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How Badly Do Audiences and Critics Really Disagree on Movies?

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There’s all the time been a divide between audiences and critics on the subject of film opinions, however may 2022 mark the most important cut up between critics and followers but? Because of the web and the rise of evaluate aggregators and viewers evaluate scoring techniques like Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic, and IMDB, opinions of audiences and critics are actually distilled all the way down to easy averages and pitted towards one another.


A variety of high-profile films and reveals have drawn starkly totally different reactions from audiences and critics lately, drawing consideration to the divide between the way in which the 2 teams consider films and TV reveals. Evaluate knowledge from Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic, and IMDB observe opinion between audiences and critics and are generally used to counsel disagrements between critics and audiences are getting worse, however how dependable is that knowledge, and is that what the numbers really imply?

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Whereas it is clear there’s a divide between critics and audiences, and interactions between the 2 teams on social media could be fraught when these conditions come up, it is not completely clear if the info actually signifies a widening hole, or if the info itself is even dependable sufficient for use on this manner. Looking on the manner audiences and critics evaluate films, we’ll consider precisely what this knowledge means and the way it impacts our perceptions of film opinions.


Audiences and Critic Film Evaluate Information Signify Totally different Issues

First, it is essential to notice that viewers evaluate knowledge and critic evaluate knowledge do not really characterize the identical factor. The method for a critic to get permitted by Rotten Tomatoes includes establishing a big physique of labor and publication by a good publication. For every evaluate submission, the critic wants to put in writing a full evaluate for his or her publication after which present the particular rating data to Rotten Tomatoes so it may be compiled as part of the bigger rating. In the meantime, to submit an viewers evaluate, somebody merely must register with an e mail tackle and click on a on a star rely to submit their ranking.

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The benefit of submission means Rotten Tomatoes viewers opinions can typically be a easy star rating with no additional textual content to elaborate, making it simple for opinionated viewers members to shortly submit a zero-star or five-star evaluate meant to govern the general rating greater than precisely replicate any sort of nuanced analysis. No matter any distinction within the validity of the subjective opinions of the viewers in comparison with the subjective opinions of the critics, variations in conduct between every group, mixed with completely totally different evaluate submission processes means viewers evaluate knowledge and critic evaluate knowledge characterize various things and due to this fact aren’t very straight comparable.

Viewers Evaluate Information is Extremely Flawed

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Not solely are viewers opinions and Rotten Tomatoes critic opinions drastically totally different knowledge units, however loads of viewers evaluate knowledge can be extremely flawed. Whereas critic evaluate knowledge has its personal issues, the truth that submissions are solely accepted from permitted critics and the evaluate scores are all derived from opinions written for publications the place the critic has knowledgeable obligation to show in high quality work means we are able to assume the info precisely displays the evaluate conduct of permitted critics. After all, all opinions are subjective, so knowledge about crucial opinions would not say as a lot concerning the films being reviewed because it does concerning the conduct of the reviewers themselves.

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In the case of viewers evaluate knowledge, issues get actually messy. Even when we assume loads of viewers members are astute and articulate reviewers, and a few could even be professionals who merely have not but been permitted by Rotten Tomatoes or the evaluate aggregator in query but, however that turns into irrelevant as quickly as these opinions are put in the identical bucket as disgruntled followers, overly enthusiastic followers, trolls, informal viewers, and and many others. That is to not say all viewers opinions are unhealthy, but when a bucket of apples is claimed to incorporate an indeterminate variety of rotten apples, then the worth of your complete bucket is compromised if there isn’t any strategy to separate the unhealthy apples again out.

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It might be one factor to measure viewers knowledge towards itself over time to ascertain traits and modifications in no matter precisely is represented by the collective viewers consciousness, however it’s one other factor completely to measure it towards critic knowledge that’s collected and validated with a completely totally different course of.

Disagreement Between Critics and Audiences Are Extra Seen Than Ever Because of the Web

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Whereas it is actually true that there is a distinction in opinion between audiences and critics, we won’t pretty use the info out there to find out if that cut up is getting higher or worse; nevertheless, we are able to say the cut up is turning into extra seen. 30 years in the past, it will be arduous to show if audiences and critics disagreed aside from by measuring field workplace efficiency. If an viewers member disagreed with a critic, their finest strategy to specific it to a bigger viewers can be to put in writing a letter to the editor of the publication in query with no assure of it really getting printed. Now, due to the web, audiences can publish their opinions, too. The rise of social media additionally makes it simpler than ever for viewers members to precise their disagreement with critics.

This does not show there’s extra disagreement, it simply means it is extra seen than ever because the critics are not the one ones with entry to a public platform. The shortage of unpolluted viewers knowledge means we won’t say if audiences are literally getting extra optimistic or extra unfavourable about films, however we are able to actually say they’re getting extra vocal. In the identical manner a evaluate bomb cannot be mentioned to replicate viewers sentiment of the standard of a film or present, it may undoubtedly be used as an indicator of viewers ardour or funding.

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Giving viewers opinions the identical degree of certification as critic opinions can be a particularly cumbersome course of, and would additionally basically change the character of the info being collected. If somebody needed to undergo the identical degree of rigor as critics to get their opinions submitted to platforms like Rotten Tomatoes, then the character of the info being collected basically modifications. It could weed out trolls and evaluate bombs, however it successfully creates one other set of critic knowledge and cannot be mentioned to be consultant of a bigger viewers consensus.

As a substitute of measuring critic evaluate knowledge towards viewers evaluate knowledge, one of the simplest ways to check division between critics and audiences can be by field workplace numbers and viewership metrics. Critic opinions and viewers opinions may very well be in excellent alignment, but when the viewers is not really exhibiting as much as watch it, then does the viewers evaluate knowledge really replicate viewers sentiment? Utilizing viewership knowledge as a substitute of viewers evaluate knowledge could have its personal explicit flaws, however there’s fewer inquiries to its legitimacy, and it supplies the clearest reply to the basic query all opinions attempt to attain: “does anybody wish to watch this?”

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Joker 2 Is So Bad It’s Almost Laughable

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Joker 2 Is So Bad It’s Almost Laughable

In 2019, a year now separated from us by enough catastrophic global events to feel like a remote archaeological era, the movie Joker, like it or not (I certainly didn’t), was a big deal. It won the Golden Lion at the Venice Film Festival and later garnered a leading 11 Oscar nominations, including Best Picture, with star Joaquin Phoenix eventually winning Best Actor for his performance as a mentally ill would-be stand-up comic turned murderous clown. The movie also became the subject of heated discussion and not a little hand-wringing. Would its portrait of the comic-book villain as the lonely, misunderstood victim of mistreatment by a vaguely defined “society” inspire copycat acts of mayhem? Joker may have teetered uneasily in the balance between critiquing incel violence and being a commercial for it, but thankfully its many admirers kept their enthusiasm contained to the box office, where the film raked in over a billion dollars worldwide, shattering the all-time record for an R-rated movie.

Five years later, Joker’s director and co-writer Todd Phillips has returned with a sequel that swerves in an unseen—and on paper, intriguing—new direction: Our miserable antihero has become, of all things, the singing, dancing protagonist in his own private musical. A lot of things could be said about Phillips’ execution of that idea, most of them deservedly negative. By any reasonable measure this is a terrible movie, too long and too self-serious and way too dramatically inert, a regrettable waste of its lead actors’ boundless commitment to even their most thinly written roles. But no one could accuse Joker: Folie à Deux of being a mere cash grab, lazily recycling its predecessor’s mood, themes, or plot structure.

There’s an admirable boldness to Phillips’ decision to cast a pop supernova like Lady Gaga opposite the darkly charismatic Phoenix, then ask them both to sing, live-to-film, a jukebox-musical soundtrack of more than a dozen well-known songs that range from 1940s Broadway standards (“Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered,” from Pal Joey) to 1970s easy-listening pop (the Carpenters’ “Close to You”). Granted, the director fails to clear the bar he sets for himself—fails hard enough, at times, to scrape the skin off his legs from knee to ankle—but it’s fair to say that this movie’s problems have little if anything to do with the attempted magic trick of its premise. It’s mainly the weirdness of that trick, and the stars’ doomed dedication to pulling it off, that renders Joker: Folie à Deux even minimally watchable.

Joker ended with Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck locked up in a mental institution but seemingly on the verge of escaping to start his career as Batman’s archnemesis. Instead, Folie à Deux finds Arthur still locked up in Gotham City’s inhumane Arkham State Hospital. Having been judged competent in a sanity hearing, Arthur is about to go on trial for the murders of five people, one of them on live television. (As he confesses to more people than he probably should, the number is really six if you include his mother.) Outside the institution’s grimy walls, he has become a folk hero to a certain set of clown-mask-sporting nihilists and a tabloid bogeyman to the public at large. But inside the hospital, Arthur remains a pitiable loser, mocked by his fellow inmates and singled out for alternately friendly and cruel treatment by an Irish prison guard (Brendan Gleeson).

Phillips’ desire to mess with the audience’s genre expectations is evident from the jump. The first thing the audience sees, after a vintage WB logo, is a cartoon short entitled “Me and My Shadow,” animated by the Triplets of Belleville filmmaker Sylvain Chomet in a style reminiscent of classic Looney Tunes. In it, Arthur’s shadow self emerges from his body to commit crimes that the real man is then blamed for. The plot of the cartoon is a literalization of the defense that his sympathetic lawyer (Catherine Keener) will later use in court: Arthur, she believes, is the victim of dissociative identity disorder, a former abused child who’s made up the Joker character as a way to vent his otherwise inaccessible rage. It’s not clear whether the movie wants us to agree with her assessment or with that of Gotham assistant district attorney Harvey Dent (Industry’s Harry Lawtey), who thinks Arthur is merely a sociopath faking mental illness in order to escape the consequences he deserves.

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Meanwhile, Lee Quinzel (Gaga), an arsonist serving time in Arkham’s minimum-security wing, has a very different vision of the Joker: She’s a groupie, having followed his crime spree in the news and obsessively rewatched a TV biopic about him. (Even fans who haven’t consumed the aggressive marketing won’t take long to recognize her as the future Harley Quinn.) When they’re put in the same music-therapy group—a place where cheery sing-alongs are touted as a wholesome counterpoint to the grimness of asylum life—Lee and Arthur bond instantly and soon develop their own more twisted motives for bursting into song. When they’re together, or apart and thinking of each other, their internal monologues bubble to the surface as ready-made classics of the American songbook. This despite the fact that Lee, for her part, seems not to be a big fan of the musical genre. When the asylum shows the MGM classic The Band Wagon on movie night, Lee gets so bored she sets fire to the rec-room piano. Not liking The Band Wagon should surely serve as a red flag for any prospective suitor, but Lee redeems her taste later on, when the by-then-besotted couple belts out a cover of that musical’s most enduring number, “That’s Entertainment.”

Joker: Folie à Deux is hardly the first musical to posit the idea of its song-and-dance sequences as the emanations of a delusional mind, but it must be among the ones that hammer hardest on that conceit. In scene after scene, often with hardly a break for dialogue in between, either Lee, Arthur, or both in unison will channel the intensity of an emotional moment by delivering a breathy version of some beloved pop hit or other. Invisible string orchestras may swoop in to accompany these flights of fancy, just as they would in a Hollywood musical, but the secondary characters never join in and seldom seem to notice that a serenade is taking place. With rare exceptions (like the rock-’em-sock-’em Gaga cover of “That’s Life” that plays under the closing credits), most of the vocal performances in Folie à Deux are purposely underwhelming in terms of virtuosity: They’re husky, scratchy, and in Phoenix’s case often half-spoken, suited more for a tipsy karaoke night than for the Broadway stage.

Gaga has pointed out in interviews that neither her nor Phoenix’s character is a professional entertainer, so why should they sing like one? It’s a reasonable point, as is a less polite one she doesn’t make: that if she sang full-out instead of curbing her usual vocal splendor, the contrast would place Phoenix’s adequate but limited baritone in unflattering relief. But what makes the songs, irresistible toe-tappers all, start to blur into a drab wall of sound has less to do with the performance quality than with the nonstop onslaught of musical numbers and the sluggishness of the story in between. Other than the building of internal emotion to the point that it must express itself in song—over and over and over—precious little happens in Folie à Deux. Arthur is declared fit to stand trial, goes to court, and is marched back by the cruel guards each night to the bleakness of his cell. A few familiar characters from the first Joker, including Zazie Beetz as Arthur’s former neighbor, show up to take the stand, and at one point a horrific act of violence interrupts the proceedings. But the forward motion of the story is so minimal, and so broken up by long stretches of musical stasis, that the result barely feels like a movie. It’s more like a work of Joker fanfic, created not just by the credited screenwriters (Phillips and Scott Silver, who also co-wrote the 2019 film) but by Phoenix and Gaga themselves in what was apparently a collaborative project to revise the script in real time during the shoot.

The fact that Folie à Deux has the self-referential quality of fanfic does not necessarily mean it will go down well with actual Joker fans, who seem likely to come out scratching their heads over a sequel about a comic-book supervillain that contains virtually no fight scenes, a single car chase that ends roughly a minute after it begins, and scarcely a moment that could be classified as suspenseful. The main question to be answered by the viewer is not “What will happen next?” but “Is all this taking place in the real world, or just inside their heads?”—an epistemological puzzle that is not enough in itself to sustain our energy for nearly two hours and 20 minutes. Even more confoundingly, all this time spent locked in the psyches of two deeply disturbed characters gives us little insight into their motivations. The pathetic Arthur Fleck remains, as I called him in my review of the 2019 movie, a “poor little clownsie-wownsie,” while Gaga’s Lee is so underwritten we remain unsure to the end whether she is a vulnerable fangirl or a heartless femme fatale. If he is, as the lyric from “That’s Entertainment” goes, “the clown with his pants falling down,” does that make her simply “the skirt who is doing him dirt”? To make Gaga’s character little more than a mirror that reflects the Joker back to himself (in alternately flattering and unflattering ways) is a real squandering of this powerhouse performer, whose life experience as a stadium-filling superstar has given her no shortage of insight into the psychology of fame monsters.

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Without spoiling the ending, it’s safe to say that with it, Phillips seems to foreclose the likelihood that anyone will be begging for more. That’s probably a blessing for both the filmmaker and us, since this somber, muddled, maudlin film seems to have been made by someone who holds his characters and his audience in contempt.

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Without Gore or Violence, This Serial-Killer Thriller Creeps Into Your Soul

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Laurie Babin and Juliette Gariépy in Red Rooms.
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There are no real red rooms in Canadian director Pascal Plante’s unnerving thriller Red Rooms. Mostly a lot of white, gray, blank ones — from the bare and futuristically antiseptic courtroom where a grisly trial is taking place, to the minimalist high-rise Montreal apartment where the film’s protagonist lives, to the squash courts where she takes out her anger. The title refers to the horrific, blood-soaked dungeons where, it is alleged, the serial killer on trial — Ludovic Chevalier, also known as “the Demon of Rosemont” and played wordlessly by Maxwell McCabe-Lokos with saucer-eyed, predatory calm — mutilated his teenage victims while livestreaming the slaughter for money. We do witness distant flashes of such a room at one point, but the idea mostly looms over the film like an unseen dimension, a psychotic alternate reality beneath and beyond the eerie, empty drabness of modern life.

Plante’s interest lies not so much in the criminal or his victims but on the people obsessed with him. The film (which is now available on demand and playing in select theaters) follows Kelly-Anne (Juliette Gariépy), a statuesque and mostly expressionless professional model who gets in line early every night to get into the small courtroom in the morning. Deep into the world of the dark web, Kelly-Anne spends much of her time playing online poker with Bitcoin and hacking into other people’s private lives — even accessing the email accounts and security codes for the grieving parents of the Demon’s victims. Kelly-Anne doesn’t show much emotion, but Plante often accompanies her scenes with wailing, operatic music that is as expressive as she is not. She also meets another serial killer groupie who could be her polar opposite in personality, Clémentine (Laurie Babin), a manic chatterbox who genuinely believes Chevalier must be innocent because his big eyes are too kind. (His eyes, by the way, are not kind — and Plante makes fine use of them in one of the film’s more striking scenes.)

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There is no real bloodshed in Red Rooms, but there is a kind of spiritual savagery. Plante achieves this partly through subtraction: Confronted with a verbal accounting of the Demon’s unspeakable crimes, Kelly-Anne’s poker-faced fascination with the trial is increasingly hard to read. Is she drawn to Chevalier and his alleged acts, or repulsed by them? This is among the many questions that hang in the air for most of Red Rooms’ running time, and the unnerving mystery of Kelly-Anne’s psyche, combined with the ease with which she moves through the shady corners of the internet, present a portrait of a very modern soul — unreadable, unstable, and unsettling.

At the same time, the initially controlled direction of the film — with its long, deliberate tracking shots, and orderly spaces — suggests a character who is herself fully in control of herself and her surroundings. Kelly-Anne might be unwell, but she’s also quite cool. This contrasts sharply with the messy behavior of Clémentine, who during one of the movie’s more bravura sequences calls into a late-night talk show to try and defend Chevalier, only to reveal how unhinged she really sounds. But as Red Rooms proceeds, Kelly-Anne’s reality also begins to slip, and the film’s style becomes looser, more frantic and fragmented. So much so that we might even start to question the veracity of what we’re seeing.

Despite the (thankful) lack of gore and violence, Red Rooms feels curiously giallo-adjacent at times. The bursts of formalism, the melodramatic score, the ways in which the model-protagonist’s own profession becomes a stylistic barometer for her mental state — these are all evocative of that classic, colorful subgenre of horror. What’s missing is the tongue-in-cheek exploitative quality of giallo. Or is it? By denying us cheap thrills, and by pointedly going in the other direction, Red Rooms highlights their absence. This picture about people obsessed with criminals and their grisly crimes confronts us with the mystery of who the obsessives truly are; the questions we ask of Kelly-Anne could also be asked of all us genre fiends. The expressionless, fascinated gaze at the heart of this film is ultimately not the protagonist’s, but our own.

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A movie review (of sorts): ‘Don’t Turn Your Back on Saturday Night' – Manchester Ink Link

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The literary world missed the memo: I’m supposed to be famous by now. 

But aren’t we all? 

The first ingredient for seeking fame while pursuing a fine art is a healthy ego. It is only after an artist becomes famous and successful that they can fake humility. Until then, we’re all scratching and clawing at the walls, trying to be noticed.

And stupendous talent isn’t always a prerequisite for success in the arts. Sure, there needs to be a basic awareness of craft, as well as some innate ability, but the most talented artists aren’t always the most successful or famous. 

I’m not talking about myself, of course. 

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With age comes the recognition of our limitations, and there is a reason that I’m hacking out columns while drinking a beer in my basement and not working on my next novel while sipping a fine chardonnay in my chalet.

Instead, I’m talking about the musician Ike Reilly, who fronts a band called The Ike Reilly Assassination. 

In August, directors Michael O’Brien and Mike Schmeideler released a documentary film on Reilly titled “Don’t Turn Your Back on Friday Night.” The film is a refreshing reminder that not all prodigiously talented artists attain worldwide fame. 

A movie review (of sorts): ‘Don’t Turn Your Back on Saturday Night' – Manchester Ink Link

I was first introduced to Ike Reilly in Steve Almond’s 2010 book “Rock and Roll Will Save Life.” As a fan of Reilly’s music, I had arrived late to the game. By 2010, Reilly had already released more than a half dozen albums, all except one record released on an independent label called Rock Ridge Music. 

A former gravedigger and hotel doorman, Reilly has lived his entire life in the same town north of Chicago named Libertyville, Ill.—which also happens to be Marlon Brando’s hometown. The documentary captures a lot of Reilly’s backstory, from marrying his high school sweetheart and raising a family, to his decision to give the rock n’ roll life a twirl in his 30s.

Reilly’s first album “Salesman and Racists” was supposed to set the music industry ablaze in 2001, and Universal Records offered Riley a large advance. The album was critically-acclaimed, and to this day, “Salesman and Racists” remains one of those rare albums where I won’t skip a track.

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But for some reason—there is a lot of conjecture in the film, including the inability to neatly package Reilly’s music for a specific demographic—it never happened.

The documentary, however, is about far more than a promising rock star who never lived up to the hype and expectations set by the music industry. It’s about how Reilly refused to sell out and continues to create great music on his own terms, in spite of everything. It’s about how Reilly reconciled with his own demons and double-downed on his family. 

Aside from being a compelling story, “Don’t Turn Your Back on Saturday Night” also contains some dynamite tunes. If you’re not familiar with Ike Reilly’s work, this is a good place to start. Many of his relative hits (or my favorite songs)are featured in the film, including the title song, “Commie Drives a Nova,” “I Will Let You Down,” “Garbage Day” and “Born on Fire.”

Steve Almond poignantly describes Reilly’s music in his book: “[Ike Reilly] sounded like Dylan, if Dylan had been Irish instead of Jewish and never left the Midwest and had grown up listening to the Clash rather than Woody Guthrie.”  

Most of all, Ike Reilly is a storyteller and a poet, and any time you find a storyteller and a poet who also makes beautiful music, it is a gift indeed. 

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So who cares if they never get really famous? To use a platitude, it is all about the art. 


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