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Montana Roofing Leaders Breaking Barriers and Building a Brighter Future
Montana
has its fair share of unique roofing challenges. Seasonality limits
timelines, while the varying landscapes and climates demand resilient
roofing systems. However, the expansive state also faces challenges that
roofing contractors everywhere understand.
Labor shortages
continue to hamper roofing companies, compounded by the difficulties of
recruiting younger generations more interested in being “influencers”
than climbing onto a roof. But in the Treasure State, two gems are
shining in the Montana Roofing Association’s crown, which indicates a
bright future for the industry.
At its 35th annual convention in
January, the MRA chose Morgan Thiel and Rachel Hoover as its president
and vice president, respectively, marking the first time in the
association’s history women held both roles. The move represents the
association’s desire to see the next generation lead the way and an
increased effort to make roofing more inclusive.
“I feel like
we’re in a unique space where we’ve both come from companies that have
really championed women – about half of my company is women,” Hoover
said. “I think that we’re seeing the desire to have more women in the
space because of the unique things we bring.”
Thiel and Hoover participating in the 2024 National Women in Roofing Days in Las Vegas. Photos courtesy of Rachel Hoover.
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Thiel
is a third-generation roofer — her father and uncle co-own Thiel Bros.
Roofing in Sidney, Mont., and she grew up working at the family business
during summers, something she continued to do in college. After
finishing her post-secondary education, she returned to work full-time
in 2018.
Her official title is project coordinator, but she dons
several hats in the company, whether handling project paperwork, running
machines or working on a roof.
“I felt very welcomed at every
level in this industry. And I think that’s a really good sign moving
forward,” Thiel said. “I know a lot of women did push through more
uncomfortable times for us to kind of get where we are, but yeah, I
think that’s a really positive direction that the roofing industry is
going.”
Thiel Bros. Roofing is also a founding member of the
Montana Roofing Association. As a result, Thiel attended MRA conventions
as a child, especially when her parents ran the events. Two years after
joining the company full-time, some of the members asked if she would
join the MRA’s convention committee. She took them up on the offer,
continuing a family legacy.
A year after that, Thiel became vice
president of the MRA, a position she held for three years until she
became president in 2024.
Hoover’s journey into roofing began two
years ago when she joined Ace Roofing in Wilsall, Mont., as its director
of marketing. However, it’s not her only connection to the industry.
Hoover’s grandfather owned a roofing company in Montana, which was also a
founding association member.
“It was really fun [connecting] with Morgan’s dad and uncle and hear stories about my grandpa,” Hoover said.
Ace
Roofing’s founder and president, Jake Magalsky, had served as president
of the MRA. In 2023, he asked Hoover if she would serve on the
association’s convention committee. Hoover was glad to step into the
role, where she worked alongside Thiel. When Thiel became president,
Hoover was elected vice president and chair of the convention committee.
Her
experience with event marketing, sponsorships, developing growth
strategies and community involvement through Ace Roofing have made her
an asset to the MRA.
“I’m not the one putting roofs on, but it’s an important role and something that I really enjoy doing,” Hoover said.
Although Thiel and Hoover may be a minority in the roofing industry, the duo’s rise to the top leadership positions is no fluke.
“I
think that the members that voted us in obviously see the value in
having some newer people that maybe are a little bit more innovative or
looking at [how] we can change things to make things better,” Hoover
said.
The Montana Roofing Association’s annual golf outing benefits its Cameron Sauter Memorial Scholarship. The program has granted more than $40,000 in scholarships since 1994.
Promoting Diversity and Inclusion
Changing
things for the better includes bringing more women into the workforce.
According to the National Roofing Contractors Association, in 2019,
women made up approximately 2% of the roofing labor force, one point
more than a decade earlier.
“A lot of people don’t really know
about it as an option,” Thiel said. “We’re from a small town in a remote
area, but a lot of people don’t really even know what we do or what
working at a roofing company looks like until they come and try it out.”
In
addition to the MRA initiatives, a Montana-Wyoming chapter of National
Women in Roofing is slowly but surely growing in membership. Thiel, who
heads the chapter, expressed that there can be difficulties bringing
people together in such a massive state, but the efforts are paying off.
“We
try to get a women’s lunch going at all our MRA events to grow that,”
Thiel said. “It’s incorporating those events to give women a place in a
[fairly] male-dominated industry.”
Thiel and Hoover emphasize
education as one of the cornerstones of their approach, drawing
inspiration from groups like the NRCA. Among their strategies are
reaching out to people seeking a different career and working with
schools to present roofing as a viable career path.
“Women are
really good with technical details and tend to be better at taking care
of paperwork and reports along with running a lot of the machinery we
operate that is more detail-oriented, so there are definitely companies
looking for women for specific roles,” Thiel said.
Looking to the Future
The
efforts go beyond gender. The MRA is pursuing ways to reach other
minorities in roofing and younger generations. This has included
bringing guest speakers to its conventions and seeking information and
resources from manufacturer partners.
“It’s shifting the
perception away from ‘it’s a summer job’ to a legitimate career path,
not just for women, but for men too,” Hoover said. “Most of the people
in our organization didn’t think they were going to go into roofing, and
they found a place and they made a good career out of it.”
Technology,
as a solution for making roofing more efficient with fewer workers,
continues to gain steam, though the construction industry is
traditionally a late adopter. Montana’s diverse landscape and remote
locations mean roofing companies vary wildly in what products they use,
whether on the roof or in the office, so making suggestions to MRA
membership isn’t one-size-fits-all.
“Everyone is struggling with
workforce issues these days, so this is just one way we’re looking to
solve that issue,” Thiel said.
Thiel admits her company might be
“behind the curve” in implementing technology but understands why —
companies with more extensive legacies have innate understandings of how
their operations work, so the urge to modernize can become an
afterthought.
“We’re pretty much always looking for something that
can work for us; it’s been a bit of a challenge finding programs that
will fit what we do, specifically us because, since we’re in such a
remote area, we do a lot of different things to serve our region,” Thiel
said.
By comparison, Ace Roofing has adopted various software
programs to streamline its operations. However, Hoover cautions that
companies must ensure they’re not bringing on tech simply because it is
new.
The duo points out that adopting technology is more than
using modern software and drones. The latest gadgets, tools and
equipment make roof applications easier than in past decades, and as
more advancements to roofing products hit the market, equipping crews
with them can make the job more appealing to those who perceive it as
grueling work.
“I think the other part of it, too, is I think
we’re all a bit unique. [Ace Roofing has] a fairly young team,
millennials and some Gen Z, so I think those generations are very eager
to implement new technology if it means working smarter, not harder,
which is great,” Hoover said.
The association’s approach to
tackling all these issues is multi-pronged. For instance, Hoover said
the MRA’s political committee has been active, meeting with state
lawmakers and representatives as recently as last March to garner
support for the industry.
“I think we’re involved in things on
multiple levels, making sure we’re serving the roofers of Montana and
serving our industry the best we can,” said Hoover.
Of course,
it’s not all work and no play for the MRA. The association holds an
annual golf tournament to support its scholarship and is hosting its
third annual fishing trip at Flathead Lake in July.
As they lead
the MRA into the future, Thiel and Hoover are grateful for the
association and the support they’ve received from its membership. Both
readily seek advice to fill the gaps in their knowledge.
“We have a
lot of older members who have been around a long time and have a great
deal of knowledge, experience, and wisdom that guide us a lot,” Thiel
said. “We have a lot of people who have grown up, like me, [as] children
of founding members that are in leadership positions now, which is cool
to see, and then we also have quite a few new people stepping in … it’s
cool to see different perspectives from different groups.”
Hoover agreed that having that depth of information has been invaluable.
“I
feel like they’ve really kind of taken us under their wing; they’ve
been mentoring us and giving us advice on the things that work [and] the
things that haven’t, and it’s just been such an amazing wealth of
knowledge,” she said.
Montana
SLIDESHOW: Severe storms moved through western Montana on Thursday
Severe storms moved through parts of Montana on Thursday, prompting a total of 5 Severe Thunderstorm Warnings. Reports included strong wind gusts and hail in several communities, including Augusta, Choteau, Sunburst, Bigfork, Kalispell and Evergreen.
The strongest reported wind gust was 60 mph near Augusta, while hail up to 1 inch was reported near Evergreen and Kalispell.
STORM REPORTS:
12 SE Grant — 56 mph thunderstorm wind gust
7 NNE Augusta — 60 mph thunderstorm wind gust
5 ENE Choteau — 59 mph thunderstorm wind gust
Sunburst — 54 mph thunderstorm wind gust
Ennis — 59 mph thunderstorm wind gust
3 SSW Ennis — 52 mph thunderstorm wind gust
2 E Helena — 54 mph thunderstorm wind gust
19 E Swan Lake — 56 mph thunderstorm wind gust
2 NNW Yaak — thunderstorm wind damage – Multiple downed trees reported along Highway 2 between MM 3 and 8
3 WSW Blacktail — 53 mph thunderstorm wind gust
1 NNW Troy — 49 mph thunderstorm wind gust
5 ENE Choteau — 56 mph thunderstorm wind gust
Turah — 0.88″ hail
1 NNW Bigfork — 0.75″ hail
3 SW La Salle — 0.50″ hail
2 N Evergreen — 1.00″ hail
1 W Kalispell — 1.00″ hail
3 WNW Kalispell — 0.75″ hail
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Las Vegas man sentenced after Helena coin shop burglary in Montana
LAS VEGAS (KSNV) — A man from Las Vegas has been sentenced after stealing coins and precious metals from a Helena shop in Montana.
This comes after Bishop Lott, 47, pleaded guilty in January to one count of interstate transportation of stolen property.
A judge sentenced Lott on Thursday to 27 months in prison, followed by three years of supervised release. He was also ordered to pay $276,153.08 in restitution to the Helena business as well as five other theft victims.
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The government alleged in court documents that Lott, along with Ricky Rynell Rose, broke into Wayne Miller Coins in Helena and stole nearly $59,000 in coins and precious metals from a Helena business.
Rose pleaded guilty last year and was sentenced to 39 months in prison.
The Helena Police Department received a call on March 3, 2024, reporting that Wayne Miller Coins had been burglarized earlier that day.
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As part of their investigation, Helena police officers reviewed surveillance footage from multiple businesses. They analyzed email account data, which led them to Lott and Rose, who had taken the stolen material to Nevada.
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A battle over dark money is brewing in Hawaii and Montana
Political spending that is funneled into elections from a variety of nonprofits is known as dark money — and unlike campaign spending or the money deployed by PACs and super PACs, these sources are not required to disclose their donors. Following the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision, which created the country’s current election spending landscape, this has ramped up dramatically, with the 2024 election seeing a record $1.9 billion in dark money spending, nearly double the $1 billion spent in 2020. Now, some campaign finance reformers think they’ve found a state-level reform that can rein in this spending.
Now, campaign finance reformers think they’ve found a solution, and it’s already in place in Hawaii.
A newly enacted corporate law, SB 2471, changes the powers that corporations, or other artificial persons like nonprofits, are granted by the state of Hawaii. In the United States, states grant artificial persons powers as part of an agreement that allows those artificial persons to operate in the state. SB 2471 works by changing the powers that Hawaii grants these entities to disallow them from spending on politics at all.
Tom Moore, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress and former chief of staff to Federal Election Commission commissioner Ellen Weintraub, told Salon that the law operates upstream of Citizens United by dealing with the powers granted to corporations and other artificial persons, rather than trying to regulate what they can and cannot do with those powers.
“Citizens United said, ‘Hey, if you’re a corporation that is empowered to spend in politics, your right to spend independently in politics can’t be infringed,’” Moore said. “Fine. What this [Hawaiian law] does is say, ‘You know, we’re not going to create that kind of corporation anymore. We’re going to create the kind of corporation that doesn’t have any political spending powers.’ Citizens United and all the other campaign finance cases that the courts have ever decided do not speak to that.”
In his analysis, Moore said this strategy also has a better chance of standing up to scrutiny from the Supreme Court because courts have long upheld a state’s ability to assign powers to corporations operating within their borders, going back hundreds of years.
“They’re gimmicks, and the Supreme Court is not usually impressed by gimmicks.”
“The Supreme Court has said for 200 years that the states can do whatever they want in terms of assigning powers to corporations. They made a fatal assumption in Citizens United that 100 years ago, when states gave away all the powers and said, ‘You can do anything that a human could do,’ they assumed that states would never change their mind on that,” Moore said. “But they never said the states couldn’t change their mind on that, and now they are.”
For example, a recent court ruling in Delaware allowed a change to a town charter that would allow corporations to vote there under some circumstances.
Moore believes that this Hawaiian law, and others like it in the works in other states, have a good chance of surviving at the Supreme Court. However, some critics disagree, saying this legal maneuver is likely to be struck down.
Brad Smith, the chairman and founder of the Institute for Free Speech, a nonprofit that advocates against limits on political speech, including political spending, called the move an “end run” around Citizens United.
“They’re gimmicks, and the Supreme Court is not usually impressed by gimmicks. If you want to do it, you probably have to change the makeup of the Supreme Court or be willing to pack the court and have the political muscle to do it,” Smith said.
In his opinion, the court is likely to see Hawaii’s law as a violation of the First Amendment and is unlikely to look favorably on the argument that these laws deal with powers rather than with rights and that this has to do with how corporations have changed in the past 200 years.
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Smith explained that in the past, states used to create bespoke statutes for corporations to do something like operate a ferry or a toll bridge. These days, however, the laws governing corporations are more uniform.
“That’s just not how corporations operate in the modern world,” Smith said.
Smith added that he suspects the court will see this law as conditioning the creation of a corporation, or similar artificial person, on forfeiting the right of the people forming a corporation to political speech in the form of spending.
“You could not have the state say we’re going to allow you to register your home, but only if you agree that you won’t spend any money from your home equity line of credit on any kind of political activity,” Smith said. “You can’t deny people the benefits of the law based on a determination that they give up some type of constitutional rights.”
Notably, under Hawaii’s law, the people who form corporations are still allowed to engage in political spending; it’s just that the artificial person in question is disallowed. Still, Smith said, he believes the court will still see the law as unconstitutional.
What’s clear is that this new law, or one like it, will likely be headed to the Supreme Court and that’s because there are already other states where people are mobilizing to create similar laws.
Jeff Mangan, the founder and president of the Transparent Election Initiative, is already spearheading an effort to get a similar statute on the ballot in Montana in 2026, telling Salon that the group is only about 1,000 signatures away from meeting the petition requirements, with four weeks left.
“It’s an all-volunteer effort in Montana, we don’t have any paid signature gatherers, and it’s something that hasn’t been seen in a couple of decades here,” Mangan said.
While election finance reform is typically seen as a progressive issue, Mangan said that the initiative has been well-received by Montanans of all political leanings and that he’s optimistic that the measure will pass, though he’s expecting a significant political battle once the ballot measure is approved.
“We start with a very simple question: Do you believe there’s too much money in politics?” Mangan said. “Citizens will say ‘Yes,’ and they may not agree exactly what the solution is, but we can all agree that there’s too much money in politics.”
Mangan acknowledged that the law, if passed in Montana, would be limited in that it only addresses dark money, which is a relatively small portion of political spending. While 2024 saw nearly $2 billion in dark money spent, it saw some $15 billion in outside political spending, according to the election spending watchdog OpenSecrets. Still, Mangan said, he’s already had organizers in all 50 states reach out expressing interest in the project and in starting similar efforts in their home states.
The Montana measure has also already survived a legal challenge at the Montana Supreme Court, which makes organizers optimistic that the law will survive a federal challenge. The court ruled that the law was not an infringement of rights because the law “speaks only to powers, not rights, and it does not expressly revoke any constitutional rights.”
Still, Mangan expects that his group and the supporters of the measure will have to fight tooth and nail to get the bill passed via referendum if and when it appears on the ballot in November.
“It’ll certainly be a David versus Goliath battle. They’ve already started. The Chamber of Commerce and industry groups attempted to stop the initiative right at the beginning of the signature-gathering phase. They sued the state to stop us from gathering signatures. They were unsuccessful,” Mangan said. “We expect litigation at every step of the way through this, not to mention whatever political campaign they choose to throw at us, and I would imagine it’ll be expensive and immense. It almost makes our point. Exactly the reason we need the Montana plan is because of exactly what we’re seeing being thrown against us.”
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