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Marisa Abela, Harry Lawtey break down the 'Industry' finale's big romantic twist

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Marisa Abela, Harry Lawtey break down the 'Industry' finale's big romantic twist

Warning: the following contains major spoilers from the Season 3 finale of “Industry.”

After an interminable game of “Will They/Won’t They?,” “Industry” fans finally got an answer about Yasmin and Robert’s fate on Sunday night.

Bench sex be damned, these two will decidedly not be ending up together.

Yasmin stomped all over Rob’s poor little heart during Sunday’s Season 3 finale, revealing in brutal fashion that mere hours after being intimate with him for the first time, she’d gotten engaged to another man. Perhaps Rob (Harry Lawtey) never really stood a chance against the wealthy Henry (Kit Harington), especially now that Yasmin (Marisa Abela) is broke. Still, after she uttered “I love you” to Rob — the only time in her life she’d ever said the three words — we thought there was a sliver of hope for the HBO series’ resident sweethearts.

Alas, this is “Industry.” Expecting anyone to live according to a moral compass is foolhardy.

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But let’s hear Abela and Lawtey break it all down themselves. Over a video chat from their native United Kingdom last week, the actors weighed in on their characters’ romance, Rob’s sexuality and how the hell this show will work next season if all of the Pierpoint vets are in different cities. (The conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity.)

First of all: Marisa, how could Yasmin do this to Robert?!

Abela: I kind of saw it coming, to be honest. I think that it’s the only decision she could have made in that moment. One choice she’s making is a choice that has a future attached to it — a future that she can understand that has security. And the other is to go back to London with Rob with no job, no finances, no protection against this onslaught of media attention that she’s been having to deal with. I think it’s quite a clear choice, actually, for someone like Yasmin.

Also, if you watch Episode 7, I don’t think they make that much sense together. They’re arguing 90% of the time. I think Yasmin feels like she’s disappointing Robert a lot. She’s not kind enough, gentle enough, patient enough. And I think Robert feels like he’s not impressive enough in what he’s offering her. They’re letting each other down, and that’s not a fun way to feel. Whereas Henry, although he doesn’t necessarily see her how she wants to be seen or cradle her emotionally, he doesn’t expect anything more from her than what she can give him. It’s a sort of business decision at the end of the day. I think that if she’d just come off two days in Wales with Robert that were blissful and beautiful and perfect, she’d have made that decision, but it wasn’t really clicking.

Abela says the couple’s sex is “simple and it’s tender and it’s intimate, you know, compared to pissing on someone in the shower.”

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(Simon Ridgway / HBO)

It was clicking sexually!

Abela: Yes, exactly. They had this great sex. They told each other they loved each other, which I think they do in that moment, at least. But I think for Yasmin it’s just not enough. She has a lot on her plate back in London. She doesn’t have a home, a family. It would be a lot of pressure on Robert to put up with that. Imagine the opposite. They drive away from this big house together, and they go back to Finsbury Park and we watch them, like, make dinner that night or order a delivery that night. What does Yasmin do next? Other than feel like she’s with someone that she loves. I think we’re forgetting that we’re talking about Yasmin here. She’s brutal. Feeling the warm and cozy thing is not at the top of her list.

The sex that Robert and Yasmin have is kind of the most beautiful thing about their relationship. It’s simple and it’s tender and it’s intimate, you know, compared to pissing on someone in the shower.

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Both of your characters are sexually open. Harry, do you think there is a world where Rob is bisexual?

Lawtey: Fundamentally, yes. That’s always been part of the conversation that me and the boys have had since the first season. And there are scenes that never made it to the edit that explored that slightly more.

The show is a coming-of-age story. They’re in these evolving years in their lives and they’re being put into these awkward, intense, claustrophobic situations as part of this big ecosystem, which they’re kind of designed to serve. And yet, at the same time, they’re trying to carve out personality within that. And of course, their sexual lives and identities certainly intersect with all of that. The show has always treated that as character work and development. They all kind of surprise one another, and they’re all open because they live such a radical lifestyle.

Abela: They’re dealing with large sums of money every day, long hours, huge stakes. These things kind of lend themselves to wanting to throw themselves into things with more abandon than a normal person. They’re all becoming more and more desensitized, so they’re more desperate to try something that’s going to stimulate them sexually or emotionally in their relationships. In Season 1, Yasmin was shocking herself with the things that she was asking people to do for her. And now it’s more sort of like, “Am I willing to go there with him? Yeah, maybe. Why not? Let’s see how it goes.”

I think fans shipped Yas and Rob because they always seemed like the two characters who had the softest centers in this harsh environment. But in the finale, Yasmin shows a brutality I didn’t know she had in her.

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Abela: In terms of an audience wanting Yasmin to sit Robert down and tell him that she got engaged? I think she’s scared to do that. I don’t think it comes out of malice. Like, she’s not trying to humiliate him at the table. I think it would be a terrifying conversation for her to have with him, and I don’t think she’s capable of having it.

I definitely think that she’s gotten harder throughout the seasons. I agree that one of the things that brought her and Rob together in the past was that, compared to Harper [played by Myha’la], she had a sort of gooey center. She wasn’t as blindly driven by success. But Yasmin and Harper have become more and more similar as the seasons have gone on because Yasmin’s situation in life has become more desperate. Survival is No. 1 on her list now.

A man takes a woman's hand and kisses it in front of candlelight

Abela, seen here with Kit Harington, says she doesn’t think Yasmin was “capable” of having the “terrifying conversation” where she admitted to Rob she was engaged.

(Simon Ridgway / HBO)

Lawtey: This is also a testament to how little we actually know [about the plot], because there was a certain point in Season 3 where we were taking bets on what we thought might happen for [Robert and Yasmin] at the end of the season. Naturally, I was slightly more hopeful, of course.

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Where we find them in Season 3, there’s enough texture and integrity that they do love each other and see one another authentically for who they are — almost the way they wish to be seen, if they weren’t up against all these different challenges in their little universe. But ultimately, do they pound for pound make one another happy each day? Is that kind of connection sustainable? Maybe not.

Yasmin is in this bind where she’s forced into making a very practical choice that serves her. You can’t judge that, necessarily. And I think it’s fundamentally because Robert knows her, he gets it and accepts it pretty quickly in relation to how devastated he is. The speed with which he gathers himself is unlike Rob, but it’s because he knows that there’s a sliver of a world where this is wonderful and brilliant — but it’s a long shot. If anything, the ending of this season is a springboard for Robert to go and rediscover himself and try to recapture a part of him that has gone missing.

He does already kind of seem over it by the time he says goodbye to her in the driveway.

Lawtey: He knows her and he knows the system now. This season is a final look behind the curtain for Robert, socially and politically and professionally. He is coming to grips, finally, with the structure of how things operate and his place within that structure. Without being too cruel to himself, he’s accepted that ultimately, he’s not made for this world. And Yasmin is. And that’s where they have to part. It was a pipe dream, I think, their relationship. One that he believed in fervently for a minute. That scene that they have together by the lake, that’s kind of like a little window into that. But it’s a bit of a dream. I don’t think it would be like that.

Everyone in the show at Pierpoint has to ask themselves, “Why do I come to work? Why do I show up here? What do I get from this?” And I think almost all of those questions have been answered for Rob, apart from Yasmin. This is the final untethering for him. And so it’s very freeing. “Oh, I can just go and build my own life now, and I can try to be happy again.” He’s spent far too long for the last couple of years being sad.

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“This is the final untethering for him,” Lawtey says of his character. “He’s spent far too long for the last couple of years being sad.”

(Nick Strasburg / HBO)

And Yasmin is left behind at this mansion. Is she really cut out to be a housewife in the English countryside?

Abela: I don’t think she’s cut out to sit idly by and be someone’s wife. But I don’t think that Henry’s gonna ask that of her, either. I don’t think that it’s gonna be a conventional marriage [Laughs]. I just get the feeling that neither of them really need that from the other one. I’m sure she’ll be up and down from London.

But I don’t think Yasmin should have ever been an investment banker. This season, so many traumatic events happen to her and I still think that Yasmin looks the most lost when she’s on the desk. I think that she looks far more comfortable on a boat, even after her father has just jumped overboard. She’s really a talented manipulator, and she’ll find a way of using that to her advantage.

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I’m so glad that the show got renewed, especially because the showrunners really wrapped so many storylines up with a bow that I feared Season 3 would be the end of “Industry.” Did you ever worry about that?

Lawtey: With Mickey [Down] and Konrad [Kay, the showrunners], they always have this really exciting notion of just burning their best ideas and challenging themselves to come up with something interesting and dynamic and brave. They’ll always run it and see if they can write themselves out of that corner. So I never really second guess the direction they’re going in, because they always have something up their sleeves. They don’t save anything for final episodes or whatever. As we’ve seen from a few points of the season, no one’s ever really dead, either. They make the most of every inch of the characters in this show.

Abela: It does feel like an end of a chapter for all of them. But, you know, I kind of felt the same at the end of Season 2 with Harper leaving the bank. Season 1 was all about Harper’s relationship to Pierpoint. If they were going to keep going with “Industry,” it didn’t feel that tethered to Pierpoint anymore. These characters were sort of bursting out of that establishment.

Can you imagine an “Industry” where Yas is in England, Rob is in San Francisco, Harper is in New York, etc.?

Abela: I guess they’re probably not all in the same workplace. I don’t know where they’ll be.

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Lawtey: Their lives are rapidly becoming broader, as is the general scope and scale of the show. I think it’s fair to say that in this season, the boys started taking much bigger swings in the tone and style and the landscape of the show, and I think that really suits the characters and their development. Those channels to one another are still going to be there, but they’re being stretched and pushed into different shapes. Which is exciting for us, to keep on having to rethink and recontextualize the way in which these people relate to one another.

A man holding a baseball bat walks by desks covered in plastic

The cast went to watch Ken Leung film the final scene of Episode 3 where he took a baseball bat to the Pierpoint offices.

(Simon Ridgway / HBO)

Was there any sadness in saying goodbye to the Pierpoint set?

Abela: You do get a little bit sentimental about this fake building that you sort of grew up. If we were sad about saying goodbye to it, it was more about saying goodbye to the season and what the end of a Season 3 meant. The show means a lot to us, and we as people, I think, mean a lot to each other. And so we all went down and watched the final scene with Ken [Leung, who plays Eric] swinging that bat around. It just kind of felt like a moment. We all kind of grew up in that mini trailer park.

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Lawtey: It was like a really special thing to go and see Ken and send off that space for us. It does feel like a home, in a way, creatively. In the picture of our careers as actors, that represents HQ. The building where the trading floor was, they never took it down even in the long gaps between seasons. So, yeah, it was a strange thing to walk away from. When I think of that room, I think of the ensemble of the show. It’s been a collective and a community of people that has kind of revolved, but there’s been a nucleus that has stayed the same. And the home for those people is that space. We just had a lot of laughs there and some brilliant times. I was chatting to Ken the other day, and he said this season signifies the closing of a circle. And now you’ve just got to open a new circle, I think.

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‘Bhool Bhulaiyaa 3’ movie review: Kartik Aaryan, Vidya Balan, Madhuri Dixit’s horror-comedy is innocuous fun

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Does Bhool Bhulaiyaa 3 hold that well when we have just seen Stree 2, Bhediya, and Munjya? Kind of!

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Cast: Kartik Aaryan, Triptii Dimri, Vidya Balan, Madhuri Dixit, Vijay Raaz, Rajpal Yadav, Ashwini Kalsekar, and Sanjay Mishra

Director: Anees Bazmee

Language: Hindi

The idea of moving from a psychological thriller to a horror comedy feels both curious and correct. Bhool Bhulaiyaa came out at a time when Hindi cinema wasn’t piling up films of the same genre to please the box-office. The sequel came out when Bollywood was at a shocking and surprising cusp. We were fresh off the trial of the pandemic, and the sequel to an immensely popular film released after 15 years. There was no Akshay Kumar, but still there was Bhool Bhulaiyaa. It became a raging success. And with Stree 2, Munjya writing history, there was no reason for part three not to be made.

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This time, there are two cherries on the cake. One is Vidya Balan, who sent a shiver down our spine with her bone-chilling performance in part one as the possessed wife. We call her Manjulika. She’s back. The second cherry is Madhuri Dixit, who plays Manjulika too. The rest of the cake has cream, chocolate, candles in the form of Kartik Aaryan, Triptii Dimri (headlining films quicker than Akshay Kumar), and the inimitable trio of Rajpal Yadav, Ashwini Kalsekar, and Sanjay Mishra. They say timing is everything. The second part of the franchise hit the bullseye as it was almost like heavy rainfall after a long dry spell.

But does Bhool Bhulaiyaa 3 hold that well when we have just seen Stree 2, Bhediya, and Munjya? Kind of! If Akshay Kumar played a psychiatrist who arrived in full swag in the haunted haveli, Aaryan’s a farcical character who sells his facade with nonchalance and glee. He never wants to solve the problem until he has too. He did that with two Tabus in part two, he does that with the two Manjulikas in part three. Which brings us to the two leading ladies. Balan reprises the character after 17 years, and goes little overboard in reenacting that possessed performance. But props to an actor of her talent that she sportingly submits to the unassuming and unabashed vision of director Anees Bazmee and writer Aaksh Kaushik.

Madhuri Dixit’s flair for comedy hasn’t been tested with much aplomb except for those Indra Kumar films like Raja, Dil, and Total Dhamaal. This is her first collaboration with Bazmee and she gives what we say her best shot. Sorry, there were not two but three cherries on the cake mentioned above. It was the dance of Balan and Dixit that gives both the ladies the juiciest opportunity they have got in recent times. Bhool Bhulaiyaa 3 isn’t based on any folklore, it’s a work of pure fiction where the brains and the cells have to be left behind. It’s not inspired by any true story. After all, this is an offering by a man who has carved a pretty successful career making those larger-than-life comedies like No Entry, Singh Is Kinng, and Welcome.

And while two of those comedies were made with Akshay, this is also Bazmee’s second and definitely not the last collaboration with Aaryan. Unlike Balan, who returns to this world after 17 years, Aaryan is back only after two. He looks fresh, and sticks to the shenanigans he pulled off unapologetically back in 2022. His romance with Dimri feels labored and inconsequential but who would say no to arguably the most popular name in Hindi film landscape currently. Bhool Bhulaiyaa 3 could be savored taste; for those wanting to see romance have Aaryan and Dimri, for those waiting to see the OG Manjulika have Balan at their service, for anyone enamored by Dixit, she brings back the memories of Devdas with her thunderous aura and nimble moves. And for those stepping in with zero expectations, may not be exactly doing a Bhool!

Rating: 3 (out of 5 stars)

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The blockbuster World Series matchup of the Dodgers playing the New York Yankees gave Fox an expected ratings boost.

Nielsen data showed the five-game Series that concluded Wednesday with a Dodgers come-from-behind 7-6 win averaged 15.8 million viewers.

The figure is up 67% over last year’s five-game Series, when the Texas Rangers topped the Arizona Diamondbacks.

The Dodgers-Yankees showdown delivered the largest audience for a five-game series since 2015, when an average of 14.5 million viewers watched the Kansas City Royals defeat the New York Mets. It was the most-watched World Series of any length since the Houston Astros beat the Dodgers in seven games in 2017.

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Fox benefited from having teams in the two largest TV markets. It was also a platform for the game’s two biggest stars, Shohei Ohtani of the Dodgers and Aaron Judge of the Yankees. Both are the favorites to win the most valuable player award in their respective leagues.

The last time the Dodgers faced the Yankees in the Fall Classic was in 1981. The Dodgers won that Series four games to two.

The short series kept Fox from seeing a decisive World Series Game 7, which in the past has drawn as many as 40 million viewers. But every game of the 2024 match paced ahead of comparable contests in recent years.

The deciding game Wednesday averaged 18.6. million viewers nationally. In Los Angeles, the game was watched by 21.1% of TV homes in the market. In New York, the figure was 14.8%.

Game 4, which was the lone win by the Yankees, averaged 16.3 million viewers, the most-watched World Series game since 2019.

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Game 3 of the Fall Classic went up against an NFL “Monday Night Football” contest on ABC and ESPN. The 13.6 million viewers who watched Fox topped the 13.4 million who tuned in for the Pittsburgh Steelers’ 26-18 win over the New York Giants.

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Heretic
Director: Scott Beck, Bryan Woods
Beck/Woods, Shiny Penny
In Theaters: 11.01

As a native Utahn who group up in the LDS Church, and a cinephile, I’ve often lamented the fact that while the church gets a certain amount of representation in film, we haven’t had anything close to a horror film since Trapped by The Mormons in 1922. It’s not like the genre doesn’t have plenty of potential. Family Home Evil and Baptism for The Walking Dead—these concepts practically write themselves. Count your blessings, brothers and sisters, because with the release of Heretic, the second coming of the genre is here at last.

The story takes place in a rural Colorado town, where a pair of missionaries, Sister Paxton (Chloe East, The Fabelmans) and Sister Barnes (Sophie Thatcher, The Book of Boba Fett) are having a discouraging day, having no luck making new contacts and even getting harassed by a group of teens who pull down Sister Paxton’s skirt to see if she is really wearing “magic underwear.”  Despite a rainstorm, they decide to stop by the home of a potential golden contact, Mr. Reed (Hugh Grant, Four Weddings and a Funeral, Paddington 2), a charming man who has done his studying and expressed a great deal of interest in the church.  While they are wary of entering his home without another woman—rules require them not to be alone with a man—Reed assures them that his wife is in the kitchen baking a blueberry pie.  Once inside, the sisters relax as Mr. Reed starts discussing religion, pulling out a heavily notated copy of the Book of Mormon. Sister Paxton is quickly put at ease by his friendly demeanor, while Sister Barnes remains uneasy. As the conversation progresses, and Reed begins to pointedly question their beliefs, they realize that Reed hasn’t invited them to his house to convert him. Is he trying to convert them? Or does he have something even darker in mind? As he tricks them into going into the basement, he reveals two doors, one marked “belief” and one “disbelief,” and they must choose which will lead them to safety.

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There’s already a rather vocal crowd labeling Heretic as an attack against the LDS faith, but while it raises many interesting questions about religion and touches briefly on church history, the film doesn’t push any one point of view, and it’s certainly not designed to malign the faith. , Writer-director team Scott Beck and Bryan Woods, who co-wrote A Quiet Place with John Krasinski, have created a horror film with a highly intriguing premise, and Mormonism is simply the religion that best fits it’s  terrifying premise. The Sister missionaries are great characters who easily come across as young and naïve, yet they also show great moments of strength, drawing on their faith to bolster themselves. If you believe that any mention of the polygamy or the simple fact that Temple garments seem rather strange to most nonmembers, then yes, you will be every bit as offended as you want to be. If you can keep an open mind, you’re unlikely to find anything to be directly offended by here.  The fact is that the Mormons are the protagonists, not the villains, and just as they did in a Quiet Place, Beck and Woods demonstrate that horror is at its scariest when it follows good people whom you can genuinely care about. That’s not to say that it’s a pro-Mormonism movie, either, it’s just a movie. The philosophical and theological deep dive that the clever script take wisely leaves the audience with plenty of room to get what they choose out of it. I even took my actively religious mission companion to the screening as my plus one, and we both thoroughly enjoyed the film.

Grant is a diabolically delicious and wonderfully complex villain, and it’s a performance and a character who deserves to join the ranks of Hannibal Lecter and Misery’s Annie Bates. It’s still Thatcher and East who drives the film,, and both are likable and engaging.  The fact that Thatcher grew up LDS and her family is still active was undoubtedly an asset in capturing the culture and the details with such impressive accuracy. Topher Grace (That ‘70s Show) is effective as Elder Kennedy, a local stake or ward mission leader (it’s never quite specified) who goes searching for the Sisters when they don’t show up at the Church for an appointment, and he gets one the film’s best comic relief moments.

I’m not telling anyone that they have to see Heretic if they don’t want to, but I’d be ungrateful if I didn’t take this opportunity to bear my testimony that whatever your religious affiliation or lack thereof may be, this movie isn’t out to get you. It’s simply an extremely smart and atmospheric thriller that explores themes of the nature of belief and how it shapes our lives and our actions in a way that will give you a lot to talk about, and it’s one of the best suspense films I’ve seen in decades. I say these things in the name of Alfred Hitchcock. Amen. –Patrick Gibbs

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