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So how do you 'accurately' speak English in ancient Rome?
There’s been a lot of online chatter about Denzel Washington and his accent in the upcoming movie Gladiator II. There are longstanding conventions around using a posh-sounding British accent for ancient characters … but why? Nobody spoke English in Rome.
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Gladiator II doesn’t come out until November. But the recent release of the trailer has prompted a lot of online chatter about the actors’ accents — especially Denzel Washington’s. The actor plays a powerful mercenary who keeps a stable of gladiators. His character, Macrinus, is based on a real historical figure.
“I love me some Denzel,” wrote Sophia Johnson on X.com. “But his masterful acting skills cannot erase his vernacular and no amount of adoration can make it fit for a film depicting ancient Rome.”
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I love me some Denzel…
But his masterful acting skills, CANNOT erase his vernacular and NO AMOUNT of adoration can make it fit for a film depicting ancient Rome.
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“What accent is he supposed to have?” countered treythekage in a TikTok video. “Are you going to make Denzel Washington do a goofy-ass British accent to seem noble? Or are you going to let him be his noble-ass self?”
This debate about whether it’s OK to play ancient historical figures with an American accent instead of a posh English one highlights how longstanding conventions around accents persist in movies — even when they defy logic.
Ancient Rome: A linguistic melting pot
Gladiator II is set in ancient Rome. Far from being a single-accented monoculture, it was a linguistic melting pot.
“The Roman citizen body had people who came from an enormous number of different places — tons of Africans, tons of Greeks and tons of Gauls,” said Eleanor Dickey, a classics professor at the University of Reading in the United Kingdom.
Dickey said we know about speech variances in ancient Rome because of writings by grammarians like Pompeius.
“There were a lot of Greek speakers, not everybody spoke Latin” said Dickey. “And of the ones who spoke Latin, many of them were not native speakers of it. And the ones who were native speakers of it, didn’t all necessarily speak the same kind of Latin.”
There were some people in Rome from the country that centuries later would become known as England. Dickey said most of us wouldn’t recognize the language those people spoke.
“There was no such thing as English in the third century,” she said. “What you would have had is Celtic speakers.”
Where history and Hollywood part ways
But Hollywood has never concerned itself too much with the facts.
“We simply expect to hear characters in a film set in ancient Rome speaking in RP — Received Pronunciation — that sort of Queen’s or King’s English accent,” said dialect coach Erik Singer. “It’s just a convention, though.”
Singer, whose resume includes helping California native Austin Butler perfect his Mississippi accent in the 2022 Elvis biopic, said RP English is a prestige accent. So it’s obvious for filmmakers to associate it with colonial power.
“Roman Empire, British Empire — there’s something there that sort of makes sense,” he said.
As a result, RP has been standard issue for movies set in the ancient world, from 1963’s Cleopatra to 2009’s Agora. (The original Gladiator movie from 2000 also made much use of this accent.)
But Singer said some filmmakers are becoming more thoughtful about what accents to use for movies set in faraway places and times.
“There’s no one way to handle a situation where you have a story set in ancient Rome, or another country with characters speaking a language other than English, and we’re just hearing it in English because it’s an English language film for an English language audience,” Singer said. “You can have everybody speak RP. You can have everybody speak a variety of accents and kind of try to match them to the class. And then there’s sort of no plan at all.”
The danger of judging a film’s accents by its trailer
It’s hard to know how much thought went into the accent choices for Gladiator II. Neither the production company nor the dialect coach responded to NPR’s requests for comment.
Judging by the trailer — and that’s not ideal, since it’s noisy, action-packed and only features a few lines of dialogue — the accents do seem to be all over the map.
Irish actor Paul Mescal is speaking a version of RP English — though some viewers of the trailer have said the actor lapses into his Irish accent at points. Lior Raz appears to be using his native Israeli-inflected speech. Singer said when he listened to Chilean American Pedro Pascale’s most discernible line in the trailer — “Rome has so many subjects; she must feed them” — he didn’t hear enough to make a judgement about what accent he was using.
“What are we to make of this?” the dialect coach wrote in an email. “Without consulting any of the artists involved, and without more to go on, it isn’t responsible to even speculate here.”
As for Denzel Washington, Singer said the actor’s voice and delivery are so familiar, people tend to tune-out subtle changes.
“His voice is likely to be perceived as being ‘Denzel’s normal accent’ even when it’s not,” said Singer. “This is the sort of perception trap that leads a lot of movie stars, past and present, to avoid big accent risks, as they feel they can’t win — they’ll be mercilessly criticized either way.”
This story was edited by Jennifer Vanasco for air and digital. The audio version was produced by Isabella Sarmiento-Gomez.
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‘Wait Wait’ for June 27, 2026: With Not My Job guest Stephen Malkmus
Stephen Malkmus & the Jicks perform onstage during day two of the Boston Calling Music Festival at Boston City Hall Plaza on September 26, 2015 in Boston, Massachusetts. (Photo by Mike Lawrie/Getty Images)
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He turned his one-bedroom West Hollywood apartment into an entertainer’s paradise
When Julio Miranda-Martin began his apartment search, he had one nonnegotiable: He wanted a dedicated dining room to entertain his friends. He was scouring Zillow in 2025 when a listing for a railroad-style, one-bedroom on the edge of West Hollywood came up that included the requisite dining room. It was also walking distance to his part-time job as a marketing coordinator at furniture store Lawson-Fenning. More importantly, at $2,500 a month it was within his budget.
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Miranda-Martin met with his landlord the same day he found the listing, who told him he looks like his son. Feeling like finding this 950-square-foot apartment was kismet, Miranda-Martin signed the lease and set about creating a sophisticated and color-saturated sanctuary. Miranda-Martin decided he needed to make two major investments before moving in: painting the walls and changing the lighting. “I was finally able to move into a place that I actually like, not just out of necessity. I was like, let’s make it feel like my own,” says Miranda-Martin, who refers to the space as his “living canvas.”
In this series, we spotlight L.A. rentals with style. From perfect gallery walls to temporary decor hacks, these renters get creative, even in small spaces. And Angelenos need the inspiration: Most are renters.
The apartment is on the second floor of a fourplex, up a windowless staircase. Miranda-Martin embraced the lack of light and painted it a high-gloss crimson. Without natural light, he hard-wired sconces found on Facebook Marketplace that recall ornamental 18th century candlesticks. They cast a dim but moody light throughout the staircase, ending with an ornate mirror at the top. The mirror shows a glimpse of the apartment’s interior in its reflection when Miranda-Martin opens the door. “Every time people walk in, especially at night, it’s such a dramatic entry,” he explains. “It’s very cinematic,” agrees friend and co-worker Kristin Reeder, who is often a guest at his soirees, “like something from ‘Eyes Wide Shut.’ ”
1. Julio Miranda-Martin’s apartment decor starts in the bold staircase that leads to his door. 2. A mirror at the top of the staircase offers extra depth. 3. Julio Miranda-Martin fills the bookshelf in his dining room with books and treasures.
In contrast, the living room offers a calmer palette of sky blues and earthy browns. Miranda-Martin tends to choose paint colors based on the light. The living room, with abundant west-facing windows brings in soft, bright light. Miranda-Martin painted it with Benjamin Moore’s Navajo, a flat white, as a backdrop to the softer hues of the furniture he designed at his furniture and lighting company, Studio MM. “It adds a stillness,” he says.
The room is anchored by a large velvet couch in a rich brown. The modular couch is anchored on each side with Art-Deco influenced side tables, lamps and light blue slipper chairs he designed, setting up a cozy tableau for hosting his friends. Pale pink cushioned ottomans provide additional seating that can easily be moved around the room to accommodate additional guests.
A velvet couch acts as a statement piece in the apartment living room.
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French doors separate the living room from the dining room. The chartreuse-infused dining room returns to a more dramatic colorway. With less natural light, Miranda-Martin wanted to play up the idea of dining-room-as-treehouse, reflecting the second-floor foliage visible from the small windows. Rather than trying to brighten the room, he leaned into the moodiness by buying inexpensive, USB battery-powered spotlights that are mounted on the ceiling with magnets. Taking an alcohol marker, he tinted the lights a soft amber, allowing him to highlight the art in the room without adding harsh overhead lighting.
The dining room is meant to reflect the foliage just outside the window.
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A shell-adorned mirror anchors the wall facing the windows and built-in shelving, making the room feel larger. Miranda-Martin sourced two shell-shaped sconces that flank the mirror at an estate sale in San Francisco. Most of the art and home decor comes from Facebook Marketplace and Craigslist, or is thrifted from local stores. Estate sales are also a source, though Miranda-Martin feels the rising popularity of these sales in Los Angeles has led to an increase in pricing. “They’ve gotten so over the top now in L.A. [They’re] super expensive. You’re not really gonna find a deal,” he laments, citing the armed security checking bags recently at some of the hottest estate sales.
In addition to changing the lighting and painting the walls, Miranda-Martin prioritized the window treatments, with pinch pleat curtains from Ikea. “Drapery can just make a space feel super elevated,” he advises. He prefers a mix of new and vintage decor, balancing both for an eclectic but deeply personal look to his home. He tries not to overthink his aesthetic choices. “I think it’s very instinctual. I’m not really thinking, ‘Is this in good taste or is this going to be weird?,’ ” he says.
Down the hall, the bedroom’s mostly white design theme returns to a more serene composition, providing a quiet sanctuary. Miranda-Martin removed the headboard from his bed, making it seem like it’s floating between the night tables he designed. “Everything feels sort of streamlined and smooth,” says Miranda-Martin. Like the living room, the bedroom is painted the same flat white but the quality of the eastern light filtering into the bedroom casts a buttery glow.
1. Ceramics fill inset shelves in the kitchen. 2. A glass case in the apartment corridor between the dining room and the bedroom. 3. With its lighter decor, the bedroom was meant to be a sanctuary.
The small kitchen retains its midcentury charm, but open shelving above the counter provides an airier, more contemporary cupboard to show off Miranda-Martin’s dish and glassware collection. The easier access comes in handy when he’s entertaining. His apartment is the perfect pre-game space for him and his friends before a night on the town. He tries to make sure he pre-batches cocktails before his guests arrive.
He also likes to host more elaborate dinner parties and game nights. He attributes his love of entertaining to his upbringing as an only child in Downey. “I like hosting because I enjoy being around more people than when I was growing up,” explains Miranda-Martin. His goal, ultimately, is to bring together disparate groups of people from different spheres in a space everyone will feel comfortable in. Dinner parties at Miranda-Martin’s “feel like an event,” says Reeder. “It’s something you’re excited for and you want to get dressed up for.”
“I’m kind of going through a phase right now where I need to be around people,” admits Miranda-Martin. “I think I just hate being alone.”
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Amateurs now conduct most weddings. Here is some basic advice
Ryan Benk and Ryan Ricciardi are married by their friend Cesar Garcia this year.
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Gone is the traditional wedding officiated only by a rabbi, a priest, an imam, a pastor or an archbishop.
In a recent survey by the wedding website The Knot, 67% of couples are getting married by a friend. The share has skyrocketed since 2009, when The Knot started tracking who officiates weddings. That year, 27% of couples used a friend for their ceremony.
“Gen Z culture is really infiltrating the wedding industry, and they just do not do things in a standard, traditional way,” said Esther Lee, The Knot’s editorial director.
“They are scrutinizing every aspect of the wedding day in a sense of ‘How do I make this speak to my story?’” she said.
As people swap traditional vows for more personalized weddings, friends and family are filling many more roles beyond just bridesmaids and groomsmen. The wedding officiant is a really big one.
If you’re asked to perform a wedding for a couple, “take the role seriously,” Lee suggested. “Put a lot of hours and thought into how the ceremony will go.”
An officiant with a close tie to a marrying couple can bring a beautiful intimacy to the ceremony. But Lee warned, “Don’t wing it. You can’t wing it.”
First of all, weddings have a lot of stage directions. And the officiant is in charge of telling everyone in the congregation what to do.
“Part of the proceedings is having everyone be seated at a certain time,” said Shelby Wax, a contributing weddings editor at Vogue. She would know. “I’ve been at a wedding where we have stood up too long because an officiant forgot to say that.”
Wax suggested that officiants keep the proceedings moving without making too many jokes or doing anything to draw attention to themselves and away from the couple.
Ask the couple ahead of time for their vision of the ceremony, and find out some of the special things that draw them together and make them want to commit to marriage. And be sure to find out how long they want the ceremony to last.
You’ll also need to get any necessary credentials for legally officiating a wedding. Some jurisdictions require that wedding officiants be ordained ministers. That can be just a few clicks and is often free. The Universal Life Church ordains ministers online and boasts that it has ordained 20 million people.
“Sometimes you have to register with the state and the county and have all the forms ready to go for them to sign afterwards and mail them afterwards,” Wax said.
If the hassles and the responsibility of planning a ceremony and conducting a wedding are too much, bow out right now. The sooner the better.
But Wax suggested that you consider the invitation carefully. It’s an honor that your loved ones want you to marry them. “You know, if I was asked, I would absolutely make the time to do it,” she said.
Even if weddings have become less traditional, the event is still a joyous milestone and evokes a certain dreaminess in the people who get to witness it.
“I do feel that magic and that hope, similar to a child being born,” said Alisa Allred Mercer, a school board member in Davis County, Utah. She has officiated the weddings of a brother, two nieces, a nephew and many, many others.
If people are willing to give love a try, she said, she is happy to help.
“Each time that I am able to perform a wedding, I think the greatest thing that I’m able to give is to pour out my hope and my faith in their relationship to them,” she said.
Mercer had one final piece of advice: After you pronounce the couple married and tell them to kiss, get out of the picture.
“They do not want you in that photo — they want a photo of the two of them,” she said. “So step out of the way.”
The Knot estimates that more than 2 million couples will get married this year, and we’re not even halfway through wedding season. So if you find yourself sitting at a wedding this summer, maybe offer your silent wishes and prayers not just for the couple, but for the officiant too.
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