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The summer of Travis Kelce: Inside an action-packed offseason as a rising celebrity
ST. JOSEPH, Mo. — In late June, the quietest time on the NFL calendar, Kansas City Chiefs general manager Brett Veach started receiving text message after text message while on a family vacation. Questions raced through his mind.
Was there breaking NFL news? Did a member of the Chiefs organization need his attention? Did something happen to one of the players?
Once he looked at what several people sent him, Veach’s reaction was similar to so many around the world: Travis Kelce was on stage with Taylor Swift.
Across the Atlantic Ocean, at London’s Wembley Stadium, Kelce made a surprise appearance as a performer during one of Swift’s mega concerts. More than 90,000 people screamed, cheered and pointed their smartphones at the stage to record Kelce’s every move alongside Swift, the pop superstar artist he’s been dating for more than a year.
“He’s a showman,” Veach said of Kelce. “He has just a natural gift of being able to perform in front of people. Obviously, we get the most benefit when he’s doing it on Sundays.
“It’s funny because when you see those clips with him on tour with Taylor, it looks as if he was a part of that show for months. But it was that one day, and he just looks natural. It’s a gift he has.”
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Those few minutes on stage with the world’s biggest pop artist proved to be the apex moment for Kelce’s epic summer, a packed offseason unlike any before during his 12-year career as a Chiefs tight end.
Donning a black tuxedo and top hat, Kelce flashed his charming smile, executed a perfect heel click and carried Swift, who acted asleep, to a red couch. The concert’s transition from one song to “I Can Do It With a Broken Heart,” the hit from Swift’s most recent album “The Tortured Poets Department,” included Kelce, alongside two dancers, waking her up to change into a different costume before performing the song.
Kelce’s final act was an easy one. He gazed at Swift and provided some comedy by putting a blush brush on his cheeks and doing an uptempo tap dance reminiscent of actor Jim Carrey in the movie “Dumb and Dumber.”
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Of course, performing with Swift was Kelce’s idea.
“She found the perfect part of the show for me to come in,” Kelce said in the season finale of “New Heights,” the podcast he hosts with his brother, Jason. “It’s such a fun, playful part of the show. It was the perfect time for me to go up there and just be a ham and have some fun and try to get everybody excited for the rest of the show. It was awesome.
“That moment was pretty jarring. I was just like, ‘Oh s—!’ You don’t realize how big that damn stage is. I didn’t disappoint Taylor. That’s all that really matters.”
Kelce has many more ideas of what he can do in the entertainment industry once his NFL career ends, too.
This offseason showed that Kelce plans to remain a significant part of American pop culture, perhaps becoming an even bigger celebrity long after he enters the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He gallivanted from one event to the next, from one part-time TV job to the next and remained an encouraging, energizing presence at many stops on Swift’s worldwide “Eras Tour.”
Veach and many others within the Chiefs organization realize Kelce, in perhaps the final phase of his NFL career, is becoming a perfect crossover athlete, following former football stars such as Michael Strahan, Carl Weathers and Dwayne Johnson — also known in pro wrestling circles as The Rock.
“A lot of people tense up around a large group of people with eyes on them, and some people just thrive in that environment,” Veach said. “He’s one of those guys where the more eyes he has on him, the more he lights up. It’s cool and fun to see. He’s just got that gift to relate to people and make people smile.”
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In early June, Kelce needed a few seconds to decide which was his favorite experience away from the football field up to that point. He then thought of his many trips to Los Angeles.
“I would say getting a little more comfortable in front of the camera, doing some things in the acting world,” Kelce said. “That’s been some fun that I’ve had, so look out for that coming up soon.”
Kelce wants to become a full-fledged actor one day, and his first opportunity to play a character on camera began in the spring. Actress/comedian Niecy Nash-Betts revealed in early May that Kelce would be guest starring alongside her in “Grotesquerie,” an FX horror and drama TV show. Kelce’s role in the show has remained a mystery. In the trailer, Kelce is on screen for less than two seconds, his character wearing a gold wedding ring. The show is set to premiere Sept. 25 ahead of the Chiefs’ third game of the season.
In April, Kelce began taping episodes of his new game show, “Are You Smarter Than a Celebrity?,” a spinoff of the popular game show “Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?” As the show’s host, Kelce was alongside adult contestants who relied on a group of celebrities — instead of fifth-grade students — to help them answer 11 questions on a range of subjects to win a $100,000 prize. The first of the show’s 20 episodes is set to premiere Oct. 16 on Amazon Prime Video.
The TV opportunities for Kelce have increased since last year, when he hosted “Saturday Night Live,” the long-running NBC comedy show he adored as a child. Much of that episode, from the opening monologue to appearing in several sketches, showcased Kelce’s gregarious personality and comedic timing, so much that movie and TV producers were impressed and intrigued.
Kelce also shared on his podcast that he wants to follow former players like Tom Brady, Troy Aikman and Tony Romo in becoming a color commentator for NFL games after he retires.
“I love playing in the NFL,” Kelce said in June. “This will always be my main focus. But outside of that, football ends for everybody, so (I’m) kind of dipping my toes in the water and seeing what (I) like in different areas and different career fields.
“I think the offseason is the best chance you can get to try and explore that and set yourself up for (life) after football.”
Two days after the NFL Draft, Kelce, who will turn 35 in October, gave the first indication that he could retire after the 2025 season.
He entered the Chiefs training facility and signed a new two-year contract with the team, making him the highest-paid tight end for the first time in his career. Minutes after signing, Kelce became emotional, almost near tears, when he recorded a video thanking fans while informing them of his continued partnership with the Chiefs.
“I really can’t put a timeframe on (retirement),” Kelce said. “Obviously, I know there’s opportunities outside of football for me. You have to keep in perspective that I’m still a little kid when I come into this building, man.
“I love coming to work every single day. I’m going to do it until the wheels fall off. Hopefully, that doesn’t happen anytime soon. I can definitely understand that it’s toward the end of the road (more) than it is the beginning of it.”
Kelce’s offseason essentially began with him in Philadelphia in early March to watch Jason, a six-time All-Pro and future Hall of Famer who helped the Eagles win the franchise’s only Super Bowl in 2018, retire from the NFL. Despite wearing sunglasses, Kelce could be seen crying throughout his brother’s emotional 41-minute speech.
“We did almost everything together — competed, fought, laughed, cried and learned from each other,” Jason, 36, said of his younger brother. “There is no chance I’d be here without the bond Travis and I share. It made me stronger, tougher, smarter and taught me the values of cooperation, loyalty, patience and understanding.”
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A few weeks later, the brothers hosted a live episode of their podcast at the University of Cincinnati, their alma mater. The event at Fifth Third Arena attracted more than 12,500 fans and ended with a surprise commencement ceremony as the school’s president and athletic director gave each brother his diploma. Kelce accepted his diploma while chugging a beer, which produced roaring cheers.
He did a similar celebration in May, chugging a beer off a replica of the Vince Lombardi Trophy while on stage during Kelce Jam, his annual musical festival in Kansas City that featured hip-hop artists such as Lil Wayne and 2 Chainz.
Another much-anticipated moment for Kelce came when the Chiefs returned to the White House to celebrate their second consecutive Super Bowl victory. The year before, Kelce made the crowd laugh when he approached the lectern, saying just seven words — “So, I’ve been waiting for this moment …” — before he was gently pushed back by quarterback Patrick Mahomes while photographers snapped shots of President Joe Biden with a red No. 46 jersey with his last name stitched on the back.
This year, though, Biden welcomed Kelce to the microphone for another joke.
“My fellow Americans … it’s nice to see you all yet again,” Kelce started, leading everyone in the crowd to laugh, including Biden. “I’m not going to lie, President Biden. They told me if I came up here, I’d get tased, so I’m gonna go back to my spot, all right?”
Travis Kelce: “I’m not gonna lie, President Biden, they told me if I came up here I’d get tased, so I’m gonna go back to my spot.”
The Chiefs are at the White House.
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— The Athletic (@TheAthletic) May 31, 2024
The 10-minute ceremony ended with the team presenting Biden with the gift of a Chiefs helmet, which Kelce encouraged him to put on. Biden obliged, much to the surprise of the players, who responded with loud cheers and laughter.
A week later, Kelce was back in the Cleveland area, his hometown, winning the home run derby, hitting 11 dingers, in a celebrity softball game hosted by Cleveland Browns tight end David Njoku. Afterward, Njoku called Kelce one of the nicest people he’s ever met.
“I’d like to say my father (Ed) would slap me silly if I was any other way,” Kelce said, grinning. “Sometimes you’ve got to straighten up and do the right things. Over the course of my life, I’ve found that being kind and being genuine is the right way to live. My mom (Donna) and dad are the reason I’m always just a friendly guy.”
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Any new details about Kelce’s relationship with Swift are significant for fans of both. Kelce, understandably, has not revealed very much to protect their privacy.
But even Kelce knows most people these days are eager to talk to him about Swift as much as his football exploits. In June, after one of the Chiefs’ minicamp practices, a reporter asked a follow-up question — “What do you like cooking together?” — after Swift posted a short video of them together in the kitchen.
“That’s a good question,” Kelce said, smiling. After a brief pause, he continued: “You know, I respect that question. But I’m going to keep that one to myself because I thoroughly enjoy cooking with her. It’s something I’d rather just keep personal.”
Four minutes later, once his news conference ended, Kelce answered the reporter’s question, doing so in a comedic fashion just before he left the podium.
“Taylor makes a great pop tart and cinnamon roll,” he said.
Kelce traveled more than he ever had before. He promoted and was filmed in national commercial (Subway) after national commercial (Garage Beer) after national commercial (Accelerator Active Energy). He and Jason appeared in Lake Tahoe to compete in the American Century Championship celebrity golf tournament with fans flocking to their group.
Kelce also flew to Europe several times — London, Dublin and many other cities — to attend as many of Swift’s concerts as possible, each time being more stunned by the number of people wearing his Chiefs jersey.
Kelce danced and sang along to Swift’s songs next to celebrities, including Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, Paul McCartney, Stevie Nicks and Hugh Grant.
Even Jason and Travis get starstruck in the VIP tent @SimpliSafe pic.twitter.com/MaoKVAryGi
— New Heights (@newheightshow) July 3, 2024
“I think it’s great for him,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid said of Kelce on the first episode of “Scoop City,” The Athletic’s podcast. “He can handle it. He probably loves it, up to a point. I think there’s a great escape for him. I said that about Taylor, too. She comes to the game and she can kind of escape having to be the show. Travis can do that. When he goes to her concerts, she’s the star.
“He’s an outgoing guy. He comes into a room, he’s gonna light that room up. Everybody’s his best friend. Until you prove him wrong, everybody’s a friend. It’s not something that he can’t handle.”
A byproduct of Kelce’s crammed itinerary was changing his usual training routine. Wherever Kelce was, one of his three personal trainers — Alex Skacel, Andrew Spruill and Laurence Justin Ng — usually was with him.
“I’m doing some things different,” Kelce said, although he and his trainers declined to share details. “I’ve got guys all over the place.”
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Last season was the first time since 2015 that Kelce didn’t finish with at least 1,000 receiving yards. Part of the reason was he played through two nagging injuries, a hyperextended right knee and a low ankle sprain. His production declined over the second half of the season as his ability to evade defenders or break tackles decreased.
But in the Chiefs’ four-game postseason run, after a week of rest in the regular-season finale, Kelce elevated his game, making 32 receptions for 355 yards and three touchdowns.
“The biggest thing was getting my body right,” Kelce said of working with his trainers this offseason. “Last year was pretty taxing. I’ve had more snaps than a lot of guys, if not every (tight end) in the NFL over the past five, six years. I’m very (proud) of that, but I know it has taken a toll on my body.
“It was just making sure my body was getting that rest and that ability to train harder and be able to withstand an entire 17- to 20-game season.”
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Swift has supported Kelce by sometimes training alongside him. One of Kelce’s favorite moments from the offseason came in July, days before training camp began, when he and Swift went on a double date in Amsterdam with Mahomes and his wife, Brittany.
“Honestly, to me, he’s the same guy,” Mahomes said of Kelce. “It’s a huge platform and everyone in the world can see it, deservedly so because of how great Taylor is, but it’s still Travis. I think that’s what makes it so cool, even though it’s such a big thing for the world.
“We were just having fun and enjoying a dinner just like anyone else would. That’s what makes it so great. We don’t make it more than what it is; it’s just friendship, fellowship and enjoying everyone’s success.”
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One part of Kelce’s summer remained the same, though: It ended with him returning to Missouri Western State in St. Joseph, Mo., to report to Chiefs training camp, another month living in a dormitory inside Scanlon Hall, which houses first-year students during the school year.
“This is my sanctuary, baby; St. Joe, Year 12,” Kelce said with a smile. “That means I’ve spent just about an entire year in my life up here in the dorms, man. Everybody may see that as pretty grueling, but I enjoy it, man.”
In the past month, Kelce has reminded everyone on the team why he is the league’s best tight end and did his best to quash any suggestion that his offseason activities would be a distraction to the Chiefs. He never missed a practice during camp in hopes of ensuring he has a more productive season than in 2023. Whether in one-on-one drills or the fast-paced team periods, Kelce demonstrated his skills as one of the league’s smoothest route runners and pass catchers.
After each practice, Kelce spent an extra few minutes working on his blocking techniques against a blocking sled. When backup players went through their repetitions, Kelce often spent time talking plays over with Mahomes or sharing his insight with rookie tight end Jared Wiley. When emotions among some players became overheated, Kelce showed his leadership skills, including correctly criticizing defensive end George Karlaftis for de-cleating receiver Kadarius Toney during a non-padded practice.
“He has a unique way of leading and still having that kid quality on the field where he can joke with guys,” Reid said of Kelce. “He gets when to be a goofball and when to crank it up and be serious.”
At the start of camp, Kelce continued one of his traditions. He shaved off his beard, leaving just a thick, walrus-like mustache to resemble Reid. But Mahomes shared that Kelce’s haircut was not the same as last year. Instead of a buzzcut, Kelce has let his hair grow throughout camp because of a request from Swift.
Travis saw my niece, wearing a Taylor @Chiefs shirt, threw his glove, missed, pointed at her, and threw again. And I was completely unhinged and lost my mind. Clyde signed the boys stuff. @tkelce and @Clydro_22 the best thank you!! You made training camp so fun #ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/1ebBZ8n8zm
— Becky Hardin (@cookierookiebec) July 26, 2024
This summer, Kelce made one concession to Reid: He agreed to take fewer repetitions in practice during camp to help ensure he wouldn’t be overworked before Sept. 5, the Chiefs’ season opener against the Baltimore Ravens. Even with fewer reps, Kelce still found time to display his joyful, creative playstyle. Sometimes the ball didn’t stay in his hands long after he made a reception, instead pitching a perfect lateral to a teammate, such as wide receiver Marquise Brown, running back Isiah Pacheco or fellow tight end Noah Gray.
Each practice for Kelce ended the same, with him smiling, his body and red jersey drenched in sweat.
“He actually gets mad when (the coaches) take him out,” Mahomes said of Kelce. “He has all the right in the world to kind of be on the sideline because he knows all the (plays). He doesn’t necessarily need the reps, but he loves working.
“It makes my job easier as a leader to push other guys because I can just say, ‘Look at the Hall of Famer who’s out here practicing harder than anybody.’ He enjoys the process of being great.”
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(Illustration: Dan Goldfarb / The Athletic; photos: Gareth Cattermole / TAS24, Courtney Culbreath, Andrew Harnik / Getty Images)
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6 Poems You Should Know by Heart
Literature
‘Prayer’ (1985) by Galway Kinnell
Whatever happens. Whatever
what is is is what
I want. Only that. But that.
“I typically say Kinnell’s words at the start of my day, as I’m pedaling a traffic-laden path to my office,” says Major Jackson, 57, the author of six books of poetry, including “Razzle Dazzle” (2023). “The poem encourages a calm acceptance of the day’s events but also wants us to embrace the misapprehension and oblivion of life, to avoid probing too deeply for answers to inscrutable questions. I admire what Kinnell does with only 14 words; the repetition of ‘what,’ ‘that’ and ‘is’ would seem to limit the poem’s sentiment but, paradoxically, the poem opens widely to contain all manner of human experience. The three ‘is’es in the middle line give it a symmetry that makes its message feel part of a natural order, and even more convincing. Thanks to the skillful punctuation, pauses and staccato rhythm, a tonal quality of interior reflection emerges. Much like a haiku, it continues after its last words, lingering like the last note played on a piano that slowly fades.”
“Just as I was entering young adulthood, probably slow to claim romantic feelings, a girlfriend copied out a poem by Pablo Neruda and slipped it into an envelope with red lipstick kisses all over it. In turn, I recited this poem. It took me the remainder of that winter to memorize its lines,” says Jackson. “The poem captures the pitch of longing that defines love at its most intense. The speaker in Shakespeare’s most famous sonnet believes the poem creates the beloved, ‘So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, / So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.’ (Sonnet 18). In Rilke’s expressive declarations of yearning, the beloved remains elusive. Wherever the speaker looks or travels, she marks his world by her absence. I find this deeply moving.”
“Clifton faced many obstacles, including cancer, a kidney transplant and the loss of her husband and two of her children. Through it all, she crafted a long career as a pre-eminent American poet,” says Jackson. “Her poem ‘won’t you celebrate with me’ is a war cry, an invitation to share in her victories against life’s persistent challenges. The poem is meaningful to all who have had to stare down death in a hospital or had to bereave the passing of close relations. But, even for those who have yet to mourn life’s vicissitudes, the poem is instructive in cultivating resilience and a persevering attitude. I keep coming back to the image of the speaker’s hands and the spirit of steadying oneself in the face of unspeakable storms. She asks in a perfectly attuned gorgeously metrical line, ‘what did i see to be except myself?’”
‘Sonnet 94’ (1609) by William Shakespeare
They that have power to hurt and will do none,
That do not do the thing they most do show,
Who, moving others, are themselves as stone,
Unmovèd, cold, and to temptation slow,
They rightly do inherit heaven’s graces
And husband nature’s riches from expense;
They are the lords and owners of their faces,
Others but stewards of their excellence.
The summer’s flower is to the summer sweet,
Though to itself it only live and die;
But if that flower with base infection meet,
The basest weed outbraves his dignity.
For sweetest things turn sourest by their deeds;
Lilies that fester smell far worse than weeds.
“It’s one of the moments of Western consciousness,” says Frederick Seidel, 90, the author of more than a dozen collections of poetry, including “So What” (2024). “Shakespeare knows and says what he knows.”
“It trombones magnificent, unbearable sorrow,” says Seidel.
“It’s smartass and bitter and bright,” says Seidel.
These interviews have been edited and condensed.
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Classic and Contemporary Literature From France, Japan, India, the U.K. and Brazil
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FRANCE
According to the writer Leïla Slimani, 44, the author of ‘The Country of Others’ (2020).
Classic
‘Essais de Montaigne’ (‘Essays of Montaigne,’ 1580)
“France is a country of nuance with a love of conversation and freedom and an aversion to fanaticism. It’s also a country built on reflexive subjectivity. Montaigne reveals all that, writing, ‘I am myself the matter of my book.’”
Contemporary
‘La Carte et le Territoire’ (‘The Map and the Territory,’ 2010) by Michel Houellebecq
“Houellebecq describes France as a museum, where landscape turns into décor and where rural areas are emptying out. He shows the gap between the Parisian elite and the rest of the population, which he paints as aging and disoriented by modernity. It’s a melancholic and yet ironic novel about a disenchanted nation.”
JAPAN
According to the writer Yoko Ogawa, 64, the author of ‘The Memory Police’ (1994).
Classic
‘Man’yoshu’ (late eighth century)
“‘Man’yoshu,’ the oldest extant collection of Japanese poetry, reflects a diversity of voices — from emperors to commoners. They bow their heads to the majesty of nature, weep at the loss of loved ones and find pathos in death. The pages pulse with the vitality of successive generations.”
Contemporary
‘Tenohira no Shosetsu’ (‘Palm-of-the-Hand Stories,’ 1923-72) by Yasunari Kawabata
“The essence of Japanese literature might lie in brevity: waka [a classical 31-syllable poetry form], haiku and short stories. There’s a tradition of cherishing words that seem to well up from the depths of the heart, imbued with warmth. Kawabata, too, exudes more charm in his short stories — especially these very short ‘palm-of-the-hand’ stories — than in his full-length novels. Good and evil, beauty and ugliness, love and hate — everything is contained in these modest worlds.”
INDIA
According to Aatish Taseer, 45, a T contributing writer and the author of ‘Stranger to History: A Son’s Journey Through Islamic Lands’ (2009).
Classic
‘The Kumarasambhava’ (‘The Birth of Kumara,’ circa fifth century) by Kalidasa
“This is an epic poem by the greatest of the classical Sanskrit poets and dramatists. The gods are in a pickle. They’re being tormented by a monster, but Shiva, their natural protector, is deep in meditation and cannot be disturbed. Kama, the god of love, armed with his flower bow, is sent down from the heavens to waken Shiva. Never a wise idea! The great god, in his fury, opens his third eye and incinerates Kama. But then, paradoxically, the death of the god of love engenders one of the greatest love stories ever told. In the final canto, Shiva and his wife, the goddess Parvati, have the most electrifying sex for days on end — and, 15 centuries on, in our now censorious time, it still leaves one agog at the sensual wonder that was India.”
Contemporary
‘The Complex’ (2026) by Karan Mahajan
“This state-of-the-nation novel, which was published just last month, captures the squalor and malice of Indian family life. Delhi is both my and Mahajan’s hometown and, in this sprawling homage to India’s capital, we see it on the eve of the economic liberalization of the 1990s, as the old socialist city gives way to a megalopolis of ambition, greed and political cynicism.”
THE UNITED KINGDOM
According to the writer Tessa Hadley, 70, the author of ‘The London Train’ (2011).
Classic
‘Jane Eyre’ (1847) by Charlotte Brontë
“Written almost 200 years ago, it remains an insight into our collective soul — or at least its female part. Somewhere at the heart of us there’s a small girl in a wintry room, curled up in the window seat with a book, watching the lashing rain on the window glass: ‘There was no possibility of taking a walk that day. …’ Jane’s solemnity, her outraged sense of justice, her trials to come, the wild weather outside, her longing for something better, for love in her future: All this speaks, perhaps problematically, to something buried in the foundations of our idea of ourselves.”
Contemporary
‘All That Man Is’ (2016) by David Szalay
“Though he isn’t quite completely British (he’s part Canadian, part Hungarian), Szalay is brilliant at catching certain aspects of British men — aspects that haven’t been written about for a while, now updated for a new era. Funny, exquisitely observed and terrifying, this novel reminds us, too, how absolutely our fate and our identity as a nation belong with the rest of Europe.”
BRAZIL
According to the writer and critic Noemi Jaffe, 64, the author of ‘What Are the Blind Men Dreaming?’ (2016).
Classic
‘Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas’ (‘The Posthumous Memoirs of Brás Cubas,’ 1881) by Machado de Assis
“Not only is it experimental in style — very short chapters mixed with long ones; different points of view; narrated by a corpse; metalinguistic — but it also introduces an extremely ironic view of the rising bourgeoisie in Rio de Janeiro at the time, revealing the hypocrisy of slave owners, the falsehood of love affairs and the only true reason for all social relationships: convenience and personal interest. After almost 150 years, it’s still modern, both formally and, unfortunately, also in content.”
Contemporary
‘Onde Pastam os Minotauros’ (‘Where Minotaurs Graze,’ 2023) by Joca Reiners Terron
“The two main characters — Cão and Crente — along with some of their colleagues, plan to escape and set fire to the slaughterhouse where they work under exploitative conditions. The men develop sympathy for the animals they kill, and one of them becomes a sort of philosopher, revealing the sheer nonsense of existence and the injustices of society in the deepest parts of Brazil.”
These interviews have been edited and condensed.
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6 Myths That Endure
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The Myth of Meeting Oneself
“This is evident in Virgil’s ‘Aeneid’ (circa 30-19 B.C.) when Aeneas witnesses his own heroic actions depicted in murals of the Trojan War in Juno’s temple, and again in Miguel de Cervantes’s ‘Don Quixote’ (1605-15) when Quixote enters a printer’s shop and finds a book that has been published with fake details about his quest even as he’s living it,” says Ben Okri, 67, the author of “The Famished Road” (1991) and “Madame Sosostris and the Festival for the Brokenhearted” (2025). “In both stories, individuals throw themselves into the world and think they encounter objects, personae, obstacles and antagonists, but what they actually encounter is themselves. In our time, where our actions meet us in the echo chamber of social media, the process is magnified and swifter. Now a deed doesn’t even have to take place for it to enter the realm of reality.”
The Myth of Utopia
“I’ve always had trouble with the idea of utopia, feeling it derives its energy more from what it wishes to dismantle than what it wishes to enact,” says the T writer at large Aatish Taseer, 45, the author of “Stranger to History: A Son’s Journey Through Islamic Lands” (2009). “Ram Rajya, or the mythical rule of the hero Ram in the Hindu epic ‘Ramayana’ (seventh century B.C.-third century A.D.), like all visions of perfection, contains a built-in violence.”
The Myth of Invisibility
“Invisibility bears power and powerlessness at the same time,” says Okri. “In ancient cultures, it was a gift of the gods. Jesus, for example, walks unrecognized among his disciples, and in Greek myths, Scandinavian legends and ancient African tales, heroes are gifted invisibility in the form of cloaks, sandals or spells. Modern works like the two ‘Invisible Man’ novels, by H.G. Wells (1897) and Ralph Ellison (1952), and the ‘Harry Potter’ novels (1997-2007) by J.K. Rowling reach back to those ideas. But today, people talk about visibility as the highest form of social agency, while invisibility can render a whole class, race, caste or gender unseen.”
The Myth of Steadiness vs. Speed
“‘The Tortoise and the Hare,’ one of Aesop’s fables (sixth century B.C.), doesn’t necessarily strike a younger person as promising — possibly it has a whiff of morality in it,” says Yiyun Li, 53, the author of “A Thousand Years of Good Prayers” (2005) and “Dear Friend, From My Life I Write to You in Your Life” (2017). “But the longer I live and work, the more I understand that it’s the tortoiseness in a person that carries one along, not the swiftness of the mind and body of the hare.”
The Myth of Magic
“Ancient magical tales like Homer’s ‘Odyssey’ (late eighth to early seventh century B.C.) were allegories of transformation, of secret teachings,” says Okri, “whereas modern forms of magic are narrative devices and tropes of storytelling that continue the child’s wonder of life. I think of F. Scott Fitzgerald’s ‘The Great Gatsby’ (1925), Gabriel García Márquez’s ‘One Hundred Years of Solitude’ (1967) and, again, the ‘Harry Potter’ books. The intuition of magic persists even in these atheistic and science-infested times, where nothing is to be believed if it can’t be subjected to analysis. This is perhaps because the ultimate magic confronts us every day in the mystery of consciousness. That we can see anything is magical; that we experience love is magical; and perhaps the most magical thing of all is the imagination’s unending power to alter the contents and coordinates of reality. It hides tenaciously in the act of reading, which is the most generative act of magic.”
The Myth of the Immortal Soul
“ ‘The soul is birthless and eternal, imperishable and timeless and is not destroyed when the body is destroyed,’ says Krishna in the ‘Bhagavad Gita’ (second century-first century B.C.). This belief in the immortality of the soul — what used to be called Pythagoreanism in ancient Greece — is still the most pervasive myth in India,” says Taseer, “and has more influence over behavior and how one lives one’s life than any other.”
These interviews have been edited and condensed.
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