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Some say deputies response excessive after 73 teens detained at Carson mall

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Some say deputies response excessive after 73 teens detained at Carson mall

After more than 70 juveniles were detained and cited Saturday night in connection with a major disturbance at a mall in Carson, some parents and relatives of the kids are calling the law enforcement presence excessive.  

Deputies with the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department responded to the SouthBay Pavillion Mall around 5:30 p.m. on reports of a large and unruly gathering of an estimated 200 minors that prompted the mall to close earlier than normal.  

Authorities said that some of the juveniles were setting off illegal fireworks inside a store at the mall and that someone else started a fire inside of a trashcan.  

Dispersal orders were issued but the crowd reportedly refused to comply. Officials said that more law enforcement backup was called to the scene as the teens were disrupting business and endangering shoppers. 

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Sheriff’s deputies set up a perimeter and were, at one point, seen jumping into bushes to detain some of the teens, many of whom were seen scrambling to get out of the mall as law enforcement officers arrived.  

Jamila Buie’s 16-year-old nephew was one of the 73 teens detained and told KTLA that she believes the law enforcement response was over the top.  

“I feel like they should’ve only detained the ones that started the fire, not all the kids,” she explained to KTLA’s Carlos Saucedo. “It’s only 30 people. They said they had video of the kids that started the fire.” 

Deputies issued the minors citations for failure to disperse and disturbing the peace. Parents were forced to come and collect their children, with some saying their kids should never have been held by deputies.  

“He’s 11-year-old, exactly,” Amber Lyn, whose son was detained, told KTLA. “No paperwork, never been in trouble. He gets straight A’s and he’s an athlete.”  

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A similar incident occurred late last year at the Del Amo Fashion Center in Torrance that led to curfews and the requirement that minors be accompanied by adults while in the shopping center.  

At the mall in Carson, there were no reports of any injuries or thefts from any shops Saturday night.  

On Sunday, the mall was back open for business, though with a visible presence of security on hand.  

In a news release on Sunday, Carson Mayor Lula Davis-Holmes said: 

“Mayor Lula Davis-Holmes commented, “The safety and well-being of our residents and businesses are our top priority. We are taking immediate steps to ensure such incidents do not recur. Our community’s strength lies in our ability to come together and address challenges head-on. I commend the Sheriff’s Department for their quick action and the community for their cooperation.” 

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While it’s unclear what those steps might entail, there were other shoppers who said they were rattled by the incident.  

“I come to the mall often here,” San Pedro resident Michelle Brooks said. “I think it’s ridiculous. Parents need to get a hold of their children at all times.”  

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Watch: Group of masked suspects steal designer bags from Valentino at L.A. mall in 'flash mob' robbery

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Watch: Group of masked suspects steal designer bags from Valentino at L.A. mall in 'flash mob' robbery

A group of masked individuals ran off with several designer bags and clothes in a “flash mob” robbery at a mall in the Canoga Park neighborhood of Los Angeles on Friday night, and part of it was caught on camera.

The robbery, which was captured on video and obtained by Traffic News LA, was reported at around 6 p.m. at Westfield Topanga mall. The video showed what appeared to be masked young men grabbing the items and running off while leaving a messy path behind them.

The robbery took place at the mall’s Valentino store, which is a high-end Italian fashion brand.

Several masked robbers made off with designer bags and clothes at a Valentino store at the Topanga Mall on Friday, Oct. 4, 2024. (TNLA)

As of Saturday, it wasn’t clear how many items were stolen. There were about 10 suspects, according to TNLA.

The Valentino is next door to the Nordstrom store that was robbed in similar fashion just last week. According to TNLA, as much as $60,000 in merchandise was stolen in that flash mob robbery.

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No additional details were immediately made available.

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Many loathe public speakerphone calls, so why do people do it?

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Many loathe public speakerphone calls, so why do people do it?

(NEXSTAR) – Few things are as universally reviled as a loud phone conversation infringing on your personal space. (Mosquitoes and taxes aside.) Doing it on loudspeaker is even more incendiary.

To me, having a phone conversation on speakerphone in public is puzzling. Doesn’t it make it harder to hear for everyone involved? Yet in the past month I’ve seen this behavior play out in a crowded airport terminal, the lobby of a boutique fitness studio and the grocery store pasta aisle. (Nowhere is safe!)

Aside from being odd, it’s rude, say etiquette experts. “Taking a call on a loudspeaker around others can unintentionally send the message that you’re not considering their presence or personal space,” said Myka Meier, founder of Beaumont Etiquette. “It can come across as inconsiderate or even self-centered, as though you assume everyone else should be subjected to your conversation.”

The fact that it’s a phone conversation — not just in-person chit-chat — could be part of the reason people find loud speakerphone calls so grating, speculated Ozlem Ayduk, professor and chair of the UC Berkeley psychology department. Because people have another choice (using headphones, or waiting until they get off the hypothetical bus), it seems like an intentional affront to other people’s peace and quiet.

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“Talking to someone out loud in person on a bus where you’re dominating everybody else’s consciousness is just as rude as talking on the phone … in terms of real impact, it’s the same,” Ayduk said. “But there’s something about it being a phone, because I think we have conceptions that phone conversations are private, so it’s violating that expectation or assumption.”

People who use hearing aids (and might experience feedback when they hold a phone up to their ear) may get a free pass, but they’re not the only ones transgressing this unspoken rule.

The motivations for those without hearing impairment isn’t clearcut. It could be a number of things that lead to people speaking loudly — on the phone or otherwise — with abandon.

“I have no idea, but the person talking on the phone on a bus could be like, I don’t give a damn about all these people, you know, they’re just strangers to me. I’m never going to meet them again,” Ayduk said. “There may be some more nefarious reasons like somebody is narcissistic and they want to show the world how many friends they have. It could be totally benign to nefarious.”

They may also have trouble reading social cues and may not realize how their behavior impacts others, she explained.

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Plus, how we act in any social situation also depends on the context we grew up in, our individual values and our goals. What’s rude to one person could be completely fine to another.

“We tend to temper our behavior depending on how we think it’s perceived, how socially acceptable those behaviors are,” Ayduk said.

The more you see the behavior happening around you, the more normalized it becomes. So if you see people speaking loudly on the phone all the time, you may not shy away from doing it yourself.

“Humans learn from observing other people’s behaviors. And especially in situations where there may not be very strong established norms, they look to others to gauge their own behavior,” she said.

Meier, for her part, hopes the norms around loud phone conversations won’t change too much. She suggests using speakerphone in private settings only, and generally being mindful of the people around you when taking a call.

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“Whether you’re on the street, in a coffee shop, or even on public transport, the goal is to minimize the impact your conversation has on everyone around you. Being discreet and respectful makes all the difference,” she said.

Despite my fascination with this slice of human behavior, there hasn’t been much academic interest. Ayduk said she wasn’t aware of any scientific studies or journals published on the matter. (Free research paper idea for anyone who wants it!)

In the meantime, the conduct will remain a mystery to me. But people are complicated, after all. That’s what makes them so interesting to study.

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Serial arson suspect arrested for string of destructive fires in downtown L.A.

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Serial arson suspect arrested for string of destructive fires in downtown L.A.

An arson suspect accused of setting destructive fires around downtown Los Angeles was arrested.

The suspect, Victor Marias, 31, was taken into custody Thursday after police reportedly spotted him igniting a pile of trash on fire.

Marias is believed to be responsible for at least four blazes in the downtown L.A. area dating back to 2023, according to the Los Angeles Fire Department.

On July 19, crews responded to a large fire on Kohler Street between 7th and 8th Streets. The flames had spread to several commercial buildings and took over five hours to extinguish. An estimated $7 million in damages were left behind.

“Arson investigators quickly made entry into the structure while it was still burning to find and extract a hard drive that held the surveillance footage of the fire actually being set,” said LAFD Captain Erik Scott.

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Investigators have linked Marias to at least three other fires, including two that occurred in the same location on Willow Street on Sept. 22 and Oct. 3.

  • Over $7 million worth of damages were left after several commerical buildings were set on fire in downtown Los Angeles on July 19, 2024. (OnScene.TV)
  • Over $7 million worth of damages were left after several commerical buildings were set on fire in downtown Los Angeles on July 19, 2024. (OnScene.TV)
  • Victor Marias, 31, was seen approaching a building on Kohler Street before he allegedly torched paper and cardboard behind a fence and started a massive fire on July 19, 2024. (Los Angeles Fire Department)
  • The suspect pours an accelerant inside a downtown L.A. building before lighting it on fire. (KTLA)
  • The suspect pours an accelerant inside a downtown L.A. building before lighting it on fire. (KTLA)
  • The suspect pours an accelerant inside a downtown L.A. building before lighting it on fire. (KTLA)
  • The suspect gathered wood, trash, and combustible debris before placing it near a power pole and setting it on fire. (KTLA)
  • Victor Marias, 31, was seen walking away from a pile of trash he is accused of setting on fire. (Los Angeles Fire Department)
  • Victor Marias, 31, was arrested on Oct. 3, 2024, in connection with a string of fires set across downtown Los Angeles since August 2023. (Los Angeles Fire Department)
  • Over $7 million worth of damages were left after several commerical buildings were set on fire in downtown Los Angeles on July 19, 2024. (OnScene.TV)

“Residents provided investigators with video footage that showed the suspect gathering garbage throughout the day, placing it at the front door of the business and then later that evening, he returned and lit the trash on fire,” Scott said.

In both cases, nearby residents provided surveillance footage reportedly showing the man collecting combustible items, setting them on fire and casually walking away.

At the time of his arrest, Marias was on probation for a blaze that damaged a building on Palmetto Street in August 2023. In that incident, he was seen pouring an accelerant inside the building before lighting it on fire.

On Friday, his case was presented to the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office as he faces multiple felony charges of arson of a structure and arson of property, along with a probation violation.

“The crime of arson is egregious because it not only threatens widespread damage to property, but threatens the lives of first responders and the public,” LAFD said.

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He is currently being held without bail. He is expected to appear in court on Monday, Oct. 6.

Authorities are asking anyone with evidence that could link additional fires to the suspect to email LAFDArson@lacity.org.

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