Sean Hannity demands to know why Sean Penn doesn’t trust him ‘for a lot of reasons’

Actor and producer Sean Penn opened up Tuesday about his expertise documenting the struggle in Ukraine in a sprawling interview with Fox Information host Sean Hannity.

Throughout the newest episode of the conservative pundit’s eponymous speak program, Hannity and Penn repeatedly acknowledged their diametrically opposing political views whereas agreeing that Russian President Vladimir Putin was flawed to invade Ukraine.

In latest months, Penn has been on the bottom in Ukraine whereas filming a documentary in regards to the besieged nation and its chief, President Volodymyr Zelensky.

“I made a telephone name to you. I learn that you simply had been there, and the story me,” Hannity mentioned after welcoming the Oscar winner to his present. “For those who had been on this set 99 out of 100 occasions, we most likely can be in full disagreement, proper?”

“No query about that,” Penn mentioned.

At first, the veteran performer was skeptical of the invitation from Hannity, whom he doesn’t belief for “a whole lot of causes.” However after what he “skilled emotionally in Ukraine,” Penn determined to place their variations apart.

“There are such a lot of folks that don’t belief their partner, and but we’ve got received to get on with life,” Penn mentioned.

“All of us discuss how … divided issues are right here. However if you step into a rustic of such unimaginable unity, you notice what we’ve got all been lacking. … It turns into a petty factor, as individuals and infants are being vaporized, and that these persons are combating for the very goals which are the aspiration of all of us People.”

Hannity, nonetheless, was fixated on Penn’s belief points. Although a lot of the interview was critical in tone because of the grim material, the 2 shared a number of smiles and laughs whereas joking about their unlikely pairing.

When the film star introduced up his first dialog with Zelensky, for instance, the Fox Information commentator interrupted to ask, “Did you belief him? Greater than me.”

“I didn’t have the luggage with him I’ve with you,” Penn quipped with a chuckle — to which Hannity defensively replied, “What’s the baggage? We by no means have met earlier than.”

“As a badge of honor in my home, I’ve received the full-screen that I dominate as an enemy of the state with you in foreground,” Penn joked.

Towards the tip of the interview, Hannity appeared intent on lastly successful Penn’s approval, asking him, “Do you belief me now greater than you probably did?” After which once more: “Do you belief me? Did I preserve my phrase?”

Finally, Penn conceded that Hannity did, certainly, preserve his phrase. However that wasn’t sufficient for the TV host.

“So, why don’t you belief me?” he pressed, laughing.

“You recognize what occurs,” Penn mentioned. “There’s a whole lot of bodily remedy essential after a giant automobile accident.”

When Russia started its invasion of Ukraine in February, Penn’s presence within the nation made headlines. However the“Licorice Pizza” actor had already been there since November, engaged on a venture about Ukrainian tradition and Zelensky.

Although Penn had consulted consultants on Putin who predicted the Russian invasion, “part of” him was in denial that the state of affairs would escalate to struggle.

“I believed, ‘Actually? Is there an upside to this for [Putin]?’ ” he recalled.

“However … he was so deep in that the humiliation wasn’t going to let it cease, and that you simply weren’t going to have the simplicity of negotiations for areas of the east of Mariupol to have the ability to make the bridge from Crimea. And now it was going to be this full-on assault. And right here we’re.”

The actor additionally mirrored on assembly Zelensky “nose to nose for the primary time” the day earlier than the invasion, which is included in his forthcoming documentary. On the time, there was a blackout within the metropolis as a consequence of missile threats, and Penn’s workforce was suggested to not depart in a automobile lest the lights entice a strike.

“I don’t know that there’s an individual on Earth who might know that they had been born for such a day, that they may rise to it,” Penn mentioned.

“He’s the face of one thing that you simply see in all of the Ukrainians we noticed and talked to — whether or not they had been in uniform, out of uniform, schoolteachers, even youngsters — this extraordinary braveness that’s come up. … It was in his eyes.”

Temporary facet quibbles about Presidents Reagan, Trump and Biden apart, Hannity and Penn agreed that Ukraine has an honest shot at surviving Russia’s assault — if supplied with the army support essential to take action.

“It’s clear to me that the Ukrainians will win this,” Penn mentioned. “The query is, at what value?”