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Even its stars can't describe the genre-bending 'Emilia Pérez': 'Rarer than a green dog'

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Even its stars can't describe the genre-bending 'Emilia Pérez': 'Rarer than a green dog'

“Emilia Pérez” is a miracle of a film about the boldness it takes to blaze one’s own journey into uncharted territory. As its title character embarks on a gender transition that whisks her away from her violent drug-dealing past and into a placid domestic future, director Jacques Audiard concocts a dizzying Spanish-language musical whose outward bombastic flair anchors an intimate focus on the inner lives of women in contemporary Mexico.

When the movie won the actress award at this May’s Cannes Film Festival, the recognition was given to its ensemble: Karla Sofía Gascón, Zoe Saldaña and Selena Gomez shared the award (along with their co-star Adriana Paz). That’s no doubt because their contributions to this equally campy and earnest musical signal a truly collaborative endeavor.

Just don’t describe it as a “narco-musical.”

“I really don’t like when journalists label it that or focus just on that,” says Gascón, 52, a Spanish actor who has steadily been working in Mexico since 2009 and who famously came out as trans in 2018.

“If you think about it, there’s not much talk of drug crime here,” she adds, in her native Spanish. “There’s no narcotráfico here. It’s just not there. I just don’t understand this need by some journalists to lean into all these sensationalist headlines — narco this, trans that. I’ll say what I’ve always said: This is not a documentary.”

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Zoe Saldaña, left, and Karla Sofía Gascón in the movie “Emilia Pérez.”

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As the three actors pointed out while speaking to The Times on a Sunday afternoon following a Hollywood BAFTA screening, “Emilia Pérez” (in limited release Nov. 1; then on Netflix Nov. 13) is a film that is hard to distill into any one thing. Or into any neat label. Sinking into the oversized blazer she’d donned for the post-screening Q&A they’d all convened for, Gomez recalls being intrigued by what was on the page. “I kind of was like, I don’t know how this movie is going to be made, but I knew that it would be something spectacular,” she says.

Gascón, having done away with her heels for the duration of our chat, spells it out more colorfully: “When I first read the script, I thought it would never get made. Because it was so special. So weird. So different. I just never thought we’d be able to make it. I thought it was a kind of dream. But I said that if we were to make it, it’d be like ‘The Rocky Horror Picture Show’ or something like that. I mean, it’s rarer than a green dog. It’s just not normal.”

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“Then again, I’m rarer than a blue dog,” Gascón quips.

A fabulously fantastic musical about a cruel cartel leader (Gascón, in the title role) who chooses to begin a gender transition and leave behind his old life as Juan “Manitas” Del Monte, not to mention his kids and young wife, Jessi (Gomez), “Emilia Pérez” is a twisty thriller where strong-willed women (such as Saldaña’s Rita, an attorney and confidante to Emilia) cannot escape the jagged violence that lurks in every corner. It’s also a tender tale about the perils and promises of starting over that owes as much to Mexico’s trite telenovelas as it does to its big-hearted melodramas.

The story takes place in a fable-like version of Mexico, one conceived by a French filmmaker (with music written by singer-songwriter Camille and composer Clement Ducol) and shot on a soundstage in Paris. And the script was fully written out in French, English and Spanish. But for Saldaña and Gomez, the film was more grounding than you might expect — a chance for them to reconnect with their roots.

“Spanish is the first language I was spoken to,” Saldaña, 46, shares, shuttling back and forth between English and Spanish as we talk.

“My mom sang me lullabies in Spanish. So the body keeps score. There’s a recognition of home that I had started yearning for. I wasn’t actively pursuing a film like ‘Emilia Perez’ and a role like Rita, but I needed it. ‘Emilia Perez’ was a medicinal experience for me.”

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The “Avatar” star is magnetic as Rita, a good-natured lawyer who soon becomes Emilia’s right hand when the two establish a nonprofit designed to help bring closure to families looking for those who have been disappeared amid Mexico’s cartel violence. In “El Mal,” a tour-de-force musical number staged at a glitzy fundraising gala, Rita sings and spits bars feverishly about the moral compromises she’s had to make to bring Emilia’s well-meaning foundation come to life.

Zoe Saldaña in the movie "Emilia Pérez."

Zoe Saldaña in the movie “Emilia Pérez.”

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Wearing an instantly iconic red velvet pantsuit with a white tee, Saldaña and her exacting dance moves match beat for beat with her righteous rapping. Like many of the numbers throughout “Emilia Pérez,” Rita’s anthemic set piece is a dream sequence in which the corrupt guests seated around her can’t hear her fury.

For Gomez’s role of Jessi, meanwhile, the “Only Murders in the Building” foil admits she found much in common with a young Mexican American woman who’s constantly searching for ways of being ever more comfortable — in her body, in her home, in her own language. Not for nothing is her standout number, the catchy pop tune, “Mi Camino,” an ode to self-love that finds Gomez cooing, “Quiero quererme a mí misma” (“I want to love myself as I am”)

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“I knew specifically Jessi’s story was enticing for me,” says Gomez, 32, speaking to her years of experience in the public eye, “because I’ve been in those situations where you’re placed in an area and you’re like, ‘This is my environment. And I have to just revolve around whatever fits for everyone else.’ I could feel that urgency from her to break free and be her own person.”

Nevertheless, the role of Jessi is unlike anything the Emmy-nominated multi-hyphenate has done before. The character is first introduced as a narco wife (in bleach-blond dyed hair and a body-hugging dress to match) who cannot fathom the loss of her husband and moneyed lifestyle once Rita helps relocate her abroad.

A woman strides down a hallway.

Selena Gomez in the movie “Emilia Pérez.”

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Years later, Jessi is asked to return to Mexico to live with Emilia, a stranger to her but a woman who has been entrusted with giving Manitas’ surviving family everything they could ever need. Emilia, of course, has to hide her true identity from his ex-wife. It’s a gamble the film understands as key to how far Emilia has come and yet how close she wants to remain to the life she has left behind.

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Even as Gomez struggled performing in a language she’s not been fluent in since she was a child, she pushed herself to find the honesty in the material. Finding such aural nuances, Audiard admits, was not particularly his strength.

“If I needed, I had people who could translate,” he says over Zoom from across town with the help of a translator himself. “But I don’t always need to understand what is being said. You need to stay in motion and in expression. You need to make music. I think what’s really interesting is the musicality of the text. The musicality of what is sung or spoken is enough.”

Some of the most piercing instances in Emilia’s journey rely on Audiard’s penchant for indelible imagery. In a pivotal scene when the audience first sees Emilia post-transition following her many gender-affirming surgeries, the filmmaker captures her in a quiet moment of complete vulnerability. As we watch Emilia clasping on her bra, readying to leave the hospital once and for all, she’s trying out her new name for size.

Yo soy Emilia Pérez,” she says over and over again, modulating her intonation ever so slightly. As if she were trying to find the voice that’s long eluded her, a voice far removed from the raspy Brando-in-”Apocalypse Now” mixed with Stallone’s Rambo that Gascón had developed for his crime lord Manitas.

“Obviously that was a very difficult scene to shoot,” Gascón adds. “I had to laugh. I had to cry. And I was naked with all of these scars and everything else. Mentally it was quite taxing. That moment we shot from all sorts of angles. But it really was more beautiful from behind. I remember seeing the shot and telling Jacques, “This has to be the poster. It captures everything about the film.” And he had this notebook with him and he turned to me — I think I was really annoying him at this point — and he goes, “You want to direct the film? Take it!””

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Such playful bickering characterized the collaboration Gascón and Audiard developed over the yearlong process of fleshing out Emilia and her story. When Audiard cast Gascón, a veteran actor who’s been working steadily since 1994, he knew he’d found a tireless co-conspirator, one who helped reimagine the role away from the young, hardened protagonist he’d first envisioned. Gascón would often spend her time away from set writing and rewriting dialogue and jotting down ideas she would text the director late into the night. She helped shape Emilia — almost in her own image.

“What I gave to Emilia was my everything,” Gascón says. “My heart and soul. One of my very first jobs was as a puppeteer in Italian and Spanish television. I remember the first time I saw one of the puppets, just laying there, a rag and a plastic head. And I gave them a voice. Gave them their soul. And then, they sort of came alive and became quite famous. I got the same feeling here. That feeling of the power of creation. There’s nothing there and then, all of a sudden, there’s life. It truly feels as if I’ve given her my all.”

Gascón only half-jokes that she is still searching for ways to get what she left onscreen. “I gave Emilia my entire soul. And I’ve had to come back and recover it for myself again, almost.”

“It was a mixture of an experiment and an experience.” Saldaña adds. “I liked the experimental side of it. And we only achieved that because Jacques was not possessive over his words, his lines. That was incredibly collaborative. But also very freeing.”

The rehearsals and workshops that took place before any shooting was done allowed for each actor to feel emboldened to voice concerns or suggestions. There was little room for improvisation on set, but the endless rewriting Audiard did on the script allowed him to incorporate helpful and insightful feedback from cast and crew alike.

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“I don’t take every idea,” Audiard clarifies. “But I always listen to my actors.”

Gomez experienced that trust firsthand when an early demo written for Jessi that she deemed too racy was cut from the film. (Audiard is convinced the song may well show up in one of Camille’s future albums.) Nimble pivots were central to the entire process. Jessi’s “Mi Camino,” for instance, was never storyboarded as a karaoke number. “We had weeks of dance rehearsal for that song,” Gomez recalls. “But on the day we were shooting, Jacques just loved the karaoke. He was just like, ‘Keep going! Keep going!’”

There’s no shortage of such moments throughout “Emilia Pérez.” Many of them are rooted in the raw vulnerability Gomez, Saldaña and Gascón bring to Audiard’s maximalist musical. The frayed performances push past the film’s surreal-sounding logline and, by the time credits roll, they burrow themselves deep within the hearts of the audience.

“That’s the beauty of what this film is doing,” Saldaña says. “It doesn’t live in any one genre and yet it somehow crosses through them all.”

She recalls encountering viewers who, afterward, have been left speechless. “Words escape them,” she says. “They’re behind on their thoughts because they’re ahead with their hearts.”

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Maxime Giroux – ‘In Cold Light’ movie review

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Maxime Giroux – ‘In Cold Light’

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The action is relentless in the complex thriller In Cold Light, a tense combination of crime and fugitive tale and family drama. It is the third feature and first English language film by Maxime Giroux, best known for a very different kind of film, the critically acclaimed 2014 drama Felix & Meira.

The tension and high energy of In Cold Light almost overwhelm the film, but are relieved, barely, by moments of character development and introspection that keep the audience pulling for the restrained and outwardly cold main character. 

Speaking at the film’s Canadian premiere, director Giroux admitted he found creating an action film a challenge. Part of his approach was using very minimal dialogue, especially for the central character, letting the action speak for itself, and allowing silence to intensify suspense. Giroux has said he likes the lack of dialogue and speaks highly of the importance of silence in cinema; he prefers using “physical aspects of communication” in his films. 

Young Ava Bly (Maika Monroe) is a competent and businesslike drug dealer, working in partnership with her brother Tom (Jesse Irving) and a small team. As the film begins, Ava has just been released from a brief prison sentence. She is hoping to return to her former position, but her brother’s associates consider her a risk due to her recent incarceration. While she works to re-establish herself, a shocking encounter with a corrupt police officer sends Ava’s life into chaos and forces her to go on the run.

Ava’s fugitive experience introduces a new character, to whom Ava turns for help: her father, Will Bly, played by Troy Kotsur, known for his excellent performance in CODA. Their first interaction is handled in a fascinating way, as Will is deaf and the two communicate through sign language. This, of course, provides another form of the silent interaction the director prefers; he explained that much of the father-daughter interaction was rewritten with the actor in mind. Their conflict is nicely expressed through a scene in which their initial conversation is intermittently cut off by a faulty light which goes out periodically, making communication through sign momentarily impossible, nicely expressing the rift between father and daughter. 

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As Ava continues to evade danger, her escape becomes complicated by new information, placing her in a painful dilemma. We gradually learn more about Ava, her background, and her character through occasional flashbacks and glimpses of her dreams. The plot becomes more complex and more poignant, and gains features of a mystery as well as an action tale, as she is pressed to choose from among equally unacceptable alternatives.

The climax of her efforts to protect both herself and those close to her comes to a head as she meets with the director of a rival drug gang. Veteran actress Helen Hunt is perfect in the minor but significant role of Claire, the rival drug lord, who plays odd mind games with Ava in an intriguing psychological fencing match. It’s an unusual scene, in which Ava’s personality is made clearer, and Claire’s understated dominance and casual speech do not quite conceal the threat she represents. 

The frantic pace and emotional turmoil are enhanced by the camera work, which tends to focus tightly on Ava, and by a harsh, minimal musical score that sets the tone without distracting from the action. Giroux chose to shoot the film in Super 60; he describes digital as “too perfect” for the look he was going for, and since “Ava is rough,” the film portrays her better. The director describes the entire movie as “rough,” in fact, and deliberately chose a dark, washed-out look for much of the footage, occasionally using light and colour, in the form of fireworks, lightning, or a colourful carnival, to both relieve and emphasise the darkness. 

The dynamic, intense story holds the attention in spite of the lengthy, sometimes repetitive chase scenes and subdued dialogue. Ava’s predicament, and the difficult decisions she is forced to make, are made surprisingly relatable, from the initial disaster that starts the action to the surprising flash-forward that concludes the film, on as high a note as the situation could allow. Fans of action movies will definitely enjoy this one.

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Meet the Mexican American talent behind ‘KPop Demon Hunters’

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The House of Pies, a Los Feliz institution, is bustling on a chilly January morning.

It wouldn’t be shocking if some of the patrons here for breakfast were casually chit-chatting about the cultural behemoth that “KPop Demon Hunters” has become. After all, the 2025 animated saga about three music stars fighting otherworldly foes is now the most-watched movie ever on Netflix; “Golden,” its showstopping track, has since become the first Korean pop song to ever win a Grammy.

But for Danya Jimenez, 29, who sits across from me sipping coffee, the reception to the movie she began writing on back in 2020 isn’t entirely surprising, but certainly delayed.

“When we first started working on it, I was like, ‘People are going to be obsessed with this. It’s going to be the best thing ever,’” she recalls. But as several years passed, and she and her writing partner and best friend Hannah McMechan, 30, moved on to other projects. They weren’t sure if “KPop” would ever see the light of day. Production for animation takes time.

It wasn’t until she learned that her Mexican parents were organically aware of the movie that Jimenez considered it could actually live up to the potential she initially had hoped for.

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“Without me saying anything, my parents were like, ‘People are talking about this’ — like my dad’s co-workers or my aunt’s friends — that’s when I started to realize, ‘This might be something big,’” she says.

“But never in my life did I think it would be at this scale.”

“KPop Demon Hunters” is now nominated for two Academy Awards: animated feature and original song. And that’s on top of how ubiquitous the characters — Rumi, Mira and Zoey — already are.

“Everyone sends me photos of knockoff ‘KPop Demon Hunters’ dolls from across the border,” Jimenez says laughing. “My friend got me a shirt from Mexicali with the three girls, but they do not look anything like themselves. She even got my name on it, which was awesome.”

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After graduating from Loyola Marymount University in 2018, Jimenez and McMechan quickly found their footing in the industry, as well as representation. But it was their still unproduced screenplay, “Luna Likes,” about a Mexican American teenage girl obsessed with the late chef and author Anthony Bourdain, that tangentially put them on the “KPop” path.

“Luna Likes” earned the pair a spot at the prestigious Sundance Screenwriters Lab, where Nicole Perlman, who co-wrote “Guardians of the Galaxy,” served as one of their advisors. Perlman, credited as a production consultant on “KPop,” thought they would be a good fit.

Jimenez didn’t see the connection between her R-rated comedy about a moody Mexican American teen and a PG animated feature set in the world of K-pop music, but the duo still pitched. Their idea more closely resembled an indie dramedy than an epic action flick.

“If [our version of ‘KPop’] were live-action, it would’ve been a million-dollar budget. It was the smallest movie ever. Our big finale was a pool party,” Jimenez says. “We had all of the girls and the boys with instruments, which obviously is not a thing in K-pop, and everyone was making out.”

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Even though their original pitch wouldn’t work for the film, Maggie Kang, the co-director and also a co-writer, believed their voices as two young women who were best friends, roommates and creative collaborators could help the movie’s heroines feel more authentic.

“Maggie had already interviewed all of the more established writers, especially older men,” Jimenez says. “She knows the culture. She knew K-pop, she’s an animator. She just needed the girls’ voices to come through, so I think that’s why we got hired.”

Kang confirms this via email: “It’s always great to collaborate with writers who are the actual age of your characters! Hannah and Danya were exactly that,” she says. “They were very helpful in bringing a fresh, young voice to HUNTR/X.”

Neither Jimenez nor McMechan were K-pop fans at the time. As part of their research, they both started watching K-pop videos, but it was McMechan who got “sucked into the K-hole” first. Still, it didn’t take long until the video for BTS’ “Life Goes On” entranced Jimenez.

“K-pop is a river that you fall into, and it just takes you,” Jimenez says. BTS and Got7 are her favorite groups. For McMechan, the ensemble that captivates her most is Stray Kids.

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In writing the trio of demon hunters, the co-writers modeled them after themselves. The characters’ propensity for ugly faces, silliness and a bit of grossness too, stems from the portrayals of girlhood and young womanhood that appeal to them. Jimenez, who says she was an angsty teen, most closely identifies with the rebellious Mira.

“I have a monotone vibe,” says Jimenez. “People always think that I’m a bitch just because I have a resting bitch face,” she says. “But as you can see in the movie, Mira cares so much about having everyone be really close. I feel like that’s how I’m with all my friends.”

Characters with strong personalities that are not simplistically likable feel the truest to Jimenez. In “Luna Likes,” the prickly protagonist is directly inspired by her experiences growing up, as well as the bond she shared with her dad over Bourdain’s “Parts Unknown” show.

“There’s a pressure to show that Mexicans are nice people and we’re hard workers. I was like, ‘Let’s make her kind of bitchy and very flawed,’” Jimenez says about Luna. “She’s a teenager in America and she should be given all the same opportunities — and also the forgiveness for being an ass— and [as] selfish at that age as anybody else.”

Hannah McMechan, left, and Danya Jimenez, co-writers of "KPop Demon Hunters," in Los Angeles

Hannah McMechan, left, and Danya Jimenez, co-writers of “KPop Demon Hunters,” met in college.

(Carlin Stiehl / For The Times)

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Though their upbringings were markedly different, it was their shared comedic sensibilities that connected Jimenez and McMechan when they met in college. The two were close long before deciding to pen stories together. “Having a writing partner is the best. I feel bad for people who don’t have a writing partner, no offense to them,” says Jimenez.

McMechan explains that their writing partnership works because it’s grounded on true friendship. And she believes they would not have gotten this far without each other. While McMechan’s strong suit is looking at the bigger picture, Jimenez finds humor in the details.

“Danya is definitely funnier than me,” says McMechan. “It’s really hard to write comedy in dialogue versus comedy in a situation because if you’re putting the comedy in the dialogue, it can sound so forced and cringey. But she’s really good at making it sound natural but still really funny.”

Though she had been writing stories for herself as a teen, Jimenez didn’t consider it a career path until as a high schooler she watched the romantic comedy “No Strings Attached,” in which Ashton Kutcher plays a production assistant for a TV series.

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“He is having a horrible time. But I was so obsessed with movies and TV, and I was like, ‘That looks incredible. I want to be doing what he’s doing,’” she recalls. “And my dad was like, ‘That’s a job.’”

Danya Jimenez, one of the co-writers of "KPop Demon Hunters," stands near the Sunset Strip in Los Angeles.

Danya Jimenez grew up in Orange County.

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As an infant, Jimenez spent some time living in Tijuana, where her parents are from, until the family settled back in San Diego, where she was born. And when she was around 5 years old, Jimenez, an only child, and her parents relocated to Orange County. Until then, Jimenez mostly spoke Spanish, which made for a tricky transition when starting school.

“I knew English, but it just wasn’t a habit,” she recalls. “I would raise my hand and accidentally speak Spanish in class. My teachers would be like, ‘We’re worried about her vocabulary.’ That was always an issue, so it’s really funny that I turned out to be a writer.”

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As she points out in her professional bio, it was movies and TV that helped with her English vocabulary, especially the Disney sitcom “Lizzie McGuire.”

Jimenez describes growing up in Orange County with few Latinos around outside of her family as an alienating experience. She admits to feeling great shame for some of her behaviors as a teenager afraid of being treated differently and desperate to fit in.

“I would speak Spanish to my mom like in a corner because I didn’t want everyone else to hear me speak Spanish,” Jimenez confesses. “If my mom pulled up to school to drop me off playing Spanish hits from the ‘80s or banda, I was like, ‘Can you turn it down please?’”

Like a lot of young Latinos, she’s now taking steps to connect with her heritage, and, in a way, atone for those moments where she let what others might think rob her of her pride.

“During the pandemic I cornered my grandma to make all of her recipes again so I could write them down,” she recalls. “Now I have them all written down on a website. Or if my mom corrects me for something that I’m saying in Spanish, I now listen.”

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At the risk of angering her, Jimenez describes her mother as a “cool mom,” and compares her to Amy Poehler’s character in “Mean Girls.” Raised in a household without financial struggles, Jimenez doesn’t often relate to stories about Latinos in the U.S. that make it to film and TV. Her hope is to expand Latino storytelling beyond the tropes.

“That’s very important to me, to just tell Latino stories or Mexican stories in a way that’s just authentic to me and hopefully someone else is like, ‘Yes, that’s me,’” she says. “A lot of people have certain expectations for Latino stories that I’m not willing to compromise on.”

Though they still would like to make “Luna Likes” if given the chance, for now, Jimenez and McMechan will continue their rapid ascent.

They’re “goin’ up, up, up” because it is their “moment.” They recently wrapped the Apple TV show “Brothers” starring Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson that filmed in Texas. They are also writing the feature “Attack of the Fifty Foot Woman” for Tim Burton to direct, with Margot Robbie in talks to star.

“I feel like I’ve just been operating in a state of shock for the past, I don’t know how many months since June,” says Jimenez in her signature deadpan affect. “But if I think about it too much, I’d be a nervous wreck.”

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Jeremy Schuetze’s ‘ANACORETA’ (2022) – Movie Review – PopHorror

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PopHorror had the chance to check out Anacoreta (2022) ahead of its streaming release! Does this meta-horror flick provide interesting story telling or is it a confusing mess.

 

Let’s have a look…

Synopsis

A group of friends heads to a secluded woodland cabin for a weekend getaway, planning to film an experimental horror movie. As the shoot progresses, the project begins to fall apart—until a real and terrifying presence emerges from the darkness.

Anacoreta is directed by Jeremy Schuetze. It was written by Jeremy Schuetze and Matt Visser. The film stars Antonia Thomas (Bagman 2024), Jesse Stanley (Raf 2019), Jeremy Schuetze (Jennifer’s Body 2009), and Matt Visser (A Lot Like Christmas 2021)

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My Thoughts

Antonia Thomas delivered an outstanding performance as the female lead in Anacoreta. It was remarkable to watch her convey such a wide range of emotions with authenticity and depth. I was continually impressed by her ability to switch seamlessly between different dialects. I absolutely loved her delivery of the dialogue of telling The Scorpion and the Frog fable.

Anacoreta employs a distinctive, meta-horror style of storytelling. The narrative follows a group of friends creating a “scripted reality” horror film, and as the plot unfolds, the boundary between their staged production and their actual lives becomes increasingly blurred. This was interesting, but at the same time frustrating as a viewer.

Check out Anacoreta on Prime Video and let us know your thoughts!

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