be certain the extent to which Mr. Cuomo — who was notorious for micromanaging his public image — was involved in his sister’s requests. But the group usually complied.

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Ms. Cuomo even discussed possible attack lines against an unnamed state trooper who accused Mr. Cuomo of having touched her inappropriately when she was a member of his protective detail.

“I think we should use current sentiment around police and authority in our favor” to undercut the trooper’s credibility, Ms. Cuomo wrote by email. “Her motivations need to be considered as well. This is a woman with real financial insecurity.”


From: Madeline Cuomo
Subject: Re:
Date: August 30, 2022 at 11:24 AM


I think we should use current sentiment around police and authority in our favor and reply by saying something to the effect that her being a member of the force does not in any way mean she is infallible, and her motivations need to be considered as well.

This is a woman with real financial insecurity. I believe her husband’s out of work— and she had other expenses and needs the money. (easy enough to google articles)


Ms. Bennett’s lawyer, Debra Katz, called Ms. Cuomo’s role “shocking but not surprising” and said she would seek to depose her and other potential witnesses in her client’s lawsuit against the former governor.

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“The governor clearly relied on family members and friends to try to smear and intimidate women who came forward,” she said, adding that the photo of Ms. Bennett in lingerie was taken at a private party where guests were urged: “Come as your most outrageous self!”

The tactics began to make Ms. Behan uneasy. “Even a slut has right to not be sexually harassed,” she wrote by text the September morning Ms. Cuomo wanted to circulate photos of Ms. Bennett online after she filed suit.

Ms. Cuomo suggested workarounds, but by then a rift had already begun to open that would swiftly turn the longtime allies into bitter enemies.

The first, imperceptible fissures had started forming months earlier, when a filmmaker, Adam Friedman, approached We Decide New York for help raising money for a feature-length documentary on Mr. Cuomo.

Ms. Behan and her board loved the idea, and the group began pouring dozens of hours a week into the project, which they hoped would help Mr. Cuomo tell his side of the story. Ms. Behan thought she also had the blessing of Ms. Cuomo, who edited fund-raising letters for the film project and coached the women through interactions with the governor’s team, records show.

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But by last fall, Ms. Behan and several of her board members began to fear that the Cuomos were toying with them. The governor’s top aides demanded to see budgets, won guarantees of editorial oversight and, after extensive nagging, agreed Mr. Cuomo would sit for an interview — but then never actually made the former governor available.

Frustration boiled over last September, and the response was unsettling. Florence Jones, a Sept. 11 survivor on We Decide New York’s board from Long Island, sounded off on Ms. Cuomo by email, telling her to allow “A GROWN MAN” to “HANDLE THIS W/O HIS SISTER BEING INVOLVED.”

Ms. Cuomo was livid, demanding an apology — or else she would cut off the group and the film it was so invested in. “Whether she likes it or not,” Ms. Cuomo told Ms. Behan in a voice memo, “without me, there would have been no we.”

To Ms. Behan, the behavior felt like bullying, and the pattern repeated itself when Ms. Vavare unexpectedly resigned from We Decide New York’s leadership team, citing exhaustion and a dust-up over who controlled passwords to the group’s social media accounts. Ms. Behan said she was blindsided by the decision, but Ms. Cuomo blamed her and sent repeated messages insisting that she bring Ms. Vavare, who lived in Canada, back into the fold or lose her patron.

Ms. Behan and allies like Ms. Skarbek and Christine Fritz, 60, said they labored for weeks to appease Ms. Cuomo. When Ms. Behan’s family members fell ill with Covid and Ms. Behan said she would have to temporarily step away, Ms. Cuomo told her “Covid is not what it was” and moved to cut off the documentary.

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Things rapidly unraveled. The board accepted Ms. Vavare’s resignation. Mr. Friedman was so fed up he confided in the women that he was contemplating suing the Cuomos. Then Ms. Cuomo found out and proceeded to trash the filmmaker and Ms. Behan directly to their members, accusing the pair of shady financial dealings and inappropriately pocketing documentary money.

Former friends, including Ms. Vavare, began to demand donations back and used social media to repeat increasingly twisted versions of Ms. Cuomo’s claims. When Ms. Behan tried to defend herself and disprove the statements as recently as May, Ms. Cuomo warned her by text not to do something “you will have to pay for deeply.” And while the group did eventually threaten legal action, it could not afford to follow through.

Both Mr. Azzopardi and Ms. Cuomo acknowledged that the former governor had been made aware of the group’s documentary project, but had decided not to pursue it. Ms. Cuomo said it was the “only time I discussed the organization with him.”

It all took a toll: Ms. Behan said she developed shingles from stress; Ms. Jones, 62, said her hair began falling out. Their group all but collapsed.

Ms. Behan said the experience also forced her to re-evaluate. She conceded she had been naïve about the documentary project, but maintains she had made nothing off it, sharing bank records to back up her claim. She said she “made assumptions that may not have been accurate” about Mr. Cuomo’s accusers, too, and believes that her real transgression came when she stopped meeting Ms. Cuomo’s demands.

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“We were victims in this thing. We were derailed by Madeline,” she said. “I do feel bad about not getting people their money back, but it was out of our control.”

Ms. Vavare did not respond to requests for comment.

Mr. Friedman, who was paid $50,000 raised by We Decide New York for his preliminary work, declined to comment.

For her part, Ms. Skarbek, 49, said that close contact with the Cuomos had rearranged her views on the man she set out to fight for.

“It’s amazing to me how I saw Gov. Cuomo when I started this organization and how I see him now and judge his innocence,” she said. “You start an organization to support someone, and by the end you don’t really support them at all.”

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Kirsten Noyes contributed research.

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Video: How a Mexican Navy Ship Crashed Into the Brooklyn Bridge

On Saturday, a Mexican Navy ship on a good will tour left a New York City pier bound for Iceland. Four minutes later, it crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge. [Spanish] “It’s falling!” [English] “No way!” Here’s what happened. The Cuauhtémoc had been docked on the Lower East Side of Manhattan for four days, open to visitors looking for a cultural experience. As the ship prepared to leave on Saturday night, a tugboat arrived to escort it out of its pier at 8:20 p.m. The ship’s bow, the front of the vessel, faced Manhattan, meaning it would need to back out of its berth into the East River. As the Cuauhtémoc pulled away from shore, the tugboat appeared to push the side of the ship, helping to pivot the bow south toward its intended route. The river was flowing northeast toward the Brooklyn Bridge and the wind was blowing in roughly the same direction, potentially pushing the ship toward a collision. Photos and videos suggest the tugboat was not tied to the ship, limiting its ability to pull the ship away from the bridge. The Cuauhtémoc began to drift north, back first, up the river. Dr. Salvatore Mercogliano, who’s an adjunct professor at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, told The Times that the ship appeared to be giving off a wake. This suggests its propellers may have been running in reverse, pushing it faster toward the bridge. The tugboat sped alongside the ship as it headed north, possibly trying to get in front of it and help the ship maneuver the other way. But it was unable to cut the ship off or reverse its course. All three masts crashed into the underside of the Brooklyn Bridge at approximately 8:24 p.m., four minutes after the ship had left the pier, causing the top sails to collapse. Crew members standing on the masts during the collision were thrown off entirely. Others remained hanging from their harnesses. A New York City patrol boat arrived about eight minutes after the collision, followed quickly by a fire department boat. Additional law enforcement and emergency medical services removed the wounded for treatment. According to the Mexican Navy, two of the 227 people aboard the ship were killed and 22 others were injured.

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Audio Data Shows Newark Outage Problems Persisted Longer Than Officials Said

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Audio Data Shows Newark Outage Problems Persisted Longer Than Officials Said

On April 28, controllers at a Philadelphia facility managing air traffic for Newark Liberty International Airport and smaller regional airports in New Jersey suddenly lost radar and radio contact with planes in one of the busiest airspaces in the country.

On Monday, two weeks after the episode, Sean Duffy, the secretary of transportation, said that the radio returned “almost immediately,” while the radar took up to 90 seconds before it was operational.

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A Times analysis of flight traffic data and air traffic control feed, however, reveals that controllers were struggling with communication issues for several minutes after transmissions first blacked out.

The episode resulted in multiple air traffic controllers requesting trauma leave, triggering severe flight delays at Newark that have continued for more than two weeks.

Several exchanges between pilots and controllers show how the outage played out.

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Outage Begins

Air traffic recordings show that controllers at the Philadelphia facility first lost radio and radar communications for about a minute starting just before 1:27 p.m., after a controller called out to United Flight 1951, inbound from Phoenix.

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The pilot of United 1951 replied to the controller’s call, but there was no answer for over a minute.

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Two other planes reached out during the same period as United 1951 — a Boeing 777 inbound from Austria and headed to Newark, and a plane whose pilot called out to a controller, “Approach, are you there?” Their calls went unanswered as well.

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Radio Resumes, With Unreliable Radar

From 1:27 to 1:28 p.m., radio communications between pilots and controllers resumed. But soon after, a controller was heard telling multiple aircraft about an ongoing radar outage that was preventing controllers from seeing aircraft on their radarscopes.

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One of the planes affected by the radar issues was United Flight 674, a commercial passenger jet headed from Charleston to Newark.

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Once the radio started operating again, some controllers switched from directing flights along their planned paths to instead providing contingency flight instructions.

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At 1:28 p.m., the pilot of Flight N16NF, a high-end private jet, was called by a controller who said, “radar contact lost.” The pilot was then told to contact a different controller on another radio frequency.

About two and a half minutes later, the new controller, whose radar did appear to be functioning, instructed the pilot to steer towards a location that would be clear of other aircraft in case the radio communications dropped again.

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Flight N426CB, a small private jet flying from Florida to New Jersey, was told to call a different radio frequency at Essex County Airport, known as Caldwell Airport, in northern New Jersey for navigational aid. That was in case the controllers in Philadelphia lost radio communications again.

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Minutes Later, Radar Issues Persist

According to the Federal Aviation Administration, aircraft reappeared on radarscopes within 90 seconds of the outage’s start, but analysis of air traffic control recordings suggest that the radar remained unreliable for at least some radio frequencies for several minutes after the outage began around 1:27 p.m.

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At 1:32 p.m., six minutes after the radio went quiet, Flight N824TP, a small private plane, contacted the controller to request clearance to enter “Class B” airspace — the type around the busiest airports in the country. The request was denied, and the pilot was asked to contact a different radio frequency.

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1:32:43 PM

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Pilot

Do I have Bravo clearance?

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1:32:48 PM

Controller

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You do not have a Bravo clearance. We lost our radar, and it’s not working correctly. …

If you want a Bravo clearance, you can just call the tower when you get closer.

1:32:59 PM

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Pilot

I’ll wait for that frequency from you, OK?

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1:33:03 PM

Controller

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Look up the tower frequencies, and we don’t have a radar, so I don’t know where you are.

The last flight to land at Newark was at 1:44 p.m., but about half an hour after the outage began, a controller was still reporting communication problems.

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“You’ll have to do that on your own navigation. Our radar and radios are unreliable at the moment,” a Philadelphia controller said to a small aircraft flying from Long Island around 1:54 p.m.

Since April 28, there has been an additional radar outage on May 9, which the F.A.A. also characterized as lasting about 90 seconds. Secretary Duffy has proposed a plan to modernize equipment in the coming months, but the shortage of trained staff members is likely to persist into next year.

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Two Men’s Fight to Protect the Geese at the Central Park Reservoir

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Two Men’s Fight to Protect the Geese at the Central Park Reservoir

Whether goslings live or die at the Central Park Reservoir could be up to two 70-something, nature-loving men who first crossed paths there this winter.

Edward Dorson, a wildlife photographer and regular visitor to the reservoir, learned in 2021 that federal workers were destroying the eggs of Canada geese there as part of a government safety program to decrease bird collisions with airplanes. He tried to stop it.

He reached out to animal rights organizations and wrote letters to various government agencies. He got nowhere.

Then in December, he met Larry Schnapf, a tough-talking environmental lawyer, who spotted Mr. Dorson admiring the birds and introduced himself. Mr. Dorson told him about the nest destruction. Mr. Schnapf, in his 40-year legal career, had mostly focused on redeveloping contaminated properties but had picked up the occasional pro bono passion project. “I told him I take on quixotic pursuits,” Mr. Schnapf said.

Now, they are teaming up to protect the eggs of a small population of Canada geese that nest around the reservoir, a popular attraction for joggers and bird watchers. The battle will undoubtedly be uphill: They are lobbying multiple government agencies during a fraught time in aviation where bird strikes are one of many concerns, on behalf of a bird often described as a nuisance because of its honking cries and the droppings it leaves on lawns, parks and golf courses.

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The men say they appreciate the importance of protecting planes. But they are seeking to exempt the Central Park Reservoir from the egg destruction program so that it can serve as a sanctuary for the nesting geese. They argue that Central Park is far enough from the area’s airports that the geese do not pose a major problem.

Mr. Schnapf said he plans to send a cease-and-desist letter to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which oversees five major airports in the region, including Kennedy International Airport, Newark Liberty International Airport and LaGuardia Airport. The agency works with an arm of the U.S. Department of Agriculture on the safety program. “I think this is all unlawful,” he said. “These are protected animals.”

Port Authority officials did not comment on the advocacy plans of the two men. But they stressed that government efforts like those underway in Central Park were part of creating safer conditions for air travel.

“Managing wildlife risks — especially from resident Canada geese — near our airports is a life safety imperative and essential to maintaining safe operations,” said Laura Francoeur, the Port Authority’s chief wildlife biologist.

Although Canada geese are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, authorities have obtained a waiver to control the population. The birds, which can weigh as much as 19 pounds and have a wingspan up to 5.5 feet, according to the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, can get sucked into plane engines and bring an aircraft down.

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Between 2008 and 2023, there were 451 aviation accidents involving commercial aircraft in the United States, with a total of 17 caused by bird strikes, producing five injuries and no fatalities, according to the National Transportation Safety Board.

New York City tightened its grip on Canada geese in 2009, after a collision with a flock caused US Airways Flight 1549, piloted by Chesley B. Sullenberger III, to lose both its engines shortly after it took off from LaGuardia. The plane was forced into an emergency water landing in what is now commonly known as the “miracle on the Hudson.”

The event prompted the Port Authority to ask the Department of Agriculture for help. In 2010, federal wildlife workers took on the management of Canada geese populations within seven miles of the city’s major airports, including in city parks.

Mr. Schnapf calls the current rules an overreach, since Federal Aviation Administration guidelines call for wildlife management only within five miles of airports. A Port Authority spokeswoman said the agency honors all federal regulations, including addressing wildlife hazards within five miles of airports. But she added that the agency will often go beyond that radius when specific threats arise.

Data from the F.A.A. shows that Canada geese strikes at LaGuardia and Kennedy Airports have remained consistent over the last two decades, with between zero and four instances per year.

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Canada geese thrive in people-friendly landscapes, and their population has boomed throughout North America over the last four decades. Many geese have become so comfortable in parks and other green spaces, like the reservoir, that they have stopped migrating, becoming year-round residents.

There are about 228,000 resident Canada geese in New York State, up from 150,000 in 2002. The state’s Department of Environmental Conservation would like to see that number shrink to 85,000.

The two men fighting for the Central Park Reservoir’s resident geese were both born in the Bronx, are similar in age and diet (one is a vegetarian, the other a vegan). But the similarities more or less end there.

Mr. Dorson, 77, an accomplished underwater photographer and conservationist with a background in the arts, is a soft-spoken lover of hard-to-love animals — he helped start a shark sanctuary in Palau, in Micronesia. Mr. Schnapf, 72, is a fast-talking, fast-acting networker who is not afraid to make noise.

“I told Ed,” he said, “you’ve got to rattle the bureaucracy.”

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Mr. Dorson and Mr. Schnapf are hoping to meet with officials from the Port Authority, the Central Park Conservancy and the city’s Department of Environmental Protection, which oversees the reservoir, among other decision makers.

”All we’re trying to do is get them to talk to us, so we can come up with a plan so at least some of those eggs can be hatched,” Mr. Schnapf said.

Mr. Dorson admitted that, right now, “I don’t see too many people like me who are worried about the geese.”

“But maybe 10 years from now, when there are no geese here, then people might feel the loss,” he said. “I’d like to change that.”

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