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Karla Sofía Gascón says life as a trans woman informed her role in 'Emilia Pérez'
Karla Sofía Gascón plays the title role in Jacques Audiard’s film Emilia Pérez.
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Karla Sofia Gascón is living the time of her life. She plays the title role in the new film Emilia Pérez, the world’s first Mexican cartel musical focusing on a trans woman, out now in U.S. theaters and streaming on Netflix starting Wednesday. It’s an audacious cinematic experience unlike any other, dreamed up by renegade French director Jacques Audiard (Rust and Bone, A Prophet, The Beat That My Heart Skipped).
Gascón became the first trans actress to win a major prize at the Cannes Film Festival with the Best Actress Award, which she shared with the movie’s other female leads — Selena Gomez, Adriana Paz and Zoe Saldaña. The feature also scored the Jury Prize following an 11-minute standing ovation. And there are now Oscar nomination whispers for Gascón.
When we first meet Gascón’s character, she is known as “Manitas” del Monte, a Mexican cartel leader who rules by fear and deadly force. But Manitas reveals to a lawyer (Saldaña) that she wants to undergo gender-affirming surgery and to live as her true self, as a woman. The cartel leader fakes her death and moves to London, emerging four years later as Emilia Pérez.
Gascón, who herself transitioned in 2018, insisted on playing both parts of the role. Audiard had initially intended for Manitas and Emilia to be played by two different actors.
“This just simply would not have been the same if you had had two different actors, an actor and an actress, a trans actor with a cis actress or cis actor,” Gascón told NPR’s A Martínez. “This was an opportunity and I pushed for it because this was something that had never been done … and this was perfectly constructed.”
Selena Gomez, center, lets loose as Jessi, the wife of a drug lord known as “Manitas” in Jacques Audiard’s Emilia Pérez.
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Gascón, who is Spanish and lives in Mexico, had direct input into some of the scenes, which Paris-born Audiard changed as a result — despite the two not sharing a common language.
In one specific case, a scene was originally written to show Emilia exploding into physical violence against Manitas’ one-time wife Jessi (Gomez). But after input from Gascón, the scene was changed into simply an emotional fury.
Gascón describes the role as a character study of “the good and the bad” or “the light and the dark” that lives in all human beings.
French director Jacques Audiard, seen here on the set of Emilia Pérez, has blended genres and pushed creative boundaries in his film career.
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The film similarly takes the audience on a journey from the depths of reckless violence to comedy — like a musical number (choreographed by Damien Jalet) set in a Thai plastic surgery facility where the patients on gurneys are sent twirling in concentric circles over explanations of “Mammoplasty! Vaginoplasty! Rhinoplasty!”
There are moments of delicate tenderness, such as one between Emilia and a child that evokes Michelangelo’s Pietà sculpture of Jesus and Mary.
Other scenes reach a philosophical plane, such as when Saldaña tells an Israeli surgeon: “Changing the body changes society.” It comes as little surprise, then, that Audiard had initially imagined the story as an opera libretto (based on Boris Razon’s 2018 novel Écoute, or Listen).
Zoe Saldaña’s character Rita Moro Castro (left) meets her one-time client for the first time as Emilia Pérez (right).
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Manitas “was trying to survive and could not be herself in the world that she had to live in,” Gascón said. “So she had to pretend in order to survive. And that is something that we humans often do. We try to please others, but we are not living our own life. We’re not living for ourselves.”
That experience of losing yourself in a spurious identity is painfully familiar to Gascón, who recalls someone close to her abandoning her as she was transitioning. “In my case, I had to choose to live my own life. And in order to do that, I had to get out of the darkness … [I was] in this deep hole, lost and even wanting to leave this Earth,” she recalled.
Gascón says she brings her characters to life through what she has lived. “Without having been through misfortunes and the hardships of life, we cannot bring that on to a role,” she said. “Had I gotten this role about 20 years ago, I don’t think that that would have been able to give it the same depth that I’m giving it now at 52.”
In a musical and dance number, lawyer Rita Moro Castro (Zoe Saldaña) calls out the corruption of business and political leaders.
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In the film, her character’s physical transition is accompanied by a moral one, with Emilia launching a restorative justice charity that helps the families of cartel victims, including those once targeted by Manitas. She also falls in love.
“We cannot redeem, fix or undo our past sins. But what we can do is we can do things better,” Gascón said. “That’s the real message of the movie.”
Anticipating the millions of people who might see the film, Gascón spoke of a “social responsibility” that accompanies her role. “I would like to see this as a grain of sand to help marginalized communities to become less marginalized, to be able to be part of society regardless of your sexuality, your skin color,” she said. “It’s ridiculous that I’m the first, but at the same time wonderful.”
The digital version of this story was edited by Adriana Gallardo and Olivia Hampton. It was produced by Claire Murashima. The digital version was edited by James Doubek.
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Shy on the dance floor? Virtual reality ‘partners’ aim to help you find your groove
Entrepreneur David Huang tests out a VR headset while conducting demonstrations of the social dance lesson app Dance Guru at the Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, Calif., June 17, 2026.
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Wedding season is in full swing, bringing with it a familiar sense of dread for anyone who fears the dance floor.
But relief may finally be at hand with the help of a new app, Dance Guru, and a virtual reality (VR) headset.
The social dance instruction app transports users to a spacious, digital dance studio. Waiting inside is a computer-generated coach: a handsome, male avatar wearing a shirt open to his navel. He speaks with a slightly gravelly English accent.
“Watch me now,” he instructs at the start of a waltz lesson — which NPR tried out at the Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, Calif., an annual conference showcasing the latest developments in virtual and augmented reality.
The avatar then demonstrates a basic box step.

From there, the lesson becomes interactive. The coach tells the user to hold his hand while an electric pinging sound tracks the student’s foot placement.
“One, two, three, four, five, six,” the virtual teacher counts down.
When the user stumbles, he remains remarkably patient. “Do not worry, foundations take time. Let’s try that again. Work on grounding your steps more intentionally.”
Solving the beginner’s dilemma
Dance Guru creator David Huang said he came up with the idea for the app a couple of years ago out of frustration.
“I always wanted to learn to dance and I was always terrible at it,” Huang said. “And I always ended up stopping midway through the lessons.”
He soon realized that many beginners hit the exact same roadblocks.
“Private lessons are too expensive, and you feel like you’re always forgetting the dance steps,” Huang said. “You cannot find a partner to dance with. So I figured maybe I can create something like this.”
The Dance Guru platform currently offers tutorials in salsa, bachata, waltz, and cha-cha, in both lead and follow modes. To make the digital instruction feel authentic, Huang used motion-capture technology to record the movements of real-life dance teachers — with their permission.
Building on the legacy of online tutorials and video games
Dance Guru belongs to a small but growing wave of apps using VR to demystify social dance. At a nearby booth, conference attendee Victor Chen is testing out a competing app called Trip the Light. It currently offers salsa lessons, as well as freestyle options, where a user can dance with a partner without having to learn specific steps.
Trip the Light’s booth at the Augmented World Expo included posters of the app’s virtual instructors. Real-life performers, who gave Trip the Light permission to motion capture their movements, were used as a basis for these avatars.
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“A lot of times when you’re trying to learn a choreography, it’s watching a YouTube video and you have to pause it, rewind, and play it,” Chen said. “If you were to have a virtual avatar dancing in front of you and correcting for any parts that you missed, it might be a lot easier.”
Interactive video games like Dance Dance Revolution and Just Dance, and YouTube tutorials have been helping people improve their skills in private for years. But those games are mostly aimed at solo players. Unlike the new generation of immersive VR apps, they cannot simulate the mechanics or confidence required for partner dancing on a live dance floor.
The reality check
But this kind of app won’t work for every dancer.
“Everyone learns a little bit differently. And so unless you have a game that has lots of different ways of teaching, you’re going to have things that work for some people and don’t work for others,” said Ariana Katana, a trained contemporary dancer and dance content creator who’s active on YouTube, Twitch and other platforms. “Also, it’s hard to dance with a headset on.”
And then there’s the issue of not being able to physically feel a virtual partner’s hand or shoulder while dancing with them. Patrick Ascolese, the creator of Trip the Light, said the experience could become more tactile in the future. “Haptic suits and wearables will be coming, but I think we’re a little away from that,” he said.
Ascolese said even with their limitations, immersive tools like Trip the Light have immense potential as judgment-free training grounds — giving reluctant dancers the baseline confidence they need to eventually step onto the dance floor with real partners in the real world, including at weddings.
“Just like anything else, practice makes perfect,” said Ascolese. “So the more time you spend in VR with a virtual partner, it works towards helping you get over that social hurdle. We are teaching you the moves that you have to do in order to go out and have fun.”
Jennifer Vanasco edited the broadcast and digital versions of this story. Chloee Weiner mixed the audio.




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How to have the best Sunday in L.A., according to Deidre Hall
For half a century, Deidre Hall has taken on every kind of disaster in the drama-packed town of Salem, Ill., as a star of “Days of Our Lives.”
There was the time — actually, it happened twice — when her character, Dr. Marlena Evans, was famously possessed by the devil and even levitated.
In Sunday Funday, L.A. people give us a play-by-play of their ideal Sunday around town. Find ideas and inspiration on where to go, what to eat and how to enjoy life on the weekends.
Or the time a serial killer, who was actually Marlena under hypnosis, seemed to kill several beloved characters. The long-running show’s storylines have become legendary, and in March, while promoting “Hail Mary,” actor Ryan Gosling even gave Hall a shout-out, admitting he was a fan, praising the hard work of soap opera actors and calling her an “OG acting inspiration.”
But Hall’s real life in Santa Monica is much quieter than her character’s, and she likes it that way.
“When I bought my house in Santa Monica, I didn’t realize how great it would be to live near Montana Avenue,” says Hall, 78, about the popular shopping spot. Every day, she walks to the main street with her golden retriever, Riley, and enjoys Pilates, art and good food along the way. “The owners of the Farms Market even keep dog biscuits, so guess where the dog wants to go every time we walk — the Farms, of course,” she says, laughing.
When she isn’t filming the daily soap opera, which airs on Peacock, Hall enjoys raising monarch butterflies, exploring the shops and restaurants on Montana, and hosting movie nights at home with her two sons.
Here’s what a perfect day in L.A. looks like for her.
This interview has been lightly edited and condensed for length and clarity.
7 a.m.: Breakfast and dog walk
I usually kick off my day with a protein shake, feed our golden retriever and take her out for a walk. She’s a phenomenal girl. When we adopted her, her name was Riley, but I did think about naming her after Mrs. Hughes from “Downton Abbey.”
10 a.m.: Church and garden time
After I walk the dog and go to church, I like to spend some time in my yard. I’m not a natural gardener, but I really enjoy it. I started raising monarch butterflies because my identical twin sister, who played my twin on the show, planted a butterfly garden. Monarchs are amazing because they are transitional. Every year, they travel from Mexico to southern New England, but it’s getting harder for them. Their numbers have dropped by about 80%. To help, I plant milkweed, which is what they need to survive. I buy my milkweed from the Staghorn Garden on Wilshire Boulevard in Santa Monica. Julie, who owns the nursery, is delightful and has a wide variety of milkweed. The monarchs always seem to find my garden. Julie was raising some caterpillars too, and she cared a lot about them. We talked about how important it is to help the butterflies. That’s why I do this. Sometimes I get milkweed with eggs already on it, and Julie knows her butterflies are going to a good home.
1 p.m.: Walk to Montana Avenue for some lunch
I live near Montana and love taking long walks, going to Pilates and trying out the great restaurants nearby, like R+D Kitchen and La La Land. I’m a big fan of the waffles at the Courtyard Kitchen. Just a few days ago, I had a chicken salad on raisin bread with an Arnold Palmer, and it was delicious. It is right on Montana and has a nice outdoor seating area. It’s one of my favorite spots. La La Land always has a long line in the morning, which is perfect if you want coffee. They serve coffee, doughnuts, croissants and avocado toast. There’s plenty of outdoor seating, and you can even bring your dog.
2 p.m.: Peek inside a clock shop
There’s a small clock shop on Montana Avenue that’s closed on Sundays, but if you walk by, you’ll see all kinds of clocks — standing, table and wall clocks. The owner is great at fixing them. Once, I bought a wall clock from MacKenzie-Childs, but it didn’t work. And I was really upset because it matched everything else on my countertop. I brought it to the owner and said, “I love this, but I can’t make it work.” He fixed it right away. His name is John, but I call him Geppetto. And we all know why. He really does have a magic touch.
2:30 p.m.: Visit a neighborhood art gallery
Ten Women Gallery is run by 10 artists, all of whom show their work there. I was drawn to some watercolors there, bought a few cards and spoke with one of the artists. She told me, “You seem to love watercolors,” and mentioned that the artist who painted them, Pamela Harnois, lives in Los Angeles and teaches nearby. I got Pamela’s name and found out she taught at the Brentwood Art School. I was so inspired by her gift that I started taking private lessons with her on Saturdays. That gallery is where I discovered my love for watercolor painting.
3 p.m.: Grab some ice cream at Rori’s
The other day, my longtime girlfriend wanted to get ice cream and told me, “We are walking to Rori’s Artisanal Creamery.” It’s a small shop on Montana near Lincoln. They make everything themselves, using local ingredients from grass-fed cows with no added hormones. The place is family-owned and probably has the healthiest ice cream you’ll find. They switch up their flavors often, but my favorite is the salted caramel.
6 p.m.: Family dinner and movie night at home
R+D Kitchen is always packed, so my sons, who are 31 and 33, do the cooking. They come over, and together we make salads and cook dinner. There’s a neighborhood grocery store called the Farms, off Montana, a small family-run place that has everything we need. Everyone knows each other there, and people bring their dogs. We try to have movie night every Sunday. Sometimes the day changes, but we always make sure to have one night a week where we cook a meal and sit down as a family. Keeping that tradition has become really important to us. My sons are great cooks, which is funny because they definitely didn’t get that from me. [Laughs]
9 p.m.: Take Riley for one last walk and visit neighbors
After dinner, I take my dog for a walk. It’s a great way to meet neighbors. We always go around the same block. We’ve met so many people, and since she’s a golden retriever, she loves meeting everyone.
10 p.m.: News, knitting and bedtime
I am a news junkie, so I usually watch whatever is on the news before I go to bed. I have a long-standing passion for knitting. Lately, though, the news would make me drop a stitch.
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