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An AI Salvador Dalí will answer any question when called on his famous 'lobster phone'
Ask Dalí at the Dalí Museum in St. Petersburg, Fla., allows visitors talk to the famous surrealist artist via an AI-generated version of his voice.
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Ask Dalí at the Dalí Museum in St. Petersburg, Fla., allows visitors talk to the famous surrealist artist via an AI-generated version of his voice.
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Salvador Dalí was known for his surreal artworks featuring melting clocks and craggy desert backgrounds, his eccentric behaviors like driving a car packed to the roof with cauliflower, and his gravity-defying mustache.
He was also known for answering questions in cryptic ways. In 1966, when an interviewer with the CBC asked the artist if he thought he was crazy, Dalí’s response was: “Dalí is almost crazy. But the only difference between crazy people and Dalí is Dalí is not crazy.”
Now, visitors to the Dalí Museum in St. Petersburg, Fla., have the opportunity to ask any question they like of the famed surrealist artist who died in 1989.
Ask Dalí, a new installation based on a copy of Dalí’s iconic Lobster Telephone sculpture, allows visitors to pick up the crustacean-shaped receiver, ask a question, and hear Dalí’s response. The artist’s voice, speaking in heavily-accented English, is made possible through generative artificial intelligence.
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“Why are the clocks melting?” is an example of one question someone asks in a promotional reel for the installation, which opened on April 11. “My dear questioner! Think not of the clocks as merely melting. Picture them as a vast dream.”
Bringing Dalí’s voice to life through AI
According to Goodby Silverstein & Partners, the San Francisco-based ad agency that collaborated on the installation with the Dalí Museum, the artist’s AI voice was trained on voice samples taken from archival interviews Dalí did in English over his career. (He spoke four languages — Catalan, Spanish, French and English — sometimes interchangeably.)
The underlying model is OpenAI’s GPT-4. Because GPT-4 is trained on almost all publicly available text, this model includes extensive information about Dalí — an artist with a vast presence on the internet. The Dalí Museum also selected English translations of Dalí’s writings in other languages, including his Mystical Manifesto, Diary of a Genius and The Secret Life of Salvador Dalí.
“These have formed the basis of Dalí’s words and tone of voice through careful prompt engineering, refining and testing,” said Martin Pagh Ludvigsen, Goodby Silverstein & Partners’ director of creative technology & AI, in an email to NPR.
Visitors speak with AI Salvador Dalí via the “lobster phone” at the Dalí Museum in St. Petersburg, Fla.
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Visitors speak with AI Salvador Dalí via the “lobster phone” at the Dalí Museum in St. Petersburg, Fla.
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Ludvigsen said the AI Dalí has answered more than 3,000 questions so far. “People ask big questions about life, love and death from Dalí,” Ludvigsen said, adding he is able to monitor the AI’s answers, but not the visitors’ specific questions. The AI “frequently speaks of [Dalí’s] wife Gala when discussing love — ‘My marriage to Gala was an exquisite tapestry of love, beyond the binaries of mortal understanding,’ just popped up in the tool.”
Ludvigsen said the AI has also responded to questions about why humans kill animals: “A question soaked in existential dread yet trivial in the grand canvas of the cosmos. We kill animals perhaps because we are imprisoned in a labyrinth of primal instincts and modern desires, a surreal dance of survival and supremacy.”
On why there is so much darkness in the world: “Challenge the universe with deeper queries, like why do shadows celebrate the sun? Shadows celebrate the sun because they are the silent music of light’s absence. Each shadow is a dark fingerprint of the universe, revealing the hidden contours of time and space.”
Another frequent topic, according to Ludvigsen, is the Lobster Telephone itself. Dalí fashioned at least 10 of the objects in the 1930s. The work is constructed out of an old-fashioned rotary telephone and a plaster lobster. Some versions are all in white — the Dalí Museum in St. Petersburg owns one of these — while others, like the one at The Tate in London, feature a black phone with a red lobster.
From Dalí to DALL-E
Spanish surrealist painter Salvador Dali (1904-1989) is pictured in December 1964.
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Spanish surrealist painter Salvador Dali (1904-1989) is pictured in December 1964.
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This is the latest in an string of tech-infused installations at the Dalí museum. Beginning in 2019, the AI installation Dalí Lives allowed visitors to interact with Dalí’s likeness on a series of screens throughout the museum. Since last year, the interactive installation Dream Tapestry has allowed visitors to create original digital paintings from a text description of a dream.
Dalí scholar Elliott King, an associate professor of art history at Washington and Lee University who was not involved with the museum’s exhibit, said he thought Dalí would have liked this AI-based interpretation of his voice and work, noting that the popular AI image generator DALL-E is in part inspired by the artist’s name. “He was so interested in scientific advancements,” King said. “I think that he would have been really tickled by people talking into this lobster phone.”
King said he thought the AI-generated voice worked well compared to the museum’s previous efforts. “It does sound much more like Dalí than anything that I’ve heard up until now,” King said. “His voice is so unusual. He had a very particular way of speaking where he would exaggerate certain words.”
But King said some of the AI answers did not sound authentic to Dalí’s creative language. King cited the “Why are the clocks melting?” question, and its response, “Picture them as a vast dream,” as an example. “That’s a little bit vague,” King said. “He’s never just going to say something nearly so mundane. It’s always going to be much more action-packed, much more exciting than just the regular thing that somebody might say.”
King said that in Dalí’s 1934 book The Conquest of the Irrational, Dalí describes the melting timepieces as “the soft, extravagant, solitary paranoiac-critical Camembert of time and space.” “To be fair, Dalí altered his interpretations of the soft clocks many times throughout his life,” King said. “In the 1950s, they were atomic; in the 1960s, they were prognosticators of DNA. But saying they are part of a ‘vast dream’ almost sounds too clear.”
King also said Dalí would never use the word “hi” when introducing himself, which is what the AI model does when the museum-goer picks up the lobster phone to speak to the AI surrealist. “That word sounds so odd coming out of his voice,” King said. “He always said, “Bonjour!” — always the French — even to say goodbye.”
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They were world-class tennis rivals. Now friends, they’ve teamed up against cancer
Once rivals on the tennis court, Martina Navratilova, left, and Chris Evert have become close friends in retirement. They are pictured above at the French Open in 1986.
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Chris Evert and Martina Navratilova were the most successful women’s tennis champions of their generation. Both were 18-time Grand Slam tournament winners — and each other’s greatest rivals.
Evert, a Florida native, became a tennis star in her teens. Navratilova was born in communist Czechoslovakia, and emerged as a player after Evert was established. They first faced off during a match in Akron, Ohio, in 1973, when Evert was 18, and Navratilova was 16. Evert won, but Navratilova left an impression.
“I remember thinking to myself, holy cow, when this young girl gets into better shape, she is going to be a force to be reckoned with,” Evert says. “She had so much talent. Her hands were quick, she had a big first serve, she had a big forehand, and she just was so powerful.”

Two years later, on the day she lost a semifinals match to Evert at the U.S. Open, Navratilova defected to the U.S. In the years that followed, her tennis game improved. Though she and Evert had initially been friendly, the friendship cooled as their rivalry heated up.
“Playing Chris was difficult because how can you not like Chris? What’s not to admire?” Navratilova says. “She was like the epitome of cool.”
The new Netflix documentary Chris & Martina: The Final Set tells the story of how Evert and Navratilova re-established their friendship and how they both faced cancer in retirement. Evert was diagnosed with ovarian cancer in 2021; Navratilova was diagnosed with throat and breast cancer in 2022.
“I can’t get away from her,” Evert jokes. “We had a 15-year career, and then we got cancer at the same time. It really is freaky, but I always say: If I want someone to be in the trenches with me, it’s Martina because she has been so supportive and so understanding.”

Navratilova agrees: “We have such a level of trust that we know whatever we say to each other, it stays there. We give each other the best advice we know how to. And there is no ulterior motive, no playing games.”
At the time that this interview was taped, Evert and Navratilova were both in remission from cancer. But late last week, Evert disclosed she’d recently been diagnosed with a recurrence of ovarian cancer.
“We know whatever we say to each other, it stays there,” Martina Navratilova says of her friendship with Chris Evert.
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Interview highlights
On supporting each other through cancer
Evert: There are a lot of phone calls between us. … I don’t cook, but Martina would bake bread for me, and her wife Julia would cook, make some chicken soup. … I got a lot of food from Martina. She got a necklace from me.
Navratilova: I get jewelry from Chris, she gets food from me.
Evert: Martina’s and my relationship — because we’ve had one for 50 years — is not the type where we have to talk to each other every day to maintain the closeness. I always knew she was there. She always knew I was there if we needed to talk, and that was that.
On the weakness they experienced with cancer
Navratilova: Chris’ diagnosis and treatment was much more life-threatening than mine, percentage wise, but my treatment was more difficult physically. … I was in New York for seven weeks and I literally sat on a yoga mat, maybe half an hour of the seven weeks, and did some stretching. I couldn’t even do the down dog pose because I would have fallen down. I had absolutely zero strength left.
Evert: The chemo kicked my butt, let’s put it that way. … It left me very weak, very, very weak. After chemo I would have three or four days of intense nausea and I just would feel tingling in my body and it just wasn’t nice. I didn’t have the energy. To walk six blocks was a big deal for me. And it was foreign. You know, it felt like it wasn’t my body, for sure.
On watching the old footage of their matches together for the documentary
Navratilova: For me, it was fun watching with Chris, because we had different reactions to what happened on the court. But what impressed me is how well we played with those wooden rackets. Because you know what? Those rackets are not easy to play with. But you try to put yourself in there physically, what it was like, mentally, what it is like. And it’s like, “Oh, I should have gone down the line,” or, “I can’t believe I missed that shot.” Or “Chris, you had such a great pass.” It was amazing. So it was impressive. … I wish I could still have that six-pack, but anyhow.

Evert: I remember feeling genuinely happy for her. I remember it was her first Wimbledon. That’s always been her dream since she defected. Her family couldn’t be there to watch her. She was all alone. And I just was happy for it. And I knew that this was gonna be one of many for her to win.
On defecting to the U.S. in 1975 when she was 18 years old
Navratilova: I was thrilled to be in the States. I always loved American cars. And when you ordered a ham sandwich, you got, like, two inches of ham and two slices of bread. Whereas growing up, you had thick bread and one slice of ham. So I thought I was in heaven. And it was $2.30 for that sandwich. I still remember it. I couldn’t believe how much ham I was getting.
Lauren Krenzel and Nico Gonzalez Wisler produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Beth Novey adapted it for the web.

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